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Trying to conceive/Planned parenthood/Assisted Reproduction Chat thread.

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Have you consulted with anyone about IVF yet? My advice would be to not make any decision before you talk through the procedure and your chances with an IVF specialist. As you said it's been 14 months since your last pregnancy and the thing with Endo is, is that it's progressive. So getting pregnant the times you did before is no guarantee that it will happen for your again. (I'm sorry I don't mean to be doomladen but I think you are right to be concerned about the second tube being blocked now.)

    I know Napro don't really 'approve' of IVF but is there anyway you could combine treatments yourself. Napro have their own specific advice on diet, supplementation and medication to help support the pregnancy of someone who has had endo related miscarriages. Maybe you could combine that info into your IVF treatment so you use IVF to get pregnant and then the advice that Napro give about supporting the pregnancy? And while you make your decision and wait to begin IVF treatment you could always keep charting and see if that shows up any new information from Napro in the meanwhile.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭barbiegirl


    Since yesterday Napro have been back on to us to roganise for me to have tube unblocking surgery.
    I am going to keep my Napro appointment and talk to them again, see what their plan is, whilst continuing to look at IVF. We have been referred to HARI but as yet no appointment. We'll see how it all goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭dublinlady


    barbiegirl wrote: »
    Since yesterday Napro have been back on to us to roganise for me to have tube unblocking surgery.
    I am going to keep my Napro appointment and talk to them again, see what their plan is, whilst continuing to look at IVF. We have been referred to HARI but as yet no appointment. We'll see how it all goes.

    Hopefully your appointments are soon barbiegirl so you can move forward. I know nothing about it but i think your right to keep your options open - when you have more info with real odds of success you can decide - as you say - you don't want to waste time with any doctor or clinic notions - you just want and deserve your baby. End of. By what ever means is quickest I'd imagine. Fingers crossed for you, x

    I still have no period or sign of it.. Thought after 22 weeks it'd be back. I know and appreciate how lucky I am to have A. Still have the same broodiness and feeling of need they I had before tho. Natures way I suppose. Anyway to be honest we so tired we rarely TTC...! Yet I still think its possible...reality check!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭bubbaloo


    Hi barbiegirl. I know I'm biased and I will always favour Napro but honestly there are other options sometimes. I know of someone who had secondary infertility. They discovered both her tubes were blocked and she had surgery to unblock them. A few months later she got her bfp and now has two gorgeous kids. Best of luck with your decision and your journey. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭barbiegirl


    Hi guys, has anyone here had robotic surgery for tubal occlusion or worked with a Dr. Alassam? I suppose I'm trying to get any info I can together before I meet Napro on the 29th and this is their suggested route at this point.
    The recovery rate is of particular interest as I recovered quite quickly from the laparoscopy, but have no more sick days left this year, so will have to use holidays, which are rare and precious. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭javagal


    Hi ladies!!

    Well it is exactly 37 weeks + 2 days since I found out I was 4 weeks preggers on here!! (41+2 now) and being induced tomorrow!!

    It's been an incredible and increasingly uncomfortable journey that I cannot wait for all of you to experience, meeting my baby girl tomorrow is giving me butterflies in my tummy like santa is coming!!

    Stay well, good luck to everyone here and when you feel your sick of trying, think how exciting it will be when you get your BFP's!!!

    I shall be back here as soon as my fiance lets me lol!


  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭Goodne


    The very best of luck to you tomorrow; you must be so excited / nervous. I hope you get a good night sleep tonight


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Hi ladies, just popped in to sprinkle some baby dust around on the one year anniversary of my BFP :-)
    I have my fingers crossed for each of you that 2012 is your year!
    Best wishes xxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭stickybean


    hey guys,

    just back from 2 and a half weeks holidays, so much new faces here I see.

    So much for being relaxed, I was never as stressed out (family arguments), anyway, did nothing on the TTC front (so no supplements / no ovulation predictive kits / no temping) just loads of baby dancing, I am 7 days late, did 2 tests both came back BFN's :mad:

    Don't think it was our month, but think the stress is causing me to be late. Wish AF would hurry up and come so we can start again.

    Javagal can't wait to hear how you got on x

    SB xx


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭meggysmom


    welcome back stickybean,sorry your having a rough time,did af show up,could be stress alright or late ovulation,do you temp too?7 days is quite the wait alright,i would be tearing my hair out!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭stickybean


    meggysmom wrote: »
    welcome back stickybean,sorry your having a rough time,did af show up,could be stress alright or late ovulation,do you temp too?7 days is quite the wait alright,i would be tearing my hair out!

    Thanks Meggysmon, still no sign of AF, going to test again in the morning if she still ins't here - 8 days late - AHHHH - but with traveling and stress I am thinking that is playing a factor.

    I had started tempting but we took this month of everything.

    How are you getting on? x


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭meggysmom


    yes test again in morn,you never know:)...getting on fine,kinda took this month off too,got so stressed out and just didn't feel like it all again,work is slow with other half at the mo so we have had to postpone going to see doc which i'm feeling down about.I just hope things improve soon,we are still in the running for this month nevertheless,i'm 9dpo and nothing feels any different to any other month so another 6 days to go.Good luck for the morning,i'll cross my fingers for you:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭javagal


    stickybean wrote: »
    hey guys,

    just back from 2 and a half weeks holidays, so much new faces here I see.

    So much for being relaxed, I was never as stressed out (family arguments), anyway, did nothing on the TTC front (so no supplements / no ovulation predictive kits / no temping) just loads of baby dancing, I am 7 days late, did 2 tests both came back BFN's :mad:

    Don't think it was our month, but think the stress is causing me to be late. Wish AF would hurry up and come so we can start again.

    Javagal can't wait to hear how you got on x

    SB xx

    Aww Sorry you had a crap week!!

    You never know tho!!!

    Well yep, I'm a Mammy to a beautiful 5 day old called Zoe.
    Lost a lot of blood during the birth so I ended up having 5 blood transfusions but Zoe is a healthy 9lb 10ozer and so chilled out,pleasant and lazy lol!!!

    Pic for y'all xx


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭meggysmom


    adorable javagirl and a great size bambino:)congrats:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭Goodne


    Oh Javagirl she is beautiful. Congratulations


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭cordub


    javagal wrote: »
    Aww Sorry you had a crap week!!

    You never know tho!!!

    Well yep, I'm a Mammy to a beautiful 5 day old called Zoe.
    Lost a lot of blood during the birth so I ended up having 5 blood transfusions but Zoe is a healthy 9lb 10ozer and so chilled out,pleasant and lazy lol!!!

    Pic for y'all xx
    WELL DONE you give so much hope to all those on here trying and thinking they will never get there, ENJOY your little girl and everyone else DONT GIVE UP xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭barbiegirl


    Javagirl she is just beautiful, congratulations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭stickybean


    Oh Javagirl, what an absolute cutie, big huge congrats x


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭stickybean


    meggysmom wrote: »
    yes test again in morn,you never know:)...getting on fine,kinda took this month off too,got so stressed out and just didn't feel like it all again,work is slow with other half at the mo so we have had to postpone going to see doc which i'm feeling down about.I just hope things improve soon,we are still in the running for this month nevertheless,i'm 9dpo and nothing feels any different to any other month so another 6 days to go.Good luck for the morning,i'll cross my fingers for you:)

    hey there tested this morning a very definite negative. 9 days late - cracking up here! Even if I do get AF now my cycle is all over the place. Going to book in and have a chat with the doctor soon.

    Good on you taking a break, sometimes it can all just get too much. I would love a few months of, I hate when AF comes each month - I just feel more and more disappointed each time


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭javagal


    thanks for the well wishes everyone!
    we are chuffed with her.

    Will pop back in soon and I bet I see loads of graduates!x


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    stickybean wrote: »
    meggysmom wrote: »
    yes test again in morn,you never know:)...getting on fine,kinda took this month off too,got so stressed out and just didn't feel like it all again,work is slow with other half at the mo so we have had to postpone going to see doc which i'm feeling down about.I just hope things improve soon,we are still in the running for this month nevertheless,i'm 9dpo and nothing feels any different to any other month so another 6 days to go.Good luck for the morning,i'll cross my fingers for you:)

    hey there tested this morning a very definite negative. 9 days late - cracking up here! Even if I do get AF now my cycle is all over the place. Going to book in and have a chat with the doctor soon.

    Good on you taking a break, sometimes it can all just get too much. I would love a few months of, I hate when AF comes each month - I just feel more and more disappointed each time

    Chin up to you both. I felt like that every month and it was like a weight off to forget about it all for a month. Just believe it will happen. Take care x


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭meggysmom


    stickybean i hope things improve for you,it is so frustrating,now you just want af to show so you can start again,have you ever had a long cycle like this?

    thanks yellowhen,how are you doing?I'm 11dpo today and my chart and temp are rising which is a new one for me,4 more days and if pattern continues i will test,we took a break this month but still got ovulation time judging on chart so it's still a waiting game,thanks for checking in with us:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭carolinespring


    Oh Java, Zoe is so beautiful. What i wouldn't give for a cuddle!! Enjoy every second of her xxx


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    meggysmom wrote: »
    stickybean i hope things improve for you,it is so frustrating,now you just want af to show so you can start again,have you ever had a long cycle like this?

    thanks yellowhen,how are you doing?I'm 11dpo today and my chart and temp are rising which is a new one for me,4 more days and if pattern continues i will test,we took a break this month but still got ovulation time judging on chart so it's still a waiting game,thanks for checking in with us:)

    Sounds ominous meggysmom, will keep fingers crossed for you!

    Stickybean,it's a pain when your cycle becomes unpredictable. Hopefully it's just one small blip.

    I'm good, just 8 weeks now. Very tired and skin is awful...lots of pimples!! Hope to see you both on the other side soon!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Lemon Squeezy


    Hi all. I'm a long-time lurker in this forum, and I thought now would be a good time to introduce myself. :)

    My partner and I have been considering starting a family for some time now, and have finally decided that the time is right. :)

    We were using condoms as contraception until now, but haven't used them since my last period, which started on 11th July. I have been tracking my periods recently, and it's usually a 30 day cycle. From what I have read online, my most fertile dates are from the 24th to the 28th of this month. We've had sex at least once a day the last few days, and will go again tomorrow just for luck! :P Actually, we've had sex most days this month since my period ended - it is such a novelty for both of us to do it without condoms, neither of us had ever done it without them before, and we're loving it! :cool:

    We're saying to each other that we don't expect to get pregnant straight away - we will just enjoy ourselves until after Christmas, and then perhaps in the new year we will start faffing about with ovulation tests and the like. If I get pregnant before then, fantastic. But if not, we'll try not to worry.

    I can't help thinking, though - imagine if I got pregnant this very first month trying! It's all very exciting. I've never even done a pregnancy test before, but I bought one in Boots on the way home from work today, to have in the house, just in case my period is late. I arrived home to find my partner had done the very same thing! :o

    I'm sure I'll be posting here plenty over the next while.

    Best of luck to all of you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    We're trying for our second at the moment. We stopped using contraception in December but my periods were still all over the place after having my son. I don't think I ovulated for a couple of months, my luteal phase was too short for another couple and even though we were enthusiastic we weren't having sex at the right time.

    I've been taking evening primrose oil, omega 3 and vitamin b complex supplements for the past few months so my cycle is more regular and my luteal phase is now usually 10-11 days. I'm charting my body temp and using opks so I know when I ovulate etc.

    We've been having sex at the correct times for the past three cycles without success. I went to my gp yesterday and asked her to take my day 3 bloods. I explained that we got pregnant on our first month with our son and it's taking longer this time so at 38 I want to know asap if I've got hormonal imbalances etc. I've to go back on day 20 for the next bloods. She was very supportive and didn't fob me off or tell me to let nature take its course etc.

    It's strange to think we might have fertility problems because it was so effortless the first time around. I've spent so much time wondering how we'd fit 2 kids into our small apartment so it's ironic how life can give you a wake up call. I've kind of decided that if we have fertility issues I'd consider napro treatment but not ivf because we just couldn't afford it. Also we've got one beautiful son and I don't want to spend my energy wishing for another baby when we should be concentrating our energy on the child we have. Having said that I'd always feel sad if we couldn't give him a sibling but I'd prefer to enjoy my life as it is rather than wishing for something we can't have.

    All our friends who had their first kids after us are pregnant on their second and it hurts a little. I even find myself wanting to avoid meeting them because they automatically ask if we've any updates. Of course I'm jumping the gun a bit because we don't know there's a problem but it makes me much more aware of how painful it must be for women (and men) who desperately want a child and can't have one. At least we have our son who is the light of our lives.

    It's great to be able to articulate this somewhere as I've kept most of it bottled up inside. My husband is supportive but I don't want to offload all this on him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭carolinespring


    it's hard to believe that it will be 10 years next month that our first child should have been due.......

    10 years on we are still here and without a much wanted baby after so many m/c's that we are well in double figure. No reason as to why, we are just one of those few couple with no answer. I will be 40 this year so no chance of the 2 or 3 kids we wanted, but thats ok. Will settle for one healthy child. When we fell first time, first month it all seemed so easy. 10 years on and so much heartbreak I am proud that we are still standing and still very much in love. Standing shoulder to shoulder, supporting each other, best friends.

    Anyway on the whole we are coping and doing well. We are going to give it one last try later this year. If its not to be then we will move on to another option to have a child in our life.

    We still think of names and chat about "our" child the whole time. I/we have to believe that one way or another it will happen. Some days I feel it never ill and I am so glad to now have a very dear friend I made here on this thread to keep me positive and hopefully I do the same for her.

    Odd that out of all the m/c's only 4 dates stick in my mind. the first due date 25th Aug 2002, 25th july 2005, 31 Dec 2008 (that was a date I lost a baby and I remember feeling so glad it didn't happen on the 1st Jan as it was going to be a new year...odd) and the last due date 8th Oct 2011. The rest of th dates I just seem to have blocked out. I am sure as it is so painful?

    This is not meant to be a sad post, i am not feeling sad, just remembering and feeling hopeful for the future.

    it's crazy to think I could now be planning a 10th birthday party if all had gone to plan.........


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭dublinlady


    Caroline I know I've said it before but I'm so sorry your having such a sh1t time of it :( 10 yrs is cruel to endure. You and your husbands love must be the driving force behind both of your incredible strength. That's an amazing thing. You have each other and you WILL be the best most lOving mum and dad that have ever been. Your time will come - whatever path life takes you. You are already a mum, x


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭meggysmom


    hello girls,an update BFP this morning at 13 dpo,cannot believe it,chart has been telling for the last couple of days with high temps but the glaring positive convinced me.It has been a hard road,this is our 19th month ttc #2.5 cycles since lap and dye revealed endo and cysts and glued ovary.We are just thrilled and feel blessed,we are hoping for a stickybean to complete our family.Reading some recent stories in the last few days has put things into prospective for me.We are very lucky and my heart goes out to anyone struggling with fertility.I wish you all the best wishes for the future and thank you all for helping me keep my sanity:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    To caroline, that was a lovely honest post. No-one can begin to understand how you feel so I wont even try. I am always amazed at your kindness to other people on these forums and how you just seem to have an incredible amount of get up and go in you. I dont pray much so I can promise to hope against hope that things will work out for you some day. x

    To messgysmom, I'm so thrilled for you!


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