The uselessness of the gardai

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Kaiser2000 wrote:

Oh alright.. to all those who are asking for evidence, here's a post I made in another thread last year (page 3 onwards)...



I'd be VERY interested to see people try to explain that one to me??

don't bother, your dealing with people who want you to post a link to the light of day....otherwise the wont believe its time to get up. and by the sounds of some of the posts, its getting up to school most will be doing, but that only if you can post a link
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

humanji

\m/_(>_<)_\m/ wrote:

don't bother, your dealing with people who want you to post a link to the light of day....otherwise the wont believe its time to get up. and by the sounds of some of the posts, its getting up to school most will be doing, but that only if you can post a link
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This coming from someone who went off in a huff because they didn't get their own way? No amount of :rolleyes:'s can express my disdain for everything you've said, and no doubt will say. Try reading Deliverance's post and you might, just might realise that what people here are trying to say is that there are good in bad apples in everything. You can tar them all just because you want to stick it to the man.

event

Kaiser2000 wrote:

EDIT: However, as has already been said, there's more than enough "evidence" printed/shown in our media to highlight that there IS a problem in the force and burying your head in the sand while attacking people who try to highlight this isn't gonna solve that.

yet you could only show 4 examples in the last few years

lemansky

event wrote:

yet you could only show 4 examples in the last few years

Thanks!SOmebody at last points this out!People think that the only things the Gardai do are the things that we hear about on the news,good and bad.I would agree that for a force that size 4 incidents in the last few years hardly represents a problem.Its not really indicative of the alleged widespread corruption.I believe the (paraphrased!)phrase it only takes a few bad families to ruin an area is one used here.Surely its also applicable to the Gardai-a few bad eggs...

Slippin Jimmy

lemansky wrote:

Thanks!SOmebody at last points this out!People think that the only things the Gardai do are the things that we hear about on the news,good and bad.I would agree that for a force that size 4 incidents in the last few years hardly represents a problem.Its not really indicative of the alleged widespread corruption.I believe the (paraphrased!)phrase it only takes a few bad families to ruin an area is one used here.Surely its also applicable to the Gardai-a few bad eggs...

Well said. The gardai are not as bad as some people make out. Fair enough, some of them may be not willing to do their job, and are corrupt, but this can only be a very small minority. We cannot say that they are completely useless..... welll because they aren't. If we didn't have them there's no way I would sleep easy at night. The majority of them do their job to the best of their ability, some people may say that it isn't good enough, but im sure if you were in their shoes you would know how it is. People think that the guards are out to get them over silly things, they're not. If you do something, that you shouldn't, well then you deserve what you get. If it is a minor micky mouse offence, they generally will give you a warning and that will be that.

Bazookatone

Hagar wrote:

I think the Gardaí are dis-illusioned. They brought a rapist to trial, secured a conviction and the Judge gave out a three year suspended sentence. Why should they bother their arse? They get no support from the judiciary and there is nowhere to put criminals when they are convicted. Why risk getting you head busted for an unsupportive public? Would you?

Nobody else gives a damn, or so it seems, why should they?
/Edited for Typos

I agree. I think the key to combating violent crime and anti social behaviour lies with the judiciary. Sentences for crimes should be harsher, executed more quickly and with less beaurocracy. I think criminals should be brought swiftly to trial, and that Judges should not accept time wasting tactics on the side of the Prosecution OR the Defence.

I think nuisance lawsuits should be summarily dismissed, and that judges do so with exrteme prejudice.

I also think the CAB should be given more power to sieze the assets of minor criminals to repay their victims. Habitual criminals should have their assets seized and ALL their state benefits (dole, housing) cut off. I think the families of habitual criminals should be charged as accessories to their crimes.

Finally, I think that the citizenry should be allowed to use force to protect themselves and PREVENT crime, and that they should be immune to lawsuits from people who have a criminal background should they be injured.

I think a lot of money needs to be invested in prison reform, that prisoners who are unstable recieve treatment, and that training be given to those that want it.

I think if some (or all) of these steps were taken, the Gardaí would feel like they were actually making a difference, and the morale of the force would increase.