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Trying to conceive/Planned parenthood/Assisted Reproduction Chat thread.
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So you are on Clomid with the trigger? I am going on a thing called gonadotrophin injections. Taken day 2-6 I think he said, and intensive monitoring on days 3, 5 , 7, 9. Well actually, intensive monitoring until the egg/s get to 19mm, then ovulation will be triggered.
He showed me a pen type needle (similar to diabetics). There is a dosage dial at the top, you turn it to desired dosage. The just stick it in your belly. What's all this mixing lark? Wow is right Lucyfur, I thought it was more straightforward than that.
Unfortunately Neyite I am not normal like you, I simply cannot wait 3 weeks to test (I'm already at 2.5 weeks as my luteal phase can be 16/17 days). I will be that saddo that tests out the trigger and anxiously awaits lines to reappear.
There's no point in denying it! 
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Detectiv I'm so sorry the appointment today didn't go as planned
Will they try you on the trigger shots for long before considering IVF? I really hope the new course of treatment will work for you - and soon!
As an aside, that's mad the doctor telling you you were a good patient. Sounds like he was only short of patting you on the head & giving you a lolly
Lol I know, he's a bit peculiar is my doc.
Did I tell you he showed me a photo of a healthy uterus and ovaries yesterday. Then he pulled out my surgery photo's from the op and said "and this is YOUR uterus". It was like something out of the movie Aliens, it was so gross, and I'm not grossed out easily. The ovaries and uterus weren't discernible AT ALL. The tubes and womb were fused together by scar tissue. It was fascinating to see al the scar tissue and adhesions etc. (for about a minute). Of course he explained all the 'disease' is gone now. He also showed me a cool pic of the HSG test and the dye that had travelled up the tubes and into the uterine cavity, that was pretty neat.
I think he showed me all of this because he knows I'm so inquisitive, I reckon I do his head in with all my questions. He probably wouldn't show this sort of stuff to most of his patients!0 -
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DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »So you are on Clomid with the trigger? I am going on a thing called gonadotrophin injections. Taken day 2-6 I think he said, and intensive monitoring on days 3, 5 , 7, 9. Well actually, intensive monitoring until the egg/s get to 19mm, then ovulation will be triggered.
He showed me a pen type needle (similar to diabetics). There is a dosage dial at the top, you turn it to desired dosage. The just stick it in your belly. What's all this mixing lark? Wow is right Lucyfur, I thought it was more straightforward than that.
Unfortunately Neyite I am not normal like you, I simply cannot wait 3 weeks to test (I'm already at 2.5 weeks as my luteal phase can be 16/17 days). I will be that saddo that tests out the trigger and anxiously awaits lines to reappear. There's no point in denying it!
That sounds like the Ovitrelle - Pregnyl and Ovitrelle have the same ingredient -gonatrophin, but the Ovitrelle comes in a pen type thing like insulin for diabetics - sounds like yours, though I think its the clomid that you take days 2-6 but I could be wrong. Our nurse told us that if we went to IVF that is what we would be put on, and advised us to register with our regular pharmacist for the drug payments scheme thing in case so I got the forms - you should too, then they will ensure stocks of it for you.
I knew writing about the extra time added to the TWW would be something that you would have difficulty with - I've seen your posts where you test early, but as long as you know the gonadtrophin could cause a positive thats enough.Ladies I have been part of this thread/forum for the past year ttc so I wanted to share my news with you first (well after telling dh
) - I got my BFP!!!
I'm going anon because some of my family/friends are on this forum & I don't want anyone else knowing so early.
I tested yesterday lunchtime on a cheapie and got the faintest of lines. So rushed to the chemist to get a clearblue idiot proof 'pregnant/not pregnant' digital test & to my utter disbelief it came up pregnant :O
I will say I must thank from the bottom of my boots Iguana for recommending MACA to me, as for a whole year of not a sausage happening - I got my bfp after one month on this supplement.
It didn't regulate my cycle, my ovulation wasn't until CD18. However come ovulation day & there was an abundance of CM & my libido was through the roof (unusual for me!) so I firmly believe it did the trick.
Sorry as this is TMI, but after 2 miscarriages I am nervous & find myself on constant knicker watch for spotting. Hopefully if all goes well and if this pregnancy is meant to be, then the nerves will die down as the weeks go on.
I hope you don't mind if I still lurk on here for a while. Part of it is because I'm still in disbelief after 1+ year of TTC that I finally have my BFP. But also because I've gotten to know a lot of y'all so well on this thread that I'd miss catching up with you all x
I truly hope mine wont be the only BFP here this month & that you will all get your bfp's very VERY soon.
Babydust to you all x x x
HOW THE F**K DID I MISS THIS!!!!!!!:D:D:D
(probably the anon posting delayed it a bit)
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Big Congrats, super-seekrit poster!!!!! Really curious now!
Wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy. Feel free to hang around here as long as you like. I know when I get my BFP that I will do the same - I've made friends here, and wont wanna leave for the pregnancy forum unless everyone else can too. I like Lucyfurs suggestion that we all meet up when we 'graduate' from this forum with out babies.0 -
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I think in all cases you get false positives when triggering because of the use of HCG to trigger. Once I'm aware of that I'm fine about it, I'll actually enjoy testing out the trigger, think I was a scientist in a past life! On Fertility Friend there's a forum dedicated to IUI/Artificial Stimulation and they all test out their triggers and post progression pics, I find it fascinating. It's really cool when you see the trigger fading out, tests going neg, and then for those that get pg they start to darken up again.
I'm really thinking of taking MACA now. 'Anon' (lol) poster tell us more. what dose did you take etc?
Oh ladies, by the way, I started getting ovulation twinges today. Cycle may not be bust after all, just my crazy lazy ovary taking her sweet feckin' time as usual 0 -
Ladies I have been part of this thread/forum for the past year ttc so I wanted to share my news with you first (well after telling dh) - I got my BFP!!!
I'm going anon because some of my family/friends are on this forum & I don't want anyone else knowing so early.
I tested yesterday lunchtime on a cheapie and got the faintest of lines. So rushed to the chemist to get a clearblue idiot proof 'pregnant/not pregnant' digital test & to my utter disbelief it came up pregnant :O
I will say I must thank from the bottom of my boots Iguana for recommending MACA to me, as for a whole year of not a sausage happening - I got my bfp after one month on this supplement.
It didn't regulate my cycle, my ovulation wasn't until CD18. However come ovulation day & there was an abundance of CM & my libido was through the roof (unusual for me!) so I firmly believe it did the trick.
Sorry as this is TMI, but after 2 miscarriages I am nervous & find myself on constant knicker watch for spotting. Hopefully if all goes well and if this pregnancy is meant to be, then the nerves will die down as the weeks go on.
I hope you don't mind if I still lurk on here for a while. Part of it is because I'm still in disbelief after 1+ year of TTC that I finally have my BFP. But also because I've gotten to know a lot of y'all so well on this thread that I'd miss catching up with you all x
I truly hope mine wont be the only BFP here this month & that you will all get your bfp's very VERY soon.
Babydust to you all x x x
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE TOOOOOOO:D:D:D:D:D:D
A bazillion congratulations and a bazillion more bags of sticky baby dust to you:D:D:D:D:D:D:D0 -
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Detective - I dont think we can take maca with clomid
As soon as I saw "Penguin Bars" post I went and got some from the local health food store. Went in to the pharmacist next door to check with her and she didnt know, told me to talk to the doc first, but I'm also on Parlodel so thats a third hormone med I'm taking so I better not chance it.
Though it does increast male libido, sperm quality and volume, so someone in the house might take it.0 -
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hahahaa my smear came back ''inconclusive''. Nurse rang me, I told her the situation, told her she can sing for my cells if I manage to get pregnant this month NO ONE is going poking up there. She laughed and wished me all the best. If I don't get pregnant, I'll go back for the repeat this month
Pmsl, I bet that's the first time she's heard that Fingers & toes crossed for you this month so you don't have to repeat the smear.
Wow fair play to you for starting the course & jacking in work! I hope you really enjoy the course
Detectiv - this might be completely different to your situation, but when I went for the ultrasound in January the consultant told me I had no dominant follicles that month/that I wasn't going to ovulate; he also said the lining of my uterus was very thin.
I attended a gynae a week or 2 later & she contradicted him by pointing out
1. I was 3 days into my period so was probably too early to see dominant follicles considering I normally ovulate cd17 on.
2. Of course my uterus lining would be thin, I was in the middle of my period & shedding lining!
I found it very interesting the way two professionals in the same field had such opposing views.
Fingers crossed the twinges are ovulation and not all is lost yet
Grawns, that's brill that your3 months are up, here's hoping you'll get your bfp very soon. 42 is the new 32, you're only a young one 0 -
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Thanks a mill for all the replies
If you're not sure I've a related but still anonymous post on my facebook (sad case that I am!)
This time last pregnancy I had told me parents, my sibling etc then it ended in a miss so I'm terrified to jinx things just in case.
I'm going to my GP Monday to see if he can get a referral for me to get an early scan at 8 weeks (the hospital did tell me to come back at 8 weeks on the next pregnancy after the loss). So please God if I get to the 8 week stage & all is looking well on the scan I'll reveal myself
About the MACA, this is the one I got.......
http://www.saraschoice.com/?page_id=17
I did a lot of reading on it before I got it, apparently its known as 'natures clomid', so I think that may possibly be why those taking clomid can not take it.
Though might be no harm checking with your gynae just in case?
Ok so here's my cycle;
AF July 12th, started taking MACA CD 11 3 capsules per day.
I wasn't testing with opk's for ovulation this month, but did have really thick egg white mucus CD 19.
Infuriatingly at the time, we couldn't get to do the deed til CD20, but had already covered that base by doing so CD 15+17; CD 20 twice.
I'm utterly convinced CD20 was the day of conception as my libido was extremely high (terrified the poor other half jumping him when he came home in the afternoon)
Sorry for the tmi, but had such a massive O that the spermies didn't come back out for a few days, so definitely gave them plenty of time to do their thing!
Applesock, Holland & Barret don't sell MACA alone, they sell 'horny goat weed' supplement which is a mix of goat weed + maca;
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=618&prodid=274&cid=205&sid=0
The info on the Sara's choice website is very interesting about the origins of maca.
I did another test this morning (5am, eek!) just to be sure to be sure & still pregnant! It's weird, I doesn't feel like I'm pregnant yet, I don't think it'll all feel official til I speak to my gp monday or maybe til I get the scan.
In the mean time, I'm still taking 1 Maca supplement a day. I'm scared not to take them in case they're the reason I'm pregnant & that stopping them might lead to problems.
Yet I'm also worried about taking supplements when I'm pregnant just in case.
I'll speak to my doc Monday & see what he says.
I had to have cookie dough to celebrate today, no penguins bars though 0 -
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I think you're dead right, I wouldn't give up on the cycle altogether.
Interestingly the Consultant I seen for the ultrasound was a man & the Gynae was a woman. Not sure if its relevant, but I do believe no one knows their body better than themselves. Especially when it comes to your cycle, hope that doesn't sound terribly sexist
Here's some interesting info I came across about Maca for those that wish to learn some more...
(Taken from[URL=]http://www.herbaled.org/Education/Articles/maca.html[/URL])MACA ROOT: Ancient Incan Herb Rediscovered by Modern Science
by Shayne Foley
In the Central Andean mountains of Peru, at 12,000-plus feet, Maca (Lepidium meyenii) is found growing where little else will. With this in mind, it somehow seems appropriate that this plant has long been recognized as a facilitator of reproduction in domestic animals and humans, promoting both sexual vitality and fertility. It is said to also improve general vitality, which is probably why some mistakenly call it ‘Peruvian Ginseng’ (although it is not related to true Ginseng).
In addition to being used as a highly nutritive vegetable crop (higher growth rates have been observed amongst mice fed diets supplemented with cooked Maca), the ethnomedical history of Maca use includes infertility, menopause, rheumatism, respiratory ailments and anemia.
Pharmacologists have provided knowledge of Maca’s high iron content as a logical explanation for its use in treating anemia. However, the constituents responsible for the sexually related benefits of Maca remain a mystery. Unique compounds, including those known as ‘macamides’ have been identified, but no single constituent or group of constituents has been shown to be the therapeutically active fraction of this biochemically rich plant.
One interesting phytochemical discovery is that Maca contains catechins, powerful antioxidant constituents that are also found in Green Tea (Camellia sinensis). Other Maca compounds have also been shown to have both antioxidant and anticancer activity. Specifically, Maca extract has been shown to degrade free radicals, prevent peroxynitrite induced-cell death, and protect cells against hydrogen peroxide by maintaining the intracellular production of ATP (the primary molecule that supplies energy to cells). With the knowledge that free radicals can damage human sperm cells, Maca’s antioxidant capacity may eventually prove to be an important factor in understanding the sexually related actions of the plant.
Human studies have yielded promising results and clearly support the use of Maca for enhancing sexual function and desire. Semen volume, total sperm count, and sperm motility have been shown to significantly increase with Maca use. Maca research on women has shown that graafian follicles (which release the female ovum at ovulation) were seen to increase in size when Maca was taken for two weeks.
In other human trials using Maca, no changes have been shown in hormone levels of healthy participants; luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone, prolactin, 17 hydroxy-progesterone, estradiol, and testosterone levels appear not to be influenced by taking Maca.
One study which assessed Maca’s ability to increase sexual desire showed self-reported improvement in healthy men after taking Maca for 8-12 weeks. Furthermore, antidepressant, antianxiety, and stress reduction benefits were also seen.
Animal trials have also shone light on Maca’s use as an aphrodisiac. One study demonstrated a significant increase in copulation duration in rats, while another showed improvement in a variety of parameters, including an increase in the number, frequency, and efficacy of sexual intercourse. The same rat study saw a decrease in the time to first sexual encounter and the recovery time between ejaculation and the next sexual encounter.
While research on Maca is only just beginning; it does appear to support Maca’s traditional use for improving sexual appetite and performance, fertility, and general well being.
Summary of Maca’s Actions:
• Antioxidant
• Nutritive tonic
• Enhances overall physical energy, stamina and endurance
• Sexual tonic for men and women
• Enhances sexual appetite
• Enhances erectile function
• Supports healthy menopause
• Increases quantity of semen and motility of sperm
• Stimulates graafian follicles which release female ovum
• Iron tonic for anemia
• Tonic for recovering alcoholics
I did a quick google out of curiosity, I don't think its recommended to take Clomid + Maca simultaneously as it may over stimulate the ovaries leading to too many follicles being ripened.
However on quite a few of the other TTC forums it lead me to, women seem to alternate, one month clomid: one month Maca.
May be some food for thought?
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Congrats Penguin Bars I'm so happy for you! Best of luck with your pregnancy although I Can't figure out your secret identity!
DFT I really hope IUI works hun! Do you have a time frame in mind before trying IVF? My fingers & toes are crossed!
Welcome back Grawns wishing you a speedy BFP!
Welcome all Newbies too
How's all of you lovely ladies? Hope you're having a great weekend!0 -
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Sorry DFT I'm lost with it! When do you start?
I'm good thanks, little bit of blood today so trying not to panic as this can happen.. Got a heartbeat check on Thurs and was shocked at how fast and loud it was only a week & a half till our scan and hopefully find the sex out hehe 0
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