N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

marno21 · 08-07-2018 2:24pm

alaimacerc wrote: »

The section after Ballincollig, now N40, is MW-spec, but isn't classified and restricted as such (to the periodic ranting of some).

Plans afoot to redesignate the N40 as motorway. Would make sense to also redesignate N22 from Ovens to M40.

Macroom-Ballincollig will likely also be M22 but we don't have the ambition for that at present, even though we did in 1998

alaimacerc · 08-07-2018 3:16pm

marno21 wrote: »

Plans afoot to redesignate the N40 as motorway. Would make sense to also redesignate N22 from Ovens to M40.

I see that thread now. Very modest budget allocation. That because on the other hand, there's very little to do, or on the other, that there's absolutely no urgency to actually do the reclassification? Might make more sense when (and if) the "ring road" is an actual ring...

Macroom-Ballincollig will likely also be M22 but we don't have the ambition for that at present, even though we did in 1998

At first I couldn't even find it on the TII website, thought it must have rotten in the migration from NRA. But there's a scant page, noting that it's "suspended", no route or build info at all. So I'm not at all sure what's likely here!

marno21 · 08-07-2018 3:30pm

alaimacerc wrote: »

I see that thread now. Very modest budget allocation. That because on the other hand, there's very little to do, or on the other, that there's absolutely no urgency to actually do the reclassification? Might make more sense when (and if) the "ring road" is an actual ring...

Very modest allocation for 2018 because no work will likely be done on the ground in 2018, mostly work in an office. I'd expect the bulk of the work to be done in 2019, it's part of a demand management system for the M40 which will include signed diversionary routes in the event of sudden closures & VMS with journey times/diversion alerts. It'll make sense to be done in conjunction with Dunkettle upgrade and soon M28.

Actual ring? We'll be waiting a while for that. We might even win a football All Ireland by the time it's built

At first I couldn't even find it on the TII website, thought it must have rotten in the migration from NRA. But there's a scant page, noting that it's "suspended", no route or build info at all. So I'm not at all sure what's likely here!

It was prioritised in the National Road Needs Study 1998 for delivery between 2003 and 2008. A route was selected in 2002 but nothing has moved on it since, and given so much has changed in terms of regulatory policy and planning framework that route will have to be dumped and start from scratch.

As of now, the Government have indicated that no work will be done on it between now and 2027. So the earliest time it will have work done will be 29 years after it was prioritised for delivery within 10 years. Back then the N9 Kilkenny-Waterford was planned as single carriageway upgrades.. How things have changed

alaimacerc · 08-07-2018 3:42pm

marno21 wrote: »

I'd expect the bulk of the work to be done in 2019, it's part of a demand management system for the M40 which will include signed diversionary routes in the event of sudden closures & VMS with journey times/diversion alerts. It'll make sense to be done in conjunction with Dunkettle upgrade and soon M28.

Less than clear whether you're betting on 2020, 2021, or 2023, then!

It was prioritised in the National Road Needs Study 1998 for delivery between 2003 and 2008. A route was selected in 2002 but nothing has moved on it since, and given so much has changed in terms of regulatory policy and planning framework that route will have to be dumped and start from scratch.

Yeah. And practically a whole new generation of nimby's to be dealing with...

marno21 · 08-07-2018 3:56pm

alaimacerc wrote: »

Less than clear whether you're betting on 2020, 2021, or 2023, then!

Yeah. And practically a whole new generation of nimby's to be dealing with...

I would imagine the Macroom-Ovens section would be reasonably NIMBY proof given that the more contentious Macroom-Ballyvourney bypass got through planning.

By the time the Macroom-Ovens section goes to planning Peter Sweetnam might have given up on the objections.

marno21 · 13-07-2018 1:47am

Varadkar this week in the Dail:

Our biggest commitment to Macroom is making progress on the Macroom-Ballyvourney bypass which will go to construction next year or, at the very latest, the first part of 2020.

I trust what he says instead of the ignorant disinterested Minister for Transport.

Roadrunner99 · 13-07-2018 5:09pm

Is it today that the invitations to tender are sent out?

marno21 · 13-07-2018 5:11pm

Roadrunner99 wrote: »

Is it today that the invitations to tender are sent out?

It is indeed

Roadrunner99 · 13-07-2018 5:14pm

marno21 wrote: »

It is indeed

Thanks. Coming a bit closer now anyway.

alaimacerc · 13-07-2018 7:03pm

marno21 wrote: »

Varadkar this week in the Dail:

I trust what he says instead of the ignorant disinterested Minister for Transport.

ITYM the ignorant uninterested MoT.

marno21 · 15-07-2018 11:34pm

Aindrias Moynihan asked Shane Ross this week when the project will go to tender

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2018-07-11a.1271

Anyone want to drop into his office and catch him up?

marno21 · 20-07-2018 1:52am

Nice drone shot of where the new road will cross the old N22 east of Ballyvourney + an update on the tender process

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1019510836803457024

Aontachtoir · 20-07-2018 4:03am

marno21 wrote: »

Nice drone shot of where the new road will cross the old N22 east of Ballyvourney + an update on the tender process

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1019510836803457024

Neat. Very excited for this road. I regularly travel from Cork to Killarney, and this will make my journey so much more pleasant.

Roadrunner99 · 20-07-2018 8:14am

marno21 wrote: »

Nice drone shot of where the new road will cross the old N22 east of Ballyvourney + an update on the tender process

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1019510836803457024

Good to see its progressing away nicely... Would you expect a contractor to be appointed by late spring early summer next year?

Apogee · 07-08-2018 11:56pm

RTE News report on N22 and Kerry slug. Mentions that work is expected to start "towards the end of next year"

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1026905847631364096

Water John · 08-08-2018 9:56am

Great lobbying be the Healy Raes, to protect such an endangered species!!!

cillo2000 · 08-08-2018 7:32pm

Water John wrote: »

Great lobbying be the Healy Raes, to protect such an endangered species!!!

Eh? https://www.newstalk.com/We-must-put-the-people-before-the-slug

annfield1978 · 08-08-2018 7:48pm

4 Contractors pre qualified for the design & build tender competition

Kevwoody · 08-08-2018 8:20pm

annfield1978 wrote:

4 Contractors pre qualified for the design & build tender competition

Do you know who?

annfield1978 · 08-08-2018 8:35pm

Only one of them, five could have prequalified

marno21 · 08-08-2018 8:45pm

annfield1978 wrote: »

4 Contractors pre qualified for the design & build tender competition

Good stuff. Any word as to when the award is scheduled? I know we're a bit out yt

Pete_Cavan · 08-08-2018 9:21pm

Water John wrote: »

Great lobbying be the Healy Raes, to protect such an endangered species!!!

The only endangered species the Healy Reas are lobbying to protect is drink drivers!

Roadrunner99 · 09-08-2018 7:48am

annfield1978 wrote: »

Only one of them, five could have prequalified

How long would you say before we know which contractor gets awarded the tender for this project?

Cork Trucker · 09-08-2018 9:53am

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

The only endangered species the Healy Reas are lobbying to protect is drink drivers!

Now now, you can't be saying those kind of things around here unless you hold a drink/driving permit :pac:

mickmmc · 09-08-2018 11:28am

Maura Healy Rae will benefit from the new road - she teaches in the etb in Bandon, Co. Cork and drives from Kilgarvan.

Kevwoody · 09-08-2018 11:53am

mickmmc wrote:

Maura Healy Rae will benefit from the new road - she teaches in the etb in Bandon, Co. Cork and drives from Kilgarvan.

As will thousands of other people. I dont get this Healy Rae bashing at all, and I'm not even from Kerry.

marno21 · 09-08-2018 1:20pm

MOD:

Can we move on from the Healy Raes please and back to the topic at hand

Water John · 09-08-2018 1:38pm

Sorry, brought them up as a joke, originally.

marno21 · 09-08-2018 1:40pm

Water John wrote: »

Sorry, brought them up as a joke, originally.

No need to apologise, sometimes things can run beyond their original course

Kevwoody · 29-08-2018 12:49pm

Some fencing carried out recently on the approach to Ballyvourney from the Macroom side. You can make out the outline of where a roundabout will be.

Is this type of fencing taking over from the traditional 4 bar timber/chainlink fence? The entire Macroom bypass has been done with this, and I also notice Colas Roadbridge are replacing sections of timber fencing along the M18 with it too, with the addition of a strip of pvc along the top.

Edit: Can't add a photo from Mobile for some reason?

N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

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