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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A city church has begun an investigation after it's ashes caused a mystery rash among some schoolchildren yesterday.

    Several staff and pupils from St Francis Primary School Tirellan Heights suffered chemical reactions to the ashes from Ballinfoyle Church of the Resurrection.

    It's understood the reactions are minor but the school principal Enda Kilbane has refused to comment on the children's condition.

    Ballinfoyle Church Parish Priest Fr Gerry Thornton says no chemicals were added to the ashes and he's now going to have them analysed to discover the cause of the chemical burning and prevent any similar reactions in future.
    http://www.galwaynews.ie/18219-church-ashes-cause-mystery-rash-city-schoolchildren


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Astrologer's claims the Japanese earthquake was caused by a "supermoon" reported as fact by the *spits* Mail.
    The powerful tsunami that today slammed into Japan's eastern coast comes just two days after warnings that the movement of the moon could trigger unpredictable events on Earth.

    Astrologers predicted [wtf!? Seriously?! -TMH] that on March 19 - a week tomorrow - the so-called 'supermoon' will be closer to Earth than at any time since 1992 ... and that its gravitational pull will bring chaos to Earth.

    Link, not to the Mail, but to Ben Goldacre's response.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Oh sweet jesus....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-los-angeles/minister-s-wife-starves-herself-to-death
    Minister's wife starves herself to death

    Evelyn Boyd, 55, wife of Rev. John Boyd of Higher Praise Full Gospel Ministries in Bartow, Florida, died alone in her room after fasting for 3 weeks. She was dead at least 1-3 days before her body was discovered by her husband. Those are the bare facts of this tragedy but there's more to the story than that. There are lessons to be learned. Here are some of the details:

    ...

    In late 2008, Evelyn retired from work in order, John Boyd said, to have more time to help people and become closer to God. Both she and her husband were accustomed to fasting as an act of devotion. In John's case, fasts might last 2 or 3 days but Evelyn's devotionals took far longer. She would shut herself into her bedroom sometimes for weeks on end with only such meager supplies as she thought she needed. Since there was no adjoining bathroom, these included plastic bags for waste that, when filled, were lowered into a garbage can outside her window. She allowed no one to see her while fasting and she never checked with a doctor beforehand. Her husband said she didn't believe in them.

    In 2009, Evelyn Boyd began fasting in earnest. On two occasions fasts lasted 21 days; another lasted 23 days. The longest one was for 40 days though she allowed herself some bread and crackers that time. On Feb. 7, Evelyn Boyd entered her bedroom with her plastic bags and water containers for the last time. John Boyd says he wanted to check on her but respected her need for alone time with God. On March 5, John was returning home from an overnight fishing trip in the early hours of the morning when he saw that her bedroom window was open despite the bitter chill in the air. That's when he entered and discovered Evelyn's lifeless body.

    Though the official autopsy reports won't be ready for nearly 30 days, Associate Medical Examiner Dr. Vera Volnikh believes Evelyn died from severe dehydration. A small amount of liquid was found in her stomach but there was no evidence of any food. The Polk County Sheriff's Office is investigating the the death but doesn't anticipate that any charges will be filed.

    Evelyn Boyd was obeying what God told her to do, John Boyd said. "God called her home."

    ...

    :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭Byron85


    Looks like an interesting documentary. Don't have the time to watch it tonight/this morning but will do so on the morrow.

    American Crusaders: The rise of Christian nationalism in Post-9/11 America.

    A harrowing exploration of the rapid rise of American religious fanaticism after 9/11. This film explores an emerging ultra-rightwing mass movement seeking dominion over all aspects of contemporary American society. The film weaves archival video, contemporary Christian Nationalist movement propaganda (recruiting videos, apocalyptic/military video game imagery, etc. and original investigative material) to create an intense examination of the mindset and its will to power.

    http://rt.com/programs/documentary/11-america-part-1/


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Zimbabwe churches ban AIDS medication for some reason:

    http://www.newsday.co.zw/article/2011-03-13-hundreds-of-worshippers-dying-as-churches-ban-hiv-and-aids-medication

    The report says that hundreds are dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Mariano Apologeticus


    Adolf Hitler was not a Christian and the info provided on evilbible.com has been discredited in detail:
    http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/adolf-hitler-was-christian-was-adolf-hitler-christian-part-1


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Mariano Apologeticus - soapboxing like that is more suitable for a blog than a discussion forum.

    Welcome, btw :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Hitler wrote:
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1] "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."[/SIZE][/FONT]
    That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    'Pologies if this has been done before:



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    one of the hazards of belief appears to be obesity. :)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/faith-fat-religious-youths-obese-mid-life/story?id=13204624

    what does it mean if i'm a fat atheist? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    vibe666 wrote: »
    what does it mean if i'm a fat atheist? :D
    That your diet and/or exercise regimen leave something to be desired, most likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean




  • Registered Users Posts: 33,382 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Friend told me that he read in the paper today about the people who won the Lotto this weekend. The winner in Kingscourt, Co.Cavan hasn't come forward but they had an interview with the shopowner where the ticket was bought.

    He said that the Priest on Sunday morning mentioned how the winner was in Kingscourt. Then a few minutes later, mentioned how they're trying to raise money for the church roof. What a coincidence!

    So congratulations, whoever you are. You can expect a lovely random visit from the priest any day now I'll bet. Have a chequebook ready, because as we all know, priests don't carry creditcard machines around with them. Although I'm sure if you ask nicely, he'll give you a lift into town to go to a bank machine.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Not sure whether this thread or the humor one. Since it may be law in Egypt sometime soon, it's probably best here:

    http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5143.htm
    During the ride in the vehicle, keep yourself occupied with anything that will distract you from those around you – reading the Koran or a book, asking forgiveness [from Allah], contemplating or thinking deeply, [and so on].

    If your salary enables you [to buy two tickets], try to sit by the driver and take up both [front] seats for yourself. What a relief it will be not to rub against any men. Give yourself a rest from all the suffering you have experienced [in the past] by keeping the proper distance from any man

    You must first and foremost pray to Allah to protect you and guard you... As long you take all [necessary] measures, pray to Allah, and rely on Him, it is impossible that Allah should bring shame upon you...


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    I've just had a read through this thread :eek:
    You couldn't make this stuff up. It makes Monty Python look like quite dull and uninventive. The truth of religion is much more comical than the Life of Brian.


    Playboy wrote: »
    ye a community of smart asses who get to together to pat each other on the back about how intelligent they are in comparison to theists and laugh at the misfortune of the mentally ill.

    Can I join, where do I sign up ? :D

    Though I only like to laugh at people who's mental illness is religion.

    Feel sorry for the woman in Mehfesto's post. Her country turning against her, and for what. They should be grateful they never had Jade Goody in her reality tv days. She would've been stoned to death.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Remember that islamic fundamentalist BA employee who wanted to blow up planes by using his position to smuggle bombs on board?

    Turns out that he encrypted of his sensitive, incriminating documents using an excel spreadsheet which implemented the Caesar substitution cipher -- about as secure as writing back to front -- in place of something like AES because "because 'kaffirs', or non-believers, know about it [AES] so it must be less secure".

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/22/ba_jihadist_trial_sentencing/

    Crafty kaffirs indeed. Mr Karim was jailed for 30 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    robindch wrote: »
    Remember that islamic fundamentalist BA employee who wanted to blow up planes by using his position to smuggle bombs on board?

    Turns out that he encrypted of his sensitive, incriminating documents using an excel spreadsheet which implemented the Caesar substitution cipher -- about as secure as writing back to front -- in place of something like AES because "because 'kaffirs', or non-believers, know about it [AES] so it must be less secure".

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/22/ba_jihadist_trial_sentencing/

    Crafty kaffirs indeed. Mr Karim was jailed for 30 years.

    "The case just dealt with shows where we have got to in the real world. The level of cryptography they used was not even up to the standards of cryptology and cryptography in the Middle Ages, although they made it look pretty using Excel." :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ^^ Forget any actual argument against civil marriage... GOD SAYS NOOOOOO!

    €10 says that kid spent his summers in Jesus Camp. :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    There's an interesting fight bubbling away in the USA at the mo'.

    National Public Radio, aka NPR, is a US-based non-profit radio station which is funded from central federal funds and private sources. Being a reality-based radio network, it's perceived as being "liberal" by the Republican Party which has been trying to kill NPR and its parent company, PBC, it for many years:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0316/Why-House-Republicans-are-rushing-to-slash-NPR-funding

    The Republican Party, as everybody knows, are the party of small government and no free handouts -- for that equates to "socialism" which is a Bad Thing -- so it's interesting to note that the largest evangelical religious "college" in the USA, set up by Jerry Falwell (who was a prominent Republican Party supporter) and which "teaches" young-earth-creationism to biology students, receives more in federal funds than the entire country-wide NPR/PBC broadcasting network:

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/05/liberty_university_federal_money


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Portland mother reads Old Testament, watches a few youtube videos, then tries to circumcise her three month old baby with a boxcutter and a pair of pliers:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/04/more_details_emerge_about_port.html

    Meanwhile, a few weeks earlier, the Oregon legislature voted unanimously to end the "faith-healing" exception:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/03/bill_ending_faith_healing_exce.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Links234 wrote: »
    He sure is hamming it up quite a bit isn't he?! Overdoing it *just a tad* on the forced emotive whispershout vocal technique that preachers use. His voice says one thing, his face says another :)

    1:44 to 1:48 is the best bit of it, almost worthy of Keanu Reeves himself :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Rabbi erects barrier to the carrying on of normal life. Spends six months discussing topic with other Rabbi. Finds a way around it.

    http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20110412-34339.html

    34339.jpg
    Some Rabbi wrote:
    Rabbi Dror Fixler, an electro-optics expert from Bar-Ilan University in Ramat Gan, Israel, told The Local that the distinction between thought and action could mean that driving on the traditional Jewish day of rest was mutar, or permitted.

    In October, scientists at Berlin’s Free University announced they had tested a “proof of concept” car that could be driven by thought. An electroencephalography headset with sixteen sensors measures the brain’s signals and sends them to a computer that operates the car. Last week, Rabbi Fixler gave a lecture at the “Torah and Science Conference” at the Jerusalem College of Technology, during which he showed a video of the car being test driven at the former Tempelhof airport in Berlin.

    That lecture, he said, has sparked a debate in Israel about whether such devices that integrate the mind with machinery would be permitted on the Sabbath, when driving is typically forbidden. “When you are making only thoughts, it is no action at all. There is a difference – if you are thinking, it is not the same thing, so you can’t say it’s forbidden,” he said. “That was what I asked the audience to think about.

    “At first the instinctive reaction was, ‘How can you say it’s mutar?’ But after thinking about it, they started to think about the big difference between regular action and thought.” Fixler stressed he personally did not think driving thought-controlled cars should be permitted on the Sabbath, as it would destroy the whole purpose of having a rest day. Rather, he wanted to spark a debate, he said. Jewish theologians and intellectuals needed to start thinking about the impact of technology.

    “It’s still in the future … it’s not going to happen tomorrow, but we need to discuss it today so we’ll have an answer tomorrow,” he said. The distinction between thought and action could affect one of the chief reasons driving is forbidden on the Sabbath - the fact that operating a vehicle constitutes work. However the creation of a spark and the combustion of fuel could be said to also violate the prohibition of fire on the rest day. There are also rules about how far one may travel by any means of transport.

    But Fixler said his own Rabbi, with whom he had discussed the complexities of the issue for six months, believed that remote controls rendered electrical devices such as televisions and air-conditioners permissible. “If I’m pushing a button, I cannot say it is my action turning on the air-conditioner. So he says it’s okay.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Am I the only one thinking that's cool? driving a car with your mind!? awesome! :D

    of course, it could be hazardous on the road... so I guess it is a hazard of belief? :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Links234 wrote: »
    Am I the only one thinking that's cool? driving a car with your mind!? awesome! :D

    of course, it could be hazardous on the road... so I guess it is a hazard of belief? :p
    Cool, yes. Insanely dangerous, also yes. Can you imagine, you get distracted by 2 for 1 doughnuts and next thing you've ploughed through the window of the Spar.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    kylith wrote: »
    you get distracted by 2 for 1 doughnuts and next thing you've ploughed through the window of the Spar.
    I'd be more worried about seeing some chick in a low-cut top and having the front bonnet pop open.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    robindch wrote: »
    I'd be more worried about seeing some chick in a low-cut top and having the front bonnet pop open.

    Made me LOL :pac:


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