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Tell you what.....show everyone that ricidulous clip in loose change where he makes the comparison betwen a real demolition and the WTC "demolition". I laughed when I saw it since it bears NO RESEMBLANCE TO A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
If I remember correctly they were comparing the so called collapse of wtc 7 with conventional controlled demolitions, which is exactly the same.Also, dont cotrolled demolitions occur from the ground?? NOt from the top floors??
Most of the time, yes, but not always. Here is a youtube video :eek:of a top-down demolition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ1E2NPl-s8&eurl=http://www.911blogger.com/node/12743
Yes it really happened lads, not all youtube videos are dodgy or fake.
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Here, read a little more on the "sound of explosions" rubbish.Could transformers or other electrical equipment explain some of what the firemen saw and heard? What about an acre of concrete floor slamming into another? Would steel bolts snapping under tremendous tension make a pop or explosive sound? Assuming the towers weren't in the vacuum of space, we can be fairly safe to say the things I mentioned are good candidates to explain what the firemen heard. Even they think so...http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE0DF1031F937A15754C0A964958260
Assistant Fire Commissioner: "I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?”
But if you read on...
"I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever."
This is a quote taken out of context. Now the WHOLE QUOTE without the taking it out of context...I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_
Q.: Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?
A: No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too.
I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever.
WTC_GRAPHIC/Gregory_Stephen.txt
Here is a fireman saying it could have been "electrical explosions".
What a transformer explosion looks like...
http://www.stupidcollege.com/items/Electric-Transformer-Explosion
These buildings, as most office buildings in America had transformers and other high voltage electrical equipment.
Electrical Fire Hurts 6 at Trade CenterPublished: July 24, 1992
An air-conditioning transformer five stories below the World Trade Center caught fire after an explosion last night, the authorities said. Six people were injured, none of them seriously, but the 110-story twin towers did not have to be evacuated, the authorities said. The fire was first reported at 10:02 P.M. in a 13,000-volt transformer in the Trade Center's refrigeration plant, which provides air conditioning and ventilation for the complex, the Fire Department and the Port Authority said. The electrical fire, which went to three alarms, was brought under control at 11:24 P.M., said a Fire Department official, Lieutenant Erick Weekes.February 26, 1993. It started like most other days. A 4 A.M. wake up, coffee and a buttered roll while driving to work at the Manhattan Central Office. At 12:18 P.M., lunch was being served when we received a call via a street alarm box at the corner of West & Liberty Streets. At the same time Engine Company 10, whose quarters are across the street from the World Trade Center, called us via radio and reported a possible transformer vault explosion on West Street near the Trade Center.http://www.fdnewyork.com/wtc.asp
Transformer vault (also called manhole) explosions are fairly common place in Manhattan, especially during wet weather. They're highly visible and normally generate numerous telephone calls to the Central Office. We didn't think this one was going to be any different. When Engine 10 advised us by radio they had a working fire in the Trade Center, we thought the transformer vault was located within the basement of the complex. Not a routine event, but still,it's only a transformer vault we thought."The Trade Center was never designed for the amount of emergency power necessary for all those trading floors they have there," Calabro said. "Tenants would come in and need emergency power, and it was not available."http://september11.ceenews.com/ar/electric_towering_security_2/index.htm
To solve that problem, E-J Electric set four generators on the roof of Tower 5, which was nine stories, as opposed to the 110-story Towers 1 and 2. E-J then ran high-voltage feeder cable to Towers 1, 2, 4 and 5, installed three substations and distributed power to the tenants.
"We pulled 6,000 feet of high-voltage feeder cable from the roof of Tower 5, through the building, down through the concourse, through the parking garages and to the roof of Tower 1 and 2," Calabro said.
Current standard tenant power capacity is 6W up to 10W per usable square foot depending on location. The World Trade Center's electricity supply is segmented for greater reliability and safety. Eight dedicated 13,800-V feeders divide into 23 building substations. On-floor electrical distribution is routed via at least two electrical closets per floor, each with separate high- and low-voltage bus ducts for tenant-dedicated use."
This is a deceptive quote from a conspiracy theory site..."When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go...Now let's examine what he said in the context he said it. Here is the part conspiracy sites leave out..
...There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down. I stood there for a second in total awe, and then said, "What the F###?" I honestly thought it was Hollywood."“When we got to about 50 ft from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go, there was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.http://september11.ceenews.com/ar/electric_broadway_electrical_supplys/
He said "The way I see it, it had to be the rivets" but the conspiracy sites remove this important insight. They skipped over the sentence. There is only one reason to do something like that. To mislead the reader by removing all other possibilities for the sounds.
He also says he thinks the rivets caused the building to fall and not bombs. Interestingly, the NIST said most of the failures were at the bolts and connections.
Even bodies hitting the floor sounded like explosions.“The sight was amazing. I was just totally awestruck. I reported to the command post, showed my ID and asked if I could be of use. They said ‘Absolutely. Stand off on the side with the other medical people.’ I couldn’t fight any fires because I did not have that kind of gear with me, but would have done it if asked.The person saying it was an explosion also says bodies hitting the floor sound like explosions. I'm sure they do. I'm sure an acre of concrete floor crashing down onto another acre of concrete floor also sounds like an explosion.
“I decided to walk closer to the South Tower. I was about 100 ft from the South Tower looking up when the bodies started coming down. I counted 35. They were just piling up on the Marriott Marquis hotel. They were 10 to 15 thick piling up one after another. You could hear them hitting on the side streets. They were hitting cars, and there were lots of explosions.
“I have seen plenty of death in my life, and burned bodies and so forth, but this was incredible. As I was looking up, I saw a body coming down, hit a lamppost and explode like a paint ball. Its arms and legs got torn off and the head ripped off and bounced right by me.”
http://september11.ceenews.com/ar/
electric_broadway_electrical_supplys/
More here
The building was filled with electrical panels and cable feeding them. Some would be no different than a powerline...
It's not unreasonable to conclude, as at least one fireman did that the flashes might have been electrical in nature.
We may never know what exactly caused the flashes. But flashes alone do not mean explosives. You would see more than flashes if an explosive large enough to cut steel were set off. You would see ejecta coming from the same place as the flash.
Then their is William Rodriguez, a worker at the towers. He now says he heard explosions in the basement but that's not what he said before he became a media star and sued the government.William Rodriguez worked on the basement level of the north tower and was in the building when the first plane struck his building.Here he is describing something very different than an explosion. The change in his story came after he became a media star and plaintiff.
"We heard a loud rumble, then all of a sudden we heard another rumble like someone moving a whole lot of furniture," Rodriguez said. "And then the elevator opened and a man came into our office and all of his skin was off."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/new.york.terror/
Mark Roberts does an in-depth investigation into William's claims and history.
http://911stories.googlepages.com/home
As loud as the collapse was, it sounded nothing like an actual controlled demolition...
Conspiracy theorists take quotes out of context in order to sell the idea. An example of just how easy it is to take ear witness accounts out of context is below...
[Example video transcript:]Government Train Wreck: How government covers up freight train accidents…"The noise sounded like two freight trains going over a trestle right over your head; it was an ugly roar. My wife said the noise when the house went was like a giant pencil sharpener working.”Looks like someone had the same idea I did...
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/1953beecher/storiesFJ.php
[Did a fright train pass over their head? Was there a giant pencil sharpener really over there heads?]
“While I was in my kitchen I heard this terrible roar coming," she said. "It sounded like a freight train coming right down my road here”
"It looks like it's been bombed. There's just a lot of destruction, a lot of debris," said Michael Bartz, a state emergency official. "
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/09/02...nado/index.html
[Was it a bomb? Did a real freight train go down her road?]
"It indeed sounded like a freight train roaring past us, and when it was gone, we came out to find things a mess."
http://www.offenburger.com/farmarchive.asp?link=20040906
It came with "the roar of forty freight trains."
http://www.tornadochaser.com/UDALL/reports.htm
“It sounded like a freight train”.
http://www.disasternews.net/news/news.php?articleid=2954
“Before I reached the bottom of the stairs, I heard the sound of a roaring freight train”
[enter image of NOAA weather map an hour before the tornado touches down.]
As you can see, there was no tornado on that day, according to NOAA.
So why is the government covering up train derailments?
[enter sinister music]
In 2003 Amtrak was going bankrupt. They couldn't afford to rebuild the homes of Americans after a derailment.
ETC.. ETC..
http://loosetrains911.blogspot.com/
While the Titanic was sinking, passengers heard explosions in the ship. In this case, the "Official Story" would be wrong, using the same conspiracy theory logic. To this day, no one really knows what exactly caused the sound, only that it sounded like an explosion. Some say it was the steel snapping as the ship broke in two. Others say it was the hot steam engines hitting the cold water which exploded. Using Conspiracy Theory logic, it was blown up because witnesses characterized the sound as an "Explosion".
Does anyone else find it a little pathetic that the "extensive research" that many conspiracy theorists claim to have carried out does not even involve reading an entire quote??? They have time to sit around and conjure up elaborate theories in their head (with little or no evidence, I might add) but they cant even find the time to read a few quotes IN THEIR ENTIREITY??
I dont claim to know every single thing about 9/11 but I can at least read an entire quote.
It seems that often, they DELIBERATELY omit very important excerpts from the quotes the use. That effectively makes them liars via ommission.
SO, I'll ask the conspiracy theorists, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE QUOTES NOW???
YOU ACCUSE ME OF BURYING MY HEAD IN THE SAND WHEN YOU GUYS CAN NOT EVEN READ AN ENTIRE QUOTE??0 -
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