I have never been so ashamed to be Irish

Hazys

I have never been ashamed to be irish in my life. I just arrived back for Boston this morning for christmass. I used to laugh at the americans for being so pedantic when it came to service in bars etc My attitude was look at those egijjts, just get over it and have a good time.

But i have never been left feeling so angry after a night out. I went out to Havanna Browns in Cork this evening with my buddies which i havent seen in months. But the lights went out in the club. Half the club was pitch dark. I was sitting there in the dark enjoying my pint talking to my friend with only the light off my phone aluminating the area around us. Lights were out still after an hour but the bar was still serving...what a f*cking joke. Nobody seemed to care that this was seriously dangerous, my buddies were still drinking away having the time of their lives.

After an hour of pitch dark i went up to the bouncer to ask why they hadnt cleared people out of the pitch dark areas because if any1 fell the club would be extremely liable. The bouncer made a joke about how the club was trying to reduce its carbon footprint (Im pretty sure this joke would still be that funny if the place had been Stardust2). I was shocked at his response. The club didnt give a sh1t as long as it was making money and the customers didnt give a sh1t as long we were getting served. Are we that dependent on alcohol that we dont care if our safety is being threaten in the persuit of getting hammered?

I got pissed of and went downstairs to demand a refund, i got my 15 euro back(the most expensive night club in boston is $15). So i went to find a Garda to complain about it. It took me 45 mins to find a Garda on the streets of Cork city on one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. I found two Gardai outside the coal quay on their way to the bridewell station, explained the situation to them, they said they'd get on it right away after they went into the station to fill out some paperwork. W*nkers completely blew me off, didnt give a sh1t. Whats amazing is last year my best friend's brother, a 1st class primary school teacher was jumped from behind on MacCurtain street and beaten within an inch of his life 3 days before christmass. The only thing that saved him was his girlfriend screaming as the scumbag jumped on his head. On MacCurtain street not a garda in sight!!!! The Gardai are dicks.

After the Gardai blew me off I went to Hillbillies to get food. Got my food, crossed the road to eat it in a bus stop. As i was eating, outside hillbillies a fight broke out. What i could see from across the road was a guy's girlfriend trying to stop him from fighting, ending up ur1 getting slapped to the ground by her boyfriend for getting in the way. Eventually friends stopped the fight and ur1 and the boyfriend hopped in to a taxi together! Again not a Garda in sight


Im not trying to come across as holyier than thou, as i like to go on the piss just like every1 else. I normally wouldnt even complain about service in a restaurant or a bar but what i witnessed in Havannas was a disgrace. I was talking about how it was a disgrace to my friends, they were agreeing but really didnt care as long as they had a pint in their hands, just like every1 else in the club. At least i know in Boston this wouldnt happen as their is generally a police pressence in most clubs every odd week and also americans wouldnt stand for it. But are we so reliant on getting hammered that we dont give a sh1t about anything else? Are the same people who complain about getting ripped off in Ireland sitting in a pitch dark night club paying for drinks and admission that are way more expensive than the top notch nightclubs in Boston and other cities?

Well,go back to America you freedom:mad: hater!!!!!!!!!!!!!

x in the city

Ireland is a joke, most people (well most sensible people) realise it by now, and havana browns is a kip of a place, like most clubs in cork tbh.

I do my socialising in Frankfurt, different world

badinfleunce

You need to give up drinking at night. If you drink during the day instead you will not encounter this problem. At night its dark, during the day its bright.

Senna

There are far better reasons to be ashamed to be Irish than people continuing to enjoy a night out in the dark.

Terry

I had a great night with other boardsies.

You're obviously going to the wrong places.

Reganio 2

x in the city wrote: »

I do my socialising in Frankfurt, different world

Not really its just in Germany

I have never been more ashamed to be Irish than when I read that and seen a person of legal drinking age i.e. Over 18, still spells everyone with a 1 instead of one.

Terry

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Not really its just in Germany

I have never been more ashamed to be Irish than when I read that and seen a person of legal drinking age i.e. Over 18, still spells everyone with a 1 instead of one.

grammer

jill_valentine

Pff.

West Brit.


Seriously though, sitting around drinking in the dark is pretty Barney Gumble tragic. I kind of think we like to live down to stereotype sometimes.

Xavi6

You were in Cork. There's your problem.

koq

So what, the lights went out in a club, i didn't even bother to read the full length of your post, howsabout next weekend you just stay in :rolleyes:

x in the city

Not really its just in Germany

ummm, I dont suppose you have been to Germany, to compare Germany with Ireland is not comparing like with like.

In Germany you dont get the shoite kicked out of you after midnight in big cities after a few jars (of vastly superior beer), you can then hop onto a very efficent train without the fear of getting killed on the way home.

Ireland is a shambolic country no matter what way you look at it.

Ireland prides itself as being a modern civil place to be but we are vastly losing that image.

A poster compared Denmark with Ireland recently about our tax money and where it is going, Denmark also puts Ireland to shame, like most other countries.

seanybiker

you stayed for an hour in the dark and demanded your money back. I would have told ya to go fook yourself if ya asked for the money back.
Go back to boston if you dont like the place.
Become a cop since you know where everything. is going to happen.sadly irish cops dont have that ability to see into the future yet so can only work to human standards.

Four-Too

Hazys wrote: »

I have never been ashamed to be irish in my life. I just arrived back for Boston this morning for christmass. I used to laugh at the americans for being so pedantic when it came to service in bars etc My attitude was look at those egijjts, just get over it and have a good time.

But i have never been left feeling so angry after a night out. I went out to Havanna Browns in Cork this evening with my buddies which i havent seen in months. But the lights went out in the club. Half the club was pitch dark. I was sitting there in the dark enjoying my pint talking to my friend with only the light off my phone aluminating the area around us. Lights were out still after an hour but the bar was still serving...what a f*cking joke. Nobody seemed to care that this was seriously dangerous, my buddies were still drinking away having the time of their lives.

After an hour of pitch dark i went up to the bouncer to ask why they hadnt cleared people out of the pitch dark areas because if any1 fell the club would be extremely liable. The bouncer made a joke about how the club was trying to reduce its carbon footprint (Im pretty sure this joke would still be that funny if the place had been Stardust2). I was shocked at his response. The club didnt give a sh1t as long as it was making money and the customers didnt give a sh1t as long we were getting served. Are we that dependent on alcohol that we dont care if our safety is being threaten in the persuit of getting hammered?

I got pissed of and went downstairs to demand a refund, i got my 15 euro back(the most expensive night club in boston is $15). So i went to find a Garda to complain about it. It took me 45 mins to find a Garda on the streets of Cork city on one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. I found two Gardai outside the coal quay on their way to the bridewell station, explained the situation to them, they said they'd get on it right away after they went into the station to fill out some paperwork. W*nkers completely blew me off, didnt give a sh1t. Whats amazing is last year my best friend's brother, a 1st class primary school teacher was jumped from behind on MacCurtain street and beaten within an inch of his life 3 days before christmass. The only thing that saved him was his girlfriend screaming as the scumbag jumped on his head. On MacCurtain street not a garda in sight!!!! The Gardai are dicks.

After the Gardai blew me off I went to Hillbillies to get food. Got my food, crossed the road to eat it in a bus stop. As i was eating, outside hillbillies a fight broke out. What i could see from across the road was a guy's girlfriend trying to stop him from fighting, ending up ur1 getting slapped to the ground by her boyfriend for getting in the way. Eventually friends stopped the fight and ur1 and the boyfriend hopped in to a taxi together! Again not a Garda in sight


Im not trying to come across as holyier than thou, as i like to go on the piss just like every1 else. I normally wouldnt even complain about service in a restaurant or a bar but what i witnessed in Havannas was a disgrace. I was talking about how it was a disgrace to my friends, they were agreeing but really didnt care as long as they had a pint in their hands, just like every1 else in the club. At least i know in Boston this wouldnt happen as their is generally a police pressence in most clubs every odd week and also americans wouldnt stand for it. But are we so reliant on getting hammered that we dont give a sh1t about anything else? Are the same people who complain about getting ripped off in Ireland sitting in a pitch dark night club paying for drinks and admission that are way more expensive than the top notch nightclubs in Boston and other cities?

Lol just lol. There are worse things going on and things more worth worrying about in this world. Drunks don't deserve and more to the point don't GET any better treatment than what they got there. Sober people have more integrity and are respected more.

dSTAR

So you stay in the club enjoying yourself and getting pissed yet you complain that the bar is still serving drinks and that they could be liable if you broke your leg?

I would have seen the nightclub incident as a little anecdote to tell my buddies when I went back to Boston but you see it to as an opportunity to whinge about the state of Ireland and how ashamed you are to be Irish.

As for the other stuff all I can say is that there are worse things happening in other places. Water, bridge, over, under

StiffLitlemicky

x in the city wrote: »

ummm, I dont suppose you have been to Germany, to compare Germany with Ireland is not comparing like with like.

In Germany you dont get the shoite kicked out of you after midnight in big cities after a few jars (of vastly superior beer), you can then hop onto a very efficent train without the fear of getting killed on the way home.

Ireland is a shambolic country no matter what way you look at it.

Ireland prides itself as being a modern civil place to be but we are vastly losing that image.

A poster compared Denmark with Ireland recently about our tax money and where it is going, Denmark also puts Ireland to shame, like most other countries.

:rolleyes:

Yeah the Germans are a real peace loving nation.

And yes I have been there.:pac:

seanybiker

StiffLitlemicky wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Yeah the Germans are a real peace loving nation.

And yes I have been there.:pac:

Tee hee hee.

paul larry

seanybiker wrote: »

Go back to boston if you dont like the place.
Become a cop since you know where everything. is going to happen.sadly irish cops dont have that ability to see into the future yet so can only work to human standards.

well said seany what were the guards gonna do. no lights doesnt constitute a public order problem.....were they gonna pop open the fuse box n give it some law lol
yanks ave obviously rubbed off on u ya plank.....go back there

Hazys

paul larry wrote: »

well said seany what were the guards gonna do. no lights doesnt constitute a public order problem.....were they gonna pop open the fuse box n give it some law lol
yanks ave obviously rubbed off on u ya plank.....go back there

No lights in a public place is an extremely dangerous fire hazard.

Im only using Boston as the example cos its the only place i've lived in and i can compare it to. I presume it'd be the same situation in France. When you compare Ireland's drinking habits to other countries we should be ashamed.

Its great that people here think that alcohol related violence and abuse is not a big issue for this country. Am i the only 1 whos pissed off that there are no Gardai on the streets at night? Where a girl can get slapped around on the busiest night time street on Cork without any reprecussions?

seanybiker

plenty of cops on the street they just cant be on every street all the time is all.

dSTAR

Hazys wrote: »

No lights in a public place is an extremely dangerous fire hazard.

Things like fuses blowing and not having a replacement can't be helped. I am sure the owner/manager of the club was onto it. Not sure why you felt the need to spend 45 minutes on a busy night trying to find a cop to report it. Waste of your time as well as theirs as far as I can see.

MarkR

Hazys wrote: »

Am i the only 1 whos pissed off that there are no Gardai on the streets at night? Where a girl can get slapped around on the busiest night time street on Cork without any reprecussions?

They are guards, not fecking spiderman. They don't have spidey-sense. Did you call the guards when you saw the incident? If you had I'm sure they would have come.

Lighten up man, it's Christmas. Big up the J.C.

vibe666

you should sue their asses right back to the stone age! :rolleyes:

seriously, it sounds like you could have been having great craic if you'd wanted to in a club with no lights, sounds like everyone else was.

you're not in your uber controlling nanny state now, enjoy your freedom whilst it lasts. you'll be at US customs getting your bubble wrap and crash helmet re-fitted in no time.

noel farrell

i think you made a mountain out of a mole hill

wingnut

We were at a function at a hotel in Wexford and the electricity went so the tills went down. Their reaction was to round everything up. I.E something that was 3.80 was now 4.

It shows you:
1. How bad people are at maths these days
2. These guys are money grabbing b*****s

TheNog

Hazys wrote: »

Where a girl can get slapped around on the busiest night time street on Cork without any reprecussions?

Is this the same girl who later got into a taxi with the same fella that slapped her? If she did that then there was probably no way she would make a complaint to any guard.

Tbh your whole post is whingy and I think for anyone to say they are ashamed to be Irish is the most shameful thing to say. Yes we have problems in our country but the last thing we should do is turn our back and walk away from it.

PDN

Hazys wrote: »

After an hour of pitch dark i went up to the bouncer to ask why they hadnt cleared people out of the pitch dark areas because if any1 fell the club would be extremely liable. The bouncer made a joke about how the club was trying to reduce its carbon footprint (Im pretty sure this joke would still be that funny if the place had been Stardust2). I was shocked at his response.

There you are -bouncers with a great sense of humour! Makes me proud to be Irish.

In many countries the bouncer would have given you a slap round the head for whinging.

Feelgood

I saw a video recently called 'Banned in America' where an American man who was dying of Aids killed himself on national TV because he couldn't get health care in the US because he couldn't afford health insurance.

He stopped in the middle of a freeway in protest and set off a petrol bomb inside his truck with his dog to kill himself. When the petrol bomb went off, he jumped out of the truck in flames and rolled around and the flames went out.

Obviously still alive he then tried to jump of the freeway bridge but couldn't go through with it, so he ran to the back of his truck and took out an M16 and blew his head off.

This was broadcasted live on tv for 25 minutes and there wasn't a cop in sight, all because he couldn't get health care.

Being ashamed of being Irish is one thing, but then trying to make out that we are worse than Americans?. Are you for real?.

pipeliner

well, i would have 'tripped' over a stool if i was in your shoes that night. COMPO!!! : )

stovelid

Hazys wrote: »

I have never been so ashamed to be Irish

I raise you Westlife.

professore

Hazys wrote: »

I have never been ashamed to be irish in my life. I just arrived back for Boston this morning for christmass. I used to laugh at the americans for being so pedantic when it came to service in bars etc My attitude was look at those egijjts, just get over it and have a good time.

But i have never been left feeling so angry after a night out. I went out to Havanna Browns in Cork this evening with my buddies which i havent seen in months. But the lights went out in the club. Half the club was pitch dark. I was sitting there in the dark enjoying my pint talking to my friend with only the light off my phone aluminating the area around us. Lights were out still after an hour but the bar was still serving...what a f*cking joke. Nobody seemed to care that this was seriously dangerous, my buddies were still drinking away having the time of their lives.

After an hour of pitch dark i went up to the bouncer to ask why they hadnt cleared people out of the pitch dark areas because if any1 fell the club would be extremely liable. The bouncer made a joke about how the club was trying to reduce its carbon footprint (Im pretty sure this joke would still be that funny if the place had been Stardust2). I was shocked at his response. The club didnt give a sh1t as long as it was making money and the customers didnt give a sh1t as long we were getting served. Are we that dependent on alcohol that we dont care if our safety is being threaten in the persuit of getting hammered?

I got pissed of and went downstairs to demand a refund, i got my 15 euro back(the most expensive night club in boston is $15). So i went to find a Garda to complain about it. It took me 45 mins to find a Garda on the streets of Cork city on one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. I found two Gardai outside the coal quay on their way to the bridewell station, explained the situation to them, they said they'd get on it right away after they went into the station to fill out some paperwork. W*nkers completely blew me off, didnt give a sh1t. Whats amazing is last year my best friend's brother, a 1st class primary school teacher was jumped from behind on MacCurtain street and beaten within an inch of his life 3 days before christmass. The only thing that saved him was his girlfriend screaming as the scumbag jumped on his head. On MacCurtain street not a garda in sight!!!! The Gardai are dicks.

After the Gardai blew me off I went to Hillbillies to get food. Got my food, crossed the road to eat it in a bus stop. As i was eating, outside hillbillies a fight broke out. What i could see from across the road was a guy's girlfriend trying to stop him from fighting, ending up ur1 getting slapped to the ground by her boyfriend for getting in the way. Eventually friends stopped the fight and ur1 and the boyfriend hopped in to a taxi together! Again not a Garda in sight


Im not trying to come across as holyier than thou, as i like to go on the piss just like every1 else. I normally wouldnt even complain about service in a restaurant or a bar but what i witnessed in Havannas was a disgrace. I was talking about how it was a disgrace to my friends, they were agreeing but really didnt care as long as they had a pint in their hands, just like every1 else in the club. At least i know in Boston this wouldnt happen as their is generally a police pressence in most clubs every odd week and also americans wouldnt stand for it. But are we so reliant on getting hammered that we dont give a sh1t about anything else? Are the same people who complain about getting ripped off in Ireland sitting in a pitch dark night club paying for drinks and admission that are way more expensive than the top notch nightclubs in Boston and other cities?

You have a point ... but TBH you take your life in your hands now when out in Cork at night, no exaggeration.

A friend of mine was beaten to within an inch of his life BEFORE going for a few drinks with his work mates, he stood in a doorway out of the rain to call his wife and next thing he knew he was on the ground being kicked in the head. Was lucky not to lose his sight or worse.

If you want to be ashamed and proud to be Irish at the same time go sit in A&E for a few hours some night - ashamed when you see the sh1t those people get from both the patients and the Government, and proud when you see how they cope with it. Register to vote and vote for someone else other than FF in the next election.

One other thing - if it was in the States they would have rioted ... haven't you ever watched the Simpsons?

Overheal

Feelgood wrote: »

I saw a video recently called 'Banned in America' where an American man who was dying of Aids killed himself on national TV because he couldn't get health care in the US because he couldn't afford health insurance.

He stopped in the middle of a freeway in protest and set off a petrol bomb inside his truck with his dog to kill himself. When the petrol bomb went off, he jumped out of the truck in flames and rolled around and the flames went out.

Obviously still alive he then tried to jump of the freeway bridge but couldn't go through with it, so he ran to the back of his truck and took out an M16 and blew his head off.

This was broadcasted live on tv for 25 minutes and there wasn't a cop in sight, all because he couldn't get health care.

Being ashamed of being Irish is one thing, but then trying to make out that we are worse than Americans?. Are you for real?.

Because that kind of arrogance won't bite your ass down the road.

Pointing to another group of people and saying youre better than them only goes to show how unprepared you still are. When theres another tragic death smeared across the irish papers ill be there to say i told you so.

Its that whole We Dont Give a **** attitude that the OP is talking about thats going to end up with someone hurt. The bouncers going to be turned away when some girl is raped in an unlit corner. The "This isnt America" argument wont save her.

Raze_them_all

Hazys wrote: »

At least i know in Boston this wouldnt happen as their is generally a police pressence in most clubs every odd week

Maybe but we dont run the risk of being shot by trigger happy police or our fellow countrymen. Why because we can go on the piss and if worse comes to worse have a lil scrap, Not go off home for a handgun

jaykay74

I GuanYin wrote: »

You were in Cork. There's your problem.

hahaha.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Overheal

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Maybe but we dont run the risk of being shot by trigger happy police or our fellow countrymen. Why because we can go on the piss and if worse comes to worse have a lil scrap, Not go off home for a handgun

Do you honestly need sense pistol-whipped into you

my god man, wake up to your fúcking reality, please. More to follow.

Feelgood

Overheal wrote: »

Pointing to another group of people and saying youre better than them only goes to show how unprepared you still are.

Im not saying that we are better than any other group of people at all, but we definitely aren't worse!.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hazys wrote: »

It took me 45 mins to find a Garda on the streets of Cork city on one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. I found two Gardai outside the coal quay on their way to the bridewell station, explained the situation to them, they said they'd get on it right away after they went into the station to fill out some paperwork. W*nkers completely blew me off,

Hazys wrote: »

After the Gardai blew me off I went to Hillbillies to get food. ?

So tell me, do police officers in Boston not offer free blow jobs to returning exiles?.

samhail

sounds nice - any cheap hostels in cork at this time of year ?
bet NYE will be great !

Overheal

Feelgood wrote: »

Im not saying that we are better than any other group of people at all, but we definitely aren't worse!.

we are worse than Americans?. Are you for real?.

I dont know how I might have gotten confused there. Really.

the old mid-thirties takin their toll OP?

Madame Razz

Hazys wrote: »

The club didnt give a sh1t as long as it was making money and the customers didnt give a sh1t as long we were getting served.

Exactly. Win Win all round tbh:D

Mint Sauce

jill_valentine wrote: »

Pff.

West Brit.


Seriously though, sitting around drinking in the dark is pretty Barney Gumble tragic. I kind of think we like to live down to stereotype sometimes.

erm, the OP's from cork, well, thats where they were drinking

:rolleyes:

Darragh29

Hazys wrote: »

No lights in a public place is an extremely dangerous fire hazard.

Doubt it very much. Health & safety world is the last refuge of the absolute idiot imo. It's that little place people go to when they want to win an argument, "Oh, health & safety this and health and safety that and you are in extreme danger and watch out you are at extreme f*cking risk, look you're on fire! Who is going to pay, who will we sue??? Are we insured, can I claim??? Get Joe Duffy on the phone, someone call, f*CK, HELP, HELP, I've nobody to sue, call the Gardai, I want to make a written statement, I'm goona f*CKIN SUE YOU AND YOUR MONKEY"......................................................................................................

"F*CK OFF"!

faceman

Dont be lobbing the rest of the nation in with your talk about Cork ya langer! The rest of us are ashamed of Cork!

nice1franko

if thats the extent of your problems then you're doing alright.

frankly, if you're ashamed to be irish because of a blackout and not enough coppers on the street then we can do without you.

tell them we said hello when you go back to boston

Biggins

Hazys wrote: »

I have never been ashamed to be irish in my life. ...bla...blaa

Have you ever considered maybe then, actually staying in Ireland and making a difference then?

If you feel that strongly about things, why jump ship and go elsewhere. only to return here and just moan!
Sure there are other moaners here, but at least they are staying here, paying their taxes and some even standing up and trying to make a difference.

O' and before you complain about the €15 admission charge, I remind you of the fact that you went and paid it - no one forced the money from you. You actually walked up to the counter and handed over your money. Jeeze!
...and you have the nerve to come back and moan about it after you have entered and left the said building! For frak's sake!

Did it ever cross your mind that when it comes to Gardi that they actually recognised a muppet when they see one coming?
When they are on duty, they are buried in paperwork because the yobs of this state and their actions, can't afford to run off to the likes of Boston! When they are not paper filing for the courts, they are elsewhere dealing with other muppets around your locality!

Did you even think of complaining to the right people in the first place.
If you felt that strongly about the lights out situation, did it cross your mind to actually contact the RIGHT people, ie; the local fire station.
They are the ones that deal with the health and safety of crowded premises and associated risks, not some single copper on the street who would have to contact headquarters, who would then have to get onto a fire marshal at the nearest fire station anyway! Jeeze, for crying out loud!!!

O' and you complain that you witnessed a fight with a girl getting beat up.
So you ALSO stood there and watched - now you complain that something should have been done!
- This is just laughable. You really helped her out didn't you by standing there!

To sum up;
Some of us might be stuck on this small island, some of us might indeed be saddened to be unable to help when such things happen around us, but we stay here and moan, making a difference in our own way even if its just paying tax and vat!
Are we ashamed to be Irish? No.
Are we saddened that clearly some moaning idiotic muppets are Irish? O yes.

Do us a favour, go back to Boston and stay there.

RoosterIllusion

Biggins wrote: »

Are we ashamed to be Irish? No.
Are we saddened that clearly some moaning idiotic muppets are Irish? O yes.

Do us a favour, go back to Boston and stay there.

+1

Wibbs

+2 Yes you had an issue, yet(and I do feel irritated by many Irish in this sense) you like so many did sweet fanny adams about it. We're a great nation for moaning and standing back. You would swear we are addicted to moaning.

dotsman

+3

You went to Havanas and expected to have a good night?

Simple advice - Either stay away from the Knack-bars or go back to Boston.

RoosterIllusion

Regards Havana's, worth noting that all Reardans establishments seem to provide their own security. Their security are, in my experience, unprofessional assholes. I have never seen bouncers in Cork as bad as Reardans bouncers.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Biggins wrote: »

***I've just tore the OP a new asshole***