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Upskirts

  • 10-11-2005 2:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭


    Seen a show on tv last night where some guy got nicked for taking an upskirt with his mobile of some chick who was walking round a supermarket in a little mini skirt, she copped him taking the snap on the sly and raised the alarm, coppers mounted a big search for the guy, scoped out the surveilance cameras etc for this dangerous criminal, anyway he turns himself in to clear up the missunderstanding and he goes down for three month (suspended) for "outraging public decency" or somesuch thing, this was in the UK, whats the deal in Ireland, is there such a crime or are we free to take upskirts ?, not that I would mind, i'd take a look if the opportunity arose going up escalators or the girl across from me on the luas was a bit careless in how she placed her legs but i wouldn't be arsed takin a piccy on my phone i mean why bother they allways end up crappy and blurry, maybe in a couple of phone generations time taking upskirt piccies will be worthwhile but not now .Anyway I think it being illegal is a bit daft, and prosecuting someone over it is a terrible waste of resources that could be better spent elsewhere


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭holly_johnson


    Illegal or not over here, if it was my skirt and you took an "upskirt" it wouldn't be the law you'd be running from, it'd be me.

    I think that is disgusting!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Taking pics like that is for pervs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Saw that programme - was on the BBC on location in Meadowhall SC in Sheffield.
    With camera phones becoming as advanced as entry level digi cameras, of course the legal issues are coming into play.
    That'd what many gyms / health clubs are banning them.

    Very trollish type post tbh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    tis a bit pervish allright but what's she doing wearing a tiny miniskirt in a supermarket :rolleyes: again it doesn't make it right but she should have expected something or someone to happen though admittedly not someone sticking a camera between her legs:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭holly_johnson


    tribulus wrote:
    tis a bit pervish allright but what's she doing wearing a tiny miniskirt in a supermarket :rolleyes: again it doesn't make it right but she should have expected something or someone to happen though admittedly not someone sticking a camera between her legs:eek:


    Unbelievable... she should have expected it to happen?????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    tribulus wrote:
    tis a bit pervish allright but what's she doing wearing a tiny miniskirt in a supermarket :rolleyes: again it doesn't make it right but she should have expected something or someone to happen though admittedly not someone sticking a camera between her legs:eek:

    So if a girl wears a short skirt you believe she waves her privacy to be exploited in a perverce manner?

    What next, if a girl wears a short skirt she should expect to be raped? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Presumably you're not operating out of Dublin then Moosejam cos the only person I saw yesterday wearing a skirt was some hairy-faced bloke in a leatherjacket and a kilt waiting in the rain for the bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    no as i said not something like that, but there will always be pervs and people making dirty comments and wearing a minskirt would certainly increase the chances of that happening - it's a supermarket not a night club - though of course she didn't deserve *anything* like that to happen i'm just saying there'll always be assholes around and if someone wants to dress like that they should be prepared for the likes of that guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    What next, if a girl wears a short skirt she should expect to be raped? :rolleyes:

    Nah it's less fun if shes expecting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭*Lees*


    Yea I wouldn't fancy someone taking pictures up my skirt either!!!....
    .... But why in the name of god would someone wear a skirt so short as you could see up it is beyond me!!!.... ehhh Fashion Police??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    LMAO @ OP you big perv you! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    there are kiddie's disco's on every fortnight where I live (Skerries) and the **** the girls wear there is unbelievable, they wear belts for skirts and the plunge line in their tops go down to their navel. these are 15/16/17 year olds, what kind of parent lets their daughter go out wearing that at that age?

    I have heard stories about what goes on in there too, guys getting hand jobs in the corners and stuff, it's sick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Marts wrote:
    ....they wear belts for skirts and the plunge line in their tops go down to their navel. these are 15/16/17 year olds, what kind of parent lets their daughter go out wearing that at that age?

    Mate the 16/17 year olds are in the pubs and clubs, these are 12/13/14/15 year olds that go to those discos.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Was it actually an upskirt shot that he tried to get though? Or did he just see some girl up the supermarket wearing a rediculiously short skirt and took a picture from a distance in more of a "you won't belive how they are dressing down at Tescos these days lads!".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets


    *is dissapointed by this thread* :(
    Otto: Awww man that is blatant false advertising...

    :p
    In the words of Dave Chapelle:
    "Ok, so you're not a whore, my mistake.... but you are wearing a whore's uniform."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    robinph wrote:
    Was it actually an upskirt shot that he tried to get though? Or did he just see some girl up the supermarket wearing a rediculiously short skirt and took a picture from a distance in more of a "you won't belive how they are dressing down at Tescos these days lads!".


    he needed to tie his shoe laces ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    http://www.hedonistica.com/image.php?path=/archives/hidden_camera.jpg

    Two things we can learn from this picture.

    1) Make sure no one is taking pictures of you taking pictures

    2) Make sure it's not a bloke (still 50/50 wrt to that pic tbh)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭BoozyBabe


    Marts wrote:
    what kind of parent lets their daughter go out wearing that at that age?

    In most cases these kids go out in sensible clothes with the tarty clothes on underneath.
    when they get into the taxi they strip off the sensible clothes & leave them in a bag in the taxi.
    On the way home, they put them back on again.
    Or atleast that's what happens where I'm from, so you can't really blame the parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭NikNik


    Upskirts ? Don't see what yis get out of it. Wouldn't turn on a kettle ! Plus it's really, really sad - you must be a complete loser to do somethin like that. We should be able to wear what we want, at least we have that freedom and don't have to walk around covered from head-to-toe like some countries....yet !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    BoozyBabe wrote:
    In most cases these kids go out in sensible clothes with the tarty clothes on underneath.
    when they get into the taxi they strip off the sensible clothes & leave them in a bag in the taxi.
    On the way home, they put them back on again.
    Or atleast that's what happens where I'm from, so you can't really blame the parents.
    sounds like you have some good experience with this :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    I don't see the problem here. I'm assuming the guy didn't touch her. Therefore her knickers or lack thereof were exposed to the world (or at least the world from the point of view of under her crotch). The guy only took a photograph of what surely many small animals and even some children would have seen anyway. Its public domain. If she didn't want to have them seen she should have worn something less revealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭irlrobins


    BoozyBabe wrote:
    when they get into the taxi they strip off the sensible clothes & leave them in a bag in the taxi.
    On the way home, they put them back on again.

    They're doing well to get the same taxi home and still have their clothes in it... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    i know that kinda thing is huge in Japan and i remember seein a spoof pic of girls wearing skirts that had a see through design (just a design it wasn't actually see through) but as i am currently surrounded by families in an internet cafe i'm not gonna google it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    danniemcq wrote:
    i know that kinda thing is huge in Japan and i remember seein a spoof pic of girls wearing skirts that had a see through design (just a design it wasn't actually see through) but as i am currently surrounded by families in an internet cafe i'm not gonna google it
    oh sure, you get all moralistic when there's a "family" around you :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    hey come on i'm tryin to get a good nights sleep for a change...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭The_Goose


    Ok this is my opinion.
    If a guy was to walk around with his slong almost out the would be murder.
    Seriously, a guy in a mini mini skirt walks past and from an angle you get the one eye, police please!!!
    A girl where s half a top and skirt and then expect guys not to look?????
    But i do admit take a pic is a bit to far,but if your not gonna where "clothes" dont go out side!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    MooseJam wrote:
    "outraging public decency" or somesuch thing,
    They'll have to go down the beach and round up all the women wearing bikinis so. 10 years hard labour for exposing themselves, I was f ucking outraged your honour, have they no decency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭pred racer


    NikNik wrote:
    Upskirts ? Don't see what yis get out of it. Wouldn't turn on a kettle ! Plus it's really, really sad - you must be a complete loser to do somethin like that. We should be able to wear what we want, at least we have that freedom and don't have to walk around covered from head-to-toe like some countries....yet !

    im with you its a bit silly.
    Pigman II wrote:
    Nah it's less fun if shes expecting it.

    :D:D:D

    anyway as a bloke you should never do anything to dicourage women from wearing as little as possibe at all times!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    i do agree that yer man was most likely being a perv BUT i suppose its like when a girl goes out with her breasts pushed up to her chin and an exteremely low cut top on and asks "what are you staring at" or "i'm up here". i'm staring at your tits love because they're on full show and practically being shoved in my face. still i wouldn't go taking pictures though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    If I'd been in that girls shoes, I'd say: "Watch out, my dad's got a gun!"
    And he has too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    girls do ask for that *unwanted* attention if they have chest/ass/legs (delete as appropraite) on full view.. i would never dream of wearin a mini skirt round the town.. just asking for trouble!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    girls do ask for that *unwanted* attention if they have chest/ass/legs (delete as appropraite) on full view.. i would never dream of wearin a mini skirt round the town.. just asking for trouble!!

    Well, I don't see why these girls have a *seemingly* desperate need to show off their skin either. They do risk ugly things happening, but they don't implore men to harrass them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    yea i know, but it wouldnt have happened if the girl was wearing a tracksuit obv...there's limits i agree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    girls do ask for that *unwanted* attention if they have chest/ass/legs (delete as appropraite) on full view.. i would never dream of wearin a mini skirt round the town.. just asking for trouble!!

    That's utter bs. No item of clothing gives a license to molest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    yea i know, but it wouldnt have happened if the girl was wearing a tracksuit obv...there's limits i agree

    Yes. But harrassment comes to anyone. I had an ugly experience once and I didn't ask for it at all. I wore trousers and a t-shirt. This guy danced upon me in a bar and forced his groin up to my face - he wasn't naked! And he wouldn't let me get away. It was very disgusting and no matter how much I pushed at him, he wouldn't go. He did other things that is too sickening to mention. I laughed when I was out again with my classmates, but found out later that it had all been really terrifying. I cried and was angry with this pervert. It helped little that my class-mates talked about it the day after and laughed.

    I can fell my stomach churn at the thought of it now, and it's been more than a year ago since it happened.

    I'm sure this girl feels no better herself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    simu wrote:
    That's utter bs. No item of clothing gives a license to molest!

    "trouble" can mean anything, no one said anything about molesting anybody


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    yea im not saying a girl asks to be molested..i wear short skirts out most of the time, but i think thats differnet than wearin them round the town..im sorry, i jus tthink there's a certain assocaition with wearing miniskirts/low cut tops, to certain people in society..think it gives them the right to ogle them

    jeez vangelis that is terrible, haunting probably


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    MooseJam wrote:
    "trouble" can mean anything, no one said anything about molesting anybody

    I believe she is talking about sexual molestation. Sexual molestation even something as "simple" as upskirts-photographying, could be very downgrading and shameful to a girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    dundalk cailin, I just know that I can relate to this girl's potential feeling of shame. About 1/3 of all women will experience some degree of sexual harrassment throughout their lives. It's sad because most of them don't ask for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    u referring to me or simu there in the first post?

    well ive had unwanted attention from guys, think most girls have, nothin like sexual harrassement thank god, but still made me uncomfortable enough that my male friends had to rescue me


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    I was talking to MooseJam. :)

    Well, consider yourself to be lucky! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    thought so,

    but yeah, i do count myself lucky..tho i generaly go out 2-3 times a week, i might not always be lucky, thats the sad fact of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    Vangelis wrote:
    dundalk cailin, I just know that I can relate to this girl's potential feeling of shame. About 1/3 of all women will experience some degree of sexual harrassment throughout their lives. It's sad because most of them don't ask for it.
    how do you ask to be sexually harrassed? I mean is it not like if you ask a guy to rape you it's not officially rape because you want it to happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Vangelis


    Marts wrote:
    how do you ask to be sexually harrassed? I mean is it not like if you ask a guy to rape you it's not officially rape because you want it to happen

    I meant that most women do nothing to provoke or motivate the perpetrator to harrass them. :) Not literally ask for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭The General


    whiskeyman wrote:
    Saw that programme - was on the BBC on location in Meadowhall SC in Sheffield.
    With camera phones becoming as advanced as entry level digi cameras, of course the legal issues are coming into play.
    That'd what many gyms / health clubs are banning them.

    Very trollish type post tbh...

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Pigman II wrote:

    2) Make sure it's not a bloke (still 50/50 wrt to that pic tbh)
    I think thats what he was trying to do :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 closetrasta


    If a girl is wearing a short skirt and you can see straight up it obviously she has no intention of hiding her panties... **** it, you lot sound like OAPS! I know for a fact that some girls like the thrill of people (of both sex's) seein them in all there glory, upskirt or any type of voyeur, i was with a girl for 2 years, when we had sex granted she enjoyed it (i think), then we was on hols in Egypt and she wanted to have sex on the balcony during the day, knowing people would see, she came and came and came! Its a fetish, get over it... every body has em, no matter how light or dark them fetishes might be!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    ..., she came and came and came! Its a fetish,...

    That's one hell of a first post!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 closetrasta


    Hahaha, yeah i know!!! Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    If a girl is wearing a short skirt and you can see straight up it obviously she has no intention of hiding her panties... **** it, you lot sound like OAPS! I know for a fact that some girls like the thrill of people (of both sex's) seein them in all there glory, upskirt or any type of voyeur, i was with a girl for 2 years, when we had sex granted she enjoyed it (i think), then we was on hols in Egypt and she wanted to have sex on the balcony during the day, knowing people would see, she came and came and came! Its a fetish, get over it... every body has em, no matter how light or dark them fetishes might be!
    Pics of girlfriend or ban tbh.


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