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  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    I verified my Wirecard account long ago but can someone clarify for me what the limits are for depositing funds these days? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    If It's verified, I think it's 100 million a year or something ridiculous, I think it's still 300 per week through CC no matter what though? I hope they would have told us if anything had changed?..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    lol if you have the money to deposit 100 million per year why the hell would you be using a prepaid credit card :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    Help... Any body got wire card to work with PSN (playstaion network)? What address did you use ?
    And in general what address do you use for wirecard? (home,fake, the bank istself)???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭EyesOnly


    Help... Any body got wire card to work with PSN (playstaion network)? What address did you use ?
    And in general what address do you use for wirecard? (home,fake, the bank istself)???

    Use your real address for wirecard, why use a fake??? It'll only cause problems on some sites where they only deliver to the card holders address.

    P.S i added my BOI account to the Banks thing on wirecard and got my IBAN in 2 days :D, The most i've sent so far via IBAN is 1200


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Mr Burns


    Is the local account in Dublin still working?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    EyesOnly wrote: »
    Use your real address for wirecard, why use a fake??? It'll only cause problems on some sites where they only deliver to the card holders address.

    P.S i added my BOI account to the Banks thing on wirecard and got my IBAN in 2 days :D, The most i've sent so far via IBAN is 1200

    Im using my address, i think its because its and international credit card. If any one else has this problem with PSN please let me know here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    I'm a little confused and can't exactly read the full 53 pages. I understand the maximum deposit amount using credit cards is 300 euro, whats the maximum deposit amount (if any) using wire transfer? The FAQ tbh is confusing and email support doesn't respond. Thanks.

    EDIT: No worries found the answer on page 50, wirecard ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    timmy69 wrote: »
    I'm a little confused and can't exactly read the full 53 pages. I understand the maximum deposit amount using credit cards is 300 euro, whats the maximum deposit amount (if any) using wire transfer? The FAQ tbh is confusing and email support doesn't respond. Thanks.

    EDIT: No worries found the answer on page 50, wirecard ftw.

    It's 2,500 before verifying your account and then something like 100 million per year after, right? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    correct.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    Thats odd :confused: support got back today and seem to be saying something else:

    Thank you for contacting the Wirecard Service Team.

    Unfortunately we must inform you that you have indeed exceeded your weekly funding limit of EUR 300,00 with the deposit you have actioned.

    Please be aware that we have not yet receieved your funds so if there is a chance still that you may reverse the transaction, please feel free to do soif necessary.

    As a German bank the Wirecard Bank is obligated by legal requirements to havefull identification of the account holder after this limit has been reached.

    Therefore please find attached the application form for a Wirecard account.

    Please print, fill out and sign it and include a certified* copy of yourpassport or, alternatively, a certified* copy of your driver’s license or IDcard as well as two utility bills showing your name and current address in your letter.

    Then please send the full documentation via postal mail to:

    Wirecard Bank AGWirecardPostfach 31 05 4404163 LeipzigGermany

    Please note the following:
    - The Terms of Service are for your private folders. You do not have to sendthem back to us.
    - * The certification of your ID document should be conducted in accordancewith the attached document “Passport Certification Process”.
    This documentalso contains a list of accepted “certifiers”. Once we have received and verified your documents we will increase the limitsfor your Wirecard account.

    Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you have any furtherquestions. Should you have further questions about the information given above, pleasereply directly to this email, including our original text and ticket number.This will help us to deal with your inquiry much faster.

    Kind regards Andrew RyanWirecard Service Team **********************************************************************For further assistance please contact our Service Team. Website: [url]www.mywirecard.comE-mail:[/url] service@wirecard.comTelephone: +49 (0)1805 947322*Fax: +49 (0)1805 947323* Wirecard Bank AGBretonischer Ring 485630 GrasbrunnGermany Commercial Register of the Amtsgericht (Local Court) MünchenRegisternummer: HRB 161178 Executive Board: Franz Brücklmeier, Burkhard Ley, Rainer WexelerSupervisory Board: Wulf Matthias (Chairman) * This is a toll call; you will be charged long distance fees by your longdistance carrier for dialling this number.**********************************************************************Please note: Wirecard Bank will never ask you via e-mail to disclose yourlogin details on the Internet or to disclose or confirm your login details via telephone or fax. DISCLAIMER:This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intendedsolely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Ifyou have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. Warning: Although the company has taken reasonable precautions toensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot acceptresponsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email orattachments.

    > Hi,> > I just transferred 580 euro to my wirecard account, I hope there is no deposit> limit on the account. If there is how can i cancel this ASAP?> >

    username: xxxxxxxxxxx

    :confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭EyesOnly


    The account limit is 2500 the deposit limit is 300 if you havent sent the paperwork to take the limits off. Timmy how did you send it? IBAN or CC ? if you sent by creditcard ring them and cancel, if its IBAN i dont think you can ???????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    EyesOnly wrote: »
    The account limit is 2500 the deposit limit is 300 if you havent sent the paperwork to take the limits off. Timmy how did you send it? IBAN or CC ? if you sent by creditcard ring them and cancel, if its IBAN i dont think you can ???????

    I sent it by IBAN, think im fecked :confused:


  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    I thought you didn't need to be verified as long as you filled in the "your bank account" details section on the website. Did you do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    I thought you didn't need to be verified as long as you filled in the "your bank account" details section on the website. Did you do this?

    did indeed.


  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    crikey. Anyhow I verified a long time ago and it's a lot easier than it looks. You may have no other choice to get your funds back. Maybe the IBAN will be returned to you after a certain amount of time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Nope. They won't do that. The money will simply sit in a holding account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    cormie wrote: »
    I still stand by Wirecard. It's great for me. If you use the AIB International transfer with IBAN etc you shouldn't have a problem. The funds may take a while to show up but they will show up if you gave all the correct info.

    Nico, you can only deposit €300 per week with Credit Card, but you can deposit an unlimited amount with Wire transfer if your account is verified, if it isn't verified you can deposit whatever remains of your €2,500 limit before verification, so if you just opened your account, you can deposit €2,500 in one go but once that's gone, you need to verify your account.

    I thought i could deposit 2500 in one go :confused: i only did 580.


  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    I think there's a weekly limit of €300.....

    *edit* just checked back in the thread and there's different people saying different things regarding the limits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    Nope. They won't do that. The money will simply sit in a holding account.

    do you know anything more about this? will i have to recall the amount above 300 or the whole amount?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    As far as I know you can deposit 2,500 in one go (and total) before verifying, but you can't deposit 2,001 one day and then 501 the next day as this will exceed the 2,500 limit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    timmy69 wrote: »
    I thought i could deposit 2500 in one go :confused: i only did 580.
    They keep moving the goalposts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    cormie wrote: »
    As far as I know you can deposit 2,500 in one go (and total) before verifying, but you can't deposit 2,001 one day and then 501 the next day as this will exceed the 2,500 limit.

    I only wanted to deposit 580 in one go, and thought it wouldn't be a problem, why should it be tbh when im doing it through IBAN, have entered my bank account details on their website and used only the same bank account in the past for smaller amounts (20 and 25). Any how I'll let every one know the outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    Full amount of 579 EURO arrived in my wirecard account this morning (not 10 pm last night for some reason) and spent already :P wirecard ftw! I would recommend signing up for their sms service also on their website, as i got a text as soon as the money was in (10.34 am).

    Date Posting information Status Credited Charged
    Show Details 7/24/08 Wire Transfer MR XXXXXX 579.00 EUR


    I would have to now assume their support meant depositing money through the credit card (such ambiguity), so IBAN transfers seem to be good to go for higher amounts than 300.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Excellent work. :)


  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    timmy69 wrote: »
    Full amount of 579 EURO arrived in my wirecard account this morning (not 10 pm last night for some reason) and spent already :P wirecard ftw! I would recommend signing up for their sms service also on their website, as i got a text as soon as the money was in (10.34 am).

    Date Posting information Status Credited Charged
    Show Details 7/24/08 Wire Transfer MR XXXXXX 579.00 EUR


    I would have to now assume their support meant depositing money through the credit card (such ambiguity), so IBAN transfers seem to be good to go for higher amounts than 300.

    Hang on I thought you got an email from support saying you needed to verify? So that was wrong and the money came through anyway? Oh and what sms service? I didn't see that on the website...........


  • Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭ Paul Savory Ax


    Found the sms thing hidden away in "My Profile"....how long has that been there? It's 0.25Euro a month apparently....does this come off your wirecard balance or is it charged to your phone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭timmy69


    Found the sms thing hidden away in "My Profile"....how long has that been there? It's 0.25Euro a month apparently....does this come off your wirecard balance or is it charged to your phone?

    "What does the service cost?
    This service costs 0.25 EUR (0.30 USD/0.40 CHF) per month on all mobile networks and is invoiced immediately after activation via your Wirecard account and displayed in your transaction overview. When you activate the SMS service "deposit notification" for the first time, the first month is free for you. The activation and deactivation of the service is free of charge. The weekly accounting period counts from the day of activation."

    First month free :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 timwalker82


    lol if you have the money to deposit 100 million per year why the hell would you be using a prepaid credit card :p
    You sould be asking why anybody, regardless of their financial position would want to use a pre paid cc, since you live in Ireland, that is easy to answer, the Lazer card can't be used internationally. Since the rest of europe has several debit card solutions that work internationally you would feel that people with at least a £1000 per month income would not need to use a pre paid cc, since they can easily obtain a debit card. Well, that assumption is niave since pre paid cc are a fantastic tool to the habitual money launderer, (yoou need to get your head out of Ireland, who's criminal fraturnity still think jump overs and granny snatches is the easiest way to steal money, sidney gotfred, did and look where it got him.) you see in the UK, you can buy a prepaid card called prime card (idtprime.com), you then log onto their site, and register, you put in your name and billing address (which can be any name and address you want, as long as it is a valid UK address), you get the drift, you can choose your billing address, ohhhhhm that's so open to abuse it's scandaless (lol, that word sould be changed to scandalfull). So imagine you rob a granny of her pension (E200 or rob E2.55M from O.Connors jewellers) and you want to launder it, you find a poker site with a lax security site (anything on the microgaming or cyrptologic poker network sould do, but avoid 888 at all costs, cuz if caught, they will keep your money, the others will do an investigation into where the money is coming from, but will give you the funds providing a third party dosen't lay claim to the funds). You then open an account in your own name (as you want to turn the stolen money into legal traceable money that you can declare) and deposit, lets say £1000, you then open up another account, and deposit as much as you want using the pre paid card, which is in a differant name and address, cuz you choose a differant address, you then sit down at the same table with these 2 accounts and lose the illegal money into your account. The best way to do this is by opening loads of accounts and depositing amounts just less than £500 and losing them through the heads up sit and go tournaments, if done properly (I.e. don't pass the funds by betting 99% of your stack and then folding to a £1 re-raise on a cash table, as your account will be flagged for the review team to have a look, and then S.O.C.A will be dragging you out of bed), regardless of how much they suspect you of money laundering, it is impossible to prove, and also, the sit and go tournaments don't have the security bot studying your every move, to see if u folding aces to an all in raise when all five com cards have been dealt and the board reads A A 8 5 2 is warrented. You see, the bots main priority is collusion with the intension of cheating not money laundering, since heads up are 2 people, it is impossible to cheat online heads up, so good luck.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 timwalker82


    Hang on I thought you got an email from support saying you needed to verify? So that was wrong and the money came through anyway? Oh and what sms service? I didn't see that on the website...........
    The reason for that is that an IBAN transfer requires the banks clearing house to manually authorize the transaction so the transaction is fully processed and completed which eliminates charge backs. When you purchase something with a card, the merchant gives you credit, they don't recieve payment until the your financial institute manually authorizes the payment (about 1 mounth). So, let's say you make an online purchase for £1000, and then dispute the payment with your bank when your bill comes in, your bank makes a charge back to the merchant, and since they haven't received the payment yet, they are fuycked. So when high transactions are processed, they want a cc authorization agreement from you, which means you can't dispute the payment, because you have signed a credit agreement, which is legally binding, make sense?


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