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  • 26-08-2006 2:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭


    I don't usually post free bet offers as there's hundreds of them out their but I thought this one was excellent which I certainly won't refuse.

    Open an account with Mansion.com and deposit €850. Go to the Sportsbook (not Sports Exchange) and click American football on the side menu. Click NFL and then Games. You'll see on Fri 8 September (GMT) There's a match between Miami Dolphins and Pittsburgh Steelers. It's handicap betting with Pittsburgh having to win by more than 5 pts.

    Put the €850 (it has to be every penny of €850) on Pittsburgh Steelers to win. If they win you get €1,623 which you can withdraw straight away. If they lose you'll get your €850 which you can withdraw straight away. Either way you'll have every penny of your money back by about September 11th and hopefully you'll have an extra €773! :)

    I'd appreciate if you'd use my affliate link as I then get free money from anyone that registers:
    http://www.mansion.com/?trackid=104741
    (There's a banner on the front page with the T&C. Trust me, there's no catches)
    TERMS & CONDITIONS

    This offer applies to bets placed on MANSION Sportsbook only and is limited to the team and selection specified. Bets placed on MANSION Sports Exchange will not qualify.

    To qualify, Players must place a single Points Spread (Handicap) bet of USD 1,100 on Pittsburgh Steelers for their game on 7 Sep 2006

    This offer is only available on the first bet placed for this event

    To qualify for this promotion you must be 18 years of age or over and have agreed to the MANSION terms & conditions.

    The promotion is valid from 25 Aug 2006.

    All refunds will be placed into Member accounts within 3 working days of the result.

    All personal information provided to MANSION must be complete and accurate in all respects and we reserve the right to request additional information in order to satisfy our validation of this information.

    Only one refund is allowed for each MANSION Member, residential address, email address, telephone number, debit/credit card or NETeller account number and shared computer. The refund applies exclusively to the first account opened in the event multiple accounts are opened.

    MANSION may at our sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in any promotion or bonus offer.

    MANSION reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time without prior notice.

    All decisions made by MANSION regarding this promotion shall be deemed final.

    The withdrawal of any promotion funds will be subject to MANSION withdrawal policy.

    Offer is valid for limited time period only.

    Players that bet both sides of the event with MANSION will not be eligible for a loss refund.

    Hopefully there'll be a few of us on here in the early hours of Friday morning cheering on the Steelers! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Great offer. I'd definitly do it if had 850 to deposit.

    Steelers certainly could win by 5 aswell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭whatsupdoc?


    USD 1,100

    Good idea but there will be a exchange rate conversion loss if the bet loses and you get your money back as you will have to firstly buy 1,100 Usd and then convert them back to Euro when you get your refund.

    I've never heard of them but I would suggest using a credit card to fund the bet as if it all goes pear shaped (and I'm not suggesting it will) but the credit card company will be able to refund you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Good idea but there will be a exchange rate conversion loss if the bet loses and you get your money back as you will have to firstly buy 1,100 Usd and then convert them back to Euro when you get your refund.
    When you set up your Mansion account just choose Euro as currency. They have a chart for this offer on their site:

    currencychartem2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Here's a transcript of my chat with customer care for any doubters:
    Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:54:21 PM (8/26/2006 5:54:21 PM - GMT)

    Powered by SightMax.

    Welcome to Chat.Mansion.Com, MANSION Marije will be right with you.

    MANSION Marije:
    RE: , I'm just wondering if I was to take up the $1,100 Pittsburgh Steelers offer can I withdraw all my funds from my account whether the bet wins or loses?

    MANSION Marije:
    Hi there

    eirebhoy:
    Hi

    MANSION Marije:
    Yes you can

    eirebhoy:
    Why are Mansion doing this deal if they can't win from it? Are they a sponsor of either team?

    MANSION Marije:
    No, but we are trying to draw some attention to the opening of the NFL season

    eirebhoy:
    OK, so if I lose my $1,100 I can have it back in my bank account within a few days of the match?

    MANSION Marije:
    Yes

    eirebhoy:
    without any wagering requirements?

    eirebhoy:
    just to be sure :)

    eirebhoy:
    ?

    MANSION Marije:
    Yes :)

    MANSION Marije:
    No strings attached

    eirebhoy:
    Cheers, appreciate the service

    Visitor eirebhoy has ended the chat

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    While Mansion (Gibraltar) Limited will take reasonable precautions, it cannot ensure that this e-mail and its attachments, if any, will be free of errors, viruses, interception or interference and cannot be held liable for any loss or damages incurred by you which have been caused by any of the foregoing. No undertaking, guarantee or other obligation contained in this e-mail or any attachments hereto, will bind Mansion (Gibraltar) Limited unless it is subsequently confirmed in writing.


    Mansion have a B rating on this site:
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Ratings+on+over+400+Sportsbooks+/default.aspx

    Which means they're in the top 10% online bookmakers (same rating as Paddy Powers).


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭whatsupdoc?


    10% online bookmakers (same rating as Paddy Powers).

    That's a good recommendation :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,622 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    The withdrawal of any promotion funds will be subject to MANSION withdrawal policy.

    Which is/are?
    Don't want to have to bet the refund before they pay you or some silly rule like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    okidoki987 wrote:
    Which is/are?
    Don't want to have to bet the refund before they pay you or some silly rule like that?
    If you look at the transcript I asked are there wagering requirements and she said no, no strings attached. The withdrawal policy is that you have to e-mail them with a scan of your passport/drivers licence before you can withdraw. I tried to withdraw for the 1st time last night but I had to e-mail my passport first. It then takes up to 3 working days for that to be verified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Rudolph Claus


    I think ill try this.
    Can i just literally sign up as a new user, place bet, win or breakeven and then close the account?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭MiniMetro


    Is this the right bet being placed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Nuttzy wrote:
    I think ill try this.
    Can i just literally sign up as a new user, place bet, win or breakeven and then close the account?
    Yep.
    MiniMetro wrote:
    Is this the right bet being placed?
    That's it yeah.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    Seems a bit dodge. I'll keep my money in my pocket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Seems a bit dodge. I'll keep my money in my pocket.
    Whats dodgy? Have you read the whole thread? :) This is knew bookmakers but they're hardly going to do a scam on their customers. They had a similar deal to this last week on the Bolton-Spurs match because they're the knew Spurs sponsor. They've already told me there's no strings attached. There's no way they're going to tell me this and then suddenly not give the money back.


    btw - They paid Spurs $102m for a 4 year sponsorship deal. They're investing big.
    http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_732653-01.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I certainly believe this deal will be true. They are a new company who have put alot of money into trying to gt there name out the, sponsoring spurs for example, there's no chance would try and shaft of people on this as they know the bad press would ruin them.

    Beecause its Mansion i would definitly take the offer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    I certainly believe this deal will be true. They are a new company who have put alot of money into trying to gt there name out the, sponsoring spurs for example, there's no chance would try and shaft of people on this as they know the bad press would ruin them.

    Beecause its Mansion i would definitly take the offer.
    Another sponsorship deal here:

    "2006 Marks a significant year for the next step in building the MANSION brand worldwide. MANSION recently announced a £60m deal with FOX Sports Network in the USA. The deal will see FOX produce the MANSION Poker Dome weekly live poker tournament series and the MANSION Poker $60M Mega-Event – an annual event offering the largest single prize in sports history in a winner-takes-all televised poker game."

    http://www.bookiealerts.com/freebets/mansion.aspx

    Definitely trustworthy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,622 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    GOOD REVIEW INCLUDING details on the same bet
    (other review sites have the same details)
    Poor marks here if you plan on staying with them.

    I was going to look at doing this bet UNTIL I had a look at the following

    Note to credit card depositors:
    MANSION account policies limit the maximum amount that may be deposited via credit card within the first 90 days of opening your MANSION Member Account.
    If you are opening a new account and intend to deposit via credit card you need to be aware of the deposit restrictions. We recommend that you consider one of our alternative deposit methods including Bank Wire, NETeller, Firepay, Moneybookers or Eco card.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/u/url/betting-odds-info!bookmakers,php

    Go to Deposit methods and Charges
    Look at Mansion at the bottom and look at the difference between them and all the others bookies when deposting by credit card :eek:
    £250 (if your account has been open for under 90 days)
    £2000 (if your account has been open for 90-210 days)
    £4000 (if your account has been open for 210+ days)

    So this means if you want to place the bet for 850 Euro you will have to use
    Bank Wire, NETeller, Firepay, Moneybookers or Eco card or you can only place 250 (unless your account has been opened for more than 90 days).
    If I am going to place 850 Euro I want some form of comfort in case of problems and Credit Card offers that.

    On the surface it looks okay but the cc limit of 250 makes me question it.

    eirebhoy
    Any thoughts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,622 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Yeah, I just found out about that CC limit. Seems a bit strange. I suppose Neteller/Gamebookers is the only option but they charge fee's so you're not exactly getting a free bet then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    I've had a look and I think MoneyBookers is the cheapest option. They charge 2.5% to deposit from Visa and Mastercard, free if you have Laser. That's just over €20 for a €850 deposit. To withdraw back to Visa it's €1.80 or €3.50 back to your bank account. All in all, I think it's worth it. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭whatsupdoc?


    I agree with eirebhoy that it's worth it but I'm a bit surprised there is a limit of 250 on the cc which is very strange. Normally bookies will offer a "free" bet up to 50 Euro but I've never ever seen a "free" bet of this size before and this also makes me a little suspicious.
    If the bet goes against them, they will lose millions.
    If the bet goes with them, they will break even.
    There's no reason why they need to offer a 1,100 USD "free" bet,
    or am I missing something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    I agree with eirebhoy that it's worth it but I'm a bit surprised there is a limit of 250 on the cc which is very strange. Normally bookies will offer a "free" bet up to 50 Euro but I've never ever seen a "free" bet of this size before and this also makes me a little suspicious.
    If the bet goes against them, they will lose millions.
    If the bet goes with them, they will break even.
    There's no reason why they need to offer a 1,100 USD "free" bet,
    or am I missing something.
    I don't know the reason but I wouldn't worry about it. I can't see how this deal is anything but genuine.

    Here's the link to chat if you have any questions:
    http://85.159.120.6/SightMaxAgentInterface/PreChatSurvey.aspx?accountID=1&siteID=1&queueID=2

    I asked about the limit:
    "The reason the limits are so low is due to the amount of fraud happening with credit cards in the world at the moment."

    "This is why when a player has been with us for longer and we can see a steady flow of deposits and withdrawal we up the limits"

    "This is a decision taken by our finance department so I only have limited information on it I am afraid"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Wish I had 850e...
    Seems like a good deal!


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭whatsupdoc?


    The reason the limits are so low is due to the amount of fraud happening with credit cards in the world at the moment."

    I can fully understand that
    "This is why when a player has been with us for longer and we can see a steady flow of deposits and withdrawal we up the limits"

    But surely this "free" bet is to attract new punters?
    If they could verify the credit card when the bet is made, surely they could then allow that person to lodge 850 rather than 250?

    Do we know how much the Spurs result cost them and does anybody know anyone who collected and withdrew?

    The bet is 9/10 so for 850 stake, you stand to win 765.
    So you either break even or win 765.
    Why not put half the bet on Miami somewhere else so that you are guaranteed to win 382 either way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Do we know how much the Spurs result cost them and does anybody know anyone who collected and withdrew?
    Spurs lost so they refunded everyone their stake.
    The bet is 9/10 so for 850 stake, you stand to win 765.
    So you either break even or win 765.
    Why not put half the bet on Miami somewhere else so that you are guaranteed to win 382 either way?
    A lot of people have suggested this on other betting forums but I don't think anywhere have Miama's handicap at +5 or higher. I think most places are now -/+4pts in the handicap.

    I don't even know anything about NFL. Pittsburgh have lost their 3 pre-season games. Maybe someone could give us a bit of info on the 2 teams?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Steelers are Superbowl champions so they certainly have a good chance. However i dont think they will win it this year. I wouldnt pay to much attention to preseason matches. I think the Colts lost all of theirs last season and went on to a 14-2 record. Last season Steelers did get off to a slow start. It was only there end of season form that saw them get a wild card place.

    Miami are alot of peoples outside picks to win it this year. I dont think they will win it, but i think they will make the playoffs. steelers have home advantage though in this match so they will be favourites.

    However i think Miami will win. Ask on the NFL forum. Get much better advice there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Cheers. Hopefully the Pittsburgh players find out about this promotion to give them an extra incentive of giving a load of people free money. :)

    Hopefully Setant show this game as they usually show NASN after midnight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    NASN dont have the rights to NFL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭imalegend


    ok.Im sold.Sounds great so tell me is moneybookers the way people are going forward to place this bet?

    cheers for the headsup eireboy!if this comes off i owe you a pint or 2.


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