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Supernatural Season 4 [**Spoilers**]

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  • 19-09-2008 7:54pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭


    Holy moley (pun intended), thats one hell of a season opener. It had everything I love about Supernatural - lots of laughs, great special effects, and excellent acting (lots of great standout scenes).

    On top of all that, a great new character in Casstiel, and a brilliant new story arc with lots of questions to be answered.
    The 2 reunion scenes were well acted, the demon conversation in the diner was great, and the standout scene at the end with Casstiel left me wanting more!

    And AC/DC.

    A winning combination. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,836 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Haven't seen an episode since the season 2 opener.. should really catch up! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Really great opening.
    loved how Bobby kept trying to kill Dean when he came back,and then throwing the Holy water in his face. The ipod scene was also great,as was Dean picking up the porn mag right after digging out of his own grave.

    Most of all,the best parts were Sam's new found control over whatever powers he has,with help from a new ruby.

    and of course the new character who brought Dean back from hell. An 'angel' of God. God has work for Dean! Now of course we wonder if this really is an angel from God or someone playing Dean for their own purposes but I think its about time they introduced the God angle since we have the demon and hell angle.

    Somehow I see it ending as a Dean vs Sam battle,Dean is apparently being led by an angel of God while at the moment Sam is being trained by a demon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭herobear


    tvnutz wrote: »
    Somehow I see it ending as a Dean vs Sam battle,Dean is apparently being led by an angel of God while at the moment Sam is being trained by a demon.

    That would be badass!
    Castiel = woah! really great character.
    I miss the old Ruby though :( still nice that they have the character around thougH. Nice to see Sam's powers storyline back too, they were kind of a wasted plot point last season

    I LOVE THIS SHOW! im literally giddy after just watching it


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    Yep, great season opener - loved it. This show just really took off with Season 3 (though 2 was building up nicely) and I'm just happy it got renewed for another season. Watched the 8th season opener of Smallville before this - what a snoozer! Supernatural really blows it out of the water...

    Though:
    not sure I like the new Ruby...


  • Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    This episode exceeded all expectations. I could not have asked for better - pure awesomeness.

    Also, I have to note
    not sure on the new Ruby either.

    A sub-forum request for Supernatural has been set up here. If interested, go add your support.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Sarn


    All I can say is...more. Great season premiere. I knew that particular aspect revealed at the end had to kick in at some point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Rsaeire


    Absolutely brilliant season opener; couldn't have asked for more! I think the direction the show is going in is exactly the right way it should be going.
    It's about time Sam stated using his powers too instead of wasting them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭herobear


    After thinking about it some more, i can kinda understand why they did what they did to
    Ruby
    .
    they wanted to keep Ruby's re-appearance as a surprise to both the viewers and Dean, im thinking it'll play a significant part this season.
    I'll still miss Katie Cassidy though, great actress!
    nice to see im not the only one who liked her, lets hope the show can work with the new actress(things arent looking good so far :( )

    edit: oh and also, did anyone else get an intense buffy deja vu with the opening scene?
    the hands coming outta the dirt :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    So another strong episode with a prominent role for Bobby once again - I just love the episodes he's in, he has some terrific lines and is an all round great character (
    Dean's reaction to the "panic" room: "Bobby, you're awesome". :)
    ). Not as strong an episode as the season premiere, but pretty good and interesting to see
    Meg and Agent Henricksen
    back and the boys facing their inner demons as well. Season 4 is off to a great start...


  • Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    J-blk wrote: »
    So another strong episode with a prominent role for Bobby once again - I just love the episodes he's in, he has some terrific lines and is an all round great character (
    Dean's reaction to the "panic" room: "Bobby, you're awesome". :)
    ). Not as strong an episode as the season premiere, but pretty good and interesting to see
    Meg and Agent Henricksen
    back and the boys facing their inner demons as well. Season 4 is off to a great start...

    I agree. Good episode. I think Bobby is an awesome character and it's always good to see him playing a prominent role throughout the episodes. The characters of Bobby, Dean and Sam all compliment each other very well.

    I was also happy to see the return of
    Castiel
    in this week's episode as was concerned they might have done some filler episodes before continuing the story from where episode one finished.

    So far, so good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    Am I the only one who felt slightly underwhelmed by this season's premiere?

    I thought the whole god thing was a bit meh, unless they aren't actually god but something/someone using the Winchester boys for their own purpose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Rsaeire


    I thought the 2nd episode started off part filler but then got much better once you realised where the story was going. I also think
    Castiel's
    character is brilliant and very well cast. They add that gravitas to the role that is definitely needed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    I thought the whole god thing was a bit meh, unless they aren't actually god but something/someone using the Winchester boys for their own purpose.

    I definitely think there's something deeper going on and things are not quite as they appear - the writers seem to be even dropping hints in this episode, with Dean's doubts and concerns. This show doesn't do just plain old good/evil struggles anyway and has more layers then that - this very episode was very much about shades of grey anyway,
    with the various hunters been tormented by those they could (or opted to) not save/got killed.

    BTW, what's the spoiler tag "etiquette" going to be in this thread? I'm using them because others before me have also used them, but the thread title is clearly spoiler tagged, so do we need to keep using them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I agree, J-blk... anything that has happened in past episodes is fair game. Anything you know or have read about future episodes (on spoilerfix for example) should be spoilered at all costs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Second ep not as good as the first,but still very good and interesting episode. Its an all out biblical war for the planet! Can't get much bigger than that! Angels vs Demons,God v The Devil. Castiel was saying he lost 6 brothers that week in battles. Lilith is trying to let loose the devil and clearly Dean must be important in stopping this. Sam on the other hand,I still am not sure where they are going with him.

    Also agree Bobby is a great character to have,but Im always afraid they will kill him off,there were at least 3 times in that episode i thought he might die.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    "I'm going to hell.... again."

    Supernatural is 3 for 3 this season... what a terrifc episode. Very clever way of filling in some backstory, some nice twists, and a great "To Be Continued..." at the end. Brilliant work by Mitch Pileggi too.

    Top stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    Amazing episode - that "Mom is a babe. I'm going to hell... again" line just cracked me up too. Great way to give us the backstory on the Winchesters though and tie everything from Seasons 1 and 2 into this one. Other great bits: Mitch Pileggi, Samuel and Deanna :), Dean suggesting to John that the Impala is the car for him, Dean asking if they had found anything on the web... of information :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭herobear


    Wow!

    this show continues to amaze me! absolutely flawless episode.
    seeing Mary as a hunter, Mary's parents,finally finding out why the YED came back that night and what he did to Sam :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    Last episode was great alright. It's nice to see it still going strong :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    "I'm going to hell...again" ...Well I guess I'll see Dean down there because I think Mary was absolutely gorgeous.

    I'm also going to agree with everything said about this season (the whole Dean vs Sam angle is really good), the Castiel character is brilliant [and very well acted too!] I'm not enjoying "new" Ruby, bring back Katie Cassidy, she was easier on the eye and looked more of a badass than a lost puppy the current Ruby has going on...

    It's already my fav show on Thursdays and if they keep this up I'll have to rearrange my top shows list :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Ye this is the only tv show so far this season that every episode has been top notch. Mitch Pileggi was great,the history of the Winchesters was also great. Hopefully it will continue because so far it has been the best tv show this season,IMO... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    4th episode, "Metamorphosis" was probably the weakest of the season so far, but still a solid entry. I love how they took the story of the guy that was turning into a monster and his struggle against his instincts as a parallel to what is happening to Sam. And it was Sam who had to take him down in the end, even though he was the one that believed the guy could fight his nature... Great season so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    yep weakest of the season so far but that in no way means it was actually a weak episode. it was in fact a very solid episode. i like the dark tone this season is taking. it has been brilliant so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭herobear


    needs more Castiel :P
    tvnutz wrote: »
    yep weakest of the season so far but that in no meanas it was actually a weak episode.

    pretty much


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    I liked it a lot :\

    Nice to have a straightish monster episode again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    This weeks episode was different. Shot in black and white, with some classic horror movie traits (great work with shadows, camera tricks, dramatic music, lots of dry ice) along with some great humour (Dean re-hymenated, Dracula on a Vespa, plywood prop doors).

    Good fun!

    Next week gets all serious again with the return of
    Lilith (although its probably an hallucination)
    . (Promo)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭takola


    Guys where are you all watching season 4?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    great episode.it has been so dark that this kind of episode was needed and when they do this kind of episode,they do it really well. Brilliantly shot and very funny as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    5 for 5! I just can't believe how good this season has been - indeed, nothing to do with the major story line, but so well done, loved the black & white look, the humor throughout, the old movie quotes, great stuff. This show does such standalone quirky episodes so well ("Tall Tales" comes to mind right off the bat) - once again, looking forward to next week :).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Another great episode. Every single episode this season has been great,you can't say that for any other show so far this season IMO. Any other shows I am watching have had at least one average or bad episode,some more than that. But Supernatural has been brilliant.

    I love how they balance humour and serious plot lines. They looked at how Dean was terrified of going back to hell,and we saw his fears for Sam,and what Sam might become. But at the same time we had some hilarious moments that made me laugh out loud several times. Dean screaming like a woman at the cat had me laughing for a few minutes straight.


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