Missing Madeline - Anyone else sick of this?

sam34

thebaz wrote:

thats a bit cheap , blaming the parents !
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well like it or not they ARE the ones who left three children under the age of 4alone locked into an apartment, in a foreign country, while they went out for dinner. blaming them wont bring the girl back but lets call a spade a spade and acknowledge their guilt.

Mossy Monk

thebaz wrote:

thats a bit cheap , blaming the parents !

Seriously. It was the parents who left children on their own. The parents should be charged with child endangerment.

HashSlinging

Oriel wrote:

One more thing. MILF.

Holding the cuddly toy? And sedated.. you are sick.

event

this is typical Irish begrudery

If her bebo page bothers you, dont visit it
If reports on sky bother you, dont watch it
if reports in the papers bother you, dont read them

what is the problem here?

Pighead

event wrote:

this is typical Irish begrudery

If her bebo page bothers you, dont visit it
If reports on sky bother you, dont watch it
if reports in the papers bother you, dont read them

what is the problem here?

What ya getting so worked up for?
If the begrudgers posts annoy you, don't read them

thebaz

Mossy Monk wrote:

Seriously. It was the parents who left children on their own. The parents should be charged with child endangerment.

do you not think they are suffering eneogh -- throw them in jail then that will relly help -- many parents leave children sleep in apartments alone on holiday , and check regularly -- its hardly a criteria for bad parenting -- they were extremly unforntunate -- blame the parents so not the abductors or paedos

whiskeyman

thebaz wrote:

do you not think they are suffering eneogh -- throw them in jail then that will relly help -- many parents leave children sleep in apartments alone on holiday , and check regularly -- its hardly a criteria for bad parenting -- they were extremly unforntunate -- blame the parents so not the abductors or paedos

It's almost akin to a young couple dying in a car crash who didn't wear their seat belts IMO.
It's an awful tragedy, but you know it mightn't have happened if they weren't reckless (and not just 'extremely unfortunate') in the first place, but it's not something you really want to say at the time.

Mossy Monk

thebaz wrote:

do you not think they are suffering eneogh -- throw them in jail then that will relly help -- many parents leave children sleep in apartments alone on holiday , and check regularly -- its hardly a criteria for bad parenting -- they were extremly unforntunate -- blame the parents so not the abductors or paedos

But they still left a child on her own and now the child is gone to god knows where. I never mentioned throwing them in jail but they have to hold some responsibilty for this.

mountainyman

Mossy Monk wrote:

But they still left a child on her own and now the child is gone to god knows where. I never mentioned throwing them in jail but they have to hold some responsibilty for this.

If this was a single mother on benefits the cries for her head would be loud and shrill.

Checking every half hour (and that is really 'half hour') means the child could be left alone and crying and frightened for half an hour.

It is very sad just like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey

MM

sam34

i read somewhere (possibly here on boards but maybe twas in a newspaper) that in england you can be prosecuted for leaving children under 11 unsupervised. its just plain reckless. and plenty of people doing it does not mena its ok or justified.

fatboypee

Quite, Quite amazing some of the conversation here.

Conjecture and analysis of events shown to you on your TV sets have their respective places, (and I'm trying to keep my horror in check), but the two points go hand in hand:

1. The society in which we live can detatchedly emotionally kick around the subject of a small child's kidnap in the first place.

2. The commentary on this board and people being "Bored" with the coverage of such an awful event.

Isn't there a quote somewhere, we get the society we deserve?
FBP.

thebaz

Mossy Monk wrote:

But they still left a child on her own and now the child is gone to god knows where. I never mentioned throwing them in jail but they have to hold some responsibilty for this.

Many parents leave there parents unattended for short periods , and 99.998 % of the time nothing happens ..

in this busy world world with 2 working parents or single parent families, it probably happens more than ever , i'm not condoning it , but it happens , and if its the odd 20 minutes here and there , i think its ok ... theres far worse things that parents do

Mossy Monk

thebaz wrote:

Many parents leave there parents unattended for short periods , and 99.998 % of the time nothing happens ..

in this busy world world with 2 working parents or single parent families, it probably happens more than ever , i'm not condoning it , but it happens , and if its the odd 20 minutes here and there , i think its ok ... theres far worse things that parents do

Bull****. They must be accountable. Just because people do it all the time is no excuse. They took a chance and are now paying the price for it.

event

Pighead wrote:

What ya getting so worked up for?
If the begrudgers posts annoy you, don't read them

classic pighead post

sorta funny, but doesnt really have any point

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

um

it has a point
a pretty relevant point actually

big up the pighead

Tha Gopher

event wrote:

this is typical Irish begrudery

If her bebo page bothers you, dont visit it
If reports on sky bother you, dont watch it
if reports in the papers bother you, dont read them

what is the problem here?

Exactly. wah wah wah sky/BBC never shut up. They are both British channels. If you dont want to know watch RTE or TV3, the story is never more than 4 odd mins of their airtime. tbh the only thing im sick of is the kids family blaming the police for the whole mess.

Mind you, the media have now camped outside the house of the main suspects ex wife and child, and they have fled. Disgraceful tbh, wtf do they have to do with anything.

Actually scratch that, the most embarrasing of all is Mordeth and cos attempts at controversy. Chris Morris must be sh1ttin himself at such minds in cahoots and ruining his career.

galah

what annoys me (and yes, it's not the best choice of words, but I can't come up with any other word for it right now) is not the fact that this particular case is so blown up - it's the fact that a gazillion kids go missing all the time, and there's no or hardly any coverage at all...That makes me feel sad, really...

thebaz

Mossy Monk wrote:

Bull****. They must be accountable. Just because people do it all the time is no excuse. They took a chance and are now paying the price for it.

do you have children ?
if so do you watch them 24/7 -- you sound like the ultimate authority on good parenting

Hrududu

many parents leave children sleep in apartments alone on holiday , and check regularly -- its hardly a criteria for bad parenting

That sounds like bad parenting to me. Who on earth would leave such small children on their own so they could go to the restaurant or pub?

if so do you watch them 24/7 -- you sound like the ultimate authority on good parenting

Can you genuinely not see the difference between 'I dont watch them 24/7' and 'Lets go to the pub and leave our 3 children under 4 in this apartment by themselves'?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Actually scratch that, the most embarrasing of all is Mordeth and cos attempts at controversy. Chris Morris must be sh1ttin himself at such minds in cahoots and ruining his career.

why is it that every time someone posts an opinion that deviates from the norm around here they are automatically accused of being 'controversial' just for the sake of it?

I can't curse at you, or call you names because I'd get banned but...

well, you know.

6th

thebaz wrote:

do you have children ?
if so do you watch them 24/7 -- you sound like the ultimate authority on good parenting

I have kids and mossy is right, people just dont like saying it when a tragedy like this happens.

6th

Why didnt they just pay for the babysitter?

Hagar

6th wrote:

Why didnt they just pay for the babysitter?

That is the key question, not where is she now.
If it was asked more often now instead of glossing over the real cause of the tragedy it might prevent other similar incidents.

6th

I've even had a conversation with one crazy "friend" who's suggested that the parents set it up ...... now thats a bit far for me.

Nala

I'm gonna get slated for saying this, but:

What kind of parents leave three children all under the age of 4, on their own in a hotel room in a foreign country while they go out? They were probably leaving them there every night. It's a sad case alright and I hope nothing happens to the child (though I think she is already dead), but the parents have only themselves to blame.

I know it sounds harsh but come on.

6th

Well they arent the only ones to blame in fairness - no one forced someone to break in and snatch the kid.

_feedback_

Mossy Monk wrote:

Bull****. They must be accountable. Just because people do it all the time is no excuse. They took a chance and are now paying the price for it

Agree 100% with that..... I mean it's really disgusting that somebody could take a child, but it's not the first time. Kids that young should not have been left on their own .

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tha Gopher wrote:

Actually scratch that, the most embarrasing of all is Mordeth and cos attempts at controversy. Chris Morris must be sh1ttin himself at such minds in cahoots and ruining his career.

Attempts at controversy is one thing, but condoning/suggesting putting picture's of children on the backs of porn DVD's is quiet another. (Post 75 in reply to post 74).

thebaz

6th wrote:

I have kids and mossy is right, people just dont like saying it when a tragedy like this happens.

it is physically impossible to watch your children 24/7 -- although the attitude here is you must , probably by many who are not parents ! -- same as the belief that all teens should be monitored at all times by an adult when on a computer -- we don't live in an ideal perfect world , and child abduction is extremy rare -- parents need a life too -- and i think the lack of symapathy here to the parents in this case is scary .

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Mairt wrote:

Attempts at controversy is one thing, but condoning/suggesting putting picture's of children on the backs of porn DVD's is quiet another. (Post 75 in reply to post 74).

lol, oh yeah. I did say that

well, on a purely practical level it would be kind of useful. I'd imagine almost as many porn dvds get bought worldwide as milk cartons.