The Hazards of Belief

recedite

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Another hazard of belief - getting dug up twice so people can pray in closer proximity to your corpse.
Call for exhumation of 'Little Nellie' to allow faithful to pray
Shouldn't they really have sorted that out before cashing in on the boom-time land prices?

Its funny the way they say the land "became the property of Ulster Bank and KPMG in 2010." As opposed to "was flogged to a property developer by the nuns during the celtic tiger era."

So Little Nellie was sent to this industrial school, and died a few months later. While she was there, she developed an uncanny knowledge of RC doctrine. Sounds like a survival strategy to me, which didn't quite work. Not a miracle as such.
Oh wait, they dug her up after a year, and the corpse was as fresh as a daisy. Now that is a genuine miracle. Presumably they took photos of the corpse and everything before reburying it, but the photos were lost.
Actually, this would be a good opportunity to dig it up again and take some new photos. That should keep those Doubting Thomas' quiet.

recedite

Riot in Germany.
An Afghan, a torn Koran and some angry muddafukkas.

Nodin

Chucking the wimmin into the wimminz hut, Nepalese style.
http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2015/BanishedNepal/index.html#16156

recedite

Same old story. They have only superstition, religion, fear and ignorance instead of a basic education.

Links234

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_a9EDSYiKw

robindch

After 2,000 years, Jesus' 40-day record still good:

http://www.africanglobe.net/featured/zimbabwean-jesus-dies-30-days-fasting-fails-break-bible-record/

African Globe wrote:

AFRICANGLOBE – Zimbabwean self-styled Messiah Khulu Reinfirst Manyuka has died from malnutrition after going without food for 30 days when he tried to emulate Jesus Christ and fast for 40 days and 40 nights.

Mr Manyuka, 73, left home on 15 June and headed into the winderness to conduct prayers, redirecting his attention to God, away from things of the earth.

He was known by his family and community at large as a very spiritual person whose faith could move mountains and his death has puzzled those close to him.

One close relative said: “He was a very spiritual man. It’s unfortunate he had to die this way. “After a month we got the sad news of his death. He was a healthy and religious old man who did not even look his age.”

Attempting to equal or break Jesus Christ’s record of fasting for 40 days, Mr Manyuka gave up the ghost after just a month despite having no history of illness. He was alone in the wilderness and his body was found by a stranger who then alerted the police.

According to the police, Mr Manyuka is not the first to die from fasting, as numerous other cases have been reported. A police spokesman said that they are powerless, however, to prevent members of the public from fasting.

seamus

robindch wrote: »

He was known by his family and community at large as a very spiritual person whose faith could move mountains.

FFS. THIS IS HOW RELIGIONS START, PEOPLE!

Mofo's need to be less sensationalist in their reportage.

recedite

Doesn't say which specific mountains he moved.
Maybe they were mountains of elephant dung?
Speaking of wildlife, I'm surprised the jackals or hyenas didn't get to him before he expired. It must be a very "wildlife impoverished" part of Zimbabwe.

Nodin

recedite wrote: »

Doesn't say which specific mountains he moved.
Maybe they were mountains of elephant dung?
Speaking of wildlife, I'm surprised the jackals or hyenas didn't get to him before he expired. It must be a very "wildlife impoverished" part of Zimbabwe.

....no need to mock. The important thing to note here is that mountain moving power evidently does not work in relation to food transportation.

MrPudding

More IS related stuff. Not another hazard, per se, but an interesting piece about feeling bad about inanimate objects being destroyed.

MrP

Nodin

Think this qualifies......

"You may have seen a recent article on Independent.ie about Rosanna Davison, who has written a book called Eat Yourself Beautiful.

“…Although Rosanna agrees that proper sourdough bread is easier on the digestive system, she is a believer in non-coeliac gluten sensitivity, and cites research that shows gluten to be the bad guy responsible for a huge range of medical conditions from autism spectrum disorders to schizophrenia to arthritis.”
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=96699072

Pherekydes

Something of a twitter storm about this at the moment, with Davison blocking numerous users, including doctors and dieticians who question her credentials and research.

Nodin

Pherekydes wrote: »

Something of a twitter storm about this at the moment, with Davison blocking numerous users, including doctors and dieticians who question her credentials and research.

The cheek of them!

pauldla

Nodin wrote: »

Think this qualifies......

"You may have seen a recent article on Independent.ie about Rosanna Davison, who has written a book called Eat Yourself Beautiful.

Eat Yourself Beautiful? I should be Channing Tatum by now, in that case...

biko

Islam destroys another culture relic
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34036644

Palmyra's Baalshamin temple 'blown up by IS'

IS took control of Palmyra in May, sparking fears for the site.
It is considered one of the ancient world's most important cultural centres.

Now gone after 2000 years..

kylith

bastards

marienbad

kylith wrote: »

bastards

Ignorant bastards

Peregrinus

No, I think they know exactly what they're at. Malicious, cynical bastards, but not ignorant.

Nodin

kylith wrote: »

bastards

A group who have no use or utility to human living or progress. It's an ideology that's more like a disease than anything else.

silverharp

Links234 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_a9EDSYiKw

I saw an update of this it was a pro choice guy going for a job interview, he had been couch surfing so had all his stuff with him. the active bomb was a couple of firecrackers he had in a medicine bottle and was found as they had a metal detector.

Hotblack Desiato

recedite wrote: »

Oh wait, they dug her up after a year, and the corpse was as fresh as a daisy. Now that is a genuine miracle. Presumably they took photos of the corpse and everything before reburying it, but the photos were lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere ?

Nodin

"Discrimination is an extremely loaded word.” (like homophobe, I suppose)

"Barrister Patrick Monahan and David Quinn, of the Iona Institute, spoke with Keelin Shanley this morning on RTÉ Radio One about how children who are not baptised in the Catholic church are being refused access to schools across Ireland.
In relation to this, Mr Monahan is calling for Section 7 (3) C of the Equal Status Act 2010 to be abolished. He has set up a petition which currently has more than 13,000 signatures and he will be bring it before the Oireachtas petitions committee in September.
Mr Quinn believes it’s just an issue of oversubscription."
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/08/27/catholics-come-first/

oldrnwisr

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere ?

Well, more like Incorruptibility.

Religious fanatics, ascetics for the most part have long been associated with incorruptibility. Their lifestyle lends itself to the conditions whereby the body doesn't have a huge amount of body fat and the bacteria start going after other tissues first leaving the outer appearance relatively unchanged.

silverharp

This isnt a parody site is it?


Exorcise Ireland and do it now

http://www.catholicvoice.ie/index.php/71-exorcise-ireland-and-do-it-now

LATEST NEWS
Exorcise Ireland and do it now
Published: 15 July 2015
by Deacon Nick Donnelly
Homosexual activists have succeeded in persuading the ruling elites to use the power of the State, media and big business to successfully campaign for the legalisation of same-sex “marriage”. A government minister of Ireland, one of the most pro-life countries of the world, has announced with satisfaction the killing of 26 babies in 2014 as a result of Kenny’s abortion law.
These are the first ‘legal’ abortions ever conducted in the Republic of Ireland. A majority in the UK House of Commons, that prides itself on promoting feminism, have voted down a motion to protect baby girls from gendercide abortion. No wonder there is a sense among faithful Catholics that moral life is spinning out of control in Ireland and Britain. The question is, does the accelerating abandonment of morality and the riotous celebration of immorality, coupled with increasing hostility towards Christianity, especially the Catholic Church, indicate the activity of supernatural evil in both Britain and Ireland? The most significant evidence that the devil is conspiring to bring these events about is the reversal of public morality, where good is now condemned as evil, and evil is celebrated as good. For example, during the referendum in Ireland good people who defended marriage between a man and woman for the procreation and upbringing of children were pilloried in the media and meetings as wicked bigots.
Faced with the activity of supernatural evil in our countries what should be the response of faithful bishops, priests and laity?

Did the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary fail?
On 15 August 2013, Ireland was consecrated at the Shrine of Knock by the bishops of Ireland to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Since this act both abortion and same-sex marriage have been legalised to popular acclaim. So why didn’t the consecration of Ireland to the Immaculate Heart of Mary bring about the hoped for moral and spiritual transformation?
Looking at the poor defence of the Faith by the bishops when faced with the challenge of abortion and homosexuality one possible explanation for this failure is that the Irish Church was just not in a position to make such a consecration. If reparation for sin was not at the heart of the consecration of Ireland to the Immaculate Heart then the one intention necessary was absent. Reparation for offenses against God’s divine majesty is the fundamental message delivered by Our Lady of Fatima:
"Make of everything you can a sacrifice and offer it to God as an act of reparation for the sins by which He is offended, and in supplication, for the conversion of sinners."
Furthermore the validity of the consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is questionable because not all the bishops of Ireland attended and the prayer of consecration didn’t mention Ireland.
However, the tragedy for both the Irish and British churches is the reluctance of many of the bishops, and priests, to publicly name as grave sin: abortion; co-operation with abortion; homosexual acts, and, support for same-sex “marriage”. Hence the scandal of Catholics politicians who vote for abortion and same-sex marriage continuing to receive Holy Communion. How can you fulfil the obligation of reparation for sins that is necessary for the consecration if you won’t acknowledge the reality of grave sin in our society?
There is a process of national healing based on the words and deeds of Our Lord Jesus Christ which the Church needs to follow: proclamation of the kingdom; exorcism; repentance; atonement/reparation; consecration; catechesis; formation, and, going out into the world to proclaim the kingdom.
First Great Exorcism Conducted in the World
Therefore, I’m convinced that before an effective consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary can take place, the churches in Ireland and Britain need to take seriously the reality of supernatural evil at work in our countries. This is why I consider the news that a Great Exorcism has been conducted for the first time in the world, in Mexico, to be a very significant development for the entire Catholic Church.
It is reported that on May 20th, 2015 the Cardinal Emeritus of Guadalajara, assisted by bishops, priests and an exorcist, conducted a 'Magno Exorcismo' or Great Exorcism in the Cathedral of San Luis Potosí. According to Cardinal Sandoval Íñiguez, the Great Exorcism “is a prayer asking God to drive away the Enemy, to drive him away from these places. From San Luis, first of all, and then from all of Mexico”. His Eminence further explained why he thought it necessary to conduct a Great Exorcism for the Archdiocese of San Luis and Mexico:
“The very grave situation we are living through in Mexico, whose root is very deep, beyond human malevolence; it is the devil, who is very connected to death. He is a murderer from the beginning…violence against young and old…abortions are performed even when it is not legalized, but when a country, a Christian country, legalizes abortion, that is a tragedy. It is a very, very grave sin. It’s time for people to become more aware of the seriousness of the situation in Mexico. Acts of revenge, now occurring between assassins and the government; deaths here, deaths there, and deaths everywhere: this violence is nothing else but the Devil who is tearing us apart.”

Archbishop Cabrero, the Ordinary of San Luis, explained what the rite of the Great Exorcism includes:
“Prayers, for example, about the problem of divorce and of abortion, which often are favored by inhuman laws, laws that go against nature itself. We ask God to free us from the strong presence of the Evil One, that makes itself felt. To do that, we turn to this special prayer, which is certainly extraordinary, but which is nonetheless a Church practice.”
The Archbishop expressed the hope that the Great Exorcism would result in his people knowing, “the dignity of the human person; that we will be able to see how God calls us both to holiness and to become truly conscious of our Christian vocation and of his call to eternal life.”
Father José Antonio Fortea, the world famous exorcist and author of ‘Interview with an Exorcist’ assisted the bishops and priests conducting the Great Exorcism. Fr Fortea told the Catholic News Agency,"this rite of exorcism, beautiful and liturgical, had never before taken place in any part of the world, although it had taken place in a private manner as when Saint Francis (exorcised) the Italian city of Arezzo.”
The exorcist identified the signs of supernatural evil present in a country that require this unique rite of exorcism:
“To the extent there is more witchcraft and Satanism going on in a country, to that extent there will be more extraordinary manifestations of those powers of darkness. To the extent sin increases more and more in a country, to that extent it becomes easier for the demons to tempt people."
However, Fr Fortea cautioned that conducting one exorcism would not be enough to rid Mexico of demonic evil:
"It would be a big mistake to think that by performing a full-scale exorcism of the country everything would automatically change right away. If with the power we've received from Christ we expel the demons from a country, this will certainly have positive repercussions, because we'll make a great number of the tempters flee, even if this exorcism is partial. We don't drive out all the evil spirits from a country with just one ceremony. But even though all will not be expelled, those that were removed are not there anymore.”

pauldla

So why didn’t the consecration of Ireland to the Immaculate Heart of Mary bring about the hoped for moral and spiritual transformation?

The Lord sure does move in mysterious ways, don't he?

We don't drive out all the evil spirits from a country with just one ceremony.

So these is something to be said for another Mass, after all.

robindch

silverharp wrote: »

Exorcise Ireland and do it now!

Sounds like something you'd hear on the rugby fields of Blackrock College.

robindch

Church Inquiry May Pit Pope Against a Popular Bosnian Shrine

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/world/europe/catholic-church-virgin-mary-apparations-medjugorje.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1

New York Times wrote:

From the point of view of the pilgrimage supply chain, it’s been a catastrophe.

PopePalpatine

silverharp wrote: »

This isnt a parody site is it?


Exorcise Ireland and do it now

http://www.catholicvoice.ie/index.php/71-exorcise-ireland-and-do-it-now

I swear there's a couple from t'udder forum who would write this kind of shïte.

BlaasForRafa

robindch wrote: »

Church Inquiry May Pit Pope Against a Popular Bosnian Shrine

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/world/europe/catholic-church-virgin-mary-apparations-medjugorje.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1

Time to get the campaign back up running to upgrade the Holy Stone of Clonrickert to a grade one relic!

Hotblack Desiato

robindch wrote: »

Church Inquiry May Pit Pope Against a Popular Bosnian Shrine

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/world/europe/catholic-church-virgin-mary-apparations-medjugorje.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1

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