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  • 09-10-2008 11:45AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭


    Greetings after some deliberation and of course inspiration from some of the "Fitness Logs" now known as "Training Logs" I have been reading over the last few months I have decided to get my own up and running. It will make a change from the sweat-covered notebook I currently have to refer too. I hope it will also give me encouragement and pick up tips from those who are more experienced than myself.

    As a quick introduction, I enjoy keeping fit and running was an obvious choice as I dont have time to commit to any organised team events. No weight to lose so thats a plus. My goal is to continue to improve my times over 10k,8k and 5k distances.

    Maybe I will focus on longer distances when I get some success at those distances and I wont rule out another go at Frank Duffy next year.

    As you will see my event participation has been sporadic to date, due to work and personal commitments.

    Jan 28 2007 - Raheny 5 Mile - 42:33
    July x 2007 - Irish Runner 5 Mile - 41:34
    Aug 16 2008 - Frank Duffy 10 Mile - 82:08
    Sep 28 2008 - Clondalkin 10k - 48:54

    however I have set a few markers which I will be trying to better over the coming months. I have no history in athletics so I suppose these times are my PBs.

    I have targetted the following events in the coming months.

    Dec 2008 Aware 10k, Jingle Bells 5k
    Jan 2009 West Of Ireland 10k
    Feb 2009 Raheny 5
    Mar 2009 St. Pats 5k
    April 2009 Bupa 10k

    My first goal is to get my 10k time to sub-45, 44:59 will do :D I am in the first cycle of the sub-45 10k program which can be found on the following link. This has added so much more focus to my training which to date had been more about just getting out and running.

    http://www.time-to-run.com/training/10k/sub45.htm

    I enjoy too many of the fitness logs on Boards to single out specific ones, keep up the good work.

    Looking forward to the feedback and hope you enjoy my contributions.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    Best of luck.... might race you in the Raheny 5 in feb.. ..your a bit ahead of me at the moment but we will see;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Look forward to reading your log, I find it helps with motivation, best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    stmochas
    welldone so far , trying to do sub 45 min also for 10k as one of my goals and also intend doing the very same plan as you :cool: , let me know how you get on with it , i feel i should start a training log but dont know if i am ready yet :p
    hope the training from now till raheny goes well :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    shels4ever wrote: »
    Best of luck.... might race you in the Raheny 5 in feb.. ..your a bit ahead of me at the moment but we will see;)

    Sounds interesting, lets see how close we are at the end of the year. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 8 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: 6x1k R60-90secs (4min 10 to 4min20)

    Achieved:

    Rep 1 (1k):
    Starting HR 119,Finish HR 170,Duration 4:44
    Rep 2 (1k):
    Starting HR 111,Finish HR 176,Duration 4:35
    Rep 3 (1k):
    Starting HR 126,Finish HR 181,Duration 4:35
    Rep 4 (1k):
    Starting HR 127,Finish HR 180,Duration 4:34
    Rep 5 (1k):
    Starting HR 133,Finish HR 180,Duration 4:32
    Rep 6 (1k):
    Starting HR 133,Finish HR 183,Duration 4:28

    Rest:90 secs
    Max HR 184

    So not quite there yet but I am hoping by the 3rd cycle of this program to be closer. The goal is to be running 4:30 reps with HR not breaking 180 by the end of this month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 9 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: easy day of 30min running

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:30:00
    Avg HR: 140
    Max HR: 146
    Distance: 4.01km

    Trying to keep HR in the 140's for easy days so at the moment they are mere jogs but I have found it is important to hold back in order to get the benefit from the quality sessions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 10 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: easy day of 60min running

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:59:28 (**Had to stop for 30 seconds to cross N3)
    Avg HR: 144
    Max HR: 152
    Distance: 8.44km

    Fastest 1k 6:41


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 11 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: Rest Day

    Feels like i should be doing something today buts it nice to get the rest ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭cfitz


    stmochtas wrote: »
    The goal is to be running 4:30 reps with HR not breaking 180 by the end of this month.

    Is there a reason why you are trying to keep your heart rate below a certain level for this session?

    (This is a genuine question. I don't have very much knowledge of target heart-rates etc and I've only really heard them discussed with regard to easy runs and tempos.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    cfitz wrote: »
    Is there a reason why you are trying to keep your heart rate below a certain level for this session?

    (This is a genuine question. I don't have very much knowledge of target heart-rates etc and I've only really heard them discussed with regard to easy runs and tempos.)

    Hi, No expert myself either. But just to be clear for this session I am not trying to keep my HR at a certain rate. This is just a perdiction for the HR required to achieve these times as my fitness improves. So in a months time I wont be flat out to achieve the same times which will mean that the sub-45 will seem closer. That's the theory anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭cfitz


    stmochtas wrote: »
    Hi, No expert myself either. But just to be clear for this session I am not trying to keep my HR at a certain rate. This is just a perdiction for the HR required to achieve these times as my fitness improves. So in a months time I wont be flat out to achieve the same times which will mean that the sub-45 will seem closer. That's the theory anyway.

    Is the plan to hold them at 4:30 once you reach that pace? If you do that then perhaps your heart-rate will start to drop. I don't think you are meant to spend too many weeks in the comfort zone on these sessions. If you keep pushing it or if you reduce recovery or increase reps then my guess is that your heart rate is going to go close to max on this session all the time (you'll hit 184+ every week). Maybe someone else here could explain it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    No I will hopefully get to 4:15 before the Aware 10k on Dec 6th which is the target for the sub-45 plan I am following and that will definitely leave me in the 180's. I will have another one of these 1k sessions this month towards the end where I will be around the 4:25-4:30 pace and hope to see these results. I am taking it slowly to start with, but any advice is welcome, thanks. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 12 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: 5K paced run - aim sub 22:30 5k

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:23:20 (Not quite the 4:30 pace I wanted but 4:40 pace so getting there) :)
    Avg HR: 178
    Max HR: 187
    Distance: 5km

    Fastest 1k 4:29


    Day 13 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1


    1Hr easy run

    Achieved:

    Duration: 1:00:50
    Avg HR: 145
    Max HR: 151
    Distance: 8.63km

    Fastest 1k 6:49

    Lovel Night tonight for running and was happy considering I was at a wedding yesterday so it was a late night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    You training seems to be going really well, I'm actually thinking of that race myself so might have a go, Will prob aim for around 47-48 not sure if i'll be able to go sub 45 like you by then.. but who know..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    shels4ever wrote: »
    You training seems to be going really well, I'm actually thinking of that race myself so might have a go, Will prob aim for around 47-48 not sure if i'll be able to go sub 45 like you by then.. but who know..

    Thanks. I reckon its a good one to aim for and then roll into the Jingle bells 5k the following week. Hopefully set 2 PBs before the new year then. ;)

    Sub-45 is the hope, however with a PB of 48+ I may have to be patient. A PB is on though :D

    You should get you log moved over from "fitness logs" to "training logs" by the admins and keep all those logs focussed on training specifically for running together as I enjoy reading your logs to see your progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 14 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: easy day of 30min running

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:30:00
    Avg HR: 140
    Max HR: 146
    Distance: 4.02km

    This week is an easy week which I need as I am feeling tired today. Normally at this point in the cycle this is race week so I am doing an 8k time-trial at the weekend to see how I go.

    Tonight is a short Fartlek session, I hope I have the energy for it :eek: and then the rest of the week is easy :D until the 8k trial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    stmochtas wrote: »
    Day 14 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1


    This week is an easy week which I need as I am feeling tired today. Normally at this point in the cycle this is race week so I am doing an 8k time-trial at the weekend to see how I go.

    Tonight is a short Fartlek session, I hope I have the energy for it :eek: and then the rest of the week is easy :D until the 8k trial.
    how have you find the program ?, i am thinking of starting the time to run sub 40 program , will be exciting to see howe the time trial goes at the weekend , good luck !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Hi, At the moment I am finding the program effective in that it is getting me running at a pace I would not have normally run at and because each cycle is only 3 weeks, I cant wait to compare times on my second cycle.

    Sub 40 program, yikes I wonder will I ever get there. One step at a time though and lets see if I get under 45.

    One of the main philosophies around these programs is to take your time and build-up as opposed to jump in too quickly and get an injury.

    Programs are designed to start on a Tuesday so that you can have every Friday as a rest day and missing a day means you cant go back as each day is scheduled to compliment the previous and the next.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    Seems like a good program,I'll be keeping an eye on your log. After christmas I will prob move to one someting like that. At the moment my program is mostly about building base mileage and endurance sessions. Hope to be in the 40 miles plus bracket by the end of the winter and then start the speed program.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 15 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: (start with 3 x 5min @ 10k pace with 1min easy Fartlek)
    10k Pace = 4:30 per Km
    Easy Pace = 7:30 per Km


    Achieved:

    1st 5 Mins @ 4:41
    2nd 5 Mins @ 4:41
    3rd 5 Mins @ 4:38
    Avg HR: 164
    Max HR: 184
    Distance: 5.25km

    Not quite there yet but in 3 weeks time I intend to do this one in the low 4:30's


    Day 16 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 1

    Target: Easy day of 40min running

    Achieved:

    Run Type: Threadmill
    Gradient: 0.5
    Duration: 0:40:00
    Avg HR: 138
    Max HR: 147
    Distance: 5.25km


    Did this one on the threadmill before work this morning, nice and gentle to loosen up the legs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    shels4ever wrote: »
    Seems like a good program,I'll be keeping an eye on your log. After christmas I will prob move to one someting like that. At the moment my program is mostly about building base mileage and endurance sessions. Hope to be in the 40 miles plus bracket by the end of the winter and then start the speed program.

    Just so you know the sub-45 program I am doing has me doing 40km a week in the first 2 weeks and then 30km in the third or race week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Firstly congratulations to all the Boards AC team on their truimph in the cross country this morning. :D

    I came to the end of my first cyle of the sub-45 program this morning. I was supposed to run an 8k time trail but only managed 4k as my right leg just did not feel right around the calf area so that was dissapointing :(, ran the 4k in 18:30 which was respectable enough but it never felt right. Going to rest until Tuesday and then start the second cycle of program after that.

    Fingers crossed my leg will be up to it. Physio visit may be needed otherwise. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Resting is hard :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Took the first 2 days of Cycle 2 off to insure that the injury which is now a very dull stiffness did not turn nasty.

    Tomorrow is a 2K session which I need to be ready for.

    Precisely 4x2k R90-2min 8min 50 (4.25 per k) T

    I am aiming to do 4:39 per k this time which takes me to approx sub 47 pace.

    The last rep nearly killed me last week so this one will be interesting. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Firstly best wishes to all those doing the marathon this weekend.

    Now on to my week

    Well Day 3 completed with considerable pain, the good pain though that tells you that you are working very hard not the pain of injury.

    Started with 5 min jog and stretches

    Rep 1 (2k):
    Starting HR 80,Finish HR 179,Duration 9:30
    Rep 2 (2k):
    Starting HR 120,Finish HR 18?,Duration 9:18 **HR on the blink but I was close to flat out.
    Rep 3 (2k):
    Starting HR 137,Finish HR 189,Duration 9:22
    Rep 4 (2k):
    Starting HR 137,Finish HR 189,Duration 9:46

    Rest Period between Reps : 120 secs
    Max HR 189

    Ended with 3 min jog/walk and stretches

    Session length 37:56

    Not quite the constant 9:18 per rep I had hope but compared to the last cycle 3 weeks ago there was a noticeable improvement :). Last time out I blew up on the last rep and finishe it 10:30 :rolleyes:.

    The aim is to get these reps to 8:50 so that the sub-45 is doable but I have loads of time and will be taking things step by step.

    Day 4 is Rest :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    stmochtas wrote: »
    Firstly best wishes to all those doing the marathon this weekend.

    Now on to my week

    Well Day 3 completed with considerable pain, the good pain though that tells you that you are working very hard not the pain of injury.

    Started with 5 min jog and stretches

    Rep 1 (2k):
    Starting HR 80,Finish HR 179,Duration 9:30
    Rep 2 (2k):
    Starting HR 120,Finish HR 18?,Duration 9:18 **HR on the blink but I was close to flat out.
    Rep 3 (2k):
    Starting HR 137,Finish HR 189,Duration 9:22
    Rep 4 (2k):
    Starting HR 137,Finish HR 189,Duration 9:46

    Rest Period between Reps : 120 secs
    Max HR 189

    Ended with 3 min jog/walk and stretches

    Session length 37:56

    Not quite the constant 9:18 per rep I had hope but compared to the last cycle 3 weeks ago there was a noticeable improvement :). Last time out I blew up on the last rep and finishe it 10:30 :rolleyes:.

    The aim is to get these reps to 8:50 so that the sub-45 is doable but I have loads of time and will be taking things step by step.

    Day 4 is Rest :).


    Nice session very hard indeed , your way ahead of me at that moment ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Thanks, according to the guys on the time-to-run site this is the session that tests your 10k progress and gives a good indicator of your possible time. It comes up in the program once every 3 weeks and it is one to dread.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 5 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: longest run - 'time on feet' up to 1Hr 30min (easy pace)

    Achieved:

    Run Type: Outdoors
    Duration: 1:19:04 ** Couldnt stay out any longer due to commitments :(
    Avg HR: 144
    Max HR: 151
    Distance: 10.43km


    Day 6 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: easy day of 30min running

    Achieved:

    Run Type: Outdoors
    Duration: 0:30:54
    Avg HR: 144
    Max HR: 151
    Distance: 4.42km

    Day 7 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: easy day of 30min running

    Achieved:

    Run Type: Outdoors
    Duration: 0:35:51
    Avg HR: 143
    Max HR: 153
    Distance: 5.23km


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 8 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: 6x1k R60-90secs (4min 10 to 4min20)

    Achieved: (Threadmill with Gradient)

    Rep 1 (1k):
    Starting HR 100,Finish HR 174,Duration 4:28
    Rep 2 (1k):
    Starting HR 95,Finish HR 179,Duration 4:28
    Rep 3 (1k):
    Starting HR 115,Finish HR 180,Duration 4:28
    Rep 4 (1k):
    Starting HR 115,Finish HR 181,Duration 4:28
    Rep 5 (1k):
    Starting HR 127,Finish HR 184,Duration 4:28
    Rep 6 (1k):
    Starting HR 127,Finish HR 185,Duration 4:24

    Rest:90 secs
    Max HR 185

    Nice Improvement :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭stmochtas


    Day 9 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: easy day of 30min running

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:30:34
    Avg HR: 140
    Max HR: 146
    Distance: 4.14km

    Day 10 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: easy day of 1hr running

    Achieved:

    Duration: 1:00:18
    Avg HR: 139
    Max HR: 150
    Distance: 8.34km


    Day 11 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Rest :D


    Day 12 - Time-To-Run Sub 45 Program - Cycle 2

    Target: 5K paced run - aim sub 22:30 5k

    Achieved:

    Achieved:

    Duration: 0:23:01 (Sub 23 next time out ;-))
    Avg HR: 176
    Max HR: 185
    Distance: 5km

    Additional 1.5k warm up and cool down.

    Breakdown of each km
    1k-4:26
    2k-4:41
    3k-4:44
    4k-4:44
    5k-4:26


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