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Berite and the boys get pay rise!!

  • 25-10-2007 3:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    Taoiseach to receive €38k pay rise
    Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:27
    The Taoiseach is set to receive a pay rise of €38,000 a year, which will bring his annual salary to €310,000.

    The pay increase is under the terms of a pay review for senior public servants.

    The Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Sector compares pay in the private sector with incomes of around 1600 senior staff including politicians, the judiciary, top gardaí and heads of Government departments and state agencies.

    The average award for these staff will be 7.3% and the total cost of the increases will be around €16m a year.

    In general, the most senior staff have received the highest increases to take account of their heavier responsibilities.

    The increases could have been even higher, but the review body discounted salaries by 15% to allow for the value of guaranteed state pensions.

    However, a significant number of staff have been awarded no increase at all.

    Politicians are among the big winners in this top pay review.

    The Taoiseach gets a 14% pay rise, while the Tanaiste's pay packet increases by 15.5% to €270,000.

    Ministers salaries are up 12% to €240,000 and Junior ministers also rise by 12% to €165,000.

    These earnings include their TD salaries

    Judges got the highest average increase at 18 because the review factored in high barrister salaries, which may influence suitable people in joining the judiciary.

    A number of people are earning more than the new going rate for the job.

    HSE Chief Executive Brendan Drumm is earning around €360,000 plus bonuses of up to 25%.

    The Review Body says the going rate for his job should be €303,000.

    However, it is understood that the Prof Drumm has additional duties in setting up the new body from scratch.

    Also earning more than the recommended rate is the Commissioner for Aviation Regulation who is currently on €203,379.

    The recommended salary in future will be €185,000.

    Other recipients of large pay increases: the Dublin City Manager will receive an increase of 36.2%, the head of the IDA will get a 22% rise, the head of Teagasc's pay packet will jump by 29%, the DPPs annual wage is to go up by 27%, and both the Garda Ombudsmen and Garda Commissioner's annual salaries will rise by 15%.


    However a number of grades received no pay award at all - including 150 Local Authority Directors of Services, and 32 HSE Local Health Office Managers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    if i had the power to do so id be giving myself pay rises aswell.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    Fair play, he deserves it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I thought the private sector increase this year was about 4%?

    **** you Bertie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    One of the US Constitution's amendments requires that there be a round of elections before any pay rise that politicians vote for themselves can actually be enacted, so they can't just increase as they like but have to justify it by getting re-elected as well.

    Any chance of something similar being passed here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭CTU_Agent


    I have the power.

    Prendy - 32.5% increase..

    Dont mention it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    garthv wrote: »
    Fair play, he deserves it.

    +1 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    This is DISGUSTING!! How can they justify giving THEMSELFS pay raises with people being turned away from hospitals because of a lack of funding.

    Who's cock do you have to suck to get a 36% pay increase. It's disgusting.. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Outer Bongolia


    Wasn't Steve Staunton getting €400,000? That kind of puts it in perspective. And Gerry Ryan must be getting more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    ScumLord wrote: »
    This is DISGUSTING!! How can they justify giving THEMSELFS pay raises with people being turned away from hospitals because of a lack of funding.

    Who's cock do you have to suck to get a 36% pay increase. It's disgusting.. :mad:

    even more so is that berties rise i more than the average industiral wage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    garthv wrote: »
    Fair play, he deserves it.

    Hahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha....Ahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha..

    That is without doubt the dumbest post on the entire interweb.. I hope you were being sarcastic..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭blah


    According to Wikipedia*
    President of USA $400,000 = €281,452
    Prime Minister of UK £187,611 = €269,324


    *not necessarily reliable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    CTU_Agent I have the power.

    Prendy - 32.5% increase..

    Dont mention it.


    cheers!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    Didn't FF warn us that our economy is on the way down? Yet they get pay rises?

    GG FF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    This is disgusting. What has that **** done to deserve this payrise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭CTU_Agent


    give them all the average industrial wage see how long they last.....muppets...how can they justify that and still face the people..

    Annoys me so much:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Orange69 wrote: »
    Hahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha....Ahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha..

    That is without doubt the dumbest post on the entire interweb.. I hope you were being sarcastic..

    Hey Orange69, out of curiosity do you think any other political party in Ireland would be doing a super job if they were elected?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    Hey Orange69, out of curiosity do you think any other political party in Ireland would be doing a super job if they were elected?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    blah wrote: »
    According to Wikipedia*
    President of USA $400,000 = €281,452
    Prime Minister of UK £187,611 = €269,324


    *not necessarily reliable
    Berties the highest payed Prime minister in the WORLD!
    Thank **** it's nearly five, I need a spliff before I kill someone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Orange69 wrote: »
    Yes.

    Who would be your political party of choice? Again, just curious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Berties the highest payed Prime minister in the WORLD!
    Thank **** it's nearly five, I need a spliff before I kill someone

    And he is doing such a great job!:rolleyes:

    Can i join you on that spliff?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    In spirit you can, in spirit. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Please, please, please let my flatmate have some more of that grass she had yesterday. I need it after discovering we give that buffoon more money than the others...

    nyeh, **** him, my salary's increased 24% since this time last year! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Bertie should wear a military uniform and festoon his chest with medals like all banana republic leaders .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Berties the highest payed Prime minister in the WORLD!
    Thank **** it's nearly five, I need a spliff before I kill someone

    Defo the highest paid in at least the EU now, absolutely unreal.

    He was the 2nd highest paid before this and now earns substantially more than the UK Prime Minister and German Chancellor, maybe 50k more pa.

    Thing is we are a tiny country and they are huge countries with huge economies, is he worth it though?

    OP, maybe put a poll up asking is 310k pay packet for Bertie worth it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Cnuts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Actually, it's an interesting point that many posters have the reaction to just go have a joint after hearing this. Are Irish people really *that* apathetic? If so, it kinda explains why he's still in power doesn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    One of Carlows finest elected TD s commented on the radio that he knew 2 builders that earned more than him .(100 k)They work for a living what does he do .The arrogance .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Revolution anybody?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Actually, it's an interesting point that many posters have the reaction to just go have a joint after hearing this. Are Irish people really *that* apathetic? If so, it kinda explains why he's still in power doesn't it?

    I plan to emigrate when im done university.. Ill leave bertie and his peanut gallery to the morons who voted for them..


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well if you don't like it....why don't you just kill yourselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    Well if you don't like it....why don't you just kill yourselves.

    Didnt "Bertie" say something along those lines to people who were "talking down" the economy :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    orestes wrote: »
    Revolution anybody?

    I've been saying this for a long time.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Ahhh That's better you have to love working in a small town where it obly takes two minutes to get home. :D
    One of Carlows finest elected TD s commented on the radio that he knew 2 builders that earned more than him .(100 k)They work for a living what does he do .The arrogance .
    Lol. And he could only find two.
    Actually, it's an interesting point that many posters have the reaction to just go have a joint after hearing this. Are Irish people really *that* apathetic? If so, it kinda explains why he's still in power doesn't it?
    I'm not being apathic but what more can I do on a thursday evening other than have a spliff.

    I was thinking of running for local elections but I'd say no one would vote for me. we should have more different people going up for elections.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amira Faint Sushi


    Congratualtions on having a tribunal, bertie, and congratualtions on the state of the healthcare system with a ton of docs and nurses getting fired everywhere. Have a pay rise.


    :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭HelterSkelter


    Stereonick wrote: »
    Wasn't Steve Staunton getting €400,000? That kind of puts it in perspective. And Gerry Ryan must be getting more
    Gordon Brown gets €268k


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭HelterSkelter


    Bertie has received more than 22 pay increases since 1997 when his salary was €133,000!!! Unbelieveable!!!

    This article is from 2005...
    http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/.../story6527.asp
    ...The Taoiseach's salary has increased from €133,000 in 1997 to just under €250,000 today – a rise of almost 88 per cent. In the same period, the average industrial wage has risen from €19,300 to just under €30,000, an increase of about 53 per cent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    layke wrote: »
    Didn't FF warn us that our economy is on the way down? Yet they get pay rises?

    GG FF

    not only that, but the ESRI has recommended that they increase taxes to fund this round of completely undeserved public pay rises...

    i'm really beginning to think that those in public service are nothing more than leeches on the economy. absolutely no way these rises can be justified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Didn't Eamon de Valera almost go bankrupt as the president of Ireland because he wouldn't take any pay raises. They don't make em like that anymore.


    Lets dig him up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    I thought Bertie relied on handouts and pals .What does he need a salary for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Bertie now earns more than Bush himself!
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/09/asia/singbox.php

    Bertie $443,000 (at todays exchange rate)
    Bush $440,000
    Brown $370,000
    Shinzo Abe $360,000
    Merkel $350,000


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    gurramok wrote: »
    is he worth it though?

    I think this answers your question:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Congratualtions on having a tribunal, bertie, and congratualtions on the state of the healthcare system with a ton of docs and nurses getting fired everywhere. Have a pay rise.


    Bertie thinks he is worth it .He has to put a bit away for the pension fund,the man of the people that he is .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Didn't Eamon de Valera almost go bankrupt as the president of Ireland because he wouldn't take any pay raises. They don't make em like that anymore.


    Lets dig him up.

    you are joking arent you? He was a shady character. He definitely wasnt short on money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭curiousxxx1


    Another bloody pay rise!! WTF and €38,000... wow how many people earn that a year :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    Jeez mehn, like i thought the Goverment coffers had over spent by billions this year how can they afford to take a pay rise while we pay more tax next year... Really unbelievable


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amira Faint Sushi


    Isn't there something we can do about this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 buckie


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Berties the highest payed Prime minister in the WORLD!
    Thank **** it's nearly five, I need a spliff before I kill someone

    while the poor tax payer will be told to tighten there belt come next month.
    i suppose at least now he has a bank account to lodge it in

    can he afford now to pay back some of the cash that was leant to him

    Brian cowen and mary harney defo need the extra cash the 2 of them fading away in front of us all
    Fat F**kers the lot of them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Outer Bongolia


    Gordon Brown gets €268k

    Still though... Gerry Ryan! €600,000!!

    This Man

    http://blogorrah.com/blogimages/200cocktail.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Isn't there something we can do about this?

    Shake our fists in his general direction and rant about him on the internet with lots of angry smiley faces, that'll show him. :mad::mad::mad:


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amira Faint Sushi


    Ruu wrote: »
    Shake our fists in his general direction and rant about him on the internet with lots of angry smiley faces, that'll show him. :mad::mad::mad:
    Seems like that's all anyone's going to do. Then in 2 months' time, noone's going to say a word beyond "ah sure you know bertie and arent taxes always too high".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Isn't there something we can do about this?

    Well, it was kindly timed post election so all those that voted him back in must feel a little bit cheated with economic downturn on the horizon.

    Only Bertie can reject it, he could take a leaf out of the Japanese prime minster but the gubberment don't take responisibity here!

    'Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe took a 30 percent pay cut when he came to office in September 2006 and lowered other top officials' pay by 10 percent.'
    http://rana.typepad.com/weblog/2007/03/the_internation.html


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