Alcohol Bill 2008 Re: Opening Hours (merged)

Phier

From the Clubbing forum, i thought this post deserved more eyes on it.

early.house wrote: »

irish Niteclubs facing early closures .. were livin in a POLICE State ..




Irish Nightclubs are facing earlier closing. The Government are hoping to pass the Liquor Licensing Bill 2008 within the next 3 weeks. This means the latest a nightclub [ and late bar / theatre bar ] can open until is 2.30am 6 nites and 1am on Sundays. Local judges have of course imposed even earier closing in many towns / counties.

Raise your voice and have your opinion heard.

Log on to www.inia.ie and complete a short survey.

Pass on to your all of your friends.

Cheers
Irish Nightclub Industry Association

See http://www.giveusthenight.org for more information on what you can do/who you can contact.

Here's a list of FF TDs by constituency:

http://www.fiannafail.ie/tds.php

Usually you make an appointment through their website to talk to them
at their clinic, face-to-face is always better than an email.

Here's a recent report on the affects of the UKs 24-hour licensing,
the full 24-hours are used by very few premises and the roughly extra
hour opening time most places availed of hasn't affected public order
offenses at all. Probably because different places close at different
times unlike the ridiculous one time for all establishments our
government are proposing.

http://www.culture.gov.uk/reference_library/publications/3574.aspx

Business people like pretty graphs and stats, so maybe this will help
in drawing up a comparison, considering we have a similar drinking
culture to the english.

Dinter

That's going to be a shoe in.

They're getting rid of early houses too so as to stop crowds of rowdy pensioners drunkenly attacking people at 10am. :rolleyes:

Nanny state ftl.

RealEstateKing

Taxing booze, warnings, it's all bollocks, really.

THe only way to get the Irish to drink less is to change their attitude to booze: Drinkers will always find a way around stupid laws - buying crateloads of booze the day before Good Friday for example.

I recommend a nationwide campaign of posters featuring sexy foreign birds talking about how sad and crap Irish men are, trying to chat them up while half pissed.

kowloon

This is all just leading up to the red meat and aggressive pointing act of 2012.

faceman

C'mon tho people, there are a few positives:

* Did you ever have one of those nights out though where you were having a crap time but you had to stay out for your mates sake (he's trying to get lucky or something or you are the designated driver) and you are constantly clock watching? Well now you get to leave early?

* Maybe you are trying to get lucky and the longer the night, the more rounds of drink you have to buy before its time to bring her back to your place. But an early closing time, means spending less money and time before the action happens!!!

Davidius

Why anybody would be out at 2:30 in the morning is beyond me. :pac:
Don't most of you have to work in the morning?

jimmycrackcorm

at least the muggers get to go home earlier.
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Fringe

Davidius wrote: »

Why anybody would be out at 2:30 in the morning is beyond me. :pac:
Don't most of you have to work in the morning?

Sleep is for the weak.

judas101

i fully support this

Davidius

Boards Law #24:

Anytime any legislation is suggested that limits anything in anyway, at least 4 posters will use the term "nanny state" or a similar variant.

Baords Law #25:

At least 4 posters suggest the Government fix every problem and regulate everything in anytime topic to do with: drugs, sexism, anti-social behaviour, anything and so on.

Boards Law #26:
It's all Fianna Fáil's fault.

kowloon

<Something to do with Hitler and Nazis>

Zzippy

Davidius wrote: »

Boards Law #26:
It's all Fianna Fáil's fault.

But it is!

Mossy Monk

I have always wondered this so will ask. Why is Sundays always the close early day? What makes it so special?

JC 2K3

What a load of crap, they can't be for real...

Jay P

This is silly. Being in town til 4 o clock is funny. At this rate I wont be there past 3 :mad:

Keith186

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I have always wondered this so will ask. Why is Sundays always the close early day? What makes it so special?

Apparently everyone has work on Monday, probably means less people off work sick with a hangover and a more productive economy or there's probably some other reason.

Phier

I blame religion.

GhostInTheRuins

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I have always wondered this so will ask. Why is Sundays always the close early day? What makes it so special?

It's the sabbath of course! Get to bed early!

Stinger-bar

This country has completely lost the plot. They raise the tax alcohol and the prices shoot up...people take to drinking at home and then kicking the **** out of each other...no bouncers or police to keep an eye on you getting pissed at home.

They forget that some people work all weekend and may have a monday night off so sunday is their only chance to go out.

Night clubs in spain open til 6:30 am and there's not much problem there.

bars and clubs need to close at different times to keep drunken pedestrian traffic sparse.

dsmythy

I blame the parents...

I wouldn't be too worried about places having to close two hours earlier or whatever. Solution? Start drinking two hours earlier!

Davidius

Zzippy wrote: »

But it is!

You keep telling yourself that! :pac:

xOxSinéadxOx

dsmythy wrote: »

I blame the parents...

I wouldn't be too worried about places having to close two hours earlier or whatever. Solution? Start drinking two hours earlier!

i wouldn't be surprised if everyone started going out 2hrs earlier!:pac:

kowloon

There's been some research done on this subject.
I support the government to be honest, the facts back up a binge drinking culture in Ireland that is spiralling out of control.

Stinger-bar

kowloon wrote: »

There's been some research done on this subject.
I support the government to be honest, the facts back up a binge drinking culture in Ireland that is spiralling out of control.

lol very good

Smegball

Just wander round outside drunkenly for hours, sounds decent to me

xOxSinéadxOx

spend extra long in the chipper!:D

Phier

dsmythy wrote: »

I blame the parents...

I wouldn't be too worried about places having to close two hours earlier or whatever. Solution? Start drinking two hours earlier!

We shouldn't have to and the school of thought arguing against laws like this is that these restrictions only serve to make the public drink more/quicker in the time they have. Just look at Good Friday for an example where the Irish rebel against established tradition by making a collective embarassment of themselves.

This needn't be the case. Liberalisation of opening hours, different licenses for different premises, combined with a holistic approach to security indoors and out, instead of a blanket ban affecting everyone due to the acts of minorities is so far untested. Increasing the amount of time a place can stay open for after alcohol has stopped being served is a good way to guage the affects of change before anything drastic is done. Things like this require a change in the reasons why people drink and how much they drink, not the period of availability of that drink. That takes time, but the direction we're going in will only make that time even longer.

sullivano

The government is closing all late night clubs from July 3rd. This means that ALL CLUBS will have to close at 2:30am Monday to Saturday, and on Sundays ALL CLUBS will have to close at 1am. No exceptions.
You can register your protest by doing a short survey at

www.inia.ie

It may not succeed in changing anything, but it can't hurt. I'm not involved with INIA in any way but support their cause every wknd! I think these opening hours are scandalous...Do the survey!

aidan_walsh

Use our search!!!

'Ol Jack Chance

Nanny state ftw.

they should just let the pubs stay open all day and all night

t'would be a lot better rather then having every pub pushing every drunken oaf and his (yore) mother out onto the street at half two.

Davidius

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why the **** are you even out at 2:30am in the first place especially if you have work in the morning? :pac:

'Ol Jack Chance

Davidius wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why the **** are you even out at 2:30am in the first place especially if you have work in the morning? :pac:

well for me it would be cos they pay me the same wage regardless of whether i bust a lung working or spend all day lurking on boards

arse..biscuits

sullivano wrote: »

The government is closing all late night clubs from July 3rd. This means that ALL CLUBS will have to close at 2:30am Monday to Saturday, and on Sundays ALL CLUBS will have to close at 1am. No exceptions.
You can register your protest by doing a short survey at

www.inia.ie

It may not succeed in changing anything, but it can't hurt. I'm not involved with INIA in any way but support their cause every wknd! I think these opening hours are scandalous...Do the survey!

What time are night clubs open to now?

JC 2K3

Davidius wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why the **** are you even out at 2:30am in the first place especially if you have work in the morning? :pac:

Because it's fun.

Terry

Davidius wrote: »

Why anybody would be out at 2:30 in the morning is beyond me. :pac:
Don't most of you have to work in the morning?

Shift work.

Also, sometimes I work until 8-ish on a Friday or Saturday.
That means I miss out on two hours drinking time.

Stupid government.

Bring back Bertie. He liked a drink.

The Artist

As a bouncer that mean im going to lose at least 2 hours work god damn laws.
I joke gone to far stupid goverment:mad:

kowloon

Gardai, Nurses, Dockers, Engineers etc. etc.
They don't work 9 - 5.

lostexpectation

there survey question ar very leading but true

2. Nightclubs in Ireland should close*:
before 2am
2am
3am
4am
at a time dictated by consumer demand
3. Do you think the Government should introduce sequential closing for pub/bars and nightclubs ? [ Where pubs and late bars would close at a defined time and nightclubs would close at a later defined time, staggering the number of people leaving these premises throughout the night ]*:
Yes
No
4. The pending Bill imposes earlier closing times, and for the first time in over a decade, will close all late night venues [ late bars, nightclubs and theatre bars/venues ] at the same time.
Do you think these measures will :
cause a reduction in public order offences
cause an increase in public order offences
have no effect on public order offences
5. The pending Bill will close every nightclub and late night venue at 1am on Sundays.
This is :
good, it helps people get up for work on monday mornings.
not important, it doesn’t affect me.
not reflective of the amount of people who do shift work, who don’t have to work on Mondays, and Sunday is their night off.
6. People go to nightclubs to be entertained through music and dancing. Prior to 2003 nightclubs used to be allowed play music and entertain for 30 minutes after they stopped serving alcohol. This promotes a more gradual dispersal, and provides a positive distraction through listening to music and dancing.

Do you think that entertainment & dancing should be allowed continue in Nightclubs, after the serving of alcohol has stopped?*:
No
Yes

http://www.inia.ie/pages/have-your-say.php

sunday is often the best night to go clubbing

rossie1977

arse..biscuits wrote: »

What time are night clubs open to now?

down the country most clubs close at 2.00-2.30am

in dublin many clubs stay open till 3, 4 and in some cases later

Terry

lostexpectation wrote: »

sunday is often the best night to go clubbing

No way.
Thursday is.

Sunday is for day time drinking. All day.

Terry

Poll added.

The Artist

Terry wrote: »

No way.
Thursday is.

Sunday is for day time drinking. All day.

thursday clubbing!
what about work on friday morning (oh me head!)

galwayrush

OMG, This Goverment continues to manage to shock me with their gross stupidity. They want everyone to spill onto the Streets at the same time:eek:

raido9

Davidius wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why the **** are you even out at 2:30am in the first place especially if you have work in the morning? :pac:

We saw it the first time, you've made your feelings clear. Can you not understand some people might like to be out longer. Having the choice would be good, and you know its not compulsary to stay till the end of the night, you can leave a nightclub whatever time you want.

Terry

@ Alan Ford^
I don't work regular hours or days.
I work when there is work for me to do.
Therefore I can sometimes go out on a Thursday night and not worry about the following day.

Plenty of people in Leixlip work shifts in Intel and HP (something like 6,000 employees between them) , so there is always a good crowd.

Also, it's €3 a drink in the local hole on Thursdays.

humanji

I'm all for this. I'm tired of looking at my watch and realising I've missed the last night link. Nuts to the rest of you, the government is doing it for me and my sleep. Well done "The Man", keep grinding down the hippies!

raido9

humanji wrote: »

I'm all for this. I'm tired of looking at my watch and realising I've missed the last night link. Nuts to the rest of you, the government is doing it for me and my sleep. Well done "The Man", keep grinding down the hippies!

Again, you can leave the club when you like. Your attitude is very selfish.

Terry

raido9 wrote: »

Again, you can leave the club when you like. Your attitude is very selfish.

[insert sense of humour]

smellslikeshoes

Guess I'm not used to the later closing times in bigger towns, where I live the 3 places that open late are only open till 2am. I honestly think that 2 or 2.30 at the latest is totally acceptable. Thats plenty of time to get a few drinks in and have a good time.

Kiith

Bad idea in my opinion. I also work shift, and think the Sunday thing is a terrible idea. This isnt going to stop the retards looking for fights. Its just going to force them on the streets earlier. They'll still be stupidly drunk.

raido9

Terry wrote: »

[insert sense of humour]

Insert my dick into your mothers mouth!

Hows that for humour.


Check and indeed mate. :pac: