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My Circumcision Story

  • 07-03-2006 11:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Edit:

    Hi! I'm boards.ie's tbh. Below you can find the start-to-finish story of the circumcision I had a couple of years ago. I still get lots of pm's from other guys asking me questions, and it's a topic that pops up a lot in PI and Men's health, so I thought it'd be a good idea to re-open the thread and let everyone have a look.

    If you have been told that you need this op, hopefully the thread below will reassure you. This thread generated the most replies in PI of a non-stickied thread (even though it was closed a year ago) so that might give you some reassurance that you are not alone.

    enjoy!
    tbh




    Hi -

    regular poster going unreg'd for this. I need to get a circumcision - foreskin is very tight and painful to retract. My family GP is a family friend, and a woman, so I'd rather not go to her with this. Is there a "well-man" clinic anywhere in Dublin that could help? Has anyone gone through this before (I'm over 25) and if so, how was it? Is it sore? Is there any difference afterwards?

    thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭govinda


    Hi there

    I had a circumcision, for the same reasons as you, just last year. It was definitely worth the embarassment and pain ;-)

    First off, you will need a referral to a urologist - any GP can give you a letter. Perhaps you can ring a GPs surgery in a neighbouring town/area to make an appointment with a male GP if that will make you more at ease.

    I went on a waiting list for about six months to have the procedure done privately. Recovery took about two weeks and it was quite painful the first few days, after that just tender.

    Feel free to post again or PM me if you need any more details.

    Best of luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭HappyDude


    Had one done a year ago at age 27 in the US. As previous poster said, go to family doctor and get referral to urologist. it is nothing they have not seen before. Urologist took a look, explained the surgery, and booked me in for a month later. Dont be shy about going to a doctor with this - just pick one and go. They are paid well enough! :p

    Day surgery for me, local anaesthetic. In and out in just over an hour. I was back in work about a week later, although it was about 3-4 weeks before swelling had gone down and stitches dissolved. It was sore for 2/3 days, and was glad i had the time off work. After that it is just uncomfortable. That gets better.

    Again, PM if you have any questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    erm, i'm kind of in the same position myself, my foreskin is too tight to retract, anytime it does it's in the *heat* of the moment when the juices are flowing so to speak..

    Apart from hygene reasons, is this not normal? Surely a lot of men are like this? Is it unsafe or anything, it's just been the norm for me so i don't really know any different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    guys thanks a lot for the advice - it really helped, will make an appointment with another gp tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hi in the same boat as these lads and was wondering about the cost of these operations


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Have to add my voice to the chorus of encouragement here.

    Went to local GP, was referred to surgeon and had it done 7 weeks later.

    And my god was it worth it. Definitely definitely recommended. Yes, it is rather sore at the time (waking up in the middle of the night with a stiffy two nights after the operation is alarming to say the least) but its damn well been worth it.

    Oh yeah :cool:

    ps. Don't be worried if yer GP is a woman! She has seen this a thousand times before. Circumcision ain't a sex change op - its standard and necessary for many men. Don't feel embarassed in the slightest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    General surgeons also perform circumcisions and the wait to see one might be much less than a urologist. If it is an emergency and you go to A&E you might even get it done the same day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    el tel wrote:
    General surgeons also perform circumcisions and the wait to see one might be much less than a urologist. If it is an emergency and you go to A&E you might even get it done the same day.

    Emergency?

    What counts as an emergency.

    I ripped my banjo string before and all they did was reattach it at a later date.

    Totally pointless given I got a circumcision a few months after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    quad_red wrote:
    Emergency?

    What counts as an emergency.

    I ripped my banjo string before and all they did was reattach it at a later date.

    Totally pointless given I got a circumcision a few months after that.

    One might need an emergency circumcision in the case of paraphimosis (retracted foreskin becomes stuck impairing the blood supply to the end of the penis). This is a medical emergency needing immediate attention.

    A broken 'banjo string' is not quite in the same league.

    (And this is not a medical board either...;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I had the same problem as you before, the opening was very small and it was extremely painful to pull back. But stretching does work. Go for a millimeter further back everyday. It'll take several weeks before you can do it fully but it's worth it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Mutenye


    I have the same problem as the gentlemen that have posted. However I'm not in any hurry to have a circumscision but I would be interested in a preputiplasty or a frenuloplasty (depending on exactly which one I need). Both are day patient procedeures with only a local anasthetic needed. I haven't been to a gp yet because I know what they will say... "you need a circumscision I need to refer you to a urologist", so I'm trying to find out the name of a urologist who deals with this sort of thing so I can get the gp to refer me to that particular expert who will know what a preputioplasty and frenuloplasty are. If anyone has any information I'd be really grateful. I can't find anything on the net about urology in ireland, especially regarding this problem...typical!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Pretty much any urologist worth his salt will know about them - so what if the GP refers you to one for "circumcision". You will have consultations beforehand, and can discuss it in more detail with the urologist


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Squirmy wrote:
    I need to get a circumcision
    I would suggest that maybe you don't. This is a common problem and there are other potential solutions. Solutions which don't remove the function of the foreskin.

    Now many who have this operation will recommend it precisely because of the discomfort of their pre op state and they have no experience of a normal penis. Very few men with fully functional foreskins would remove them as it both protects the sensitivity of the head and has quite a bit of nerve endings in of itself, which contribute to the sexual response. I know I certainly wouldn't have it removed for all the tea etc. -
    foreskin is very tight and painful to retract
    Tightskins advice is a good start. Steroidal creams are another route to research. I would be wary of many US sites as it is a very polarised issue over there. they circumcise 90 odd % of boys soon after birth(for no good reason) and have a tendency to not see any potential harm in the operation(some even think of an uncircumcised willy as being somehow unnatural and unhygenic which is frankly daft).
    Has anyone gone through this before (I'm over 25) and if so, how was it?
    One of my mates did and has regretted it. Another did his research and found another solution(hence I know all this stuff :)
    Is there any difference afterwards?
    As I said before, you will get relief from your current state, but you may lose the chance to have a fully functional organ. For a start the head of the penis becomes keratinised(hardens) which obviously reduces the sensitivity. Of course as you are now this doesn't really come into it, but it might. Research, research research would be my mantra. Good luck anyhow.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    quad_red wrote:
    I ripped my banjo string

    ok I need to know -- what's your banjo string? :( I *think* I know what it is, but... :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Mutenye wrote:
    ...what a preputioplasty and frenuloplasty are. If anyone has any information I'd be really grateful..

    Well, I had a Frenuloplasty done about a year before I had a circumcision. It was a pretty simple procedure & relatively painless. Relative to circumcision that is - its still quite uncomfortable and sore.

    But it didn't do me any good. I didn't notice any real improvement after it. So I think it was a mistake on my surgeons part.

    Should've gone straight for circumcision. Would've saved a useless penis operation, discomfort and a years more discomfort re nookie.
    DaveMcG wrote:
    what's your banjo string?

    Sorry man - it's the frenulum :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    Let's not talk about the banjo string, i have a very strong stomach but even i find it hard listening to that shíte!!:eek: *shudder*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭sutty


    I think what Wibbs said, should be listened to. Circumcision is not the only answer to the problems you have. Hell I had that problem when I was 13ish. If I had not seen something on Discovery channel about this I would be in the same boat you are now. However this program also went into "stretching". After a month or two of trying this out. I had a perfectly working foreskin. Oh and if you are worried about "braking" the skin while doing this. Don’t. As long as you don’t force it, it will be ok. There are many sites online about the subject.

    Also at no point in any medical report have they ever found that circumcision will lead to a "cleaner" penis. It will not stop or reduce the chances of Urinary Tract Infections. What will happen is the skin on the head of the penis will get harder, meaning a loss of sensation during sex. You may also find that friction from clothes will cause discomfort.

    But the decision is yours. But don’t make it till you read up on all the options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭JackieChan


    When I was younger I used to have the same kind of tightness issues but when I started having sex I paritally ripped my banjo string and that sorted everything out!!
    I remember my partner at the time was telling me that I needed to go to hospital as I was bleeding so much. I told her no way. I wrapped it up and rested it for while and all was fine....was a bit dizzy after the incident though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    seriously, enough of the banjo string:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi guys,

    Well, it took me a while but finally made an appointment to see the GP. I was really dreading it and so kept putting it off, but finally just made the call. Thought I'd just post what happened for anyone who reads this that may be in the same boat. The appointment was fine, Doc asked me what was up and I started by saying "it's a bit embarrassing", then said my foreskin was very tight and painful, difficult to keep everything clean etc. told to pop up on the table and lower the trousers - he had a quick look and told me I'd need a circumscision. Weird thing was, he didn't refer me to anyone in particular, told me to ring the mater private and get a name, and then he would send a letter - didn't really help to be honest. Anyway, I got the name of a guy through a family friend who's a doc, and have an appointment next month. I imagine the op will be pretty soon after that. I'll let you know what happens.

    I've been living with this for a couple of years, and it's been something thats always been in the back of my mind for that time. I knew I would have to sort it but kept hoping it would go away. I'm really glad its all getting sorted now, and keep thinking "this time next month it'll all be done and I won't have to carry it around with me anymore" (pardon the pun). If you have something similar, get it checked out, it's well worth it.

    Thanks very much to all the lads who posted and pm'd with support, honestly, if you hadn't posted I wouldn't have gone to the gp. thanks guys, I hope to be able to do the same for someone else to pay it forward.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    TightSkin wrote:
    I had the same problem as you before, the opening was very small and it was extremely painful to pull back. But stretching does work. Go for a millimeter further back everyday. It'll take several weeks before you can do it fully but it's worth it.
    Same here, mine would not fully retract until I was 18 or so. So people should consider that there may be other options (I see OP's doctor determined that circumcision was necessary in his case however.)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I need to get a circumcision - foreskin is very tight and painful to retract.
    Were you able to retract it fully though?
    What exactly do you mean by your foreshin was painful? The actual foreskin?
    Are you sure you need a circumcision, people seem to hop on the circumcision boat without looking at frenuplasty etc.
    Have you had sex? Was the penis ridiculously sensitive, ie you hit the roof when your head is touched?

    However, if it is necessary, good luck man. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi,i am a 16 year old male and i have found it difficult over the past year to shake from the back of my mind that i cannot retract my foreskin very far at all.i have once got the foreskin JUST behind the head but found it very painful and felt sick.i am considering getting a circumcision but am worried whether i will experince much pain after the operation,and for how long? someone please post back i am quite distressed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Chumdiddy wrote:
    Hi,i am a 16 year old male and i have found it difficult over the past year to shake from the back of my mind that i cannot retract my foreskin very far at all.i have once got the foreskin JUST behind the head but found it very painful and felt sick.i am considering getting a circumcision but am worried whether i will experince much pain after the operation,and for how long? someone please post back i am quite distressed

    Jesus mate, calm down.

    First of all - don't do anything to damage yourself. Your foreskin does not necessarily have to retract. Some guy do the business no problem without retracting the foreskin at all.

    If you can have an erection etc. without retracting the foreskin and without it being painfully tight then I wouldn't worry.

    Even if it is tight - I wouldn't worry.

    I was circumcised when I was 24. Twas not painful per se - but it was uncomfortable. And it took time to get used to.

    But, as I said - don't worry about it. It's a simple thing to remedy if you think you need it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭InFront


    Chumdiddy wrote:
    Hi,i am a 16 year old male and i have found it difficult over the past year to shake from the back of my mind that i cannot retract my foreskin very far at all.i have once got the foreskin JUST behind the head but found it very painful and felt sick.i am considering getting a circumcision but am worried whether i will experince much pain after the operation,and for how long? someone please post back i am quite distressed

    If you think you might need a circumcision, go to your GP. Squirmy did the same and despite his initial apprehension it definitely seems to have paid off for him.
    If you dont want a circumcision, some people have suggested retraction exercises and Im sure if you did this consistently it would eventually work. By the time you get an appointment and the recovery is over, maybe it might be even quicker, depending on what part of the country you are in.
    As regards pain of circumcison, I think it is quite painful immediately after the procedure, more so than in circumcised babies. Your GP and posters who have had the surgery could fill you in better on that. But circumcision is extremely routine, very basic stuff, and both your surgeon and GP will have seen this condition many times before and will be glad to help.
    ok I need to know -- what's your banjo string? I *think* I know what it is, but...

    Id like to know the answer to this too, cant imagine what it would be tbh. I was circumcised as a baby but Im pretty sure Ive never had a banjo string:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    InFront wrote:
    If you think you might need a circumcision, go to your GP. Squirmy did the same and despite his initial apprehension it definitely seems to have paid off for him.


    i think we just crossed the line into medical advise.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i'm in the same boat as all you guys, i found out a few months ago actually! GP was a family friend but instead I just went to a random GP and he wrote a letter to the hospital and i got a letter for an examination and 5weeks later now and i'm going in next week. i'm actually just looking forward to getting it done, my friend told me basically if you get an erection that it's very sore cos of stitches etc but that i'll be bandaged up etc and shouldn't be in pain otherwise, his dad is a urologist and he is a med student himself so he's kinda put me at ease!

    anyway i'll let you know next week how it goes. to the 16year old, if you want to go into hospital for the op you need to be accompanied by a parent. Otherwise hold out until you are 17. I was worried about my family finding out etc so I was really careful about it! Also keep in mind you need to get discharged so you're going to have to tell somebody because they won't let you leave the hospital otherwise. If you're covered by BUPA/VHI it's free but whoever is in charge of that will get a letter etc saying that it has been accounted for so I went public and it's only €60 for the government levy but I had to pay €50 to the GP too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    To all of you who have this problem, I had the same problem and did nothing about it for a few years. I finally got around to seeing a doctor about it and 8 weeks later it was all over. I regret not having it done sooner.

    I would say go to your doctor as soon as possible, he'll refer you to a urologist. Of course you'll be very embarrassed and nervous going in first time but believe me after 2 minutes in the doctors surgery you'll be relieved you went in.

    The operation itself is done as day treatment. In to the hospital, gassed, wake up an hour later with the job done. It'll be sore for a couple of days and you'll be out of action for a week or two but the medication looks after it.

    I was sorry I didn't have it sooner and believe me if you want a sex life you need to get your skates on!

    (And girls seem to prefer it without the hood ;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    actually when you say out of action do you mean work etc? I thought you'd be able to go about your daily life just fine except for the sexual part! and how long do you have to wait before you can start having sex after it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,576 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    InFront wrote:
    banjo string
    The frenelum - the piece of skin that holds the foreskin to the glans.

    You also have two frenelums holding your lips to your jaws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I had this done when I was 19 or 20. From my early teens I was unable to retract my my foreskin very far at all, like only a mm or two and it was very, very painful to this.

    Was given steroid cream from GP. Had no success with it. Was referred to a urologist and had the surgery a little later on.

    As regards to the surgery. It wasn't too bad. As mentioned before, the couple of days following the surgery are pretty uncomfortable. Waking up the morning after with a solid erection was less than plesant :) On the plus side however, the swelling made it look huge for a few days.

    It healed up pretty quickly though. I had it done on the friday and was back at college on the following monday, although I may have had a slight limp for a day or two after that :)

    Personally, I'm very glad I had it done. It was always something I was very embarressed about at the time. I would not shower in public, avoided relationships so I would not have to explain why I could not retract it etc, etc. My only regret is that I did not have it done sooner.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    got it done yesterday! gassed etc and i'm fine now, just in a bit of pain when the head brushes off anything!! and the skin is very tender and sensitive @ the moment but i was given a gel to use which helps A LOT!!! Just going to have to use normal painkillers now but kinda hoping I'll be ok by Mon/Tues cos I'll have to go back to work soon!!
    Oh and if you're embarassed about telling anybody, you can always lie and say you have a cist on your leg, it'll look the exact same if you know what I mean!! I'll fill ye in on more over the next few days.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    CONGRATULATIONS MAN!!
    Wahey.
    In other news I have just discovered this thread right now.
    And thanks to your talk of ripped.... banjo-strings, i am now very very light-headed, slightly upset and horrified and I really want my mommy.
    My hands might as well be glued to my groin, they are down there now just in case someone within a mile of me is holding something sharp.
    Cant be too careful.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    What's the name of the gel? What does it do, just help you with sensitivity?
    I know ine is WAY too sensitive. I have to be very careful or I hit the roof when 'intimate'. Need to get that sorted at some stage.


    Congrats. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    What's the name of the gel? What does it do, just help you with sensitivity?
    I know ine is WAY too sensitive. I have to be very careful or I hit the roof when 'intimate'. Need to get that sorted at some stage.


    Congrats. :)

    I don't have the name of it right now, it's Installagel or something like that. I'll get the name for you asap (will probably post tomorrow for you) I'm not sure if you have to get a prescription or not. But seriously even if it's sensitive see the GP! I'm in pain now but I'm really hoping it pays off. Just hope it swells soon cos I want a speedy recovery. 100s of men have it done they just don't mention it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 johnsmith


    And thanks to your talk of ripped.... banjo-strings, i am now very very light-headed, slightly upset and horrified and I really want my mommy.
    It's not that bad actually, it sounds more painful than it is. I've had it rip on me twice, the first time I felt a weird sensation but I kept going at it. It was only afterwards that I realised what had happened. Afterwards it is a bit painful but I wasn't in much pain as it happened.

    The second time was worse, I realised what happened so I withdrew, my girlfriend was a bit freaked out by the blood. I wrapped the fella in tissue paper and went all fetal for a few minutes.

    Abstaining from sex seems to be the best cure for a ripped frenulum, it seems to be alright now but if it rips again then I'll go to the GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    checked the name for you, it's Instillagel. Feels so good when you put it on! You'll need a dressing for it too and just be careful when putting it on. If you're fairly hairy it's going to be a bit more awkward for you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    What's the name of the gel? What does it do, just help you with sensitivity?
    I know ine is WAY too sensitive. I have to be very careful or I hit the roof when 'intimate'. Need to get that sorted at some stage.


    Congrats. :)

    Durex Performa contain a local anastetic (sp?) that help to reduce sensitivity and delay the inevitable....

    *nerd*


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I don't have the name of it right now, it's Installagel or something like that. I'll get the name for you asap (will probably post tomorrow for you) I'm not sure if you have to get a prescription or not. But seriously even if it's sensitive see the GP! I'm in pain now but I'm really hoping it pays off. Just hope it swells soon cos I want a speedy recovery. 100s of men have it done they just don't mention it!
    Thanks, I look forward to your post. (:
    smiles wrote:
    Durex Performa contain a local anastetic (sp?) that help to reduce sensitivity and delay the inevitable....

    *nerd*
    Thanks, I use them. *nerdsex*
    It's not the delaying the inevitable I'm worried about, more the sudden pain. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    A lot of irresponsible misinformation on here.

    Firstly, you're perfectly sensitive after the operation. Maybe less so, I don't know as I was circumcised as a baby, but still perfectly functional.

    Secondly, a circumcised penis is cleaner than an uncircumcised one. Smegma and all that other crap doesn't build up under the foreskin. My ex-girlfriend said it was a joy giving me oral sex due to the fact that I was circumcised... which was a bonus :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    Laslo, smegma doesn't build up under the foreskin if you wash daily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    same thing happened to me as happened Jackie Chan....except my missus thought she was having "them" 2 weeks early. we were having sex and my "banjo string" ripped at the end. very very sore for a few days but since then has been grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well done andanotherone, and thanks very much for your blog of sorts :) - it is proving most helpful and is much appreciated. Can I ask what age you are?

    Also, why go for a circumcision. What was the problem, a frenulum brieve (short 'banjo string'), a too-small foreskin, or the foreskin excessively attached to the head? Was circimcision the only option in your case?

    I'm in pretty much the same boat, though it's a frenulum breve here - the string is simply waaay too short for any level of contraction other than the top of the head being barely visible through the top circle of the foreskin. I'm 22, and have simply never really thought about it up till recently. It's always been not so much painful, as the head simply being uber-sensitive, to the extent I hit the roof if it comes in contact with anything. Presumably this has come about by the head being 'shielded' permanently all its life - the notion of having an exposed head is completely alien, not to mention horrifying to me, at the notion of how sensitive it would be! :)

    I don't plan getting anything done until I leave home in the next couple of years when I can get it dealt with discreetly, even if it means losing out on my parent's VHI family plan!

    But really I have to say this issue makes me apoplectic with rage at how it is brushed under the carpet. It’s estimated that 10% of men suffer from some degree of phimosis (foreskin difficulty), with many of these having severe levels of it. If this was a female issue it would be completely out in the open and discussed, including between parent and child. Of course men by their stoical nature are partially to blame, but if the child/person, i.e. someone like me isn't even aware of the problem till later in life (I've never had anything to compare it to!), then you suffer needlessly for years. I've read some excellent material on this matter and this is a major problem, and can even affect people psychologically - a child/teenager can go about for years unchecked and in pain, simply believing the physical sexual experience to be as limiting, unpleasant or as painful as it is for them, also leading to the avoidance of relationships etc. It’s one thing to keep putting a procedure off, but not to even know you have a fixable problem in the first instance is grossly unfair to the individual.

    If nothing else, fathers should check with their teenage sons as to any difficulties they may have, regardless of how embarrassing it may be; two minutes of mental torture is a heck of a lot better than ten years of physical pain, with other possible side-effects too. Indeed the longer you leave it, the more likely you are to leave it be for the rest of your life, or single life at least – just like getting injections as an infant, you thank your parents for being cruel to be kind later in life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm 18, still young but I actually found out almost a year back. I had no clue until I was about to have sex and was informed about the whole thing. How lucky I was because it could've ended up being VERY painful and embarassing!!

    The problem was my penis was too big for the skin (I take it as a compliment ;)) and wouldn't retract. Also, the head was very sensitive and getting head wasn't very pleasuring because of it! Go see your GP anyway if you're any bit concerned. You say it's because you still live with your parents that you're putting this off? Well, I still live at home and got the operation done and my parents have no idea!! Of course I'm in a fair level of pain but I'm glad I got it done!! And it's costing me because I said I hadn't got health cover so that my dad wouldn't get a letter from the insurance company but it's worth it trust me!!

    So far most of the stitches have dissolved but a few are still there and I just have to be careful when they brush up against something!! The head has actually hardened a bit only a few days on and the banjo string is still attached!! I think for a few weeks inconvenience it's worth it. It feels much better than the months of worrying I can assure you!! :) Best of luck and let me know how you're getting on. I'll keep you posted on how it's going for me! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for that andanotherone - I hope you're not in too much pain! It must feel very stange having the head exposed after so long covered up, what's it like? Is it a bit draughty at all? :D
    How do you urinate, is it painful and do you have to replace bandaging every time? If you were in college or working, could you go about your business the next day or day after that?

    Also out of curiosity, in eh, what 'state' did the GP examine you, i.e. flacid or otherwise? Do you have to be standing to attention for it to be examined? And you say the problem was the foreskin was too tight - did you consider having a slight cut made in the foreskin, known as a dorsal slit, or other form of partial circumcision? Not that I'm trying to medically research via somebody else - just curious as to whether you had any choice!

    For me, paying for it isn't a problem; indeed I'm very surprised it only cost you €60 to go public, plus the doctor - is that all?!
    It's just getting to a hospital etc for me, and not in a million years would I touch my local with a bargepole - one of the worst hospitals in the country. So it would have to be the major Drogheda or a Dublin hospital, which proves difficult for the time being! Ah I'll get it sorted soon - just a matter of timing. It seems to be a combination of frenulum breve and a good old fashioned fecker of a tight foreskin - not sure. Perhaps stretching might help in the meantime, though I doubt it at this late stage. An excellent link here of a person's stretching experience for anyone interested:

    http://www.foreskin.org/phi-once.htm

    Overall though, you do feel such an idiot for not knowing there was a problem for all those years once you find out, especially after 20! In my case I was certainly aware that something was up, and thought that a doctor had cut away too much when I was a baby as the most likely reason, thinking that the foreskin was designed to cover the glans when erect! Of course I was never touched - but until you research these things, you just accept matters as they are, never having known any different. It's quite a shock when you find out!

    Thanks again andanotherone!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I imagine you have to be giving a standing ovation during the inspection?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I have recently gotten circumcised too.i went to the docotrs back in march after having a read through this thread. it hink i have always known that i needed to get it done. Went to the doc's he had a look and said yep definite circumcission.This was done while flacid no Attention standing needed.(i think it would of been difficult anyways given the circumstanes..lol)

    Went in 3 weeks ago to get it done under a local.thats was grand was in at 8am went for the circumcission at 11am that took about 30-45 mins. and was on my way home at 2pm.they bandanged me up and i hobbled out.Spent most of that day in bed.

    Woke up the next morning with a bit of a shock the mornign glory had appeared and it flet like the stiches where bursting open took a few mins to get rid of it.this happened a lot over the next few days theres nothing you can do about it.

    while it was fairly uncomfortable it didnt really bother me the sensitivity and swelling where just a bit of a annoyance.but i had noticed that one side seemed a bit more swollen that the other.which i wasnt that concerned about.That was until i was in unbeliveable pain one night while trying to sleep when i finally got up the next day i had a blood blister on my shaft which was fairly large.panic set in so i rang my gp's they said we can fit you in in 3 days..i thought sure i 'll see how it goes. went to havea shower and cool down.


    the blister burst panic set in again starigh back on to the gp who fitted me in.
    A bandange and a few anti botics and pain killers later all was fine.

    its my 3rd week now after getting it done and even after the pain and the unexpected blister i have no regrets..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    If it is done when yu are flacid, how can they tell with any sort of accuracy if a circumcision or alternative method is needed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well i was diagnosed with paraphimosis i could retract my foreskin when flacid never mind when erect.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Ah, a bad case then. A lot would not be near as bad though.


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