BluRay Of Death

eurojedward

What is the Blu-Ray of Death???

whiterebel

eurojedward wrote: »

What is the Blu-Ray of Death???

BROD - BluRay Of Death (Drive stops reading discs)
YLOD - Yellow Light Of Death (PS3 won't turn on) :rolleyes:


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Irishmaster

Oops, voted on the 60g one by accident! So hasnt happened to me yet!

Dont be at yourself

It happened to my 60gb Japanese launch console with backwards compatibility, so I wasn't going to replace it with a PS3 Slim.

Did some googling, watched some youtube videos and ended up fixing it with a heatgun. It's still running now, over a week later.

Irishmaster

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

It happened to my 60gb Japanese launch console with backwards compatibility, so I wasn't going to replace it with a PS3 Slim.

Did some googling, watched some youtube videos and ended up fixing it with a heatgun. It's still running now, over a week later.

Just to let you know i also tried that fix with my asian 60g when i got ylod and i got ylod again after a while. About a month or so. I dont think this is a permanent fix! Just to give you heads up and your disc might get stuck again.

Dont be at yourself

Just to let you know i also tried that fix with my asian 60g when i got ylod and i got ylod again after a while. About a month or so. I dont think this is a permanent fix! Just to give you heads up and your disc might get stuck again.

Yep, that seems to be the case. I'll keep the heat-gun handy anyway!

Heineken_Baron

COD 4 MW1 killed my 60GB launch PS3! The console was working perfectly up until yesterday when I put in the game (wanted to play the first before i get the second) and the screen froze. Now PS3 won't read discs, youtubed the problem and will access the recovery menu and see if that helps.

Anybody have any success with the recovery menu thing?

templar01

got mw2 on tuesday - updated to 3.01 - played for 10 minutes - 40 GB PS3 froze.
Rebooted , restarted the game and froze after about 10 mins again. rebuilt the DB, tried full format etc but still started to freeze . Was busy for a few days and came back to it to find the PS3 wont recognize any discs at all.
Era completely p**sed off with it now. Rang Sony - they seemed okay , said it could be replaced for a fee up to €160 - just bring it back to GAME with a reference number . GAME wanted nothing to do with it at all - had my receipt , PS3 was purchased about 20 months ago. So that's where i am now and thinking about getting it repaired . In Cork so if anyone knows good guys down here let us know please.

Heineken_Baron

In the exact same boat as you templar01. Not a happy camper at all at all. Bought the console at launch so spent alot on it, worked great up until i put that COD4 disc into it, now my laser reading is MIA. Have just tried reformating my system but no joy. What now? Anyone know a good website to buy new laser lens etc? And will that fix the problem?

Blackdagger

Exact same thing happened to me. Updated FW and CoD MW2 and failed the next day. Apparently this has become a World wide issuse with lawsuits being filed in US.

24+ months old. After that update it seems many old machines have packed in or 'Bricked'. Sony wont acknowledge there was a problem. I rarely used my Blu Ray and in fact used the DVD portion a lot more then the blu ray. Not a over zealous gamer who plays for days on end usualy ps3 is on standby or turned off completely for weeks on end until a game i want comes out.

Im always playing PC games and have it some DVDs to wach whilst playing Total War, so how my blu ray packed in after this update seems weird. Guess Sony sees no evil hears no evil.

whiterebel

Mods, seriously should there not be a mega-merge of the Blu-ray threads and stickied?
Who will think of the children?

norrie rugger

whiterebel wrote: »

Mods, seriously should there not be a mega-merge of the Blu-ray threads and stickied?
Who will think of the children?

I would actually leave the small claims court one alone. That could be very interesting, in its own right.

Paul MCM

This is the second time my 60gig has broken.

L'prof

I suppose this deserves a bump, launch model still going strong.

scienceoverBS

3 of my friends have suffered , i put 1 on to that heat gun tutorial on youtube ,he has since fixed all three. i cant stress enough if your not that good with your hands and a bit clumsy id steer well clear. i have mine since may 08 ,40 gb model . i dont watch blu rays and its fine.

Stimpyone

My 3 year old Xbox went error 74 on me last Thursday. Right on the last level of BioShock 2.. I was gutted. Contacted MS through their website and it was collected for repair/replacement by UPS the next morning. All for FREE.

Bought Heavy Rain to cheer myself up and unfortunately my 1 year 2 month old 80gb PS3 went blue-ray of death a day later (what are the odds eh?). Oddly enough just after I'd gotten around to updating to FW 3.15.
However it's going to cost me 160 euro for me to get it fixed through the proper channels.

Both are known manufacture issues, Sony just refuses to acknowledge it. It's no wonder the company's going down the ****ter. I deffo won't be buying Sony again.

Now I have to watch telly with the wife and talk to my family. Thanks a lot MS/Sony.:mad:

noodler

Stimpyone wrote: »

my 1 year 2 month old 80gb PS3 went blue-ray of death a day later (what are the odds eh?).

Both are known manufacture issues, Sony just refuses to acknowledge it. It's no wonder the company's going down the ****ter. I deffo won't be buying Sony again.

If its really 14 months old then you should be small claims courting it if there is no retailer satisfaction. While the amont of time these things should last would be down to a Judge, there is surely no way anyone would argue 14 months was an acceptable lifespan.

It really is hard to see if there is an actual issue for Sony to address, you hear different errors but some people just report them as YOLD or some mistaken report their PS3 not working (not just the laser) as BROD.


My PS3 is exactly as old as yours but I bought it up North. Not sure if that would involve driving up a number of times, I would probably ring once and then threaten legal action but obviously the small claims court wouldn't really be an option.

mcgooch

AtomicHorror wrote: »

60GB since launch day. No issues.

+1

Stimpyone

noodler wrote: »

It really is hard to see if there is an actual issue for Sony to address, you hear different errors but some people just report them as YOLD or some mistaken report their PS3 not working (not just the laser) as BROD.

I understand what your saying but the volume of reported Blu ray of death issues is astronomical.

Especially after Firmware updates which is what happened to mine. It ran fine on 3.10 but refused to play any discs when I upgraded to 3.15.

Sony know there's an issue here but refuse to except it. Bad business practice if you ask me.

Wouldn't it be simpler to have an error code system.

noodler

Stimpyone wrote: »

I understand what your saying but the volume of reported Blu ray of death issues is astronomical.

Especially after Firmware updates which is what happened to mine. It ran fine on 3.10 but refused to play any discs when I upgraded to 3.15.

Sony know there's an issue here but refuse to except it. Bad business practice if you ask me.

Wouldn't it be simpler to have an error code system.

I couldn't possibly get into the FW debate but it is conceivable that, given there are around 30m PS3s out there, some are inevitably going to break around the same time as one of the frequent FW updates.

Soembody said the acceptable failure rate for electronics was around the 4% mark. So again, what you may call astronomical may well only be 1% (1% of 30m seems like alot I grant you).

Anyway, I am just speculating and I know its the last thing you want to hear when your own system had broken but you notice the only people that ever say it is a major issue, in some way comparable to RROD, are those who have their system failing them.

Regardless, you should be taking legal action as again I don't believe any judge will say 14 months is acceptable - you will most likely get it settled outside of court as I do not see how you would realistically lose in an actual courtroom setting. Just follow the steps outline by Yellow-whatshisname in this thread among others.

Stimpyone

Thanks for the advice and I don't mean to argue but if you take this threads poll as a snap shot out of the 279
people that bothered to vote 95 of them have had an issue with their PS3.

I'm a fanboy of neither console and I own all 3 of the current crop but after having failures in my Xbox and PS3 almost on the same day
and spent lots and lots of hours looking for fixes for both on the net I would reckon that the PS3 has near to the same fail rate as the Xbox. Despite what people say...

Just my two cents.

Xbox arrived back today so back to the rapture with me....

L'prof

Stimpyone wrote: »

I'm a fanboy of neither console and I own all 3 of the current crop but after having failures in my Xbox and PS3 almost on the same day
and spent lots and lots of hours looking for fixes for both on the net I would reckon that the PS3 has near to the same fail rate as the Xbox. Despite what people say...

Just my two cents.

Xbox arrived back today so back to the rapture with me....

2 + 2 != 5

noodler

Stimpyone wrote: »

Thanks for the advice and I don't mean to argue but if you take this threads poll as a snap shot out of the 279
people that bothered to vote 95 of them have had an issue with their PS3.

I would reckon that the PS3 has near to the same fail rate as the Xbox.

Go to the consumer affairs forum on this website and you will find that around 95% of transactions with Irish retailers end in dispute.

landsleaving

Ah now to be fair, enough people who post here anyway have had it happen, it's not just a few isolated incidents. If sony simply made it a 3 year or 5 year warranty there'd be no complaints and much happier consumers. There is quite clearly a problem, maybe not RROD level, but it's enough that sony should be sayiing or doing something. Just because you own a ps3 which hasn't broken doesn't mean you should be giving out anout people who's have. It still might happen to you and then you'll feel a whole lot different! (I hope it doesn't happen to all you people who ahve one still working though)

noodler

landsleaving wrote: »

Ah now to be fair, enough people who post here anyway have had it happen, it's not just a few isolated incidents.

Again, 30m PS3s. You can't just disregard scale and context because theres 2 or 3 a week on Boards.ie who suffer the failures.

I don't have access to the figures, so I will qualify everything I say with the admission there could be an issue on a similar scale to RROD but evidence like "I have seen loads of complaints on the net" or "a fair few people around here have had it happen to them" aren't really proof of anything.

I only have a minor background in statistics, someone with more expertise can tell me I am wrong, but there are numerous problem with a poll like this regarding sample size and the people it attracts.

landsleaving wrote: »

If sony simply made it a 3 year or 5 year warranty there'd be no complaints and much happier consumers.

I fully agree that something you pay this much money for should have a larger warranty - although i think 5 would be pushing it. A two year warranty would provide far more assurance.

landsleaving wrote: »

There is quite clearly a problem, maybe not RROD level,

Again, what evidence is there of failures over the level of "acceptable" breakdown for electronics?

landsleaving wrote: »

Just because you own a ps3 which hasn't broken doesn't mean you should be giving out anout people who's have. It still might happen to you and then you'll feel a whole lot different! (I hope it doesn't happen to all you people who ahve one still working though)

You get a bit petty at the end, suffice to say I am not "giving out to anybody". I am simply trying to ask people who suffer the failure to avoid illogical conclusions. "My PS3 broke so they are all inherently faulty" for example - there just isn't the data for such a claim.

I would never advise anybody against claiming against a retailer or Sony - if mine breaks in the morning (I'll be on slightly shakier ground cos I got it up north) I will certainly do what I can to get a replacement but I won't lose all perspective and start claiming there is some mass inherent fault on the RROD scale.

L'prof

landsleaving wrote: »

Just because you own a ps3 which hasn't broken doesn't mean you should be giving out anout people who's have. It still might happen to you and then you'll feel a whole lot different! (I hope it doesn't happen to all you people who ahve one still working though)

I just hate this whole attitude that if it's happened to you and a few people who've bothered to post on an online poll that it's a massive problem that sony must be held accountable for. Unless you've got real figures to back it up with, please stop with the fear mongering! There's clearly been issues but until, I see an official report into the numbers of such, I can't say how bad it is and neither can you! Until then, let's hope my launch model keeps running as it has and if not, I have it insured anyway so, no biggy!

landsleaving

I hate that people who paid €500+ for a console have it break down and can't do anything about it. It shouldn't happen at all and if and when it does there should be a longer warranty. Plus people are entitled to be annoyed about it happening to them, it's not exactly fun for them (Hasn't happened to me yet... fingers crossed) and good on you for getting insurance, smart move, but you're just paying extra for a warranty that should already be there and that's not exactly fair is it?

Simple fact is, yeah electronics have faults and maybe this is less of a problem than people want to believe, but when things do break down they should be replaced and a year is not a reasonable amount of time for a warranty.

I sincerely doubt this is a small problem though. It seems to be pretty widespread in comaprison with older consoles and other electronics although other electronics probably have a decent warranty so no one complains. It's not even the machines breaking down thats the main problem, it's the lack of support when they do.

Also who's going to do a report? Sony? Not gonna happen. So people can only really ask others. It's not fearmongering, people just want a better service.

noodler

landsleaving wrote: »

I hate that people who paid €500+ for a console have it break down and can't do anything about it. It shouldn't happen at all and if and when it does there should be a longer warranty. Plus people are entitled to be annoyed about it happening to them, it's not exactly fun for them (Hasn't happened to me yet... fingers crossed) and good on you for getting insurance, smart move, but you're just paying extra for a warranty that should already be there and that's not exactly fair is it?

Simple fact is, yeah electronics have faults and maybe this is less of a problem than people want to believe, but when things do break down they should be replaced and a year is not a reasonable amount of time for a warranty.

I sincerely doubt this is a small problem though. It seems to be pretty widespread in comaprison with older consoles and other electronics although other electronics probably have a decent warranty so no one complains. It's not even the machines breaking down thats the main problem, it's the lack of support when they do.

Also who's going to do a report? Sony? Not gonna happen. So people can only really ask others. It's not fearmongering, people just want a better service.

Agree with just about all of that, really would prefer if warranties were longer.

I would love to know how many people, just as a side though, don't realise they shouldn't turn their PS3s off before shutting them down, or that they shouldn't be kept in enclosed spaces or that the vents should be vaccumed (as it says in the manual) once in a while for dust.

L'prof

landsleaving wrote: »

good on you for getting insurance, smart move, but you're just paying extra for a warranty that should already be there and that's not exactly fair is it?

I felt a lot more comfortable covering it for accidental damage than just going with a factory warranty or any extension of such that could be attained through the small claims court especially since I intended on changing the hard drive which, fortunately went without too much trouble.

Just a quick search found this regarding tv's which by and large are far more expensive:

Manufacturer warranties
The standard warranty covers parts for one year and labor for 90 days. Some manufacturer warranties have separate time frames for the picture element--such as the tube, which is often covered for two years--and the rest of the TV. High-end TVs, especially plasmas, often have a one-year labor warranty. Some manufacturers also offer in-home service on more expensive and larger models that are difficult to ship.

landsleaving

Probably made my point a LOT clearer in tha post so!

I'd say a lot of people leave them in stupid places to be fair, and that's their own fault entirely.