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Would you really like to live forever?

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  • #92
    rockbeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭rockbeer


    sukikettle wrote: »
    Rockbeer I bet you're a pain in the proverbials in real life. What horse dung are you spouting on about. Do you talk like that in real life

    Reported and you go on ignore.

    Ah, peace and quiet returns.


  • #93
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    What a waste of 87 posts


  • #94
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Hey PDN that was a very friendly warning...even a ticking off in here is pleasant. Sukikettle gets herself a soda pop and a sofa and basks in the glow of love


  • #95
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Suki puts Rock on ignore...and goes to another corner in the playground where the other kids will talk to her


  • #96
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Please stop adding so many incidental posts- it's getting kinda hard to read the thread.


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  • #97
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    well seeing as a challenging discussion causes uproar what are we talking about...seeing as Christianity is out the door


  • #98
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    I just type fast Atomic


  • #99
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    sukikettle wrote: »
    well seeing as a challenging discussion causes uproar what are we talking about...seeing as Christianity is out the door

    i asked a question a page ago that id be interested in hearing your answer to? if you remember, you ignored it to tell me i had never read a book i have read


  • #100
    AMIIAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    Rockbeer, Interested in your comments. But looks to me you do not understand purpose/meaning of life. You seem to ascribe to people dying? But do they?Only bodies die. The SPIRIT LIVES. The ETERNAL Flame.


  • #101
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Helix wrote: »
    i asked a question a page ago that id be interested in hearing your answer to? if you remember, you ignored it to tell me i had never read a book i have read

    Suki doesn't seem so much interested in answering questions.


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  • #102
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Rockbeer, Interested in your comments. But looks to me you do not understand purpose/meaning of life. You seem to ascribe to people dying? But do they?Only bodies die. The SPIRIT LIVES. The ETERNAL Flame.

    you say that far too matter of factly for my likings


  • #103
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    Suki doesn't seem so much interested in answering questions.

    i just realised i keep taking these threads off topic :o

    im genuinely interested in the questions i ask and the responses i get tho... would a "helix asks christians questions" thread be frowned upon? rather than me hijacking?


  • #104
    rockbeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭rockbeer


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Rockbeer, Interested in your comments. But looks to me you do not understand purpose/meaning of life. You seem to ascribe to people dying? But do they?Only bodies die. The SPIRIT LIVES. The ETERNAL Flame.

    Well, firstly I'd question anyone who claims to know the meaning or purpose of life for certain. Or even whether there is one. We're all just speculating.

    Personally I tend towards a selfish gene type view, but I don't think life has a directed or 'higher' purpose, and I see no evidence for any kind of spirit that survives us after bodily death. Obviously you do, and that's fine, we'll just have to disagree. As far as I'm concerned, when you die you die, which is as it should be.


  • #105
    AMIIAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    Not my problem whatever your thoughts. I only expressed an opinion.


  • #106
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    I'm fed up and Helix I don't believe you and what is off-topic??????????
    Don't aethiests have a sense of humour and can't you handle Christians without the aid of a moderator Hatter (one of you..I forget who ran to tell)????????????????????????????????


  • #107
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    p.s. I know what off-topic is before you explain or fetch the mod guys


  • #108
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    ok I'll be serious...I missed a question earlier I believe and by the way I forgive all of you... as Aethiests I don't expect you guys to return the favour


  • #109
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    sukikettle wrote: »
    I'm fed up and Helix I don't believe you and what is off-topic??????????

    why dont you believe me? ive always been exceptionally interested in religion, and why people believe them, and what people believe. its a very interesting field i think, plus there are some quality stories in them

    whats so hard to believe about that. and why do you keep dodging the question? can you not remember it? will i post it again if you missed it first time maybe?


  • #110
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    sukikettle wrote: »
    ok I'll be serious...I missed a question earlier I believe

    youre only a christian coz youre from a country where christianity is a mainstream religion

    if you were born in iran youd be a muslim, and telling people the same things about islam

    how does that make you feel?

    that was it

    if youd answer it id be appreciative, if you dont wanna its cool. im just curious since youre one of the more preachy members of the board, so id like your view on this


  • #111
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Ok Helix I'll answer you...


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  • #112
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    I am a born again aka John 3:7 (a man must be born again) whether he is a catholic or protestant or muslim a man will not make it to heaven unless he is born again. We judge God horizontally as in we judge him according to ourselves what we perceive to be fair and just but when you judge yourself vertically i.e against the almighty God you are forced to take a long hard look at yourself. We are all liars, thieves, fornicators etc. We deserve nothing. But He sent His son to save us and we were told explicitly to go and preach the gospel to all nations. Jesus Christ Himself is appearing in dreams and men are being converted by God Himself. You cannot say a man is truly condemned if he never hears the gospel as His love and mercy is infinite and we cannot install our sense of justice into a God who is our creator and redeemer. God does exactly what He wants and His rules are just that, His. But woe to the man who hears and rejects. That there is the rub my friend and I am not preachy. I believe what I am saying. You would also know from reading the bible;) muslims and the jewish share Abraham and both were blessed except the Lord who is generational declared Himself to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the descendants of Sarah his wife the free woman and not Hagar the slave woman...see Romans wherein lies the other rub among the faiths


  • #113
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Er...are you aware that that doesn't answer, or even address, the question?


  • #114
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    There is a truth and a truer truth...I live in a nation of pagans. This is not a mainstream Christian country. It is a mainstream religious country and religiousness is as bad as nothingness. There are as many Christians here as there are in a muslim nation and we all carry the responsibility to carry the gospel. And muslim or catholic each is condemned by God who rejects His holy Word. I cannot be clearer


  • #115
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    sukikettle wrote: »
    There is a truth and a truer truth...I live in a nation of pagans. This is not a mainstream Christian country. It is a mainstream religious country and religiousness is as bad as nothingness. There are as many Christians here as there are in a muslim nation and we all carry the responsibility to carry the gospel. And muslim or catholic each is condemned by God who rejects His holy Word. I cannot be clearer

    Yes, that's all marvellous, but what Helix asked was:
    if you were born in iran youd be a muslim, and telling people the same things about islam

    how does that make you feel?


  • #116
    Nerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    sukikettle wrote: »
    There is a truth and a truer truth...I live in a nation of pagans. This is not a mainstream Christian country. It is a mainstream religious country and religiousness is as bad as nothingness. There are as many Christians here as there are in a muslim nation and we all carry the responsibility to carry the gospel. And muslim or catholic each is condemned by God who rejects His holy Word. I cannot be clearer

    It was our country first >_>

    :p


  • #117
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    Hatter the Qu'ran is based like the torah on the bible...same history...same story except the muslims have Mohammed and have you ever googled who he exactly is and then compare him to the only person born of man to claim to be the son of God made flesh and heal everyone He came in contact with. Mohammed didn't fulfil any prophecies or make such claims or perform such signs. I'm confident I'd be a convert to Christianity anyway. Don't forget in Romans it talks about predestination. I was chosen along with countless others at creation. Your supposition what if I were born into Islam is more or less null and void. It was never going to happen and it was never going to be my dilemma


  • #118
    sukikettle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭sukikettle


    So Hatter how does that make you feel...perhaps God doesn't want you perhaps you're of the number He talks about giving them over to their vile ways and hardening their hearts. Do you think your soul can bear a permanent separation. Are you prepared for that sort of terrible rejection. You can be all cavalier now in life but you have no control beyond death and certainly those left behind cannot pray it better for you


  • #119
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    suki, let me guess... mother by day, internet warrior by night. :pac:

    Your energies (and typing skills) would really be better spent in some Christian chat room.


  • #120
    deadhead13
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    Its surely preferable than being dead forever


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  • #121
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    sukikettle wrote: »
    So Hatter how does that make you feel...perhaps God doesn't want you perhaps you're of the number He talks about giving them over to their vile ways and hardening their hearts. Do you think your soul can bear a permanent separation. Are you prepared for that sort of terrible rejection. You can be all cavalier now in life but you have no control beyond death and certainly those left behind cannot pray it better for you

    Ugh.

    Look, generally speaking I'm not really interested in arguing over which religion is right. I've made my choices and am quite happy with my life as it is at the moment. I'm not here to try to convert anyone, and I'd very much appreciate if you were to extend to me the same courtesy. If not, don't worry - I forgive you. (And I'm not saying that to be glib, but to be honest, your attempts don't bother me that much, and are easily forgiven.) Also, I never made the supposition that if you were born into Islam that you'd be a Muslim (though to be honest, it's a reasonable assumption to make) - that was Helix.

    As to what your above post means to me - virtually nothing. I see very little historical validity in any holy books, so their interrelationships don't concern me.


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