trouble in hill 16

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

Oh yea, on a lighter note, anyone who thinks the Dubs in the Hill give undue abuse to other fans, i invite you to put on a Dubs jersey and go to the Dome Nightclub (I think its called that anyway) in Bundoran. You`ll get more than a few bottles thrown your way there i tell ya!! I remember wearing my Dublin jumper on New Years on the way down and was warned many times not to go near any of the pubs in it unless i dont like my bone structure as it is now

Don't think it would be anything personal, it's just Bundoran . There's a certain element there, not from Donegal, that don't take to kindly to Dublin jerseys, strangely enough, considering that on the 12th July they all come there to avoid another element that don't like Dublin jerseys.

Nalced_irl

Hehe, true. Been up there many times. I remember being in Ballyshannon for the trad festival and we camped out basically on a roundabout with a group from Derry i think beside us. They werent aggressive at all to us but id say if you were on the other side in the north, these guys would kick the stuffing out of you! Only got talking to them cos i was wearing a Celtic top and that opened a whole can of songs/chanting ect

Atomic Pineapple

Nalced_irl wrote:

Jesus, whoever shot that video must be the best person to ever set foot on this planet.















Thats my video btw, incase you didnt guess from the Leinster Final last year. See the amount of abuse i get from idiots on it for simply shooting it? You dont even get to see the stuff i delete before it goes public!!

did you see the shots used in todays sun from that actual video??
they claimed it was from the dublin meath game recently though!

Mossy Monk

draffodx wrote:

did you see the shots used in todays sun from that actual video??
they claimed it was from the dublin meath game recently though!

It's not like The Sun to tell lies is it?

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

Hehe, true. Been up there many times. I remember being in Ballyshannon for the trad festival and we camped out basically on a roundabout with a group from Derry i think beside us. They werent aggressive at all to us but id say if you were on the other side in the north, these guys would kick the stuffing out of you! Only got talking to them cos i was wearing a Celtic top and that opened a whole can of songs/chanting ect

Does tend to attract that element, grand if u wear a Celtic jersey but no if u wear a Dublin jersey Ah well, lifes full of contradictions

daffodx wrote:

did you see the shots used in todays sun from that actual video??
they claimed it was from the dublin meath game recently though

Excellent investigative journalism, maybe you should join the Sun and show them how to do it

Nalced_irl

Thats the third time the video has been used. Where the hell is my cheque???

Atomic Pineapple

Nalced_irl wrote:

Thats the third time the video has been used. Where the hell is my cheque???

yeh was gonna say would you be entitled to anything, even a mention for taking the video but probably not because its in the public domain on youtube already?

K-9

Was in the Tribune as well, tho in a seperate story on Guards. No mention of Dubs moreso complaints against guards and of course the abuse they get as well.

The Rooster

Inevitably there is going to be a serious incident on the Hill, whether it be this year, next year or the following year. The Gardai, by doing nothing to stop throwing bottles etc, actually encourage the scum bags to take things further each time.

it cant be easy for teams playing in croker against dublin and having abuse hurled at them from a packed hill full of dubs.

Yeah, that must be why Dublin have won 15 All Irelands in a row :rolleyes:

I can't understand why an opposition supporter would want a Hill ticket when playing against the Dubs. Dublin games always create some of the best atmospheres at games during the year - and thats thanks to the Hill - and it encourages oppositon supporters to chant against it. Why would anyone want to stand with the enemy?

Its also no coincidence that Dublin's offical GAA sanctioned website is hill16.ie

Hill16 is for the Dubs. Its established tradition. Its great for the game. But crybabies like crying, its what they're good at. And let them keep crying - won't do them any good.

Smarmore

I can't understand all this fuss about the Hill. I'm a Louth fan and I would never go near the Hill, regardless of whether Dublin were playing or not. I was on the edge of the Hogan last weekend overlooking the Hill. I didn't see much of the commotion though as I was concentrating on the game, my sister was telling me about it afterwards. The Hill is jut an eyesore on the end of a fantastic stadium. It should be bulldozed out of it with all the Dubs on it. I'm not surprised the Dublin GAA fans feel at home on the Hill because it is such a kip. It suits them. All it does is give the rest of a country a gilt-edged opportunity to look down on the Dubs and point our fingers at the riff-raff. Let them have it or destroy it and finish off the stadium like it should have been done in the first place.

clg23

As a Louth fan you should thank the Dubs for giving your Tommy Murphy team a chance to play in CP if not for us your mickey mouse team would be playing in Parnell Park or some smaller club ground if its available...

Smarmore

Tommy Murphy team?? Anyway it's interesting that you think the Dubs gave Louth the chance to play in Croke Park. I would have thought it was a decision by the GAA and the Leinster Council but obviously you know something I don't. The Dublin County Board tried to get us put out of it in case you don't know. Louth also played there against Wicklow in the first round as a double header with Meath and Kildare. So we will be having our third run out in Croke Park on Sunday and hopefully another one in the semi-final against Laois. But thanks anyway!!

kaimera

clg23 wrote:

As a Louth fan you should thank the Dubs for giving your Tommy Murphy team a chance to play in CP if not for us your mickey mouse team would be playing in Parnell Park or some smaller club ground if its available...

Bit cocky doncha think? :rolleyes:

Mossy Monk

clg23 wrote:

As a Louth fan you should thank the Dubs for giving your Tommy Murphy team a chance to play in CP if not for us your mickey mouse team would be playing in Parnell Park or some smaller club ground if its available...

Dublin now decides who plays in Croke Park? :rolleyes:

clg23

I think it was established earlier that DCB requested the stand alone fixture to provide more tickets for the Dub/Meath fans, not as part of some sinister plot to deny Louth fans there day out...

I am not saying that Dublin gave Louth the chance to play in Croker, but a chance to play in front of a full house (even if it was just as a curtain raiser for the main event).. I dont think a Louth/Wicklow game coupled with any other Leinster QF would come near to selling out

Smarmore

clg23 wrote:

I think it was established earlier that DCB requested the stand alone fixture to provide more tickets for the Dub/Meath fans, not as part of some sinister plot to deny Louth fans there day out...

I am not saying that Dublin gave Louth the chance to play in Croker, but a chance to play in front of a full house (even if it was just as a curtain raiser for the main event).. I dont think a Louth/Wicklow game coupled with any other Leinster QF would come near to selling out

There were 5000 empty seats!! Anyway that's besides the point. I wouldn't paricularly want to be in a full house if there's a bad atmosphere and a large scumbag element there. Louth and Meath have a good rivalry as well heightened by a few memorable games including the GG injury time goal in Pairc Tealtainn a few years back, 6 minutes into injury time!! After that game the Meath fans fell out of Pairc Tealtainn as if they'd just won an All-Ireland. Did the Louth fans start fighting with them and throwing bottles? No we didn't. And the support was evenly divided that day, a lot of Meath fans were already gone by the final whistle because they thought the game was over. If it's gotten to the stage where rival fans can't celebrate their team doing well against the Dubs then there is a problem. Saying it's just a minority is a cop-out. We all know that from witnessing English hooliganism for years. This whole "keep the Hill for the Dubs" attitude is not welcome in GAA and it gives people the wrong mentality about it. The Dubs should want other fans among them to establish a bit of healthy rivalry. The "keep the Hill for the Dubs" attitude in itself is yob mentality and should not be put up with. We're not a pack of animals.

blackbelt

Smarmore,STFU.

I'm disgusted and offended by your comments.You obviously think that EVERYBODY who enters the Hill wearing a Dublin jersey is a scumbag.First of all,I'm a real fan who will go to any stand in CP and I will go to Hill 16 if I choose.I am not a scumbag for sure.Secondly,your ignorance and stupidity is highlighted in your comments.Just because you deem Hill 16 a kip,doesn't make that so.The Hill stands for tradition for the Dubs and for some keyboard warrior like yourself to say those things is disgusting.

I'd like to see you call me a scumbag to my face or to any Dublin fan who is going to the Hill.You wouldn't have the gohonies thats for sure.By the way you go on,you swear because you go to the Hogan Stand that you are rich boy snubbing those because they go to a particular part of the stadium.1940 just called and they say they don't miss you.We're hardly living in an era of first class and lower class when it comes to GAA.

Anyway,enjoy your day in CP in the HOWgan Stand or the CUSOck Stand.I've a good feeling it will be your last in the championship when Wexford are done with Louth.

Smarmore

Anyway... I will enjoy my day in Croke Park, cheers!! You're entitled to your opinion but I reckon it's going to be a good day for the Wee County. I actually hope you Dubs can stuff Meath because I've always hated their fans attitude. My old man is from Kerry and he had to listen to all the Meath clowns who overtook the Hill a few years ago sing a chorus of Oles every time they managed to string more than 2 passes together.

But again that's besides the point. Your whole attitude in that last post just shows you are or at least have the same attitude as the scum on the Hill. I wouldn't have the "gohonies" to call you a scumbag. Give me a break. You have no idea what I even look like and yet you come out with a little childish "let's have ya" rant. You go on about the Hill being a "tradition" for the Dubs. So I suppose that justifies the whole mob mentality that attitude fosters as well. As I said before you're not a pack of animals so stop acting lik it. I'm not the only one to make the observation that there is a scummy element to Dublin GAA support. It may be a generalisation but then give me an example of a generalisation that's not based on fact. Most of the Dublin posters here have even admitted that. Hill 16 is a joke and the Dubs attitude to it is pathetic. Why don't you all just take a collective p**s on the Hill the next day? Pack of animals.

cruiserweight

Jesus not even July and we could have mass bannings soon :rolleyes: THis might have to be updated as well http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054977317

Atomic Pineapple

Smarmore wrote:

The Hill is jut an eyesore on the end of a fantastic stadium. It should be bulldozed out of it with all the Dubs on it.

are you joking? because of hill 16 there are calls to allow terraces be used again in soccer and rugby, the atmosphere is unbeatable in the hill, you wont get it anywhere else in the staduim or never will, there is no comparing the craic and atmosphere on the hill its just not possible with seats. it would be a sad day when the terrace is gone hopefully it wont because it cant be extended because of the railway behind it.

thats why i'd love to be able to enjoy the hill on a meath v dublin day, it would be great craic but cant because of the overwhelming ticket sales to dubs, thats just the way it is.

Trampas

Not every hill ticket goes to Dublin.

We had someone saying earlier that meath got 3,000 hill tickets for the first game

Nalced_irl

Smarmore wrote:

It should be bulldozed out of it with all the Dubs on it. I'm not surprised the Dublin GAA fans feel at home on the Hill because it is such a kip. It suits them. All it does is give the rest of a country a gilt-edged opportunity to look down on the Dubs and point our fingers at the riff-raff. Let them have it or destroy it and finish off the stadium like it should have been done in the first place.

I think your account here should be bulldozed with a childish post like that. Im not surprised a Louth/Greater Dublin Area "Fan" would make a little jealous post like this, what with having to constantly live in Dublins shadow. If your gonna be childish, so am i. The only reason i have ever been in Louth in my life is to drive out the other side. Now you make some other childish post about Dublin being a kip (good oldfashioned anti-Dublin attitude. In fairness, Drogheda is a lovely place Note: <----Sarcasm ) and we go on and on. However, i have more to do with my time. You actually have a much closer attitude to the stereotypical "Hill Scumbag" than any Dublin fan i have ever met.

Smarmore wrote:

This whole "keep the Hill for the Dubs" attitude is not welcome in GAA and it gives people the wrong mentality about it.

Your speaking for the GAA now? No offense but after your posts, i can safely say nobody gives a steaming sh*t what you think.

Smarmore wrote:

Give me a break. You have no idea what I even look like and yet you come out with a little childish "let's have ya" rant.

That deserves alot of smiles. Your commenting on somebody elses childishness??? Severe case of the pot calling the kettle black!

Smarmore wrote:

I wouldn't paricularly want to be in a full house if there's a bad atmosphere and a large scumbag element there.

I honestly cant remember a Dubs match in Croker with a bad atmosphere. Anyone else? In fact, most games involving Dublin have been noted for their great atmosphere. of course most people arent as fragile and sensitive as you.

Smarmore wrote:

Hill 16 is a joke and the Dubs attitude to it is pathetic.

Hill 16 is a part of Irish History you moron, altho you may not know that. You dont sound like youve made it to secondary school yet. Dubs attitude to it? Please explain our attitude to it? Tickets go on sale, we buy them. If other counties buy them, i dont care. If they dont, i dont care.

Smarmore wrote:

As I said before you're not a pack of animals so stop acting lik it

Smarmore wrote:

Why don't you all just take a collective p**s on the Hill the next day? Pack of animals.

For the arguement about contridictions in the other thread. Heres one for you. Funny thing is, im not in the least bit insulted by anything this fool says. Id have a stab in the dark and guess he was bullied by a Dubliner in school who frequents the Hill. Smarmore, nobody here gives a damn about listening to you vent your anger against your Big Brother County over the net. The fact is Hill 16 will remain a terrace and The Dubs will remain as the major bulk of fans that go there. Its been that way for a long time and your childish whining wont change that. On a final note, im guessing you have never in your life been on Hill 16 right? So what are you basing all your crap on? What you saw happen at the Meath game? How many were involved in that? Did the Meath fans do anything to provoke it? You dont know of course but your little mind full of bigotry and hate decided what happened long ago of course. Grow up and forget to pay your internet bill so we dont have to listen to you again.

PS. After this ************* fool, lets hope Louth get creamed!!

blackbelt

ROFL and LMFAO at Smarmore,sorry I took so long to post,I had to be helped off the floor as I was laughing so hard.

You really are a pathetic child.You're priceless.If anybody ever called me a scumbag to my face for the simple fact that I go to the Hill,they wouldn't turn their back to me without being more pissed off than me.As far as the other supporters are concerned,I'd say they'd paint Jones Road with your blood and rightfully so I say.I've no time for scumbags and equally I don't have time for trouble makers like yourself Smarmore.I'd be on my way while you get your comeuppance.They'd make you look more like a Dublin supporters,blue and navy black all over.For your own good,watch your mouth and what you say.

The fact that you brand everybody a scumbag is a true reflection on the type of person you are.You're a trouble maker and it is that behaviour that is classed as scumbag and hooliganism.You don't know the fans personally.There is a scumbag element on the Hill but your generalisation is sickening.I wouldn't like to know what you look like either.

I can tell you that but I guess you are right in a sense Smarmore,I do not know you and what you look like.You're probably some teeny bopper who listens to retro Spice Girls songs and whose big sister has to bring you to CP to keep you out of harms way.You probably run your mouth off and when it looks like you are in danger,you hide under your sisters blouse.

Nalced_Irl post just ripped the p1ss out of you.Your comment that Hill 16 should be bulldozed is 50 times worse than Lemlins claim to have it closed while Dublin are playing and your contradiction is hilarious.I'm sure a lot of scumbag Dub supporters would take a collective p1ss on you but if your behaviour is what you are really like then I guess your welcome to it.

Smarmore

God you're an awful angry bunch. Can nobody have a different opinion of "the Hill" than you guys without getting accused of being childish, a moron etc. etc.? You seem to think I care about the Hill or have some inferiority complex about Dublin. I don't. Dublin are a superior team to Louth and I live in Dublin. I've been going to Croke Park for years as well as loads of other stadia in the country. I may be wrong but I can pretty much guarantee I've been to more stadiums in this country than any Dub that was on Hill 16 last week. I just think it's pathetic the way some Dubs get so worked up about "the Hill".

Couldn't be bothered taking any more part in this thread because every time anyone posts an alternative view to the Dubs point of view they get shot down by clowns like blackjack and Nalced. Btw I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with some of those comments about the Dubs, e.g. point our fingers at the riff-raff, because I can see you guys are very easy to rise. Relax lads!! Anyway, throwing aside the attempts at personal insults and returning to the topic, you shouldn't be defending the Hill or the Dubs actions on it the last day. Pointing the finger back at the Meath supporters is very "childish". The Dublin fans threw bottles and were completely out of order. It's indefensible so stop trying to defend it. Just makes you look like one of them!! As an aside, good choice in targeting Meath fans. Any other set of supporters and the rest of the country would have been up in arms!!

Grudaire

I'm not sure if this was already brought up, but after removing the meath fans (who proceeded to jeer the crowd) they left a few in the hill- who weren't screaming at the dubs.

What about the group on the Cusack stand who took every score as a reason to stick their fingers up at the hill....

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

As far as the other supporters are concerned,I'd say they'd paint Jones Road with your blood and rightfully so I say.I've no time for scumbags and equally I don't have time for trouble makers like yourself Smarmore.I'd be on my way while you get your comeuppance.They'd make you look more like a Dublin supporters,blue and navy black all over.For your own good,watch your mouth and what you say.

Is this the kind of reaction the Dub supporters had to the Meath fans celebrating on the Hill 2 weeks ago? You've got some serious issues blackjack but I'll leave you to worry about them. You do realise what that little speech makes you look like. Listen lads I'm sorry for taking a different point of view to your precious little Hill, I really am. If you come across me at the weekend you're more than welcome to come over and take your closet anger out on me. Or maybe you'll just go and round up a few of your buddys first.;) This thread is just ridiculous at this stage and should be locked. Answer for the OP yes something should be done about this!!

clg23

Smarmore wrote:

I can pretty much guarantee I've been to more stadiums in this country than any Dub that was on Hill 16 last week.

WTF?

blackbelt

Clowns??....Like Nalced and Blackjack?There is a Blackjack on boards but I assume you mean me yeah?I wouldn't insult a clown by dubbing you as one.:D

Why shouldn't we defend the Hill.Apart from the select few,the Hill is a great place to be when Dublin are playing.The atmosphere is electric.If you were a Dub and went,you'd see my point.I also believe that you would not turn down a Hill ticket if Louth miracuously got to some major final and there were killings for tickets so also take that into account.

You say we are an angry bunch....well yeah!!! We don't appreciate being labelled scumbags just because a certain minority throw crap.I think you should analyse your comments and think about what you say.Try to realise that not all 18,000 fans or so on the Hill throw bottles and stuff.Thanks for your hope that Meath will lose but we don't need that.Our players are either good enough or not to beat Meath on the day on Sunday.

If you want to make any other childish comments or something ridiculous,I won't entertain you by replying.Keep it objective or at least don't spout any crap.

Waylander

Smarmore wrote:

Is this the kind of reaction the Dub supporters had to the Meath fans celebrating on the Hill 2 weeks ago? You've got some serious issues blackjack but I'll leave you to worry about them. You do realise what that little speech makes you look like. Listen lads I'm sorry for taking a different point of view to your precious little Hill, I really am. If you come across me at the weekend you're more than welcome to come over and take your closet anger out on me. Or maybe you'll just go and round up a few of your buddys first.;) This thread is just ridiculous at this stage and should be locked. Answer for the OP yes something should be done about this!!

Noone begrudges you an opinion, but when you say things like The hill should be bulldozed with all the dublin fans on it, and Dublin fans are a pack of animals, you are going to rub people up the wrong way. You will have to continuee your back tracking to calm some people down. I was not on the hill a couple of weeks ago, but I know the atmosphere that it creates in Croker is second to none when the hill is in full voice. Maybe you should go to a Dublin match and sample it for yourself and see if you maintain the attitude, cause at the minute it sounds like you are posting from a base of ignorance and heresay.

hawker

Blackbelt,

You say you can choose to go to any part of CP. Well every other fan should be entitled to that same choice. And that includes Hill 16.

However in no way would I say that all Dubs on Hill 16 are scum. Yes there is a minority of them who would be less desirable. I stood on Hill 16 for a Leinster final a few years ago and I must say that I found 95% of the fans to be both witty and not offensive in any way. A bit of banter passed to and fro without any incident and thats the way it should be.

The GAA need to distribute Hill tickets equally between both sets of supporters no matter who is playing in CP.