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M3 Clonee-Kells route selection and archaelogical info

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    #332
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What has that got to do with the debate?
    People are against the route* - not the motorway! Sure even a 2+1 could have possibly avoided these incidents!

    * the route from Dunshaughlin to Navan - not Navan to Kells which AFAIK there are no significant objections to. Secondly, had the NRA built the less controversial sections first such as the one you mentioned in your article, then possibly todays incident could have been avoided!


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    #333
    BrianD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    cargo wrote: »
    It's not like the existing road is dangerous or anything???????

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1207/rta.html?rss

    Man killed in N3 road crash
    Friday, 7 December 2007 16:03

    A man has been killed in an accident involving a van and two trucks near Kells in Co Meath.

    Two others are being treated for minor injuries following the crash, which occurred 5km south of Kells at around 12.20pm.

    It is understood the van burst into flames after the impact.
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    The road remains closed while the scene is examined.

    The man is the third person to be killed in a road accident on the N3 in Meath in the past two days.

    this is largely irrelevant. Unfortunately, the standard of driving in Ireland is not good and we have major incidents on all types of roads including m-ways.

    The fact that the M3 will be potentially safer than the N3 is a no brainer - Everyone knows that a dual carraigeway will be safer than a standard route. Furthermore, we have no information regarding the cause of this particular incident. head on? rear ending? Other factor?


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    #334
    Navan Junction
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    It has been a terrible week on the roads here - that pregnant woman yesterday, that poor guy in the van today and an 84 year ols woman again this evening. Plus the poor child last week, and this Katy French stuff in Kilmessan.

    I can't remember so much bad news at the same time in such as small area


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    #335
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Maybe so but it all has nothing to do with the fact that the M3 was routed through the Tara Skryne valley!


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    #336
    Xyndrix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43 ✭Xyndrix


    It's also worth pointing out that if Meath County Council and the NRA hadn't insisted originally on taking the crazy detour through the valley the whole thing would in all likelihood have been completed years ago. But again it's much easier to start talking about accidents and somehow try to imply that those who objected to the route are responsible in some way rather than confront the real issues.


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    Navan Junction
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    kbannon wrote: »
    Maybe so but it all has nothing to do with the fact that the M3 was routed through the Tara Skryne valley!
    I know, none of the accidents were on that stretch, and the accident involving the 7 month old baby was on the N2. Just an observation that it was a sad week


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    #338
    D'Peoples Voice
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    The article quotes a licence holder Ms. Jo Ronayne, an archaeologist who formerly worked for one of the Archaeological Consultants on the Navan to Kells section of the M3 Motorway who held a number of archaeological licences for test-trenching along the M3 motorway for the purposes of identifying previously unknown archaeological sites and features that may have been present below ground. The licence holder is reported as claiming that "she and a number of other licence-holders were forced to change findings in reports without their permission, by the NRA. These reports where in turn presented to the Minister of the Environment, Dick Roche, who relied upon them to make a decision on whether or not to grant full excavation licenses, on site which I alleged where national monuments."
    http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15329,en.html
    Meath county council, who represent the people of Meath, seem to have kept very quiet in this whole affair.
    Who is telling the truth?


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