50/50 chance of winning over €700 - Absolutely risk free!

eirebhoy

I don't usually post free bet offers as there's hundreds of them out their but I thought this one was excellent which I certainly won't refuse.

Open an account with Mansion.com and deposit €850. Go to the Sportsbook (not Sports Exchange) and click American football on the side menu. Click NFL and then Games. You'll see on Fri 8 September (GMT) There's a match between Miami Dolphins and Pittsburgh Steelers. It's handicap betting with Pittsburgh having to win by more than 5 pts.

Put the €850 (it has to be every penny of €850) on Pittsburgh Steelers to win. If they win you get €1,623 which you can withdraw straight away. If they lose you'll get your €850 which you can withdraw straight away. Either way you'll have every penny of your money back by about September 11th and hopefully you'll have an extra €773!

I'd appreciate if you'd use my affliate link as I then get free money from anyone that registers:
http://www.mansion.com/?trackid=104741
(There's a banner on the front page with the T&C. Trust me, there's no catches)

TERMS & CONDITIONS

This offer applies to bets placed on MANSION Sportsbook only and is limited to the team and selection specified. Bets placed on MANSION Sports Exchange will not qualify.

To qualify, Players must place a single Points Spread (Handicap) bet of USD 1,100 on Pittsburgh Steelers for their game on 7 Sep 2006

This offer is only available on the first bet placed for this event

To qualify for this promotion you must be 18 years of age or over and have agreed to the MANSION terms & conditions.

The promotion is valid from 25 Aug 2006.

All refunds will be placed into Member accounts within 3 working days of the result.

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MANSION reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time without prior notice.

All decisions made by MANSION regarding this promotion shall be deemed final.

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Offer is valid for limited time period only.

Players that bet both sides of the event with MANSION will not be eligible for a loss refund.

Hopefully there'll be a few of us on here in the early hours of Friday morning cheering on the Steelers!

Chucky the tree

Great offer. I'd definitly do it if had 850 to deposit.

Steelers certainly could win by 5 aswell.

whatsupdoc?

USD 1,100

Good idea but there will be a exchange rate conversion loss if the bet loses and you get your money back as you will have to firstly buy 1,100 Usd and then convert them back to Euro when you get your refund.

I've never heard of them but I would suggest using a credit card to fund the bet as if it all goes pear shaped (and I'm not suggesting it will) but the credit card company will be able to refund you.

eirebhoy

whatsupdoc? wrote:

Good idea but there will be a exchange rate conversion loss if the bet loses and you get your money back as you will have to firstly buy 1,100 Usd and then convert them back to Euro when you get your refund.

When you set up your Mansion account just choose Euro as currency. They have a chart for this offer on their site:

eirebhoy

Here's a transcript of my chat with customer care for any doubters:

Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:54:21 PM (8/26/2006 5:54:21 PM - GMT)

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Welcome to Chat.Mansion.Com, MANSION Marije will be right with you.

MANSION Marije:
RE: , I'm just wondering if I was to take up the $1,100 Pittsburgh Steelers offer can I withdraw all my funds from my account whether the bet wins or loses?

MANSION Marije:
Hi there

eirebhoy:
Hi

MANSION Marije:
Yes you can

eirebhoy:
Why are Mansion doing this deal if they can't win from it? Are they a sponsor of either team?

MANSION Marije:
No, but we are trying to draw some attention to the opening of the NFL season

eirebhoy:
OK, so if I lose my $1,100 I can have it back in my bank account within a few days of the match?

MANSION Marije:
Yes

eirebhoy:
without any wagering requirements?

eirebhoy:
just to be sure

eirebhoy:
?

MANSION Marije:
Yes

MANSION Marije:
No strings attached

eirebhoy:
Cheers, appreciate the service

Visitor eirebhoy has ended the chat

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Mansion have a B rating on this site:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Ratings+on+over+400+Sportsbooks+/default.aspx

Which means they're in the top 10% online bookmakers (same rating as Paddy Powers).

whatsupdoc?

10% online bookmakers (same rating as Paddy Powers).

That's a good recommendation

okidoki987

The withdrawal of any promotion funds will be subject to MANSION withdrawal policy.

Which is/are?
Don't want to have to bet the refund before they pay you or some silly rule like that?

eirebhoy

okidoki987 wrote:

Which is/are?
Don't want to have to bet the refund before they pay you or some silly rule like that?

If you look at the transcript I asked are there wagering requirements and she said no, no strings attached. The withdrawal policy is that you have to e-mail them with a scan of your passport/drivers licence before you can withdraw. I tried to withdraw for the 1st time last night but I had to e-mail my passport first. It then takes up to 3 working days for that to be verified.

Rudolph Claus

I think ill try this.
Can i just literally sign up as a new user, place bet, win or breakeven and then close the account?

MiniMetro

Is this the right bet being placed?

eirebhoy

Nuttzy wrote:

I think ill try this.
Can i just literally sign up as a new user, place bet, win or breakeven and then close the account?

Yep.

MiniMetro wrote:

Is this the right bet being placed?

That's it yeah.

StephenInsane

Seems a bit dodge. I'll keep my money in my pocket.

eirebhoy

StephenInsane wrote:

Seems a bit dodge. I'll keep my money in my pocket.

Whats dodgy? Have you read the whole thread? This is knew bookmakers but they're hardly going to do a scam on their customers. They had a similar deal to this last week on the Bolton-Spurs match because they're the knew Spurs sponsor. They've already told me there's no strings attached. There's no way they're going to tell me this and then suddenly not give the money back.


btw - They paid Spurs $102m for a 4 year sponsorship deal. They're investing big.
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_732653-01.jpg

Chucky the tree

I certainly believe this deal will be true. They are a new company who have put alot of money into trying to gt there name out the, sponsoring spurs for example, there's no chance would try and shaft of people on this as they know the bad press would ruin them.

Beecause its Mansion i would definitly take the offer.

eirebhoy

Chucky the tree wrote:

I certainly believe this deal will be true. They are a new company who have put alot of money into trying to gt there name out the, sponsoring spurs for example, there's no chance would try and shaft of people on this as they know the bad press would ruin them.

Beecause its Mansion i would definitly take the offer.

Another sponsorship deal here:

"2006 Marks a significant year for the next step in building the MANSION brand worldwide. MANSION recently announced a £60m deal with FOX Sports Network in the USA. The deal will see FOX produce the MANSION Poker Dome weekly live poker tournament series and the MANSION Poker $60M Mega-Event – an annual event offering the largest single prize in sports history in a winner-takes-all televised poker game."

http://www.bookiealerts.com/freebets/mansion.aspx

Definitely trustworthy.

okidoki987

http://www.bookielabrat.com/mansion_bookmaker_review.html

GOOD REVIEW INCLUDING details on the same bet
(other review sites have the same details)

http://www.paulaura.com/bookies.htm

Poor marks here if you plan on staying with them.

I was going to look at doing this bet UNTIL I had a look at the following

Note to credit card depositors:
MANSION account policies limit the maximum amount that may be deposited via credit card within the first 90 days of opening your MANSION Member Account.

If you are opening a new account and intend to deposit via credit card you need to be aware of the deposit restrictions. We recommend that you consider one of our alternative deposit methods including Bank Wire, NETeller, Firepay, Moneybookers or Eco card.

http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/u/url/betting-odds-info!bookmakers,php

Go to Deposit methods and Charges
Look at Mansion at the bottom and look at the difference between them and all the others bookies when deposting by credit card :eek:
£250 (if your account has been open for under 90 days)
£2000 (if your account has been open for 90-210 days)
£4000 (if your account has been open for 210+ days)

So this means if you want to place the bet for 850 Euro you will have to use
Bank Wire, NETeller, Firepay, Moneybookers or Eco card or you can only place 250 (unless your account has been opened for more than 90 days).
If I am going to place 850 Euro I want some form of comfort in case of problems and Credit Card offers that.

On the surface it looks okay but the cc limit of 250 makes me question it.

eirebhoy
Any thoughts?

okidoki987

http://www.bookielabrat.com/mansion_bookmaker_review.html

Security and Reputation

eirebhoy

Yeah, I just found out about that CC limit. Seems a bit strange. I suppose Neteller/Gamebookers is the only option but they charge fee's so you're not exactly getting a free bet then.

eirebhoy

I've had a look and I think MoneyBookers is the cheapest option. They charge 2.5% to deposit from Visa and Mastercard, free if you have Laser. That's just over €20 for a €850 deposit. To withdraw back to Visa it's €1.80 or €3.50 back to your bank account. All in all, I think it's worth it.

whatsupdoc?

I agree with eirebhoy that it's worth it but I'm a bit surprised there is a limit of 250 on the cc which is very strange. Normally bookies will offer a "free" bet up to 50 Euro but I've never ever seen a "free" bet of this size before and this also makes me a little suspicious.
If the bet goes against them, they will lose millions.
If the bet goes with them, they will break even.
There's no reason why they need to offer a 1,100 USD "free" bet,
or am I missing something.

eirebhoy

whatsupdoc? wrote:

I agree with eirebhoy that it's worth it but I'm a bit surprised there is a limit of 250 on the cc which is very strange. Normally bookies will offer a "free" bet up to 50 Euro but I've never ever seen a "free" bet of this size before and this also makes me a little suspicious.
If the bet goes against them, they will lose millions.
If the bet goes with them, they will break even.
There's no reason why they need to offer a 1,100 USD "free" bet,
or am I missing something.

I don't know the reason but I wouldn't worry about it. I can't see how this deal is anything but genuine.

Here's the link to chat if you have any questions:
http://85.159.120.6/SightMaxAgentInterface/PreChatSurvey.aspx?accountID=1&siteID=1&queueID=2

I asked about the limit:
"The reason the limits are so low is due to the amount of fraud happening with credit cards in the world at the moment."

"This is why when a player has been with us for longer and we can see a steady flow of deposits and withdrawal we up the limits"

"This is a decision taken by our finance department so I only have limited information on it I am afraid"

daveirl

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Tar.Aldarion

Wish I had 850e...
Seems like a good deal!

whatsupdoc?

The reason the limits are so low is due to the amount of fraud happening with credit cards in the world at the moment."

I can fully understand that

"This is why when a player has been with us for longer and we can see a steady flow of deposits and withdrawal we up the limits"

But surely this "free" bet is to attract new punters?
If they could verify the credit card when the bet is made, surely they could then allow that person to lodge 850 rather than 250?

Do we know how much the Spurs result cost them and does anybody know anyone who collected and withdrew?

The bet is 9/10 so for 850 stake, you stand to win 765.
So you either break even or win 765.
Why not put half the bet on Miami somewhere else so that you are guaranteed to win 382 either way?

eirebhoy

whatsupdoc? wrote:

Do we know how much the Spurs result cost them and does anybody know anyone who collected and withdrew?

Spurs lost so they refunded everyone their stake.

The bet is 9/10 so for 850 stake, you stand to win 765.
So you either break even or win 765.
Why not put half the bet on Miami somewhere else so that you are guaranteed to win 382 either way?

A lot of people have suggested this on other betting forums but I don't think anywhere have Miama's handicap at +5 or higher. I think most places are now -/+4pts in the handicap.

I don't even know anything about NFL. Pittsburgh have lost their 3 pre-season games. Maybe someone could give us a bit of info on the 2 teams?

daveirl

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Chucky the tree

Steelers are Superbowl champions so they certainly have a good chance. However i dont think they will win it this year. I wouldnt pay to much attention to preseason matches. I think the Colts lost all of theirs last season and went on to a 14-2 record. Last season Steelers did get off to a slow start. It was only there end of season form that saw them get a wild card place.

Miami are alot of peoples outside picks to win it this year. I dont think they will win it, but i think they will make the playoffs. steelers have home advantage though in this match so they will be favourites.

However i think Miami will win. Ask on the NFL forum. Get much better advice there.

eirebhoy

Cheers. Hopefully the Pittsburgh players find out about this promotion to give them an extra incentive of giving a load of people free money.

Hopefully Setant show this game as they usually show NASN after midnight.

Chucky the tree

NASN dont have the rights to NFL.

daveirl

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imalegend

ok.Im sold.Sounds great so tell me is moneybookers the way people are going forward to place this bet?

cheers for the headsup eireboy!if this comes off i owe you a pint or 2.

daveirl

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eirebhoy

imalegend wrote:

ok.Im sold.Sounds great so tell me is moneybookers the way people are going forward to place this bet?

cheers for the headsup eireboy!if this comes off i owe you a pint or 2.

Cheers but I'll win enough if they win anyway. Also, I'm getting affliate money from anyone that signs up through my link. I saw the promotion and thought I might aswell set up an affliate account before posting it here. It's one of the best affliate sytems I've seen:



Cheers dave, Sky Sports it is.

shoutman

Nice find on this offer, there isnt any date you have to register before to qualify for the offer is there? Well obvioulsy you cant register after the 8th...

I currently have abou 350 in my poker account so hopefully with some work on this I can boost it near enough to the amount needed then top it up with a credit card payment if needs be....

eirebhoy

shoutman wrote:

Nice find on this offer, there isnt any date you have to register before to qualify for the offer is there? Well obvioulsy you cant register after the 8th...

I actually asked this question on live chat and I wouldn't risk leaving it too late. They have no set date to end the offer and it could end today if they want. For all we know they might have a limit on the amount of people taking up the offer.

whatsupdoc?

How does Moneybookers work?
Is there any comeback with them (and I'm only asking) if something does go wrong?

eirebhoy

Jesus, you're paranoid. Seriously, what can go wrong? There is no way Mansion are going to pull a fast one.

If you're going to set up a moneybookers account you'll need to have online banking as they'll charge a random verification fee onto your CC between €0.01-2.99. You'll have to check your statement online and enter the 3 digit fee in your moneybookers account. You can always wait for a statement in the post but the offer will be closed by then.

okidoki987

Checked with them today, if you want to deposit by Credit Card the limit is 250 GBP or 350 Euro but you can use multiple cards (if you have them) to bring the total up to 850 Euro.
Winnings/Stake will be credited back to Visa but not Mastercard, you have to get a bank transfer.

ronan.h

Hey,
Could I use a bank transfer to fund the Mansion account with €850?
Do you think there'd be any foreign exchange charges?
Probably going to go for it myself!

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Rudolph Claus

Winnings/Stake will be credited back to Visa but not Mastercard, you have to get a bank transfer.

Ive a mastercard, will i lose money on this transfer thing or does it just mean more hassle?

I want to sign up for this bet but am a gambling retard/newbie. Can someone give me a little guide to go about this. Ive a little list outlined below, perhaps ye would be so kind as to fill in some blanks or correct my mistakes.

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1 - Set up and register account
2 - Pay E350 by my mastercard
3 - Pay the rest by money transfer
4 - Where does moneybookers come into this

Hmmm, as ye can see im a newbie. I need a guide

eirebhoy

Nuttzy wrote:

1 - Set up and register account
2 - Pay E350 by my mastercard
3 - Pay the rest by money transfer
4 - Where does moneybookers come into this

Depositing the €350 with your mastercard is fine, as is deposting the other €500 through the bank. A bank transfer would probably take about a week though, there's no guarantee that this promotion will still be running by then.

You can set up a moneybookers account and deposit the €850 to that account from your mastercard. You can then deposit that €850 straight into mansion from moneybookers. The thing with that though is you'll have to verify your moneybookers account as I described earlier so you'll need online banking to get it verified immediately.

eirebhoy

If you want to make a sure bet of it I've found Pinnacle offering odds of 1.787 for Miami +5.5.

Put the €850 on Pittsburgh -4.5 at 1.91 with Mansion.
Put €435 on Miami +5.5 at 1.787 with Pinnacle.
Total bet: €1,285

If Pittsburgh win you get €1623 back which is a profit of €338.
If Miami win you get €777 from that plus your €850 back. A total of €1627 which means a profit of €342.

The odds always change on Pinnacle so that means your bet amount will vary. Either calculate it yourself or just post the odds and ask how much to put on.

okidoki987

Going to do it this morning but the big question do you hedge or not?

Found a link with some spreads on it
http://www.goalservebetting.com/soccer_betting?competitionid=15


eirebhoy
When I clicked on your banner the site come up but theres a "technical problem" on the top of the page, any thoughts?

eirebhoy

I just realised that the handicap is 4.5pts, I forgot it has originally been 5pts so that's obviously better.

My heads in a bit of a mess but could someone tell me if you back Miami +4.5 and Pittsburg -4.5pts it's a sure bet? Obviously it is?

okidoki987

Refreshed it and it looks okay now but when I'm filling the form out it says
referral code
Do I fill anything in here?

jester77

eirebhoy wrote:

I just realised that the handicap is 4.5pts, I forgot it has originally been 5pts so that's obviously better.

My heads in a bit of a mess but could someone tell me if you back Miami +4.5 and Pittsburg -4.5pts it's a sure bet? Obviously it is?

So this means that if Pittsburg win or lose by 4 points or less you win the first bet.
If Miami win by 5 points or more you win the second bet.

What would happen if the game finished a draw? Does that mean you win the first bet?

eirebhoy

Right, so with the handicap on Mansion changing without me copping on it makes things even better.

Put the €850 on Pittsburgh -4.5 at 1.91 with Mansion.
Put €410 on Miami +4.5 at 1.901 with Pinnacle.
Total bet: €1,260

If Pittsburgh win you get €1623 back which is a profit of €363.
If Miami win you get €780 from that plus your €850 back. A total of €1630 which means a profit of €370.

okidoki987 - just leave referral code blank.

jester77 wrote:

What would happen if the game finished a draw?

My head was in knots there but back to normal now. It's handicap betting. If you back Miami at +4.5pts it means they have a 4pt advantage. If the match is a draw then technically Miami win by 4 pts on the handicap. If Pittsburgh win by 5 pts then they've beaten the handicap. The reason it's the half a pt is there is so it can't be a draw.

okidoki987

1/2 points on spreads were brought in so that there were only 2 possible outcomes everytime i.e. no draws.
That's why they are normally 9/10 or if you're unlucky 4/5 each of two.

jester77

Sorry for what might be a dumb question but how does one place a bet on Miami +4.5? Looking at the Pinnacle sight and really confused

Edit: Ah, ok, logged in and it made sense!

eirebhoy

jester77 wrote:

Sorry for what might be a dumb question but how does one place a bet on Miami +4.5? Looking at the Pinnacle sight and really confused

You'll have to register to change the line. The odds are just going to keep going down so I'd advise you get it on now. atm they're 1.862.

Screenshot:

Rudolph Claus

I thought i could just put on my E850 and stand to win E773 on top of getting my E850 back.
Whats all this latest talk of putting on 2 different bets and only coming out with a profit of E350-ish instead of the original E773 i thought i could win?