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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    dK1NG wrote: »
    What size screen/ resolution etc would ye recommend for multi-tabling?

    .:(

    1600 x 1200 is the usual for serious multitablers, on most sites you can fit on 4 with no overlap, but on a few such as iPoker tables(in normal view) there is an overlap, most people can live with this, but I don't like any overlap so am ordering the 30" screen which has 2560x1600 resolution.
    dK1NG wrote:
    And can anyone tell me how to change the table size on boss/ipoker - its doing my head in recently.:(

    ipoker tables are not resizable as yet, you can either have mini view or normal view.


  • Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    Samsung 24" LCD Syncmaster 245B, Black, 1920x1200, 5ms, 1000:1, DVI

    Komplett at 529
    responce time is 5ms comparedt to the dell 6ms (not much i know)
    i have dell 20in and an iiyama 22in but since changing to ipoker i prefer to have all my tables on 1 monitor without overlap

    Actually scratch the above . this looks a better deal / monitor
    24" LCD Widescreen TFT Monitor + built in speakers Iiyama B2403WS 509 euro
    mesh computers.co.uk


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    ZZR1100 wrote: »
    to have all my tables on 1 monitor without overlap

    you will get overlap on that resolution on iPoker normal view as I mentioned aready in this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    Macspower wrote: »
    My graphics card is a nvidia geforce go 6100

    will it bee good enough to run one of these dell machines you are talking about?

    I've got a nvidia geforce 7900 gs, running vista.

    Any one know if thats alright with the dell monitors?

    Found these two on pcbuyit -
    http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product.asp?dept%5Fid=67&sku=187

    http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product.asp?dept%5Fid=67&sku=193

    Whats the difference between the two? I see a few people here got the 2407 and give it the thumbs up, anyone ever use the other one?

    Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Simon @ PCBuyIT


    Below is some information from a forum that may help with differences

    *************************

    I think you need to consider a few things here. Response time is important obviously, and modern TN Film panels are quite comparable with modern S-PVA / P-MVA / S-IPS panels in practice, where the 3 latter technologies are using RTC to boost grey to grey transitions. Nowadays, where the problem still lies with TFT screens for some users is with perceived motion blur. You could maye consider displays such as the BenQ Fp241WZ which feature additional technologies to help eliminate/reduce this. Their BFI technlogy can help in some cases, and is one of the few methods around which seems to have some positive improvements for gaming in practice.

    Other elements of panel technolgy do come into play as well, no matter what use you are considering. Black depth for instance is important as it can help mean darker scenes are well rendered and details are not lost. Viewing angles are important too, especially on screens this size. On the Samsung SM245B / E248WFP which is TN Film,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    Below is some information from a forum that may help with differences

    *************************

    I think you need to consider a few things here. Response time is important obviously, and modern TN Film panels are quite comparable with modern S-PVA / P-MVA / S-IPS panels in practice, where the 3 latter technologies are using RTC to boost grey to grey transitions. Nowadays, where the problem still lies with TFT screens for some users is with perceived motion blur. You could maye consider displays such as the BenQ Fp241WZ which feature additional technologies to help eliminate/reduce this. Their BFI technlogy can help in some cases, and is one of the few methods around which seems to have some positive improvements for gaming in practice.

    Other elements of panel technolgy do come into play as well, no matter what use you are considering. Black depth for instance is important as it can help mean darker scenes are well rendered and details are not lost. Viewing angles are important too, especially on screens this size. On the Samsung SM245B / E248WFP which is TN Film,


    Ermm...., in plain english please:confused:

    I'm not the most technology-minded person, and cant understand a lot of that.:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    i see a dell 2007 and 2407 for sale on adverts.ie dont think they are good value at asking price but i'm sure it can be negioated


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Well I finally got the beast that is the 30" Dell 3007WFP.

    I know a few people were interested to see what this looked like. Heres's a pic that I took with my camera phone. I'll take a better one later with my wife's camera. 6 Ipoker Tables no overlap :D. it's hard to fully apprecaiet the size of this monitor from that pic, the monitor beside it is the Dell 2001 FP which measures 20.1", so compare it to that monitor and you get some idea :D.


    30inchmonitor.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    luckylucky wrote: »
    Well I finally got the beast that is the 30" Dell 3007WFP.

    I know a few people were interested to see what this looked like. Heres's a pic that I took with my camera phone. I'll take a better one later with my wife's camera. 6 Ipoker Tables no overlap :D. it's hard to fully apprecaiet the size of this monitor from that pic, the monitor beside it is the Dell 2001 FP which measures 20.1", so compare it to that monitor and you get some idea :D.


    30inchmonitor.jpg

    nice


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,195 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    luckylucky wrote: »

    30inchmonitor.jpg
    Looks nice,
    I'd say you can get 8 on there.
    Rotate the screen 90 degrees, physically and digitally (right click the desktop and its an option),
    try it out and take a pic


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Mellor wrote: »
    Looks nice,
    I'd say you can get 8 on there.
    Rotate the screen 90 degrees, physically and digitally (right click the desktop and its an option),
    try it out and take a pic

    This monitor does not actually rotate physically, if it did I reckon it could very well get 8 tables on with no overlap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,195 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Is there not a release on the back to spin/remount it.
    For ****s and giggles, see if the 8 fit anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Mellor wrote: »
    Is there not a release on the back to spin/remount it.
    For ****s and giggles, see if the 8 fit anyway.

    Nope there is no release thing on the back, rememember this thing is massive, the height of the stand would need to be much much bigger to allow the thing to swivel around, so I guess Dell didn't bother implementing that capability in this model.

    I had to get a new graphics card for this monitor an MSI NX7300GT TD256. So I don't know how to rotate the screen digitally yet. I'll see if i can figure it out though ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,195 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Unless it is different from other windows/moniters
    right click on desktop, graphic options, rotation....
    or graphics properties.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Mellor wrote: »
    Unless it is different from other windows/moniters
    right click on desktop, graphic options, rotation....
    or graphics properties.....

    Yeah it appears to be different. I had to right click on windows and click on NVIDIA Control center, I easily sorted it from there. It was a right pain to try to arrange the 8 tables, so hope you like it :).

    There appears to be the faintest overlap horizontally, vertically there was none :D. pity that i can't physically rotate the beast, looks like I'll just have to settle for 6 :p

    8tables.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    luckylucky wrote: »
    8tables.jpg

    drooling_homer.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    wow nice one Lucky :)

    I know you also got it from pcbuyit.

    A word of warning for those who do decide to buy from them. I bough my 24" from them and it's an excellent piec of kit and have no complaints with it apart from their customer service...

    After ordering it I mailed them several times and they had "no record" of my transaction until I provided CC receipt and then they discovered it had been sent to another boardsie who had been away on holidays and didn't know it had arrived (he had also ordered and recieved his one a few weeks earlier).... I decided to go an collect it and had to make a 4 hour round trip to get it... Many thanks fellow boardsie for honesty and intesrity :)

    I mailed PC buy it to tell them that I now had it and wasn't very happy about the whole mix up and that my reciept for guarantee was now in other guys name and I had paid for delievery charges and stil had ot go colect the thing...

    they have chosen to ignore or failed to respond since (I purposly didn't post earlier to give them time to reply) Only correspondence was a nasty phone call to the poor boardsies place of work wher he spoke to his father who only knew that a package had arrived for his son but knew no more.... I think he was set "right" on this call :)

    simple mail from them to say sorry about mix up..... here's new warrenty reciept....... wont happen again and next time you order we'll look after you..... would have sufficed...

    Anyway buyer beware I say! but can't fault the monitor...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Macspower wrote: »
    wow nice one Lucky :)

    I know you also got it from pcbuyit.

    A word of warning for those who do decide to buy from them. I bough my 24" from them and it's an excellent piec of kit and have no complaints with it apart from their customer service...

    After ordering it I mailed them several times and they had "no record" of my transaction until I provided CC receipt and then they discovered it had been sent to another boardsie who had been away on holidays and didn't know it had arrived (he had also ordered and recieved his one a few weeks earlier).... I decided to go an collect it and had to make a 4 hour round trip to get it... Many thanks fellow boardsie for honesty and intesrity :)

    I mailed PC buy it to tell them that I now had it and wasn't very happy about the whole mix up and that my reciept for guarantee was now in other guys name and I had paid for delievery charges and stil had ot go colect the thing...

    they have chosen to ignore or failed to respond since (I purposly didn't post earlier to give them time to reply) Only correspondence was a nasty phone call to the poor boardsies place of work wher he spoke to his father who only knew that a package had arrived for his son but knew no more.... I think he was set "right" on this call :)

    simple mail from them to say sorry about mix up..... here's new warrenty reciept....... wont happen again and next time you order we'll look after you..... would have sufficed...

    Anyway buyer beware I say! but can't fault the monitor...


    Cheers Paul. Personally I didn't have any issue with PCbuy-it as such. The guy Simon can seem to be for want of a better description a bit abrupt on the phone, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's a busy man. Nonetheless from my chat with Paul on msn by the sound of things Simon could perhaps have handled his PR here a lot better.

    Anyway as I say no complaints from my part. I got a great piece of kit for a helluva lot cheaper than I could have got it from Dell.

    I had my own shenanigans in regards to delivery but nothing bad just kinda funny and typically Portuguese. I got a phonecall on Wednesday from the Fed-Ex guy, I could just about make out with my pigeon Portuguese that he wanted to meet in a town about 25km from where I live where I could collect it off him the following day, otherwise I would have had to wait at least another day, and believe me in Portugal that waiting another day could mean the end of the following week or worse still delivered to some other foreigners house in some other nearby village, so I didn't want to take any chance.

    I had to get a Portuguese friend to ring him back to make sure I had understood him right, so the next day I ended up collecting this Monitor outside a BP station 25kms from my place. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    lol lucky...... green with envy!

    Yeah I was also delighted with price too... bit of ryanair mentality I think... No frills ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭David Michael


    Lucky, I think with your set up you need a decent mouse, if you don't have one already?

    I'd recommend this One due to being able to adjust the sensitivity. I used to use it for gaming but for poker use on such a big screen it means you can zip across the screen with about an inch move of the mouse. The one I linked to you can set slow, medium and fast, all of which, once configured with the software, are interchangeable using two ickle buttons on the mouse.

    Worth considering. Nice screen btw!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Lucky, I think with your set up you need a decent mouse, if you don't have one already?

    I'd recommend this One due to being able to adjust the sensitivity. I used to use it for gaming but for poker use on such a big screen it means you can zip across the screen with about an inch move of the mouse. The one I linked to you can set slow, medium and fast, all of which, once configured with the software, are interchangeable using two ickle buttons on the mouse.

    Worth considering. Nice screen btw!

    cheers David Michael. I've got a specialist joystick mouse already as my hand was getting f'd up from the normal mouse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,195 ✭✭✭✭Mellor



    I'd recommend this One due to being able to adjust the sensitivity. I used to use it for gaming but for poker use on such a big screen it means you can zip across the screen with about an inch move of the mouse.

    The adjustable sensitivity is only really an advantage if you want to adjust sensitivity during play. If its just a case of setting it highly sensitive, then any mouse will do as all mouses can be set.

    Touch screen poker FTW


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    someof my screen shots from my new 2407..... pales by comparison to luckys...but .... is ginormous compared to my old 19"

    removed links as they were messing up the thread due to the width of them.. i do like lucky and take some photos at some stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    I had planned on ordering the 2407 off pcbuyit soon, but now I'm not so sure....:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Macspower wrote: »
    wow nice one Lucky :)

    I know you also got it from pcbuyit.

    A word of warning for those who do decide to buy from them. I bough my 24" from them and it's an excellent piec of kit and have no complaints with it apart from their customer service...

    After ordering it I mailed them several times and they had "no record" of my transaction until I provided CC receipt and then they discovered it had been sent to another boardsie who had been away on holidays and didn't know it had arrived (he had also ordered and recieved his one a few weeks earlier).... I decided to go an collect it and had to make a 4 hour round trip to get it... Many thanks fellow boardsie for honesty and intesrity :)

    I mailed PC buy it to tell them that I now had it and wasn't very happy about the whole mix up and that my reciept for guarantee was now in other guys name and I had paid for delievery charges and stil had ot go colect the thing...

    they have chosen to ignore or failed to respond since (I purposly didn't post earlier to give them time to reply) Only correspondence was a nasty phone call to the poor boardsies place of work wher he spoke to his father who only knew that a package had arrived for his son but knew no more.... I think he was set "right" on this call :)

    simple mail from them to say sorry about mix up..... here's new warrenty reciept....... wont happen again and next time you order we'll look after you..... would have sufficed...

    Anyway buyer beware I say! but can't fault the monitor...

    I can confirm Macs version as i was the Boardsie that recieved hes monitor. I had bought the exact same monitor 3 or 4 weeks before. Then while i was away a package came to the same place my original monitor came my familys business in Athlone, and it was left in the office with all the other packages that come.

    Around the time i got back Mac sent me an email saying that they might have delivered the monitor to me instead and when i checked it out and it was in the office i offered to have it deliver it to Mac the next morning and i would contact pcbuyit to reclaim the delivery costs and so he wouldnt be delayed any longer, so it wasnt my fault or Macs fault that they delieverd the monitor to an address 2hrs away from where it was supposed to be as i presume he lives somewhere in Dublin.

    But he arranged to drive down the next day instead and collect it from the shop, saving pcbuyit the extra delivery charge. I wasnt going to be there so i had passed on word that someone would be in to collect it some part of the day. Shortly after it was picked up my Father recieved a call asking for me, he recognised the number was from England and put 2 and 2 together as i had explained to him that they delivered it from England to me again instead of someone else and so he asked was it about the monitor and when told it was he said that someone had just collected it and everything is sorted.

    At this point whoever was on the phone from pcbuyit became very ignorant and said that no arrangments were made for anyone to pick it up yet and that they were picking it by courier in the next day or 2 and that my credit card would be charged for another monitor if there were any problems with him recieving the monitor.

    He was quickly told that if he wanted to be so smart he would be getting a bill for having the monitor on our premises as were running a restaurant not a storage facilty for them.

    Now the mistake was obviously on their end and i dont know how they can mix up an address in Athlone with an address in Dublin, their customer Mac, got hes order delayed and my father got a mouthful down the phone for explaining a situation and i obviosuly got no thanks for helping to reslove the situation so from that point of view you would think that they would be thankful to me instead of rude and very apologetic to Mac who was more than inconvienienced by this having to make a 4hr trip because of their messup.

    They should understand that the word pcbuyit and pcbuyit.co.uk is mentioned so much in this thread that it will show up in the search engines and will become bad publicity for them and they should have handled it better. I certainly wouldnt buy off them again i will almost certainly be buying more monitors. Considering Me, Mac and Lucky have bought 3 monitors on the publicity from this thread alone should make them aware how important reasonable customer service is.

    The one thing i will say is i had no problems at all with my original delivery and at that stage i was impressed with the service but not after the latest fiasco.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Got a better pic of that Dell 30" now from da missus camera

    BigScreen.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    Image1.jpg

    Now if i could only figure out what to do with JJ on the BB.
    sry bout the blurred pic


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Will the dell 2407 mentioned work with any laptop? Or do I have to have a certain spec, or buy an extra card or something?
    (I know absolutely nothing about computers.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    van dice... It will work if you have a blue avi output onthe back of yur laptop but it would be better again if you had a dvi output.. mine doesn't ahve one of these but the 2407 still works... I believe there is a cheaper newer version of the 2407 out now


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Macspower wrote: »
    van dice... It will work if you have a blue avi output onthe back of yur laptop but it would be better again if you had a dvi output.. mine doesn't ahve one of these but the 2407 still works... I believe there is a cheaper newer version of the 2407 out now

    a dvi/avi what?! What's the newer version called? sry for so many questions, I'm a computer fish!


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