Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

Pauliedragon · 21-05-2019 9:34pm

So a 43 year old claims they can't use a swing without instructions in a court but feels she is competent enough to be a TD. Give her the cash but explain to her that if she can't operate a swing properly then it's in the best interest of the country that she probably shouldn't be in a position where decisions she makes can affect the whole country.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 21-05-2019 9:47pm

Hopefully the judge will make an example of her and lambast her for her frivolous near fraudulent claim. How can any adult with any self respect claim she fell because there was no supervising the swing???

I hope she loses the case, has costs awarded against her and then loses in the election because people are disgusted at her greed and stupidity.

McMurphy · 21-05-2019 9:57pm

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

Unbelievable tbh.

The last one stood out like a sore thumb.

He opposes same sex marriage and abortion

dk6dk6 · 21-05-2019 10:00pm

How did we let this country get so bad, the claim culture is shocking and idiot judges are to blame for handing out such big claims for next to nothing.

Woman slips on a chip in Liffey Valley awarded 30 odd grand despite having numerous claims in past few years. Disgraceful, maybe foodhalls should have people hiding in bins waiting to jump out and pick up dropped foods. If you slip on a chip, it’s your own fault if you ask me for not looking where your going. If you fall off a swing it’s most certainly your own fault for not holding on properly.

This woman like all the others just looking for an easy payday should be ashamed of herself. Her and greedy ***** like her are putting businesses and jobs at risk all for greed.

It’s time judges took responsibility and stopped handing out these payouts.

J Madone · 21-05-2019 11:01pm

Can't find any mention of this on the journal, free press?

cannotlogin · 21-05-2019 11:05pm

I don't like him but thought it was worth sharing :-)

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0521/1050900-maria-bailey/

Force Carrier · 21-05-2019 11:23pm

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't like him but thought it was worth sharing :-)

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0521/1050900-maria-bailey/

Yes, McDowell articulates the problem very well -

Mr McDowell added that "if the Government is serious about driving down the claims culture, we cannot stand idly by when adults lose their seat with two objects, one in each hand, and fall off a swing and then claim there should have been a supervisor looking after them.

"Especially when it comes from somebody who has so much public influence and clearly influence over Government policy in these matters," he added.

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2019 11:29pm

Did this only reach the news because the hotel publicized it? Thats two FG TDs with dodgy claims. Also the fact that staunch Fine Gaelists Madigans solicitors are involved is even shadier.

Leo must surely be absolutely fuming with her. Im just perflexed by how stupid the claim is. It reaks of desperation for some reason or another. Did she see it as an easy way to raise campaign funds? Are there any more that we dont know of?

Its a sad day for the country if she is compensated and there will be real ramifications going forward.

Snow Garden · 21-05-2019 11:29pm

My perception during this Local/EU is that the Fine Gael TDs (with nothing to lose) are talking very arrogantly and pompously. They have lost touch. They sound like the Fianna Fail TDs in the early 2000s.

Sheep breeder · 21-05-2019 11:33pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Yeah that sounds fair and right.

There will be no one or no parties left to vote for if people won’t vote over one members behavior.

Don’t worry she will top the poll, because the blue shirts will put a spin on how she is fighting for kids rights in the play ground and will promise to get every one in dunLaoghaire a big pay out.

Mena Mitty · 21-05-2019 11:42pm

OldGoat wrote: »

I'm intrigued now as to the other rules of the playground. If it's not already on the list can we add "Don't do a Legolas on the slide".

...and you cannot whistle while chewing the grizzly bits of a chicken nugget or sucking on a gobstopper while straddled on a swingswong.

Beanntraigheach · 22-05-2019 2:09am

Help, I'm trapped in this room!

There's a door which I assume I could use to leave but I can't find any instructions on how to operate it, neither is there anyone here to supervise me and make sure I don't injure myself while attempting to open it.

Woe is me!

Odyssey 2005 · 22-05-2019 2:14am

razorblunt wrote: »

She sat on a swing with items in both her hands.
Rule no12 of the playground, always grab on when getting on a swing.
Eejit.

Would she let her children on a swing with their hands full ???

Case closed

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 2:46am

BPKS wrote: »

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The point is when you put a swing in a pub you should have foreseen that there was a good chance that at some stage some drunk person would fall off it.

So what? It should still be the individual's responsibility if they choose to do it and get injured in the process.

AngryHippie · 22-05-2019 3:21am

I've fallen off a swing before, with a pint in each hand and not spilled either of them. (While Singing)

Can I be a TD please ?

malinheader · 22-05-2019 6:15am

She should fit into a government role nicely if elected.
Showing she has no morals ,she will fit right in.

evolving_doors · 22-05-2019 6:20am

malinheader wrote: »

She should fit into a government role nicely if elected.
Showing she has no morals ,she will fit right in.

Not when she prone to losing her seat :pac:

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 6:52am

Pauliedragon wrote: »

So a 43 year old claims they can't use a swing without instructions in a court but feels she is competent enough to be a TD. .

Sorry Paulie, just a small correction here of your post, and in defence of Maria, it actually happened five years ago when she was only 38. *Sniggers*

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Would she let her children on a swing with their hands full ???

As said , this happened five years ago when Enda was Taosieach.

Maybe she's the person with a pint in each hand he was always on about?

As a side note.

Her local swimming pool have felt compelled to install signs in anticipation of Ms Bailey's weekend visit.

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Kivaro · 22-05-2019 7:25am

"The Government’s efforts to tackle claims culture cannot be taken seriously when a Fine Gael TD is taking a case over falling off a swing, a former justice minister warned."
Fair play to Senator Michael McDowell who highlighted the case in the Seanad last night.

He questioned the proposition that “there should be supervisors for swings when adults are using them and that it’s a matter of civil liability if there isn’t”.
“We live in a strange world where civil liability can exist in such circumstances,” Mr McDowell added.
“If the Government is serious about driving down the claims culture, we cannot stand idly by when adults lose their seat with two objects, one in each hand and fall off a swing and then claim that there should have been a supervisor looking after them.”
He added: “Especially when it comes from somebody who has so much public influence and clearly influence over Government policy in these matters.”

The above were snippets taken from today's Irish Independent. Link here.

Did ye know that Fine Gael TD Maria Bailey’s lawyers (not just one) listed 18 particulars of alleged negligence or breach of duty including a failure to have signs or supervisors. 18!
Her lawyers claim there should have been signs or a member of staff to instruct how to use the swing safely.
They also state there was nobody to supervise and intervene if a patron was at risk of a fall, and there was no cushioning of the area surrounding the swing. Feckin' cushions!

Don't forget that Culture Minister Josepha Madigan’s family firm is taking the case, or should that be Vulture Minister Josepha Madigan?
And I apologise firsthand to the scavenging bird of prey for this reference.
We live in a strange world indeed.

What I would love to see is a message being delivered to Fine Gael on Friday.
Do not vote for any Fine Gael member running for the various positions and I'm sure that the message would go out to them to stop treating the Irish people with contempt.

Sierra 117 · 22-05-2019 7:35am

AngryHippie wrote: »

I've fallen off a swing before, with a pint in each hand and not spilled either of them. (While Singing)

Can I be a TD please ?

I'm sorry, but you are too competent to be a TD. If one of the pints had spilled, then maybe you'd be eligible.

Atoms for Peace · 22-05-2019 7:41am

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't like him but thought it was worth sharing :-)

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0521/1050900-maria-bailey/

I likewise used to despise the man when he was in government, but in retrospect he's probably one of the best politicians we have who isn't afraid to say it as it is.

suicide_circus · 22-05-2019 8:02am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I likewise used to despise the man when he was in government, but in retrospect he's probably one of the best politicians we have who isn't afraid to say it as it is.

when you compare him to some of the creatures we have now... he was a calibre above and we didnt know it

boombang · 22-05-2019 8:12am

I'd be sorry if the media and political momentum rang out of this story so soon. For me it's massive. This is a very clear and real chance for our government to show that it's against claims culture and the consequent tax on insurance premiums that is placed on Irish society. If FG put the interests of one grasping TD ahead of making good optics on an important issue, then they don't deserve to be elected again.

While the sums in this particular case are tiny in comparison to the folly of rural broadband and the children's hospital, there's an important principle to address. I long thought that FG weren't quite as venal as FF, but shíte like this tells me otherwise.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 8:37am

boombang wrote: »

I'd be sorry if the media and political momentum rang out of this story so soon. For me it's massive. This is a very clear and real chance for our government to show that it's against claims culture and the consequent tax on insurance premiums that is placed on Irish society. If FG put the interests of one grasping TD ahead of making good optics on an important issue, then they don't deserve to be elected again.

While the sums in this particular case are tiny in comparison to the folly of rural broadband and the children's hospital, there's an important principle to address. I long thought that FG weren't quite as venal as FF, but shíte like this tells me otherwise.

It’s in the Journal today!

Maybe people will now stop with this FG and Denis O Brien controls the media stories.

Which most sane people knew was nonsense.

Adamocovic · 22-05-2019 8:41am

Imagine being a 43 year old politician and trying to sue a hotel for an "unsupervised" swing, and no instructions on how to properly use it.

Absolutley madness. Hope every kid who's fallen off a swing in a park follows her lead so!

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 8:46am

Never thought I would say this, but Michael McDowell talks alot of sense especially in regards to the behaviour of Maria Bailey. If ever an individual deserves to be rejected by voters, she does. I'm sure her behaviour will be mentioned at the next GE .

22-05-2019 8:50am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Never thought I would say this, but Michael McDowell talks alot of sense especially in regards to the behaviour of Maria Bailey. If ever an individual deserves to be rejected by voters, she does. I'm sure her behaviour will be mentioned at the next GE .

He is talking sense but I wonder how many times he's stood in court, argued for some nonsense compensation to be paid out, and taken home a nice fat fee from it.

janfebmar · 22-05-2019 8:57am

Crazy bloody country this. And the ordinary hard working honest person pays for it all.

VinLieger · 22-05-2019 8:58am

Kaysen Clumsy Gent wrote: »

He is talking sense but I wonder how many times he's stood in court, argued for some nonsense compensation to be paid out, and taken home a nice fat fee from it.

He's one of the main people behind the canceling of the luas metrolink because he owns and rents a couple of properties near that single rat run in ranelagh that would be closed.

If it was a politician in office who pulled what he did with the metrolink he'd be giving out about them too, the mans a pious hypocrite.

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 9:00am

Kaysen Clumsy Gent wrote:

He is talking sense but I wonder how many times he's stood in court, argued for some nonsense compensation to be paid out, and taken home a nice fat fee from it.

Considering his time as a politician and AG, I doubt he spent much time arguing for compensation. I believe McCabe was happy with his representation though. Anyways this is not about McDowell other than to highlight the sense he spoke in the Seanad. You can't believe FG when they claim they want the compo culture tackled when their TD's behave in this manner. I say TD's as we had the behaviour of Alan Farrell prior to this lastest episode.

gmisk · 22-05-2019 9:02am

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

It’s in the Journal today!

Maybe people will now stop with this FG and Denis O Brien controls the media stories.

Which most sane people knew was nonsense.

https://www.thejournal.ie/mcdowell-bailey-seanad-4646227-May2019/
The story about mcdowell is in the journal....but not the actual story bizarrely, and the comments are closed

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 9:06am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Considering his time as a politician and AG, I doubt he spent much time arguing for compensation. I believe McCabe was happy with his representation though. Anyways this is not about McDowell other than to highlight the sense he spoke in the Seanad. You can't believe FG when they claim they want the compo culture tackled when their TD's behave in this manner. I say TD's as we had the behaviour of Alan Farrell prior to this lastest episode.

Don't forget about the scumbag in Monaghan who tried to sue his own victim after glassing him in a bar.

Ave Sodalis · 22-05-2019 9:12am

A few years ago, a child family member fell off a swing and broke both their arms. Pretty serious breaks in both, and to make matters worse, they were a lead in a play later that week. Got to hospital, got them all patched up, and do you know what we did then? Told them to hold on tighter next time.
During the play, they actually had to sit on one of those fake swings. Despite having both arms in casts, they still managed to do this, and act and sing... and not fall off.

gmisk · 22-05-2019 9:23am

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Don't forget about the scumbag in Monaghan who tried to sue his own victim after glassing him in a bar.

Yikes who was that? Do you have a link?

boombang · 22-05-2019 9:26am

gmisk wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/mcdowell-bailey-seanad-4646227-May2019/
The story about mcdowell is in the journal....but not the actual story bizarrely, and the comments are closed

Same goes for time the Irish Times. They covered McDowell's comments, not Maria's case itself. No letters to the editor on the topic either. Haven't looked for an editorial or comment article yet. I think this one is ripe for legitimate coverage and comment. I would think there's something funny going on if there's no such comment in the IT.

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 9:41am

boombang wrote: »

Same goes for time the Irish Times. They covered McDowell's comments, not Maria's case itself. No letters to the editor on the topic either. Haven't looked for an editorial or comment article yet. I think this one is ripe for legitimate coverage and comment. I would think there's something funny going on if there's no such comment in the IT.

Yep, friends in high places. Same with the Examiner (now owned by the same owners of the Irish Times .............. hmmmm.)
Frankly, it stinks.

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 9:49am

gmisk wrote: »

Yikes who was that? Do you have a link?

link

Mr Duffy then head-butted him twice, Conlan said, causing his glass to break off the bar. “I fully refute any allegation that I assaulted Enda Duffy,” he told gardaThe court heard both Mr Duffy and Conlan had been in contact with the Injuries Board in relation to claims against each other, with Conlan making the first contact.

Ten Pin · 22-05-2019 11:04am

Alan Farrell was on Late Debate Radio 1 on 4 April. They were discussing insurance

Podcast page here...
https://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_thelatedebate.xml

The one to look for is (about half way down the page)...
"Insurance - Angela Merkel in Dublin - Divestment"

kowloon · 22-05-2019 11:08am

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree swing it seems.

The Tetrarch · 22-05-2019 11:17am

The courts needs an Exit door with a sign on it saying "F*** ***".

Grayson · 22-05-2019 11:30am

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

I'm a reluctant FG voter. I've said why before but it's basically because FF are corrupt as hell and screwed Ireland over the last time they were in power. The rest of the parties are pretty much incompetent for various reasons.

However having twats like that in the party makes me even less likely to vote for them. All FG have to do to attract a voter like me is not be corrupt and not have chancers like that.

Although I guess to a certain extent there are probably people like him in every party in every local council across the country.

Suckit · 22-05-2019 11:31am

Made her way up through the council learning the trade, like so many others that learned that way.
Political parties and local councils...

candyman · 22-05-2019 12:17pm

She is a complete joke, I cannot wait for her to turn up on my door asking for a vote, I will read her the riot act. That is, of course, if she is even bothered to actually meet the people....

This story for me, epitomizes, everything that is wrong with life and society in Dublin these days, when we let tossers like her speak on OUR behalf in political circles...

22-05-2019 1:01pm

candyman wrote: »

She is a complete joke, I cannot wait for her to turn up on my door asking for a vote, I will read her the riot act. That is, of course, if she is even bothered to actually meet the people....

This story for me, epitomizes, everything that is wrong with life and society in Dublin these days, when we let tossers like her speak on OUR behalf in political circles...

I hope there isn’t a step up to your doorway cos she’ll probably trip on it.

Let her stand on the public footpath and shout at ya. Could be less costly

ToBeFrank123 · 22-05-2019 2:13pm

If she wins this case, every gouger in the country will use it as a precedent. Child falls off swing in playground? Sue the council or whoever owns it. Insurance costs go up and playgrounds will be shut down. I can see something like this as a possible longterm outcome of the case.

I hope she loses.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 22-05-2019 2:19pm

https://v.redd.it/gfywp1gngrz21

Credit op on r/Ireland.

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 2:21pm

Regina Doherty has come out swinging (no pun intended) in Bailey's defence today.

Minister's defends Fine Gael TD's right to take personal injury action against Dublin hotel

Beta Ray Bill · 22-05-2019 2:28pm

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Her father's wiki is some reading

It's appalling!

How in the name of God does he get elected again and again!?
He's on he council since 2004!!!!

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 2:29pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

If she wins this case, every gouger in the country will use it as a precedent. Child falls off swing in playground?

To be frank, Frank, I think you may be right.
Soft-tissue injuries everywhere and then people will wonder why the parks, playgrounds, and outdoor facilities all over the country are closed permanently.

You would have to wonder about the optics of this whimsical lawsuit by the Fine Gael TD?
The Fine Gael elite will be around soon to proclaim that she is "entitled" to sue the hotel for falling off the swing. They are so out of touch with the regular people in this country that they do not see the support that they have lost in the last 24 hours by this case.

But they'll battle on ............. and shout loudly at us to do what they say, but not what they do.

Aravo · 22-05-2019 2:30pm

Leo needs to do 2 things.
1. He should be thanking Maria Bailey for highlighting the compo culture which is laughable.
2. Then, Leo should get her removed from FG.

Leo has views on everything, but I bet he will remain tight-lipped on this. Lets hope Ms Bailey loses and gets hit with massive costs.

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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