Would you really like to live forever?

sukikettle

Dades the topic is would you really like to live forever...I wasn't aware I was in the wrong chatroom and you don't have to be disrespectful with such a chauvinistic statement.

The Mad Hatter

deadhead13 wrote: »

Its surely preferable than being dead forever

I completely disagree. To paraphrase Mark Twain (because I can't be bothered looking for the quote), I was dead for thousands of years before I was born, and it never bothered me one bit.

beertons

Get the tissues!

I'd like to die in my sleep with my OH, that way I don't have to live without her.

sukikettle

Hatter I don't care if you convert but I did tell you and that is something you can never accuse me or anyone at the Judgement seat

sukikettle

you won't know you're dead either...the bible says we sleep and awake at the judgement. There is no concept or existence of time before or after death...you know God requires a major shift in thinking outside the box and that's why He is so difficult to grasp and accept. I challenge you to flip through the pages of a pocket-sized bible no one will discern you are reading and watch what happens in your heart and head

sHnaCk

uhh ....what I miss?

sHnaCk

well... one day i ended up at a meeting with christians and one of the lads mentioned a verse which ...funny enough... i didnt undertand all that much. it was gibberish to me. it was 1 corinthians 1:18 and i just had to figure it out!! it just stuck with me until i undertood it completely. now i do. another one that really freaked me out was what Jesus said in luke 9:60. gives you the heeby jeebies til you get it right in your head. i suppose 20:20 hindsite allows you to realise that the gospel can only be understood in relationship... hence 1 corinthians 1:18... what you guys thinkeh?

Splendour

'Can I get out after I've finished Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake please?'

Not fair, the above quote and forever are one and the same...:D

Thing is, we're ALL gonna live forever whether we like it or not.
The more important question in my mind is WHERE would you like to live forever?

sHnaCk

sheesh splendour... struth. ill tell ye something else, we have many verses that we can pray into peoples lives and they miraculously come to Christ. We dont even have to speak to them!! these verses have NEVER failed. it is Gods will that all are saved its just that many of them have to be enabled and these verses do the what they say on the tin!!

Fanny Cradock

sukikettle wrote: »

Rockbeer I bet you're a pain in the proverbials in real life. What horse dung are you spouting on about. Do you talk like that in real life

Sukikettle, no more of this. OK?

sukikettle

Dear Fanny you are many posts a bit late...I was slapped on my wrist by another mod and you make it a ganging up club at this stage and perhaps you'll take note there are fouler things a foot here and much more dire language than mine in here. I used correct english after all and for that a girl is to be held up as a model of decorum and poise in a world gone mad.

CerebralCortex

Splendour wrote: »

Thing is, we're ALL gonna live forever whether we like it or not...

Evidence please?

Fanny Cradock

sukikettle wrote: »

Dear Fanny you are many posts a bit late...I was slapped on my wrist by another mod and you make it a ganging up club at this stage and perhaps you'll take note there are fouler things a foot here and much more dire language than mine in here. I used correct english after all and for that a girl is to be held up as a model of decorum and poise in a world gone mad.

It's not a case of of mods ganging up on you, I simply wasn't aware that you had been warned already. This said, warnings are issued on the basis of the offending post, not in relation to the posts of others.

BrianCalgary

MrPudding wrote: »

But why did god create evil in the first place?

MrP

God did not create evil. :eek:

(I think I get as annoyed by this statemnt as robin does about 'survival of the fittest")

BrianCalgary

Helix wrote: »

you dont need to follow christ for the latter part of that sentence tho?

I think that you do, from the view that without Christ you can't truly recognize sin for what it is.

Helix wrote: »

then why does the vatican issue pardons occasionally?

THEY think they can pardon, but in fact they can not. We onl;y have teh ability to pardon someone who sins against us. So if someone does me wrong I can forgive them, PDN can't nor can the Vatican.

Since we sin against God, only God can pardon that sin. Not the Vatican, not the Christian and Missionary Alliance, not PDN; only God.

sexmag

ElCrapula wrote: »

Id certainly like to be around for a while longer than is granted now,but Id never take the eternal option.
As for heaven and hell,gimme hell.All the mad bastards would be there,much better craic.
God doesnt seem like the nicest fella around,bit of a dictator.Id reckon the Devil would let you do what you wanted,not as many rules.

ye and slipknot and cky will be playing every day,thats defonatly worth a bit of torture and besides all the coolest people will be der,like curt cobain and ghandi

PDN

sexmag wrote: »

ye and slipknot and cky will be playing every day,thats defonatly worth a bit of torture and besides all the coolest people will be der,like curt cobain and ghandi

Yes, I'm sure Gandhi will be delighted to listen to Slipknot every day.

BrianCalgary

Originally Posted by ElCrapula
Id certainly like to be around for a while longer than is granted now,but Id never take the eternal option.
As for heaven and hell,gimme hell.All the mad bastards would be there,much better craic.
God doesnt seem like the nicest fella around,bit of a dictator.Id reckon the Devil would let you do what you wanted,not as many rules.

sexmag wrote: »

ye and slipknot and cky will be playing every day,thats defonatly worth a bit of torture and besides all the coolest people will be der,like curt cobain and ghandi

Satan allowing everyone to do what they wanted, lets think about that: the thug from the USA deciding that it would be a good idea to go and just shoot everyone they see that day. And he sees you.

The torturer who decides that they want to hang draw and quarter someone that day and they pick you.

The bully who is happy just pounding the daylights out of someone and you are the one they target. You will be spending eternity getting beaten and tortured. Sounds like good craic.

mewso

BrianCalgary wrote: »

THEY think they can pardon, but in fact they can not. We onl;y have teh ability to pardon someone who sins against us. So if someone does me wrong I can forgive them, PDN can't nor can the Vatican.

Since we sin against God, only God can pardon that sin. Not the Vatican, not the Christian and Missionary Alliance, not PDN; only God.

So the Pope isn't actually God's spokesperson on earth. Learn something new every day.

Helix

BrianCalgary wrote: »

I think that you do, from the view that without Christ you can't truly recognize sin for what it is.

not sin with religious connotations no, but you can know whats right and wrong. and once you do whats right sure thats the main thing

i keep saying it, but sure isnt it a sin to work on sunday?

PDN

musician wrote: »

So the Pope isn't actually God's spokesperson on earth. Learn something new every day.

We aim to please.

Helix

BrianCalgary wrote: »

Originally Posted by ElCrapula
Id certainly like to be around for a while longer than is granted now,but Id never take the eternal option.
As for heaven and hell,gimme hell.All the mad bastards would be there,much better craic.
God doesnt seem like the nicest fella around,bit of a dictator.Id reckon the Devil would let you do what you wanted,not as many rules.



Satan allowing everyone to do what they wanted, lets think about that: the thug from the USA deciding that it would be a good idea to go and just shoot everyone they see that day. And he sees you.

The torturer who decides that they want to hang draw and quarter someone that day and they pick you.

The bully who is happy just pounding the daylights out of someone and you are the one they target. You will be spending eternity getting beaten and tortured. Sounds like good craic.

so the bad guys get to enjoy themselves in hell... kinda like heaven for them then?

Helix

*edit*

not sure what happened there

PDN

Helix wrote: »

i keep saying it, but sure isnt it a sin to work on sunday?

Not according to the Bible. It never mentions working on a Sunday. Just as well because it's my busiest workday of the week!

The Mad Hatter

musician wrote: »

So the Pope isn't actually God's spokesperson on earth. Learn something new every day.

It depends what category of Christian you are.

Helix

BrianCalgary wrote: »

God did not create evil. :eek:

if he created the universe and everything in it, then he defined the rules that allowed for evil. if he was the ultimate creator, he had the choice whether to allow the possibility of it being part of the everything which he created

Helix

sorry, saturday, jewish sabbath

the ot says its a sin punishable by death, does it not?

Numbers 15:32-36

32While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.

mewso

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

It depends what category of Christian you are.

Perhaps more like God's representative but if he pardons people surely hes gone beyond the job description. I was sure we were taught in school by those lovely Christian Brothers that god spoke through the Pope. Anything to confuse us for the daily beatings I suppose :pac:

PDN

Helix wrote: »

sorry, saturday, jewish sabbath

the ot says its a sin punishable by death, does it not?

Numbers 15:32-36

32While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.

If you're a Jew and you have a time machine and you're planning to take a trip back to the Middle East to a few thousand years ago then, yes, I would think you have every reason to be concerned about the whole Sabbath deal and getting put to death.

Helix

old testament doesnt counth then?

i mean, god ordered this bloke put to death for working on the sabbath, did he change his mind about that one? wouldnt that mean he makes mistakes then, and isnt perfect?