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Why some women dress as sluts on Halloween?

  • 01-11-2008 12:28am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭


    I don't get it. Women who lambast others for dressing in such a way 364 days of the year suddenly change their tune for one day of the year.

    What is going on in their mind? Why do they do it? Womens input please.

    :D

    p.s first post in Ladies lounge!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    any final requests?
    ready,aim FIRE!!!









    ahem, AH maybe??:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Nope. This is a genuine question aimed towards the ladies. I'm not trying to provoke - but if I have - who cares. AH has far too many retards.

    *edit* note the post says "some". I'm not generalising all women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I don't understand it either, when did dressing down like a trollop become fancy dress ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    fair enough OP.
    saw one of those earlier on tonight, she must've been only 13,14ish. she had the full christina aguilera 'dirty' look going on which,although appeals, at that age at around 5.45 in daylight hours was for me a bit much.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anything and everything is socially acceptable for the sake of Halloween.
    That is the point.
    Get with the programme!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I do understand and appericate that masked events, parties, balls and the like were often the excuse to misbehave and indulge in acts which an other wise moral person would not dare to do as themsleves but there is a considerable difference between that and wearing as little as possible and pretending it's a costume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    Not very fancy is it?


  • Moderators Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭ChewChew


    Could be worse. . . they could have 'dressed up' in their fekkin pyjama's!! :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I do understand and appericate that masked events, parties, balls and the like were often the excuse to misbehave and indulge in acts which an other wise moral person would not dare to do as themsleves but there is a considerable difference between that and wearing as little as possible and pretending it's a costume.


    Maybe people hate paying good money for something only to wear it once.
    So they invest in something playful that they will get use out of.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ChewChew wrote: »
    Could be worse. . . they could have 'dressed up' in their fekkin pyjama's!! :rolleyes:


    :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    so when little mary's finished trick or treating, big mary puts it on to go out and get laid??
    only asking???:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    Anything and everything is socially acceptable for the sake of Halloween.
    That is the point.
    Get with the programme!

    While that's your opinion, I think it's a load of ****e.
    There is no programme to follow. While anything is socially acceptable, what you do depends on your own social viewpoint. This is my issue. Why do women, who apparently have one standing the rest of the year, let it slide for Halloween?
    It just shows a poor moral backbone imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Gauge


    Smyth wrote: »
    While that's your opinion, I think it's a load of ****e.
    There is no programme to follow. While anything is socially acceptable, what you do depends on your own social viewpoint. This is my issue. Why do women, who apparently have one standing the rest of the year, let it slide for Halloween?
    It just shows a poor moral backbone imo.

    I think the question is, why on earth are you so riled up about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    It just saddens me to see so many women carrying themselves with so little grace, self respect and dignity.

    I mean, why wear something to a room full of people that you'd be ashamed to be seen in public in?

    Is there some sort of underlying want to look like a whore? Is it the attention? Does it make them feel good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    I think you might need to define precisely what you're talking about.

    I know people who've thrown a 'pimps and prostitutes' party, but I'm quite sure their acceptable costume definition wasn't, for instance, a pair hold-ups, a fur coat and nothing else.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Smyth wrote: »
    It just saddens me to see so many women carrying themselves with so little grace, self respect and dignity.

    I mean, why wear something to a room full of people that you'd be ashamed to be seen in public in?

    Is there some sort of underlying want to look like a whore? Is it the attention? Does it make them feel good?

    I think you have assigned a moral code that seems attractive to you, to some woman who you have an unrequited crush on.

    Honestly people don't wear things in public that make them uncomfortable.
    Or if they somehow manage to pull this feat off, it is tremendously clear from their body language that they are feeling awkward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    And why only at Halloween?


    Me, coat, door...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I think you have assigned a moral code that seems attractive to you, to some woman who you have an unrequited crush on.

    Are we just making things up now? If so, I'd hazard a guess that you yourself dress up in such manner, which is the reason you're taking this stance - some sort of justification. Wrong? Who cares! We like to make things up here. It's a fun game, but it's slightly retarded. :rolleyes:

    Yes, I have a moral code, and yes, I find it attractive in women..especially my girlfriend.

    What I'm trying to probe here is why it's done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Smyth wrote: »
    There is no programme to follow. While anything is socially acceptable, what you do depends on your own social viewpoint. This is my issue. Why do women, who apparently have one standing the rest of the year, let it slide for Halloween?
    It just shows a poor moral backbone imo.
    Seriously reading into things - "poor moral backbone"? Come on. If a girl dresses classily all year and then decides to wear a Playboy bunny outfit or whatever as her Halloween costume, that's exactly it - a one-off bit of fun. My non-slutty, self respecting, dignified friend is wearing that very thing tonight - for the laugh. Really, I don't think she's got poor moral backbone due to putting on a costume one night a year.
    Smyth wrote: »
    It just saddens me to see so many women carrying themselves with so little grace, self respect and dignity.

    I mean, why wear something to a room full of people that you'd be ashamed to be seen in public in?

    Is there some sort of underlying want to look like a whore? Is it the attention? Does it make them feel good?
    Why don't you dress up as a man on a high horse? Seriously, where are you getting the above? It comes across as kinda fanatical to me...
    Smyth wrote: »
    Are we just making things up now? If so, I'd hazard a guess that you yourself dress up in such manner, which is the reason you're taking this stance - some sort of justification. Wrong? Who cares! We like to make things up here. It's a fun game, but it's slightly retarded. :rolleyes:

    Yes, I have a moral code, and yes, I find it attractive in women..especially my girlfriend.

    What I'm trying to probe here is why it's done.
    For the laugh - not some sort of underlying issue. It's quite simple. Get over it. And maybe stop being so personal as highlighted in bold.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I prefer to spare all my moral outrage for murderers and people who park in the wrong space.
    My opinion of hemlines and people who own images of living creatures don't make the grade tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Smyth, everybody likes to dress up and have some fun at halloween because it affords them a chance to be somebody else for the night having a bit of harmless fun. If girls want to dress up as playboy bunnies so be it, the saying don't judge a book by it's cover springs to mind, just because they decide to wear a costume doesn't mean that all of a sudden they change from a respectable girl into a man eating slut*.

    *If only this were true:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    has to be said... as a female whose clothes are almost entirely made for males, hair colour generally black, and clothing style typical of that of most male moshers... one of my favourite costumes that ive done ahs been bleaching my hair, dying it blonde, and wearing pink, schlutty clothes.

    not trying to make any sort of statement... just thought it'd be a funny change, that'd get a reaction fromt eh peeps who knew me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Quite simply some women are hypocrites, they let society dictate their actions to the point that they become rather outspoken against the very things they want, perhaps out of fear of being suspect, perhaps out of bitterness. Halloween is the one night they can shrug off the shackles of society and do as they please. This is obviously my oppinion on it, would be better to go ask these ladies if you want an answer, but then who's to say they'd answer honestly.:rolleyes:

    As long as you're not being forced to see anything unpleasent (or to listen to whines about being cold because they're not wearing enough to keep them warm:p) who really cares.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I wouldn't even read that much into it, farohar. To me, it's simply a case of having a bit of fun and I find Smyth's attitude kinda misogynistic. "Women should cover themselves up and have self respect and it's saddening if they don't" etc. Please. Yeah it's tacky and undignified when it's what they always wear without a shred of irony.
    When it's done so in a humorous context once a year, it's a completely different story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    OP you got issues. Moral backbone will you ever get lost. People can do what they like without your 1950's moral outrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭KatCookie


    Has the OP never seen Mean Girls?
    "Halloween is the only day of the year when girls can dress as sluts and people cant say a word to them"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭rediguana


    When people put on a costume of any sort, they feel less inhibited. And that's a good feeling for most people. I'm guessing there's some fun to be had in dressing up sluttily, but maybe you can only get away with it at Halloween, so that's why there's a lot of it then.

    The more egregious of the costumes seem to be associated with the younger revellers, who can maybe carry it off better. I agree that few of them look comfortable though. They need to get that naggin into them first so that they can really relax.

    OP - you should stop lying to yourself and others. You LOVES it when the laydeez get down like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    The stripper gear you see girls going out in every weekend is awful... looks skanky.

    However, Halloween costumes such as dominatrix/bondage/burlesque gear look awesome and I would feel very sexy indeed in such a "get-up".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Smyth wrote: »
    I don't get it. Women who lambast others for dressing in such a way 364 days of the year suddenly change their tune for one day of the year.

    What is going on in their mind? Why do they do it? Womens input please.

    :D

    p.s first post in Ladies lounge!
    Isn't it great! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    we sort of had this discussion on another message board im on, one of the members was going halloween costume shopping, and could only find slutty stuff, slutty pirates, nurses, police, etc... pretty messed up, there does, it has to be said, seem to be a less variable option for women who want to purchase an outfit. why, just because it's made to fit females, does it have to be skimpy?

    i get that it can be/is fun to dress up as someone/thing completely different from your usual self for that one night a year. that's cool. but what about the zillions of people unhappy with their body shape? are they just supposed to put a sheet on their heads and be ghosts? c'mon! ive done the dress up thing one, maybe two halloweens. it's fun. but it also helped that i'd lost a heap of weight before halloween, so felt relatively comfortable after that.

    bleh, i duno where im going with this... last two years ive been a zombie (facepaint, shredded clothes, blood), and a homeless person (old clothes, sack on shoulder)... no requirement for fanciness of dress, but damned good costumes nonetheless. fun times. why does it have to be so difficult now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Dudess wrote: »
    I find Smyth's attitude kinda misogynistic. "Women should cover themselves up and have self respect and it's saddening if they don't" etc. Please. Yeah it's tacky and undignified when it's what they always wear without a shred of irony.
    When it's done so in a humorous context once a year, it's a completely different story.

    Even if it's done 365 days of the year, does it really matter, we all retain the right to look away if it really bothers us. An it harm none do as ye will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Yeah, it looks awful (the every other night of the year, non-dressing up, lapdancer outfits) but I wouldn't say it "saddens" me...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭~Marky~


    Last night I saw a girl wearing only edible underwear in a nightclub I was shocked and by the end of the night there was not much left :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    ~Marky~ wrote: »
    Last night I saw a girl wearing only edible underwear in a nightclub I was shocked and by the end of the night there was not much left :eek:
    Did you take a bite?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭~Marky~


    No my girlfriend was there with me so didnt get a chance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    How the **** do "morals" come into how one dresses anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    c'mon, you ahve to know the answer to that. comes close to sexuality, suggestiveness, and some other crap to do with selfrespect and sexuality again.

    to rephrase... perspective :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Dudess wrote: »
    How the **** do "morals" come into how one dresses anyway?

    No clothing with inverted crucifixes or nudey pics of kiddies maybe?:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    c'mon, you ahve to know the answer to that. comes close to sexuality, suggestiveness, and some other crap to do with selfrespect and sexuality again.
    Yeah but morals shouldn't come into sexuality either - unless it involves harming others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Dudess wrote: »
    How the **** do "morals" come into how one dresses anyway?
    Because they might tempt a man to have sexual relations with this woman outside of marraige? Evil woman!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah but morals shouldn't come into sexuality either - unless it involves harming others.


    checkin out dictionary.com...
    1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.
    2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.
    3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.
    4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.
    5. conforming to the rules of right conduct (opposed to immoral): a moral man.
    6. virtuous in sexual matters; chaste.
    7. of, pertaining to, or acting on the mind, feelings, will, or character: moral support.
    8. resting upon convincing grounds of probability; virtual: a moral certainty.
    –noun
    9. the moral teaching or practical lesson contained in a fable, tale, experience, etc.
    10. the embodiment or type of something.
    11. morals, principles or habits with respect to right or wrong conduct.

    basically... moral depends on the perspective... but things of a sexually suggestive nature are right in the line of fire for immorality.

    know what? you should come ot nz. great parties. one of the largest atheist counts in teh world, too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    The same reason people dress up like monsters and ghouls? To inspire fear and disgust?


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    To the op: they do it because they can. Because its an excuse to throw off the normal 'respectable' shackles and make friends with your frisky side. All the time we see those sexy images of women in the media. But its not normally acceptable in everyday life. So fancy dress can give women a chance to try it out in a safe and kind of acceptable way. Believe me if women didnt want to try it, I dont think they would. It takes courage to go out in your underwear. If you dont like it, you dress as a cowboy, zombie, andy pandy, whatever. Im not saying I agree fully, say with wearing edible undies in public, I think thats a step too far tbh, but thats how I understand why girls do it.

    You see men who love putting on a face full of makeup as part of a costume, who wouldnt dream of it in real life. It doesnt mean they are closet transvestites. Its escapism.

    If you object to women dressing scantily one day a year (for fun) I think it says more about your mindset and moral outlook than the witch in the skimpy mini.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Oryx wrote: »
    All the time we see those sexy images of women in the media.
    Yeah OP, do these offend you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    <3 escapism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Smyth wrote: »
    While that's your opinion, I think it's a load of ****e.
    There is no programme to follow. While anything is socially acceptable, what you do depends on your own social viewpoint. This is my issue. Why do women, who apparently have one standing the rest of the year, let it slide for Halloween?
    It just shows a poor moral backbone imo.

    My question for you is why do you care? It has nothing to do with you and it doesn't affect you. I find what you have said so far to be quite judgmental. I'm sure you are white as white OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I'm pretty personally conservative, but have no problem with others doing what they want. So I don't care about other girls dressing how they like- as long as they're happy then that's fine. I know I just personally wouldn't dress like that for a few reasons. I don't have the body for it so that pretty much puts a stop to anything revealing. I don't really like strangers, especially drunk strangers, especially at night, so I'd be uncomfortable with comments from guys and girls on the street.

    And the most important reason: "Sexy" costumes are so unimaginative and overdone, something truly original that requires a lot of thought and effort with involve immaculate attention to detail over your whole body so there shouldn't be much room for anything to be revealed.

    Last year I went to Halloween Wesley, sure there were a couple of girls in really revealing tiny clothes, but most people had made a genuine effort to have a cool costume, and the best girls' costumes were people like the girl who dressed as a crayola crayon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    we sort of had this discussion on another message board im on, one of the members was going halloween costume shopping, and could only find slutty stuff, slutty pirates, nurses, police, etc...

    I agree with that bit. Costumes that are available to women in shops are a load of old pants (not literally :)). Not all of us want to dress like slappers. At least it encourages some of us to make our own costumes though. Homemade are far more intersting than shop bought.

    It's the same with t-shirts and witty slogans. Ones for men are generally humerous, ones aimed at women usually say crap like 'slut' or 'I fancy your boyfriend and gave him a handjob' or some other such nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Susyblue


    Some women are only too happy to wear slutty outfits for halloween - its the one night they can dress as trampy as they want and not be b**ched about! I think its ridiculous that these girls cant just get a "proper" fun costume without the streets being over run on halloween with a million playboy bunnies! Its not only skanky but TOTALLY UNORIGINAL!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    This thread is crying out for pics. :pac:


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