irish-polish relationships

zaratustra

f@@k, i am Surprised now ;D

The Corinthian

One major issue is immigrant population size. It's a lot easier for Poles to be lazy (by lazy I mean lazy as lazy as any other group would be) and just mix with other Poles, because there are so many of them here, while with other nationalities, there are fewer opportunities to socialize with ex-pats, thus forcing them to socialize with the natives.

Ironically the next biggest immigrant group (Chinese) don't have this issue, largely because, coming from such a large and varied country, they are a far less homogeneous group and thus often have less in common with each other.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that would be a major reason IMHO.

zaratustra

The Corinthian wrote:

One major issue is immigrant population size. It's a lot easier for Poles to be lazy (by lazy I mean lazy as lazy as any other group would be) and just mix with other Poles, because there are so many of them here, while with other nationalities, there are fewer opportunities to socialize with ex-pats, thus forcing them to socialize with the natives.

Ironically the next biggest immigrant group (Chinese) don't have this issue, largely because, coming from such a large and varied country, they are a far less homogeneous group and thus often have less in common with each other.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that would be a major reason IMHO.

i have much more Irish friends here then polish...

Raiser

digitally-yours wrote:

Tell me something new ! :rolleyes:

this is already in your signature !

If you want further publicity I suggest place Advert advert@boards.ie .

Yeah - just for the record I thought that was uncalled for too - DY if you aint got something to contribute you should really log off and go take up a hobby or some outdoor interest, I'm guessing that dog-fighting might be your thing

Gone West

magpie wrote:

beeing "l337" at BF2 is not a desirable characteristic.

What

Crap there goes my 5 year plan!

_feedback_

The Corinthian wrote:

One major issue is immigrant population size. It's a lot easier for Poles to be lazy (by lazy I mean lazy as lazy as any other group would be) and just mix with other Poles, because there are so many of them here, while with other nationalities, there are fewer opportunities to socialize with ex-pats, thus forcing them to socialize with the natives.

Ironically the next biggest immigrant group (Chinese) don't have this issue, largely because, coming from such a large and varied country, they are a far less homogeneous group and thus often have less in common with each other.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that would be a major reason IMHO.

That's very true ....

My girlfriend is from Poland, she's been here for almost eight years , but doesn't socialise with Polish people at all.

What The Corinthian is saying is very true, a lot of polish will just stick together and work and live together. One thing that pisses off my girlfriend is that in her place of work, the polish will come in and ask for favours just because they are polish 'and should stick together' etc ...

Fair enough, if they're only here for a couple of years to work, but there is one couple she knows of, who have a young child with not one word of english and they've made no attempt for him to learn before going to school. How is he meant to fit in? If they are here for the long term they should be making the effort.

The Corinthian

zaratustra wrote:

i have much more Irish friends here then polish...

So what? This thread is asking about Irish-Polish relationships, not Zaratustra's relationships.

As you've pointed out, for example, language is not an issue for you, but the reality is that is is for many others (Poles and non-Poles). So I suspect, with all due respect, you can hardly take yourself as an example of your average Pole in the context of this discussion.

Kintarō Hattori

Already many people, such as ned and others have pointed out that there are in fact plenty of Polish/Irish relationships. As I type this I'm sitting in a Polish internet cafe in Plock with my polish girlfriend to the left of me.

While the percentage of Polish/Irish relationships may not be massive, I'd hazzard a guess that they're probably higher than for other nationalities.
Well to answer your question honestly we'd need to know a few things. Do you have many Irish friends? Are they seeing anyone Polish? Do you go out and socialise or stay at home with friends?

Yes there are few relationships I know of between Irish women and Polish men, it certainly seems to be the other way around in the vast majority of the cases.

Raiser

The Corinthian wrote:

So what? This thread is asking about Irish-Polish relationships, not Zaratustra's relationships.

As you've pointed out, for example, language is not an issue for you, but the reality is that is is for many others (Poles and non-Poles). So I suspect, with all due respect, you can hardly take yourself as an example of your average Pole in the context of this discussion.

Seems that Zaratustra was just making a statement from a Polish perspective, as is their right on a public message board, doubly so given that the thread concerns Polish people in Ireland which they just happen to be :rolleyes:

Your statement however Corninthian carries more weight, substance and authority I'm sure - but I'll be hanging around to learn WHY exactly. Also could you please reveal to us the list of boards.ie subscribers that you have decided should be allowed to post on this thread ?

Honestly, some people shouldn't be allowed to possess a PC.

Sandie-B

elviscostello wrote:

That's very true ....

My girlfriend is from Poland, she's been here for almost eight years , but doesn't socialise with Polish people at all.

What The Corinthian is saying is very true, a lot of polish will just stick together and work and live together. One thing that pisses off my girlfriend is that in her place of work, the polish will come in and ask for favours just because they are polish 'and should stick together' etc ...

Fair enough, if they're only here for a couple of years to work, but there is one couple she knows of, who have a young child with not one word of english and they've made no attempt for him to learn before going to school. How is he meant to fit in? If they are here for the long term they should be making the effort.

My boyfriend is polish, here for about 14 years now and experiences the same problem as ur gf in work.

It seems to be a similar situation as you have in Spain or Greece or other holiday destinations where the Irish stick with the Irish and the English stick with the English etc etc. And before anyone jumps in, let me explain what I mean.......some ppl are just like that, regardless of nationality, culture etc Some ppl just prefer to stick to what they know and have no desire to move outside the box and experience other things (or other ppl ).

On the other hand a lot of my polish friends came over as couples so they simply weren't looking for an irish partner and I think that could possibly be another contributing reason, some polish that come over are already taken!!

I think the biggest question to ask is 'Who really knows?' If you see a couple walking down the road how do you know if the girl is deff polish or irish and the same for the guy. My bf's polish friends have commented loads of times that I don't look irish (when they see pics and also when im out with them) So how can anyone say for sure that the number of relationships is lower when, unless someone opens their mouth and speaks, you can't say for sure if they are Irish or Polish?

(Oh and just 2 little things, 1.I'm not a skanger and I can assure you that polish blokes have a good chance with normal, nice, classy girls too and 2. I know plenty of Irish that can out-party (in both noise and drunkeness) any nationality, including the polish!!)

DonJose

zaratustra wrote:

at this moment i am working on Irish - polish forum to put Irish and Polish people
in touch with each other and discuss different topics or views.

link: www.irishpolishforum.com

It isn't ready yet but i am working on it. If you are interested take a look please...

LOL whats polish for SPAM

nesf

Lads, leave the moderation to the moderators please.

nesf

elviscostello wrote:

What The Corinthian is saying is very true, a lot of polish will just stick together and work and live together. One thing that pisses off my girlfriend is that in her place of work, the polish will come in and ask for favours just because they are polish 'and should stick together' etc ...

Similar to what most immigrant groups of size do in most countries. Sure you do get exceptions, like zaratustra above but in general, if immigrants can socialise with other ex-pats they will do so since they usually have a fair amount in common with them already. It's not a negative thing but a very human thing, you will tend to socialise with people with whom you share a lot in common.

The Corinthian

Raiser wrote:

Seems that Zaratustra was just making a statement from a Polish perspective, as is their right on a public message board, doubly so given that the thread concerns Polish people in Ireland which they just happen to be :rolleyes:

To which I was pointing out that they are hardly a typical example.

Your statement however Corninthian carries more weight, substance and authority I'm sure - but I'll be hanging around to learn WHY exactly. Also could you please reveal to us the list of boards.ie subscribers that you have decided should be allowed to post on this thread ?

I gave an opinion and clearly marked it as such. I also challenged the opinion of another poster, which last time I checked is part and parcel of any discussion on Boards or other Internet noticeboard. Welcome to the Internet.

Simply because he's Polish, does not make him the definitive authority on all things Polish anymore than my being Italian make me the definitive authority on all things Italian. He certainly has his experience, but I have put forward that his is likely atypical in this case.

Now, this may have affected your tender sensibilities, but that's really not my problem. Take it somewhere else.

magpie

As I type this I'm sitting in a Polish internet cafe in Plock with my polish girlfriend to the left of me.

Polish internet cafe

digitally-yours

magpie wrote:

Polish internet cafe

I cant stop Laughing

tomster

magpie wrote:

Polish internet cafe

I am Polish myself but I'm crying from laughing so hard..... :D:D

LiamDuff

I know a few sad case Irish men who have Polish wives. They though they were on top of the world as these were the sorts of men that usually would never have girlfriends. Of course the wives are cheating on them all the time with what I suspect is their real Polish husband. All IT guys with a decent bit of money. So if you see a smug Irish man with a Polish wife have pity on him.

demanufactured

I think the reason you dont see a lot of irish girls with polish men s because of the way polish men behave when their in groups.

When they drink they get absolutly legless and they are very agressive by nature(been told this by a friend from eastern europe)

They are very domineering over their women too.
They start fights over nothing(i know skangers do this too.)

just my 2c

tomster

LiamDuff wrote:

I know a few sad case Irish men who have Polish wives. They though they were on top of the world as these were the sorts of men that usually would never have girlfriends. Of course the wives are cheating on them all the time with what I suspect is their real Polish husband. All IT guys with a decent bit of money. So if you see a smug Irish man with a Polish wife have pity on him.

Yeah, tell me about it, I'm married about 9 years to a Polish girl... Sometimes I feel sorry for myself and don't really understand what is this hassle about (I mean Polish "birds")... I've never been cheated (I'm sure) but their attitude and moany mood every day... Different story when some Irish lad wants to try EE meat... That's understandable. But marry them? NEVER!

tomster

demanufactured wrote:

I think the reason you dont see a lot of irish girls with polish men s because of the way polish men behave when their in groups.

When they drink they get absolutly legless and they are very agressive by nature(been told this by a friend from eastern europe)

They are very domineering over their women too.
They start fights over nothing(i know skangers do this too.)

just my 2c

That's true as long as we talk about low-educated workers and their primitive nature and rude attitiude. I hate those scumbags myself.

Following your thoughts from the above I am not a Polish because I'm very different than what you described.

FX Meister

magpie wrote:

To put it simply, Irish guys can get together with Polish girls as owing to the language/cultural barriers the girls view some Irish guys as successful / attractive (they have jobs / apartments / all limbs and teeth intact). This has proven a boon for Irish guys working in IT and related industries that were previously in danger of dying out through the extreme unlikelihood of any of them hooking up with Irish girls who realise that beeing "l337" at BF2 is not a desirable characteristic.

The other way around, the only girls the Polish guys would have any chance with are complete Skangers, so they prefer to guzzle titanic quantities of vodka, wander around with shaved heads and combats, work on building sites and host terrifyingly noisy parties that involve the sound of wood being sawn at 4.00 am. Based on personal experience that is.

Over to you eo980

Well I can't see what Polish chick would go out with an irish guy. All Irish men drink all day, are very lazy, ugly, smell and are crap in bed. FACT

demanufactured

FX Meister wrote:

Well I can't see what Polish chick would go our with an irish guy. All Irish men drink all day, are very lazy, ugly, smell and are crap in bed. FACT

so EVERY irish man is like this????, what are you , an idiot?

cregser

FX Meister wrote:

Well I can't see what Polish chick would go out with an irish guy. All Irish men drink all day, are very lazy, ugly, smell and are crap in bed. FACT

Have you been around as much as your sig?

Tha Gopher

Quite simply that so many seem to come with their partner. Most Polish lads seem to shack up with a girl 5 years younger in their mid 20s, compared to Ireland where most lads prefer to play it for a few years. You see the very occasional instance of an Irish lad and Polish girl, but I have never, even on the street, seen a Polish man with a girl who is off Irish appearance. Cant say Ive ever saw an Irish girl trying it on in a club either, I dunno, Irish women just dont seem to fancy them.

I think alot of irish would have a thing with loyalty. By now most of us have pulled a E European girl at least once, but most of these women have boyfriends. If every E Euro you pulled was doin the dirty, irish men would wonder about their status as wife material.

cregser

A converstaion overheard in work a good few months ago:-

A- "Jaysus, those eastern europeans are everywhere these days."
B- "Yeah, but you gotta hand it to their women, they really got the irish ones to sort themselves out"
A- "Ah man, they were gettin' outta control."

...I laughed.

Plug

cregser wrote:

A converstaion overheard in work a good few months ago:-

A- "Jaysus, those eastern europeans are everywhere these days."
B- "Yeah, but you gotta hand it to their women, they really got the irish ones to sort themselves out"
A- "Ah man, they were gettin' outta control."

...I laughed.

Its the truth though, they will eventually up grade the standards of the Irish women, shout outs to all the Polish girls at the local hall.

P_1

My girlfriend is polish and a few mates also have polish gfs.

Much easier to get along with than irish girls imo

tomster

pithater1 wrote:

My girlfriend is polish and a few mates also have polish gfs.

Much easier to get along with than irish girls imo

But... why? IMHO Irish girls aren't as moody as Polish, lovin a good craic, laugh and crazy nigts out, are more independent. That's why I find them very attractive.

And for God's sake, don't tell me about bodies, shapes etc., because the hottest birds I've ever seen were Irish. Here in Ireland.

P_1

tomster wrote:

IMHO Irish girls aren't as moody as Polish, lovin a good craic, laugh and crazy nigts out, are more independent.

TBH I've found quite the opposite,
maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.

Also the polish accent...