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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    Sorry by the way. :) and it was not personal. It's obvious I work in IT isn't it. I've never come across you before and it was more expressing my anger from the job. (not that I hate my job it's just annoying sometimes that's all!!)

    Some people just demand things that are not possible.

    Understood ! No probs ! Just don't offer any manhugs :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    The people that start scanning their items as I'm still taking mine really need to fúck off though.

    Dickheads like these are why I stand in front of the scanner as much as I can while packing my stuff. If someone is taking half an hour to put their shopping in a bag, fair enough, but moving in while someone is still collecting their change is the height of ignorance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,126 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Seriously, why not use SuperScan?
    Its infinitely quicker.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Sorry if it's been said before but this really pisses me off. It's when people scan the item through and then put it down in front of the scanner. The machine then kindly informs them to "Place the item in the bagging area" and shows them a nice video of someone placing a product in the fúcking bagging area. They proceed to take another item from their basket and try and scan this through then look at the screen and wonder why it won't work while the thing is still showing the video and screaming at them. Fúcking idiots


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    2 stroke wrote:
    I've stopped shopping at tesco because of theese machines and the security tags put on some items which need to be publicly removed by staff.
    Once I was highly embarresed when a staff member reached into my shopping and pulled out a durex product, but not as embarresed as she was. I made a complaint to the manager and accepted his point that theese items would just walk out of the store if it wasn't for the security tags. Next week I had a problem with a security tag on a bag of potatoes. Now I can't realy see a skanger running out with a bag of potatoes in his pocket.
    I haven't been back since. I prefer not to shop where the average shopper is treated as a potential shoplifter.

    The average shopper is treated as a potential shoplifter everywhere, like it or not. Hence security cameras and security men. If something comes with a big plastic security box around it, it's worth being aware that this box will have to be removed, as a rule. If you're that embarrassed of having a sex life and needing condoms, maybe that's a problem you need to address. Hyper-sensitivity towards a supermarket who check your bags when you set an alarm off is more an admission of a guilty conscience than something laudable about yourself. Next time you go to <insert generic supermarket here> and they look in your trolley as you pass through the checkout (just in case) are you going to refuse to shop there again too? You'll run out of places to shop preeeety quickly. I suppose you could always grow your own food and make your own clothes, but even then you need seeds, utensils, fabric... I guess you're a bit stuck.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    seansouth wrote:
    My jaysis.

    How can people not know how to use these wonderful inventions.

    Wonderful inventions? What a crock of shít! They are the same old tech as the normal checkouts minus an employee. Chump pays tesco for goods. Then chump checks out and packs stuff saving greedy bastards at Tesco etc the expense of either:

    a) employing a human to do the job
    b) spending big money on a proper automated checkout based on RFID tags or somesuch.

    ka-ching! Profits!

    Those fúckking automated checkouts make me angry. The people who pander to the company greed so they can save a few minutes of their precious lives are also part of the problem.

    Rant over.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    fly_agaric wrote:
    b) spending big money on a proper automated checkout based on RFID tags or somesuch.

    The reason rfid tags haven't been introduced is because they are still relatively expensive. If they put an rfid tag that costs 20 cent into a tin of tesco value beans that cost 30 cent now that would increase the cost to 50 cent. Not worth it. when the tags come down in price they will be implemented.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭Tazdedub


    The worse I have ever seen was in tesco, A guy with a trolley full of stuff at the self service basket checkout:mad: , was scanning stuff in but as he scanned it he was putting it back in the trolley, there were errors going off all over the place he was just standing there looking at the machine, needless to say someone from tesco came over to him and he couldnt tell her what he had scanned or what he hadn't scanned. I think he was there for about an hour and the mess that he was making as well. But what was even worse was that the person who had come over from tesco was helping him try scan the stuff, they should have just told him to go queue a checkout with a human and then cancel what was on the machine.

    After that incident I am now very careful as to when I go to a self service checkout incase I end up behind someone like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    Blush. It wasn't condoms but one of them vibrating **** rings. assistant attracted a lot of attention diving into my shopping and there were several snigers when she pulled out the ofending article.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Kur4mA


    The ones in Tesco are a ****ing joke tbh with constant errors and the machines being very choosy over what they scan and dont scan.

    I find the self service machines in Superquinn infinitely better and as a previous poster said, there's usually a member of staff actually doing their job and clearing any errors from the machines immediately so that the queues move a lot quicker.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭sioda


    The thing with the Superquinn tills is most SQ customers have been self scannin for years and are well used to it.

    Glad to here chip and pin is being implemented coz it aint down here in Limerick yet and feel it is a big security hole.

    Must admit to avoiding the self service during peak times plus find that the checkout furthest away from the self service often has no queue. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    2 stroke wrote:
    Blush. It wasn't condoms but one of them vibrating **** rings. assistant attracted a lot of attention diving into my shopping and there were several snigers when she pulled out the ofending article.

    Hmm... didn't realise they sold those in Tesco - interesting!

    If people sniggered, then that's their problem, isn't it? Do you really, really care that people queuing in Tesco laughed at your c0ck ring? Did it make you want it less, or return it? Sounds like it didn't. Surely you were alerted on the screen that further assistance was required - but you ploughed ahead, and now blame the supermarket?

    She was doing her job - I doubt very much lunging at your shopping was high on her list of prospective thrills for the day. You acknowledge what the manager said - that otherwise they'd walk (or perhaps vibrate their way) out of the shop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    Have read this thread with great interest, I work at self service checkouts about 35 hours a week!

    Where do I even start...

    First of all, people scanning things and the machine tells them to place it on the belt. They stand with the item in their hand, gawping at the screen with their mouth wide open. After about 5 minutes they decide to ask me to help. I then have to go over and explain that "Place item on belt" means you have to place the item on the belt. Cue "It doesn't say what item!!!". I point at the screen which clearly says the name of the item along with "Please place the last item you scanned on the belt".

    Next we have people with trolleys coming to the basket lanes. Usually when there are several people in each queue.I have to go over and explain that as our signs CLEARLY say, these lanes are only for baskets. Cue "That's ridiculous!!!" etc. I politely state that it is not fair to hold up the 10 people in the queue behind you who are only getting a couple of things. Cue "Well you have to let me go to the front of the queue at the trolley lane then". No I do not. Cue the usual throwing eyes to heaven.

    Then we have people who come over saying "Can you put this stuff through for me, I'm in a rush". I politely explain that these are SELF SERVICE checkouts, I have 7 other checkouts to look after and it is not fair that everyone else is held up because you don't want to put your stuff through yourself. I am then asked "Is it not your job to assist me?", I then have to explain that yes it is my job to ASSIST you, not to do everything FOR you. At this stage said person will either do it themselves or walk out. Twice I have had complaints made about me, because Nala at the self service checkouts expects her customers to scan their items themselves.

    Then there's the people who seem to think that self service machines are toys for their kids to climb all over. They scan an item and their child decides it would be a great idea to start leaning on the scales or even better, get up on the machine and stand on it. The weight of the item is not quite the same as the weight of the item plus your child so the machine says "Unexpected item". Cue Mammy or Daddy turning around and barking at me "Excuse me what is the problem here". I then explain that the problem is the weight of the child. Mammy or Daddy then tells the child off, 2 seconds later the child is doing it again but hey, let's wait til the assistant comes over to say the same thing again...

    Then there are people who seem to think self scanners are price check points. They queue up especially to scan something and then walk off. Every time this happens I have to go over and cancel the item, this holds up everyone else. There are 3 price checkpoints in our store. Use them.

    As for people with 6 cans of beer asking why is there no multiply button. That would be OK with 6 cans of say Bud, they are all identical. But then we would have people buying 6 cans of dog food of different flavours. Different flavours have different barcodes, if you have 4 beef and 2 chicken and put them through as 6 chicken we will be short 4 beef dog foods at our next stock take. Same as yoghurts etc.

    Not being arrogant but I am one of the best at self scan in our store, any errors e.g. "Unexpected item" are fixed within seconds, but some things cannot be helped. Machines can and do freeze at any time, I can't do anything about this. Sometimes we have people taking all their shopping off the scales, the machine says "Item removed". The customer then decides to only put half the stuff back on, and get "Please wait for assistance"...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Nala wrote:
    Have read this thread with great interest, I work at self service checkouts about 35 hours a week!

    Where do you work nala? I had to do the self service the odd time when I worked in tesco. When it was quietit was the handiest job there was. When it was busy it was a nightmare. We only had the four so I do not know how you could cope with the seven on your own when it is busy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,481 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i love these things. tesco are great for having loads of them, and my local superquinn just got 4 of them installed... but in superquinn, the old grannies still manage to take forever, having a chat etc. leaving me standing there with 4 items for 10mins waiting for a free checkout...


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    But then we would have people buying 6 cans of dog food of different flavours. Different flavours have different barcodes, if you have 4 beef and 2 chicken and put them through as 6 chicken we will be short 4 beef dog foods at our next stock take. Same as yoghurts etc.
    Ah yes. This is something I should know (I won't explain why) :o
    Maybe it would be a good idea to have six packs in boxes with their own barcodes. Then you could have loose cans for people who don't want six cans :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Think of all the people ripping individual cans out of boxes and then walking up to the counters and trying to scan them :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Oh my friend was trying to buy a six pack of fanta and got so confused when scanning it he ended up buying the same thing 5 times! Someone had to go and help him...twat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Nala, well done: A very well thought out post.

    IMO, the staff in charge are generally doing their best to handle 4 or 5 self service checkouts at the same time and usually do a good job.

    The system is also as foolproof as it can be. I presume the multiple scanning button has been disabled, along with many other useful functions, so that the system is as user friendly as possible.
    Nobody can suggest that it is a difficult system to master and used correctly I rarely get any problem.

    Frankly, people who can't use these machines should not be allowed out on their own in the first place. They're clearly a danger to themselves and others. Tesco staff should have the legal right to immediately remove these people from the self service lane and take all their products from them!

    On the other hand, I can see the argument for not using them at all, given the chances of being stuck behind one of these morons and just the simple fact that you're paying the store to do it for you anyway.

    So, in summary, only use the self service checkout if:
    (a) You want to
    (b) You are sure you know what you're doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Post was so good, I posted it twice


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭bolliwoodi


    MooseJam wrote:
    self service is a license to steal, scan every second item

    wont work- happened a woman in our local tesco- tried to get away with out paying for something and tried to put it down the line without scanning but if ya throw something down without scanning it it says "Unexpected item on the belt" real loud its f****n embarassing i tell ya


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion



    Frankly, people who can't use these machines should not be allowed out on their own in the first place. They're clearly a danger to themselves and others. Tesco staff should have the legal right to immediately remove these people from the self service lane and take all their products from them!

    On the other hand, I can see the argument for not using them at all, given the chances of being stuck behind one of these morons and just the simple fact that you're paying the store to do it for you anyway.

    So, in summary, only use the self service checkout if:
    (a) You want to
    (b) You are sure you know what you're doing

    Why weren't people like you in charge when I worked in tesco. It would have made my life a damn bit easier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    Since being moved to self scan after the good oul days of checkouts my role as self scan assistant has made me come up with two theories:

    1. The vast majority of my customers have the intelligence of a plank.

    2. All self service assistants go to heaven.


    As far as people not knowing how to use the machines- I would much rather the person who openly admits "I haven't a clue how to use these things, could you show me?" because it is easier to show them how to do it properly the first time than let them try and do it themselves and do it wrong. The people I hate are the ones who haven't a clue but either blame the machine or me, and try to tell me how to do my job. Especially the ones who think I'm some sort of skivvy.

    Oh yeah, and I really wish we had signs up for "English speaking customers only", because I have enough of a problem translating "Place item on belt" to Irish people, let alone the ones who look at me blankly and say "I no speak English". I'm not racist like but if you can't understand me what hope do you have with a machine???


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    Blush.
    Hmm... didn't realise they sold those in Tesco - interesting!

    If people sniggered, then that's their problem, isn't it? Do you really, really care that people queuing in Tesco laughed at your c0ck ring?
    Theese are sold beside the condoms at my local store and are durex branded.
    I suspect you live in dublin where you can shop relativly anominously. Try buying one of these in a shop where everyone knows you. I had bought it as an impulse buy (for myself and wife) while buying condoms for my son and thought that if I used the self service I wouldn't attract attention to myself.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Nala wrote:
    Since being moved to self scan after the good oul days of checkouts my role as self scan assistant has made me come up with two theories:

    1. The vast majority of my customers have the intelligence of a plank.

    2. All self service assistants go to heaven.


    As far as people not knowing how to use the machines- I would much rather the person who openly admits "I haven't a clue how to use these things, could you show me?" because it is easier to show them how to do it properly the first time than let them try and do it themselves and do it wrong. The people I hate are the ones who haven't a clue but either blame the machine or me, and try to tell me how to do my job. Especially the ones who think I'm some sort of skivvy.

    And to think we are told that the customer is always right. My fúcking hole they're right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Nala wrote:
    Since being moved to self scan after the good oul days of checkouts my role as self scan assistant has made me come up with two theories:

    1. The vast majority of my customers have the intelligence of a plank.

    If only I was intelligent enough to work in a supermarket and earn
    minimum wage ;)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    If only I was intelligent enough to work in a supermarket and earn
    minimum wage ;)

    Just because you are on minimum wage doesn't mean you are a simpleton. The self service tills are very user friendly and are basically a glorified calculator. They are not that hard to use.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    And to think we are told that the customer is always right.

    I think you may have misunderstood the message.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    First off, I'm one of those fooker's who clog up the service.

    I dread using those machine's, can't figure 'em or haven't the patience to try.

    But last Christmas I was trying to scan in aload of DVD's and CD's for pressies when one of the girls working there told me she had to take off the security box thing.

    Grand, she takes the lot, take's them out of the box and hands them back.

    Phew, that was easy I was thinking and walked out.

    Half way home the penny drop's!. I never scanned them, she took them straight to the end of the belt, done her business, gave them back and off Mairt goes!.

    Happy day's.

    Was that stealing?.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,269 ✭✭✭markpb


    Mairt wrote:
    First off, I'm one of those fooker's who clog up the service. I dread using those machine's, can't figure 'em or haven't the patience to try.

    Why use them then? It's no reflection on you if you can't and it must be faster to use the other aisles?


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