few cash game hands, opinions?

ianmc38

Looking at these hands in isolation, I would classify you as a fish at 1/2. Thats not an insult, more an unbiased neutrals observation.

dougee19

nah its understandable, these are the worst hands keep in mind, i could post some of my good ones but i'll be a while looking,
and just so this doesnt get locked again, can ye post on the hands too??? lol

ianmc38

1. Open limping is a leak
2. Calling raises with KTo is generally bad
3. Getting it all in preflop with 26o is awful
4. Raising 26o is bad
5. Calling raises with KJo is bad. Reverse implied odds and all that.

dougee19

i used to be generally a tight layed, but didnt work for 6 handed games, and in a 5/6 handed game noone here calls raises with kj??
and 62 is horrible.
and
k-10 was chaotic

ianmc38

GAME #535352683: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 02:59:55
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($2797.5 in chips)
Seat 3: borgmastaren ($1299.25 in chips)
Seat 5: jimmyb1515 ($1703.5 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1402 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($804.75 in chips)
Seat 10: igor44 ($4456 in chips)

jimmyb1515: SB $5
SirBustaLot: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [DK D10]
michaeld18: Call $10
igor44: Fold
cbnzzz: Raise $50
borgmastaren: Fold
jimmyb1515: Fold
SirBustaLot: Fold
michaeld18: Call $40
*** FLOP *** [S6 S10 DA]
michaeld18: Check
cbnzzz: Bet $80
michaeld18: Call $80
*** TURN *** [S6 S10 DA CK]
michaeld18: Bet $120
cbnzzz: Raise $380
michaeld18: Allin $554.75
cbnzzz: Call $294.75
*** RIVER *** [S6 S10 DA CK H5]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbnzzz: shows [CA HA] (Three of a kind)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [DK D10] (Two pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1621.5 Rake $3
cbnzzz: wins $1621.5

Limp calling preflop is absolutely terrible.

GAME #535350711: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 02:52:21
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($2827.5 in chips)
Seat 3: borgmastaren ($1318.25 in chips)
Seat 5: jimmyb1515 ($982.5 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1745.25 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($1163 in chips)
Seat 10: igor44 ($4444 in chips)

michaeld18: SB $5
igor44: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [D10 C9]
cbnzzz: Fold
borgmastaren: Raise $40
jimmyb1515: Fold
SirBustaLot: Fold
michaeld18: Call $35
igor44: Fold
*** FLOP *** [C10 H8 HJ]
michaeld18: Check
borgmastaren: Bet $77
michaeld18: Call $77
*** TURN *** [C10 H8 HJ S6]
michaeld18: Check
borgmastaren: Check
*** RIVER *** [C10 H8 HJ S6 C3]
michaeld18: Check
borgmastaren: Bet $155
michaeld18: Call $155
*** SHOW DOWN ***
borgmastaren: shows [SJ CK] (Pair)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [D10 C9] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $551 Rake $3
borgmastaren: wins $551

Another horrendous preflop call. 9To oop in a headsup pot = bad.

GAME #535972020: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 21:48:01
Table Rossano

Seat 1: Laaandy ($1049.5 in chips)
Seat 3: michaeld18 ($405 in chips)
Seat 5: Louisa19 ($585.67 in chips)
Seat 6: Banantarzan ($155 in chips)
Seat 8: boogyknight ($110 in chips)
Seat 10: EVILSHARK ($1445.75 in chips)

boogyknight: SB $5
EVILSHARK: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [C6 D2]
Laaandy: Fold
michaeld18: Raise $32
Louisa19: Fold
Banantarzan: Fold
boogyknight: Allin $105
EVILSHARK: Fold
michaeld18: Call $78
*** FLOP *** [D7 SK CJ]
*** TURN *** [D7 SK CJ S6]
*** RIVER *** [D7 SK CJ S6 H2]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michaeld18: shows [C6 D2] (Two pair)
boogyknight: shows (mucked) [SQ DA] (None)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $227 Rake $3
michaeld18: wins $227

Yuck

GAME #535799400: NLH No DP 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 18:30:35
Table Ordes (No DP)

Seat 1: michaeld18 ($687.72 in chips)
Seat 3: cuspide ($2765.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BlowYaMind ($1317 in chips)
Seat 6: alexrolinck ($455 in chips)
Seat 8: D.Jerkov ($1793 in chips)
Seat 10: Lichad ($976 in chips)

michaeld18: SB $5
cuspide: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [SK SA]
BlowYaMind: Raise $40
alexrolinck: Fold
D.Jerkov: Fold
Lichad: Fold
michaeld18: Call $35
cuspide: Call $30
*** FLOP *** [S4 C8 D4]
michaeld18: Check
cuspide: Check
BlowYaMind: Bet $80
michaeld18: Call $80
cuspide: Fold
*** TURN *** [S4 C8 D4 S3]
michaeld18: Check
BlowYaMind: Check
*** RIVER *** [S4 C8 D4 S3 H4]
michaeld18: Check
BlowYaMind: Bet $250
michaeld18: Call $250
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [SK SA] (Three of a kind)
BlowYaMind: shows [S10 H10] (Full house)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $777 Rake $3
BlowYaMind: wins $777

Again preflop is bad. 3-bet that hand from the blinds almost always.

GAME #535855186: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 19:37:19
Table Alta Gracia

Seat 1: HighHeeel ($190 in chips)
Seat 3: michaeld18 ($430 in chips)
Seat 5: eyespecialist ($1114 in chips)
Seat 6: noiq3442575 ($1073 in chips)
Seat 8: tytyIWINtyty ($1831.25 in chips)
Seat 10: MrAntony ($1918.75 in chips)

HighHeeel: SB $5
michaeld18: BB $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [C10 SA]
eyespecialist: Fold
noiq3442575: Fold
tytyIWINtyty: Fold
MrAntony: Fold
HighHeeel: Call $5
michaeld18: Raise $20
HighHeeel: Allin $180
michaeld18: Call $160
*** FLOP *** [S3 H2 D6]
*** TURN *** [S3 H2 D6 D9]
*** RIVER *** [S3 H2 D6 D9 H8]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HighHeeel: shows [S5 H5] (Pair)
michaeld18: shows [C10 SA] (None)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $377 Rake $3
HighHeeel: wins $377

I'd need a reason to call his allin.

GAME #535357969: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 03:22:57
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($2828.64 in chips)
Seat 3: OhNoes ($230 in chips)
Seat 5: littlespoon ($970 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1211 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($1395.22 in chips)
Seat 10: igor44 ($4829 in chips)

OhNoes: SB $5
littlespoon: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [H7 HJ]
SirBustaLot: Fold
michaeld18: Call $10
igor44: Fold
cbnzzz: Fold
OhNoes: Call $5
littlespoon: Check
*** FLOP *** [D3 C7 HQ]
OhNoes: Check
littlespoon: Check
michaeld18: Bet $15
OhNoes: Fold
littlespoon: Call $15
*** TURN *** [D3 C7 HQ S6]
littlespoon: Check
michaeld18: Check
*** RIVER *** [D3 C7 HQ S6 DQ]
littlespoon: Bet $40
michaeld18: Call $40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
littlespoon: shows [S5 H4] (Straight)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [H7 HJ] (Two pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $137 Rake $3
littlespoon: wins $137

Once again dreadful preflop play.

GAME #536058683: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 23:26:37
Table Cholet

Seat 1: noiq3442615 ($3241 in chips)
Seat 3: Trunte11 ($307.25 in chips)
Seat 5: tytyIWINtyty ($935 in chips)
Seat 6: michaeld18 ($553.5 in chips)
Seat 8: canigga7 ($1320.75 in chips)
Seat 10: Lichad ($1000 in chips)

noiq3442615: SB $5
Trunte11: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [SJ HJ]
tytyIWINtyty: Raise $35
michaeld18: Call $35
canigga7: Fold
Lichad: Fold
noiq3442615: Call $30
Trunte11: Call $25
*** FLOP *** [S8 H3 C4]
noiq3442615: Check
Trunte11: Check
tytyIWINtyty: Check
michaeld18: Bet $100
noiq3442615: Call $100
Trunte11: Fold
tytyIWINtyty: Fold
*** TURN *** [S8 H3 C4 S5]
noiq3442615: Check
michaeld18: Check
*** RIVER *** [S8 H3 C4 S5 D7]
noiq3442615: Bet $620
michaeld18: Allin $418.5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
noiq3442615: shows [C2 C6] (Straight)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [SJ HJ] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1375.5 Rake $3
noiq3442615: wins $1375.5

3-bet preflop sometimes. Total calling station stuff on the river.

GAME #532959472: NLH $10/$20 (2 max) - 2007-04-21 04:47:21
Table Tulsa (Heads Up)

Seat 3: cbnzzz ($2228 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($595.35 in chips)

cbnzzz: SB $10
michaeld18: BB $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [D10 HK]
cbnzzz: Raise $60
michaeld18: Allin $575.35
cbnzzz: Call $525.35
*** FLOP *** [D4 H2 C8]
*** TURN *** [D4 H2 C8 SQ]
*** RIVER *** [D4 H2 C8 SQ CK]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbnzzz: shows (mucked) [CJ SA] (None)
michaeld18: shows [D10 HK] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1189.7 Rake $1
michaeld18: wins $1189.7

Shudder

GAME #535815565: NLH No DP 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 18:49:38
Table Ordes (No DP)

Seat 1: michaeld18 ($892.19 in chips)
Seat 3: cuspide ($1051.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BlowYaMind ($2925 in chips)
Seat 8: D.Jerkov ($1734 in chips)
Seat 10: Lichad ($1317 in chips)

cuspide: SB $5
BlowYaMind: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [CK HJ]
D.Jerkov: Raise $40
Lichad: Fold
michaeld18: Call $40
cuspide: Fold
BlowYaMind: Fold
*** FLOP *** [D5 H3 SJ]
D.Jerkov: Bet $80
michaeld18: Raise $250
D.Jerkov: Allin $1614
michaeld18: Allin $602.19
*** TURN *** [D5 H3 SJ C8]
*** RIVER *** [D5 H3 SJ C8 S6]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michaeld18: shows [CK HJ] (Pair)
D.Jerkov: shows [CQ HA] (None)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2638.19 Rake $3
michaeld18: wins $1796.38
D.Jerkov: wins $841.81

Dreadful preflop. Postflop - meh

GAME #535357222: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 03:19:31
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($3333.25 in chips)
Seat 3: OhNoes ($195 in chips)
Seat 5: littlespoon ($975 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1376 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($716.61 in chips)
Seat 10: igor44 ($4874 in chips)

littlespoon: SB $5
SirBustaLot: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [CQ CJ]
michaeld18: Call $10
igor44: Fold
cbnzzz: Raise $50
OhNoes: Fold
littlespoon: Fold
SirBustaLot: Fold
michaeld18: Call $40
*** FLOP *** [D6 SJ S9]
michaeld18: Check
cbnzzz: Bet $70
michaeld18: Raise $200
cbnzzz: Allin $3213.25
michaeld18: Allin $466.61
*** TURN *** [D6 SJ S9 C7]
*** RIVER *** [D6 SJ S9 C7 HQ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbnzzz: shows [HK CK] (Pair)
michaeld18: shows [CQ CJ] (Two pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4061.86 Rake $3
cbnzzz: wins $2616.64
michaeld18: wins $1445.22

Unbelievably bad pre and postflop.

GAME #535342136: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 02:19:55
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($1799 in chips)
Seat 3: Battigol ($744.12 in chips)
Seat 5: jimmyb1515 ($1240.5 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1137 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($1185.75 in chips)
Seat 10: igor44 ($4624 in chips)

cbnzzz: SB $5
Battigol: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [S10 SQ]
jimmyb1515: Fold
SirBustaLot: Fold
michaeld18: Raise $30
igor44: Fold
cbnzzz: Raise $110
Battigol: Fold
michaeld18: Call $85
*** FLOP *** [D3 D10 D7]
cbnzzz: Bet $170
michaeld18: Raise $520
cbnzzz: Allin $1514
michaeld18: Allin $550.75
*** TURN *** [D3 D10 D7 HA]
*** RIVER *** [D3 D10 D7 HA C8]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbnzzz: shows [DK HK] (Pair)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [S10 SQ] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2991.75 Rake $3
cbnzzz: wins $2991.75

The trend continues...

GAME #535364373: NLH 5/10 x6 - 2007-04-24 03:55:11
Table Christchurch

Seat 1: cbnzzz ($2734.64 in chips)
Seat 5: littlespoon ($1089.5 in chips)
Seat 6: SirBustaLot ($1089.75 in chips)
Seat 8: michaeld18 ($1463.47 in chips)

SirBustaLot: SB $5
michaeld18: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [C8 D7]
cbnzzz: Fold
littlespoon: Fold
SirBustaLot: Raise $30
michaeld18: Call $25
*** FLOP *** [H7 D3 C4]
SirBustaLot: Bet $50
michaeld18: Call $50
*** TURN *** [H7 D3 C4 S6]
SirBustaLot: Bet $110
michaeld18: Call $110
*** RIVER *** [H7 D3 C4 S6 H9]
SirBustaLot: Bet $260
michaeld18: Call $260
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SirBustaLot: shows [D6 H6] (Three of a kind)
michaeld18: shows (mucked) [C8 D7] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $908 Rake $2
SirBustaLot: wins $908

Hate preflop. River is an easy fold.

dougee19

a-10 one was he just sat down, and wasnt letting him take my 40,

dougee19

all streets comments on the

jj hand
j7 hand
9-10 hand
and jk hand
also, any players that have played with me live before or online, ever think this was like me? lol
thought i'd finally reveal my secrets

Flushdraw

dougee19 wrote:

a-10 one was he just sat down, and wasnt letting him take my 40,

Defo a winning strategy in the long run...

dougee19

hehe, yup.....
plus i hate playing with short stacks, id rather just go all in and gamble when they come than me making raises to steal with **** and them pushing taking my 30/40 everytime, would rather just go 50/50 for the 200 straight away, if i win im up 200, if i lose, at least he wont keep pushing

plus as u might have noticed, i like to gamble!!!!

5starpool

Out of curiousity, did you work your way up the levels or where did you start playing? How much is your bankroll?

dougee19

5starpool wrote:

Out of curiousity, did you work your way up the levels or where did you start playing? How much is your bankroll?

worked my way up from €1 sng on good old irish eyes.....
also, won a tournament to start off with, then won a lot in live cash games, when i started online i was a losing player, took a few months off to realise what i was doing wrong and have been a winning player ever since...
bankrolls is about 30/40k

Ste05

5starpool wrote:

Out of curiousity, did you work your way up the levels or where did you start playing? How much is your bankroll?

Yeah, I'd love to know this too. It would help with the type of analysis needed on these hands. e.g. is there a need to talk about basics, such as why not to call raises with KJo and why it's not a good idea to get AI Pre-flop with 62o

I also agree with everything Ian said,

dougee19

to gambooool, thats why
table image!!! plus refer to my short stack comments, hate them!!!

5starpool

Looks like you are a very 'emotions' based player and gut feeling plays a big part. This can be good at times as others such as Robin Lacey has said this is a big part of their game too, but I can't see Robin or any others getting a big lump in with 62o, even if you view it as two flush draws.........

phantom_lord

??

digiman

5starpool wrote:

even if you view it as two flush draws.........

Thats priceless, never though of it that way before myself!!!

Lazare

dougee19 wrote:

took a few months off to realise what i was doing wrong and have been a winning player ever since...

Dougee, first off, I admire you for posting HH's that you had to be sure were going to cause a bit of a commotion here.

You said upthread that you make these sort of mistakes all the time, limp calling OOP, playing multi way hands heads up etc.. etc.., leaks that most players would identify while analysing their play. How did you not spot these basic errors when you took those few months off?

dougee19

Seat 1: Egabrense ($1196 in chips)
Seat 2: DISTILLERY ($1362 in chips)
Seat 3: johndamien ($979.01 in chips)
Seat 4: ebisumaru1 ($965 in chips)
Seat 5: michaeld18 ($547 in chips)
Seat 6: knugge ($670 in chips)

Egabrense: SB $5
DISTILLERY: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [D5 D3]
johndamien: Call $10
ebisumaru1: Call $10
michaeld18: Call $10
knugge: Raise $40
Egabrense: Fold
DISTILLERY: Fold
johndamien: Call $30
ebisumaru1: Call $30
michaeld18: Call $30
*** FLOP *** [H3 S9 H4]
johndamien: Check
ebisumaru1: Check
michaeld18: Check
knugge: Check
*** TURN *** [H3 S9 H4 S6]
johndamien: Check
ebisumaru1: Check
michaeld18: Bet $100
knugge: Call $100
johndamien: Call $100
ebisumaru1: Fold
*** RIVER *** [H3 S9 H4 S6 DJ]
johndamien: Check
michaeld18: Bet $280
knugge: Fold
johndamien: Call $280
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michaeld18: shows [D3 D3] (Pair)
johndamien: shows [D2 C9] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1032 Rake $3
johndamien: wins $1032



i mean this, this guy is worse than all of my plays put together, he was pulled off a lot of suckouts against me already tonight, all in preflop i have 66 he calls with k-8. $500 pot, gets involved in a 2134 with a2 suited, because they were suited!!!!
check out jinotega right now, pp..... this is insane

dougee19

Lazare wrote:

Dougee, first off, I admire you for posting HH's that you had to be sure were going to cause a bit of a commotion here.

You said upthread that you make these sort of mistakes all the time, limp calling OOP, playing multi way hands heads up etc.. etc.., leaks that most players would identify while analysing their play. How did you not spot these basic errors when you took those few months off?

i knew id get commotion, but was wondering what the reaction would be too, as to see how ridiculous of plays they were, not as bad as the guy who's destorying me now, lol.....

dougee19

35, bad bet?

5starpool

dougee19 wrote:

Seat 1: Egabrense ($1196 in chips)
Seat 2: DISTILLERY ($1362 in chips)
Seat 3: johndamien ($979.01 in chips)
Seat 4: ebisumaru1 ($965 in chips)
Seat 5: michaeld18 ($547 in chips)
Seat 6: knugge ($670 in chips)

Egabrense: SB $5
DISTILLERY: BB $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michaeld18 [D5 D3]
johndamien: Call $10
ebisumaru1: Call $10
michaeld18: Call $10
knugge: Raise $40
Egabrense: Fold
DISTILLERY: Fold
johndamien: Call $30
ebisumaru1: Call $30
michaeld18: Call $30
*** FLOP *** [H3 S9 H4]
johndamien: Check
ebisumaru1: Check
michaeld18: Check
knugge: Check
*** TURN *** [H3 S9 H4 S6]
johndamien: Check
ebisumaru1: Check
michaeld18: Bet $100
knugge: Call $100
johndamien: Call $100
ebisumaru1: Fold
*** RIVER *** [H3 S9 H4 S6 DJ]
johndamien: Check
michaeld18: Bet $280
knugge: Fold
johndamien: Call $280
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michaeld18: shows [D3 D3] (Pair)
johndamien: shows [D2 C9] (Pair)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1032 Rake $3
johndamien: wins $1032



i mean this, this guy is worse than all of my plays put together, he was pulled off a lot of suckouts against me already tonight, all in preflop i have 66 he calls with k-8. $500 pot, gets involved in a 2134 with a2 suited, because they were suited!!!!
check out jinotega right now, pp..... this is insane

However mad his play might seem, it is better than yours in this hand, especially if you know you cannot knock him off a hand, then betting with bottom pair, no kicker isn't very clever.

Also, he may have a specific reason for playing against you that way.

dougee19

ive never played the guy before, plus he's doing it to everyone

Goodluck2me

it seems to me that a good player would kill this game. 3 limpers pre flop?

I think this is one of the few times that Marq could say "move down levels"

bops

5starpool wrote:

Also, he may have a specific reason for playing against you that way.

yep, it looks like they are lining up to take you out - i guess your table image isn't that tight??

dougee19

i was watching the table before i sat down, and noticed they were crazy, was going to leave but there were very long waiting lists on the other tables....
there is a raise in at least 5/6 hands, honestly....
most aggressive table ive played on pp.... down 2k so far,
not playing great or horrible, just blinded away a lot, and when i make a play, they call!!!! and i miss(ak 2 callers, flop 10-9 rag, bet raise, me folding)

phantom_lord

bottom of the waiting list

dougee19

watch the table while waiting, they are insane, some of these hands should be posted, he called 111 preflop with a2, in sb, with 4 players

dougee19

i went virtually bust, ak vs 6s preflop, oops

Flushdraw

Dougee,

Playing 1/2 PL doesn't suit you, move up levels, this is boring!

Lafortezza

dougee, do you play PLO at all?

Do you use PT?