FE1 Exam Thread (Mod Warning: NO ADS)

boomtown84

Definitely!sure you could do 2 subjects now handy.

bob_lob_law

Did Equality and/or State Aid come up in the most recent sitting? Thanks.

farela

ananas wrote: »

I need advice from my fellow fe1-ers, I'm thinking about doing one exam in October, maybe Criminal, but I don't know if I'm cutting it fine to do the exam. What would you think, yay or nay?

Yes definatly possible. Last year I was away for the summer, home the 1st week in september and I started study for 2 exams, passed both while working full time, so its very doable!! Best of Luck

RebelScorned

bob_lob_law wrote: »

Did Equality and/or State Aid come up in the most recent sitting? Thanks.

state aid came up in march... have a feeling we'll be seeing it again in october tho...

RebelScorned

ananas wrote: »

I need advice from my fellow fe1-ers, I'm thinking about doing one exam in October, maybe Criminal, but I don't know if I'm cutting it fine to do the exam. What would you think, yay or nay?

criminal is very doable and straightforward, nice neat course, def one of the easiest subjects as long as u are good at issue spotting

hero82

i stayed in the ibis hotel last time and was pretty reasonable.i think it was 50 for bed and breakfast.its only about a 5/10 minute walk from the red cow!

Jkeena

Hi All, just a quick query to anyone sitting the Constitutional Exam in October and is doing the Independent Course who also may have sat it before. Just wondering is there much new material on the course that I need to be aware of, bit late in the day but considering doing the online course if it is the case that I may be missing a lot! Thanks

farela

Jkeena wrote: »

Hi All, just a quick query to anyone sitting the Constitutional Exam in October and is doing the Independent Course who also may have sat it before. Just wondering is there much new material on the course that I need to be aware of, bit late in the day but considering doing the online course if it is the case that I may be missing a lot! Thanks

I started the online course late and still found it excellent and passed. The online lectures are very good and they are on moodle so you can catch-up in your own time. Would recommend Independent course online!

Mr Nonar

Hey Guys,

Just wondering if anyone could offer me some advice. Taking my first 4 FE1s in October – Company, Equity, Property & Contract. However, I’m finding Contract the most difficult. Has anybody who passed Contract got any tips on good ways o approach the subject and importantly what topics could be left out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Orla FitzP

Hi there!

Could anyone who has passed EU help me out?
Im really struggling with it? alot is down to the fact that i dont actually like it or the lecturer - anyone whos been in this boat and got through it, how?? and also what they found the easiest/ toughest/ helpful!!

thanks

lablab

Orla FitzP wrote: »

Hi there!

Could anyone who has passed EU help me out?
Im really struggling with it? alot is down to the fact that i dont actually like it or the lecturer - anyone whos been in this boat and got through it, how?? and also what they found the easiest/ toughest/ helpful!!

thanks

totally agree with last poster.....i just seem to get a handle on eu law...its so boring and the manual seems to meander thru the material....really hard to see the wood from the trees...what are the general issues other people have with it?

tks

looney-toone

I'm doing Contract, Equity, Property and Company in October. I intend on doing a one day revision course in either Independent or GCD?

Has anyone had any experience of these courses? Or could someone tell me which one is better??

randomuser77

I remember some people saying they study using mind maps, so I was hoping to give that a go. My problem is that the idea with a mind map is to try to reduce a concept to as few words as possible. I'm not certain that's all that easy with law. Could someone who has found this method useful post an example mind map you've done please?

garethj

Hi

I have the most recent exam grids for Constitutional, Contract, Tort, Criminal and Property. Would anyone be interested in a swap of some typed notes on any of these subjects for the grids? Cheeky I know but in desperate need...

Sarahaw

Hi - I am offering GRINDS for the fe1's. If you're interested please PM me.

Regards.

JCJCJC

randomuser77 wrote: »

I remember some people saying they study using mind maps, so I was hoping to give that a go. My problem is that the idea with a mind map is to try to reduce a concept to as few words as possible. I'm not certain that's all that easy with law. Could someone who has found this method useful post an example mind map you've done please?

This might be completely nuts, but it'll do as an example. The subject material is mareva injunctions in Equity, remember I haven't looked at it since last April when I passed it - yet this mind map helps me remember the cases.

Imagine a big classical stately home, with a plane flying over it dropping bags of flour on two guys fighting inside the building. It helps if you doodle a cartoon of it.
Stately home - Powerscourt v Gallagher
Plane - Serge Caudron v Air Zaire
Flour - Fleming v Ranks Ireland
boxers - BH v RH.

That's how I do it. I have a nice book called Mind Maps by Tony Buzan, if you get it on Amazon you'll see all the techniques he has developed.

Hope that helps.

jc

shaneybaby

JCJCJC wrote: »

This might be completely nuts, but it'll do as an example. The subject material is mareva injunctions in Equity, remember I haven't looked at it since last April when I passed it - yet this mind map helps me remember the cases.

Imagine a big classical stately home, with a plane flying over it dropping bags of flour on two guys fighting inside the building. It helps if you doodle a cartoon of it.
Stately home - Powerscourt v Gallagher
Plane - Serge Caudron v Air Zaire
Flour - Fleming v Ranks Ireland
boxers - BH v RH.

That's how I do it. I have a nice book called Mind Maps by Tony Buzan, if you get it on Amazon you'll see all the techniques he has developed.

Hope that helps.

jc

Yup i do something very similar. FE1s are very differnt to college exams

I've got a couple of pms here about this so i'm gona post an email i sent a friend of mine. No way i would have passed most of my fe1's without using it but each to their own.


It works for some people and not for others. sure try it on a chapter, the initial "set-up" is a little longer but you actually do recall it a bit better.

The Journey method thing is a bit daft but it's like a filing system for your brain. It HAS to be productive especially if you are a bit short on time. No use reading 100 pages in a week if you can't even remember the topics by the end of it! Quite honestly i wouldn't have got mine without using this method. In fact i have no idea how people can learn off 200 cases per subject and be able to use them in the correct questions thereafter.( www.memoryacademy.com is yer man that i got the first lecture at. There is a book he has, for leaving certs but i got it and used the techniques for law. I mean it's essentially history we're doing.)

I think the Journey part of the technique is the most useful. I'm from Turners Cross so i use Turners Cross football stadium and the different parts of the ground for offer and acceptance for example and cork couthside generally for contract law. If a question on o&a ever comes up in work i just think "where is o&a on the map, the stadium, where is the postal rule, top left corner behind the stand, what are the cases....and it's a pretty bizarre image lets say

Yer man in Indp/griffith that does the memory seminar has a nice method of doing it. Even two years later, not that anyone ever needs to really, but i can still rattle off a few cases whenever i visit the places i "mapped". The journey method is so that you go "Directors duties, okay wher's that, Company law, company law was douglas road, directors duties was my home kitchen, whats in the kitchen" (not really items, you can use them if you want but i used events).

Using the above i had directors duties nearby an old desk i used to work at . When i imagined myself arrive at the desk i had Percival the waiter(just think it sounds like a name a waiter would have) waiting for me and no one else (case refers to general duties to company and no one else), he then takes my coat and hangs it on Dawson from Dawson's creek who's stuck face first in the coat stand (Dawson v Coats), Dawson sticks out his hand and takes the coat (case refers to co-operation between external and internal directors or something). Then i go sit at my desk (almost phase two, kinda signifies another section). The desk has loads of cup holders (shareholders). Santa is also sitting at the desk (Cris Crindle) and is shooting up and is kissing and hugging the needle (dependence/relationship). Then a giant Dinny Allen (ex cork footballer) induces santa to sit on his huge knee (huge=high=Hyatt, induce shareholders to sell)

Admittedly i got stuck after about Dawson just on that recall, i knew it was santa but i couldn't remember.My notes are dated 17/03/09 so obviously it has stayed with me somewhat. The whackier the better cause you'll remember it, dirtier as well seems to stick in mine

It's not perfect obviously but it seemed to suit me fine. Not too confusing i hope....

The thing about keeping your study rolling along is that you keep testing yourself on the material, teach your brain to remember stuff rather than just think it can get it from a book.

Outside the mind maps my way to study was before you even open a book was to spend 2 minutes quickly jotting down what you know. Then Read the stuff/chapter once and outline it like in the last email,( you don't have to use to journey method but it's handy to even have "marker" cases at the start of every topic, just to get you going in an exam). Once you've finished reading it (i'd usually spend 30-40 mins then 10min break)take a break then test yourself again. quickly like, 2mins max. Then spend maybe 10mins skimming back through your notes to see where you went wrong,test and skim, test and skim all the live long day
shane

holusbolus

Hi

Just wondering can anyone give me the exam grids for Constitutional, EU, Tort and Equity? Would be greatly appreciated!

PM please!

dinemo6

Hi,

Doing Contract, Equity and Property in October.... Have been reading here about "exam grids"....
Sorry to be so innocent but what are these grids / Where do you get them etc...
If anyone wishes to pm a newbie with one for the above subjects would really appreciate it....!!?!!

King Ian

Can anyone tell me when the Land Law & Conveyancing Reform Act 2009 was first examined in the Property FE1?

Asking just out of curiosity

JCJCJC

dinemo6 wrote: »

Hi,

Doing Contract, Equity and Property in October.... Have been reading here about "exam grids"....
Sorry to be so innocent but what are these grids / Where do you get them etc...
If anyone wishes to pm a newbie with one for the above subjects would really appreciate it....!!?!!

Grids are matrixes, like spreadsheets if you like, showing all the topics on the syllabus for each subject and the frequency in which they have arisen in the FE1s to date. They are prepared by the colleges specialising in FE1 courses and are very useful. You could do it yourself with past papers of course. They show you which topics can be eliminated because they never appear, and which are essentials because they almost always appear. After that, there are topics that make occasional appearances so the grids help you make a judgment call as to whether a re-appearance is likely. probable or not.

brian__foley

JCJCJC wrote: »

They show you which topics can be eliminated because they never appear, and which are essentials because they almost always appear.

Subject to the caveat that something never before on the exam, can just as rationally appear on the next exam as something which has always been previously examined. Cases in point for, say, contract being unconscionable bargain or proprietary estoppel. Alternatively, things off the exam for aeons, can just as rationally re-appear - e.g. (for contract again), formalities, capacity etc.

lawlawlaw

hi,

just wondering if anyone thinks it is too late to start studying for the fe1s now - thinking of doing three subjects (and signing off on the fourth) - had criminal, contract and either property or equity in mind - i managed to get some manuals and the exam reviews but haven't looked at anything until today!! i also will be unable study next week for various reasons - so really only have six weeks or so until the exams begin! is this too little time or is it even possible?

(p.s. i registered for the exams last week just so i have the choice)

any advice would be much appreciated!!

crystalmice

lawlawlaw wrote: »

hi,

just wondering if anyone thinks it is too late to start studying for the fe1s now - thinking of doing three subjects (and signing off on the fourth) - had criminal, contract and either property or equity in mind - i managed to get some manuals and the exam reviews but haven't looked at anything until today!! i also will be unable study next week for various reasons - so really only have six weeks or so until the exams begin! is this too little time or is it even possible?

(p.s. i registered for the exams last week just so i have the choice)

any advice would be much appreciated!!

I'm in exactly the same boat, starting this week but between this and that it will be next week really, trying to get 4 but not sure if it's possible! Is it true if you just inhale the manuals you should be ok? There's enough time for that but not much more!! Interested to hear ppls thoughts!

dinemo6

lawlawlaw wrote: »

hi,

just wondering if anyone thinks it is too late to start studying for the fe1s now - thinking of doing three subjects (and signing off on the fourth) - had criminal, contract and either property or equity in mind - i managed to get some manuals and the exam reviews but haven't looked at anything until today!! i also will be unable study next week for various reasons - so really only have six weeks or so until the exams begin! is this too little time or is it even possible?

(p.s. i registered for the exams last week just so i have the choice)

any advice would be much appreciated!!

I too am in almost exactly the same boat. Going to study for Contract, Property and Equity. After a brief glance at all three there seems to be some overlap here and there so might be an advantage.
What do people who have already sat some/all of the Fe1's think?

JCJCJC

dinemo6 wrote: »

I too am in almost exactly the same boat. Going to study for Contract, Property and Equity. After a brief glance at all three there seems to be some overlap here and there so might be an advantage.
What do people who have already sat some/all of the Fe1's think?

You can't generalise on this, referring also here to the previous post you replied to. It depends on how much knowledge you have right now. Some people study successfully for the FE1s who haven't either studied a law degree or worked in a paralegal job where they would acquire a knowledge, hats off to them but it's a big undertaking. Others sit and get all eight in one go right after college, they recall everything they learnt in college over four years - hats off th them too. Even more have a degree in something other than law, or pass the preliminary exam, and sit the FE1s whilst doing a law degree. If you are reasonably well up on a number of legal subjects, however you acquired your knowledge, and if you look at recent past papers and can say you could comfortably and competently do five or more of those questions, then a little work for the next 7-8 weeks should see you there.

Would strongly agree that contract, tort and equity help each other, maybe add property to that list. Criminal and constitutional have much in common also, but my bug-bear, EU, stands apart, maybe a tiny cross-over to constitutional, not very often.

corkgirl88

lawlawlaw wrote: »

hi,

just wondering if anyone thinks it is too late to start studying for the fe1s now - thinking of doing three subjects (and signing off on the fourth) - had criminal, contract and either property or equity in mind - i managed to get some manuals and the exam reviews but haven't looked at anything until today!! i also will be unable study next week for various reasons - so really only have six weeks or so until the exams begin! is this too little time or is it even possible?

(p.s. i registered for the exams last week just so i have the choice)

any advice would be much appreciated!!

I did three exams in one sitting and i had exactly 8 weeks to study for them. It was really stressful but i actually did really well in all three. If you are willing to work hard-Go for it. It is so nice to have some out of the way

trasla7

where do i buy the "original legislation" that i can bring into the exams e.g succession acts?

cheers

crystalmice

Hi,
I bought an Independent Colleges Criminal Law manual online from someone and they sent me a photocopied manual, so there is no cover etc. The bottom of every page says 2010/2011, but the content of the manual has clearly not been updated since 2007- the 'exam focus' section only quotes from the 2007 and earlier papers, and some of the law is clearly out of date (talks about 2008 prospectively etc)

Can anyone who has the 2010/2011 Independent Criminal manual PLEASE tell me if their manual hasnt been updated either, as Im really concerned now that the person sent me an old manual but changed the date!
Thanks, it would really put my mind at ease if you can tell me!!

OJS

What are people covering for EU??