M7 - Nenagh to Limerick

Tech3

mysterious wrote: »

it will be finished in early December

Yeah cant wait to see this section opening soon. We will have continuous motorway from Rossbrien- Nenagh later this year.

mysterious

The Word Is Bor wrote: »

Ah well, hysterious. Some rumours you want to believe and others that you don't want to believe. I don't recall the NRA giving a definitive date for this road opening. On their site it simply states Q4 2009. We all know how often those have had to change in the past and their current accuracy.

My source was the same person who confirmed a mid-late December opening a good few months back. The explanation is down to ground conditions in the bogs. Both of which I gave a few pages back.

Now why don't you do your usual trick of posting something by banging your forehead on the keyboard repeatedly while using bold text with your unique brand of grammar to put forward your cogent arguments.

The name is mysterious, careful now.


Who is the mans name?
Who was the man that said the ofiicial date and then backtracked it

Lookig forward to you response.


You said bogs, but thats it. There is a bog of Allen too, in the middle of Kidare there was no stopping the N6 motorway from ploughing through. If the road builders can plough through granite can't see what this fuss is that your trying to spread.

The problem with this route, was the previous contractor went into red, that is what delayed the project.

If this is all through give me the name and email of the guy and I'll talk to him:)

murphaph

mysterious wrote: »

The name is mysterious, careful now.


Who is the mans name?
Who was the man that said the ofiicial date and then backtracked it

Lookig forward to you response.


You said bogs, but thats it. There is a bog of Allen too, in the middle of Kidare there was no stopping the N6 motorway from ploughing through. If the road builders can plough through granite can't see what this fuss is that your trying to spread.

The problem with this route, was the previous contractor went into red, that is what delayed the project.

If this is all through give me the name and email of the guy and I'll talk to him:)

The N6 has never passed through any part of Kildare!

The M7 motorway DID duffer LONG delays in Kildare of course (Kildare bypass project) as anyone who KNOWS anyhting about roads knows ;-)

mysterious

murphaph wrote: »

The N6 has never passed through any part of Kildare!

The M7 motorway DID duffer LONG delays in Kildare of course (Kildare bypass project) as anyone who KNOWS anyhting about roads knows ;-)

The bogs also go into Offaly as well in case you didn't know. And the N6 at Horseleap goes through the bog.

It's a bog.


In other words no big deal. In other countries they wouldn't look at it(like we do) They would just build the road.

Carawaystick

mysterious wrote: »

The bogs also go into Offaly as well in case you didn't know. And the N6 at Horseleap goes through the bog.

It's a bog.


In other words no big deal. In other countries they wouldn't look at it(like we do) They would just build the road.

The N6 doesn't go through Horseleap anymore. There is no bog immediately on any side of the old N6 route through Horseleap, which is very close to the Eiscer Riada.

The M6 goes through bog between near Kinnegad and Kilbeggan. All of this is east of Horseleap and in Westmeath.

Carawaystick

De Paper are saying this:

de Paper wrote:

THE massive tunnel highway being built under the Shannon near Limerick city is ahead of schedule and likely to be open for traffic by September 2010.

It will cut travelling times for thousands of commuters every day, connecting all the main routes along the western corridor between the west, the south and the south west. It will bypass Limerick city.

The tunnel is a key element of Limerick’s new Southern Ring Road, a 9.7km four-lane highway. The tunnel will run for 900m, of which 675m will be under the Shannon.

The tunnel connects the southern side of the Shannon near the cement factory in Mungret to the northern riverside near the Radisson Hotel on the Ennis Road.

Then transport minister Martin Cullen turned the first sod on the tunnel site on October 26, 2006.

Mayor of Limerick Cllr Kevin Kiely, following a visit to the tunnel site, said: "Such is the rate of progress being made, there is a good chance the tunnel will be open ahead of schedule as early as September 2010."

The construction of the tunnel is one of the biggest engineering projects of its kind ever undertaken in Ireland.

The road network on either side of the tunnel will include the provision of 11 new access bridges, six underpasses and four interchanges.

The tunnel itself consists of five precast concrete tubes which were made by Austrian specialists, Strabag. They were floated out on to the river and lowered onto foundations which were set on the river bed.

To lay the tunnel foundations, 800,000 tonnes of silt had to be dredged from the river and six million tons of rock placed along the line of the tunnel to stabilise the soft river bed.

This work was completed last July and the road builders, Direct Route, have confirmed mechanical and electrical contractors have been engaged now to start fitting out the tunnel. The work is scheduled to commence later this week.

When open, the tunnel road will be tolled at rates equivalent to other toll routes with a car rate of around €1.90 and lorries at approximately €4.50.

As well as cutting travel times between the south and south-west to the west and north-west, it is also expected to boost business in the mid-west and help attract more travel business to Shannon.

A spokesman for the National Roads Authority said: "This project is a catalyst for Limerick city and country, Shannon airport and Co Clare to continue their collective regional growth."

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/underwater-tunnel-highway-set-to-open-for-traffic-next-year-98040.html#ixzz0NLtSyTSO

1.90 seems reasonable to avoid stab city the traffic on Dock Road

mysterious

Stab city was created by blow in Dubliner's who never let Dublin who watch 6.1 news and reads the lines of bull****.They believe what is said only by the news.


In my experience anyone who rants about it, never actually visted Limerck. I live in Dublin 4 years. So its been well spotted.

Wild Bill

Lordy but that mysterious character is a bit of a....
Anyway, as I said months ago, I can't see the Stab City - Nenagh section of the M7 opening in 2009. Q1 2010 seems about right.

Tech3

Wild Bill wrote: »

Anyway, as I said months ago, I can't see the Stab City - Nenagh section of the M7 opening in 2009. Q1 2010 seems about right.

Your not related to The Word Is Bor in anyway are you?

Wild Bill

Never heard of the WIB. Is he a Limerick gangster?

spacetweek

Wild Bill wrote: »

I can't see the Limerick - Nenagh section of the M7 opening in 2009. Q1 2010 seems about right.

Why not? Isn't it nearly finished? God almighty it's taken them long enough.

mysterious

Wild Bill wrote: »

Never heard of the WIB. Is he a Limerick gangster?

Not funny. . .

Tech3

spacetweek wrote: »

Why not? Isn't it nearly finished? God almighty it's taken them long enough.

This scheme must win the prize for the most drawn out road construction project ever! :mad:

Chris_533976

Nope

http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/MeathCountyCouncil/N51NavanInnerReliefRoad/SchemeName,16474,en.html

Navan Inner Relief Road.

Over three years for 0.6km

BluntGuy

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Nope

http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/MeathCountyCouncil/N51NavanInnerReliefRoad/SchemeName,16474,en.html

Navan Inner Relief Road.

Over three years for 0.6km

Wow, why did it take that long?

JupiterKid

Probably built by direct County Council labour as many if not most road schemes were back then.

EDIT - I see it was about the N51 Athboy road link. That was inexcusable and someone should have been sacked over that.

The Navan "Relief" road took about 4 or 5 years to build a couple of kilometres of at grade S2. Sure, years before the ground was broken for the Navan RR there were signs proclaiming the coming of the "Navan Ring Road" in the very early 80s - I remember seeing these as a small kid.:rolleyes:

bacon&cabbage

tech2 wrote: »

This scheme must win the prize for the most drawn out road construction project ever! :mad:

- The M50 springs to mind

mysterious

I have my cam phone fixed so I promise I will upload pictures next week.


They have started the first layer of tarmac at Clash near Moneygall. The bridges are all complete some are open. There is a few remaining that have to be fully laid before it can be opened. The Moneygall interchange has a lot of work going on. Earthworks for the slips are fairly ongoing. The bridge is complete now.

Tech3

Some updates:

Nenagh-Limerick







and heres the state of Nenagh-Castletown

The Word Is Bor

mysterious wrote: »

They have started the first layer of tarmac at Clash near Moneygall.

Only very small rip of CBM.

mysterious wrote:

The bridges are all complete some are open. There is a few remaining that have to be fully laid before it can be opened.

The bridges are not all complete. Some haven't even started. There is one overbridge and one underbridge open between Nenagh and Moneygall. There are about three structures open between Moneygall and Borris-in-Ossary. Anything that is open is under roadworks control.

mysterious wrote:

The bridge is complete now.

The beam are in place at Moneygall but it is far from complete. If it were complete then there would be 40/50T dumpers running across it many times a day and there would be no need for the temporary traffic management on the N7.

Sorry to disappoint you chief.

Amtmann

L-N is looking great. N-C is taking its time in a big way. What have they accomplished in a year a half? The M8 M-F scheme was complete at that stage. Any reasons for the handy pace, Word is Bor?

The Word Is Bor

Furet wrote: »

L-N is looking great. N-C is taking its time in a big way. What have they accomplished in a year a half? The M8 M-F scheme was complete at that stage. Any reasons for the handy pace, Word is Bor?

M-F was what, 13km? Castletown-Nenagh is 36km. BSJV are not Roadbridge. Roadbridge would have been a lot more hands.

Amtmann

The Word Is Bor wrote: »

M-F was what, 13km? Castletown-Nenagh is 36km. BSJV are not Roadbridge. Roadbridge would have been a lot more hands.

Sixteen, but still. One would expect more progress based on almost all other schemes around the country. So it's a case of fewer hands and heavier work. Figures. Do you think it will be ready in time, or could it well slip to 2011?

The Word Is Bor

Furet wrote: »

Sixteen, but still. One would expect more progress based on almost all other schemes around the country. So it's a case of fewer hands and heavier work. Figures. Do you think it will be ready in time, or could it well slip to 2011?

If I gave my opinion hysterious would only attack me for "making rumours":cool:

It's down for Q4 2010 but I would think that it will push into 2011 late Q1.

Amtmann

The Word Is Bor wrote: »

If I gave my opinion hysterious would only attack me for "making rumours":cool:

It's down for Q4 2010 but I would think that it will push into 2011 late Q1.

Well I'm a man who appreciates a good 'rumour' every now and then, especially from someone with his ear to the ground. Cheers.

Tech3

The Word Is Bor wrote: »

M-F was what, 13km? Castletown-Nenagh is 36km. BSJV are not Roadbridge. Roadbridge would have been a lot more hands.

Have your sources predicted a completion date for Castletown-Nenagh? It looks like it might well slip into 2011.

The beam are in place at Moneygall but it is far from complete. If it were complete then there would be 40/50T dumpers running across it many times a day and there would be no need for the temporary traffic management on the N7.

I agree it needs alot more work to be done to it.

The bridges are not all complete. Some haven't even started. There is one overbridge and one underbridge open between Nenagh and Moneygall. There are about three structures open between Moneygall and Borris-in-Ossary. Anything that is open is under roadworks control.

On which road is the overbridge open to traffic?

The Word Is Bor

Head about 1km west from Moneygall. Take the second right turn past the 100kph speed limit sign. Head down there about 500m or so.

Tech3

I also went to the birdhill interchange yesterday via the link road. It is not far off completion the roundabouts and on ramps need more work done to them. Lights have been put in place.

Workers there pay no attention to other people driving in and having a look, there was a few people walking dogs and another car doing the same as me going through the two roundabouts and heading back out

Berty

I have it on good authority that the pile munchers have arrived onto the bog at Dalys Cross area to peel away the rest of the piles.

I will drive in that direction later this morning for a look for myself. Its easy the see from the local traffic bridge just before dalys cross on leaving Limerick.

Berty

As promised off I went this morning and accessed the site from the bridge just south of Dalys Cross and went for a gander at the bog section.

The piles have been munched down, rebar mesh has been placed down and some section have been filled in with concrete to provide the sub base for the aggregate sub base.

This picture is of a section awaiting shuttering and concrete


This is the most notherly section where the concrete meets the next section of rebars


This is a munched pile beneath the rebar


These are munched piles prior to rebar


These are the waste piles so its gives you an idea of how much piling the put down


Panaromic view of the most northerly section of concrete


Field of piles


I said I would throw in the concrete barrier