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XsApollo · 03-01-2018 12:08am

Of course she has juiced heavily.
It’s bloody obvious.
She looks more like wanderlei silva than he does himself.

riffmongous · 03-01-2018 3:14am

finglashoop wrote: »

Is this real? Middle picture looks like 2 different people altogether

Maybe just camera, if you compare the the top left with middle right and top right with middle left they dont look so disimilar

JoeyJJ · 03-01-2018 2:38pm

No information at present about international fight week 2018. Half tempted to head over.

The Nal · 03-01-2018 3:38pm

Couple of nice fights coming up to get us through January

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Stephens_vs._Choi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_220#Fight_card

dulux99 · 03-01-2018 3:41pm

The Nal wrote: »

Couple of nice fights coming up to get us through January

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Stephens_vs._Choi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_220#Fight_card

Jesus. That UFC 220 card falls off a cliff after the co-main. I was half thinking of going to that one aswell. Dodged a bit of a bullet there

Autecher · 03-01-2018 3:47pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Jesus. That UFC 220 card falls off a cliff after the co-main. I was half thinking of going to that one aswell. Dodged a bit of a bullet there

That fight night card is looking sweet. Much better looking as a whole card than 219 & 220.

The Nal · 03-01-2018 3:51pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Jesus. That UFC 220 card falls off a cliff after the co-main. I was half thinking of going to that one aswell. Dodged a bit of a bullet there

Not looking forward to Miocic vs Ngannou?!

Autecher · 03-01-2018 3:53pm

The Nal wrote: »

Not looking forward to Miocic vs Ngannou?!

I think he means counting down from the top. So main & co-main = good. The rest = not so much

Autecher · 03-01-2018 3:55pm

Also Rogan was going on about Jeremy Stephens 1 punch knockout power again the other night, he hasn't punched anyone out since 2011! He has only had 2 knockouts since then, 1 was a flying knee the other a head kick.

dulux99 · 03-01-2018 4:00pm

cliggg wrote: »

The Nal wrote: »

Not looking forward to Miocic vs Ngannou?!

I think he means counting down from the top. So main & co-main = good. The rest = not so much

Yeah this is what I meant. Obviously the main and co-main are outstanding but not much else. I suppose when they put on cards on the east coast they don't necessarily need to stack them to the hilt. But I am surprised that they rescheduled Usman v Meek for the fight night card - it would have been a solid addition to the 220 card, especially considering it was already scheduled for the main card of 219

Lukker- · 03-01-2018 4:13pm

cliggg wrote: »

Also Rogan was going on about Jeremy Stephens 1 punch knockout power again the other night, he hasn't punched anyone out since 2011! He has only had 2 knockouts since then, 1 was a flying knee the other a head kick.

I think he is heavy hitter, but his opponents are aware of it and it's easy to avoid tbh. He's not the greatest technically.

The Nal · 03-01-2018 4:17pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Yeah this is what I meant. Obviously the main and co-main are outstanding but not much else.

Aha yes, bit of a stinker alright but the money is the in the co and the main.

Zero-Cool · 04-01-2018 12:06am

Absolutely beaming for her!

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/948673909003440128

Zero-Cool · 07-01-2018 11:50pm

Will be interesting to hear Gunni talk about his future tomorrow on the MMA hour. Sounds like that KO really changed his outlook on fighting.

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/950116514950189058

Autecher · 08-01-2018 9:32am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Will be interesting to hear Gunni talk about his future tomorrow on the MMA hour. Sounds like that KO really changed his outlook on fighting.

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/950116514950189058

Man the amount of fighters they can get per show is very impressive. Kavanagh has been campaigning for Gunni to fight either Thompson or Till for months now. I think he's gonna headline the London card against Till, he is very popular in Europe.

dulux99 · 08-01-2018 9:54am

I was looking at the next couple of UFC events and saw theres a card headlined by Machida vs Erik Anders. I must say, it's the first time in the my 11 or 12 years following the sport that there's a fighter headlining an event and I've literally never heard of him.

Subcomandante Marcos · 08-01-2018 11:03am

cliggg wrote: »

Man the amount of fighters they can get per show is very impressive. Kavanagh has been campaigning for Gunni to fight either Thompson or Till for months now. I think he's gonna headline the London card against Till, he is very popular in Europe.

Till won't take the Gunni fight. It's no benefit to him, Gunni is ranked lower and coming off a loss. Till's next fight will be Masvidal or Covington. I think it will be Covington.

Autecher · 08-01-2018 11:37am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Till won't take the Gunni fight. It's no benefit to him, Gunni is ranked lower and coming off a loss. Till's next fight will be Masvidal or Covington. I think it will be Covington.

True but Till is still calling out Perry who isn't ranked at all now and coming off a loss. I think if offered a headline fight in England he would say yes without even knowing the opponent.

Gamb!t · 08-01-2018 1:33pm

dulux99 wrote: »

I was looking at the next couple of UFC events and saw theres a card headlined by Machida vs Erik Anders. I must say, it's the first time in the my 11 or 12 years following the sport that there's a fighter headlining an event and I've literally never heard of him.

Your watching UFC over 10 years and never heard of the Dragon ?

Autecher · 08-01-2018 1:39pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

Your watching UFC over 10 years and never heard of the Dragon ?

I believe he is referring to Eryk "Ya Boy" Anders http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Eryk-Anders-93407

DrPhilG · 08-01-2018 1:40pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

Your watching UFC over 10 years and never heard of the Dragon ?

Not sure if you're just joking, but there are 2 fighters in a headliner.

Presumably he's never heard of Anders.

The Nal · 08-01-2018 1:49pm

cliggg wrote: »

I believe he is referring to Eryk "Ya Boy" Anders http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Eryk-Anders-93407

Wrong link, here the correct one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik-Anders

Autecher · 08-01-2018 1:56pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Not sure if you're just joking, but there are 2 fighters in a headliner.

Presumably he's never heard of Anders.

Not joking, he said he had never heard of 1 of the fighters. Anders is the 1 he was referring to.

Gamb!t · 08-01-2018 1:58pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Not sure if you're just joking, but there are 2 fighters in a headliner.

Presumably he's never heard of Anders.

My mistake sorry,misread,thought he was referencing both fighters.

Autecher · 08-01-2018 1:59pm

The Nal wrote: »

Wrong link, here the correct one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik-Anders

Oh so Machida is fighting against an actual farm? Man i'll be an interested spectator that night!

DrPhilG · 08-01-2018 2:17pm

cliggg wrote: »

Not joking, he said he had never heard of 1 of the fighters. Anders is the 1 he was referring to.

Cross posting - I was replying to Gamb!t when I asked if he was joking.

Autecher · 08-01-2018 2:21pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Cross posting - I was replying to Gamb!t when I asked if he was joking.

Crap, yes I never noticed that. Sorry

dulux99 · 08-01-2018 2:49pm

Yeah I was referring to Erik Anders. Of course I've heard of Machida! Haha

ricero · 09-01-2018 1:13am

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/max-holloway/report-max-holloway-set-to-defend-featherweight-title-at-ufc-222-in-march/

Holloway v Edgar to go down at ufc 222 in March

Gamb!t · 09-01-2018 8:26am

ricero wrote: »

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/max-holloway/report-max-holloway-set-to-defend-featherweight-title-at-ufc-222-in-march/

Holloway v Edgar to go down at ufc 222 in March

No ducking title defences from Max unlike someone else.

Autecher · 09-01-2018 8:56am

ricero wrote: »

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/max-holloway/report-max-holloway-set-to-defend-featherweight-title-at-ufc-222-in-march/

Holloway v Edgar to go down at ufc 222 in March

For a very brief moment at first glance I read that as BJ Penn vs. Holloway, I damn near spit out my weetabix!

ricero · 09-01-2018 9:13am

Announced as the main event of ufc 222. So looks like mcgregor wont be back until April or May.

weemcd · 09-01-2018 9:43am

Max gonna have one of the best cv's of all time if he keeps going the way he's going.

DrPhilG · 09-01-2018 9:50am

ricero wrote: »

So looks like mcgregor wont be back.

FYP

Zero-Cool · 09-01-2018 9:54am

Max vs Frankie is an epic fight, cannot wait for that!

Subcomandante Marcos · 09-01-2018 10:29am

Frankie to win and then drop to 135 and hump TJ to death before dropping to 125 and having a 3 fight epic back and forth with DJ to decide the bestest little guy ever.

Useful.Idiot · 09-01-2018 12:06pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

No ducking title defences from Max unlike someone else.

I tire of all the complaining about him not defending but this pic (stolen from reddit) gave me a chuckle

Subcomandante Marcos · 09-01-2018 9:58pm

Big John has signed a deal to be a colour commentator with Bellator. He'll be sharing the role with undisputed gangster weight champion of the world Chael P. Sonnen.

Starts on the 20th of this month and will rotate with Chael on an event by event basis.

He's "taking a break" from reffing.

Zero-Cool · 09-01-2018 10:25pm

Sickened to see him take a break from MMA reffing but he'll be brilliant as colour commentator.

Subcomandante Marcos · 09-01-2018 10:27pm

I'm delighted for him. Will pay a lot more than officiating matches, gives him more job security and adds to his pension pot.

Lukker- · 09-01-2018 10:41pm

I’m happy for him but sad to see him go. The quality of reffing is terrible in MMA and he’s undoubtedly the best

martyos121 · 09-01-2018 10:53pm

Sad to see him go but the silver lining is that Goddard should get more big fights now, he’s more reliable than Herb Dean these days and not a million miles off Big John. Still doesn’t get the respect he deserves as a top class MMA ref because he hasn’t been given the opportunities the other two got.

EagererBeaver · 09-01-2018 11:01pm

Goddard is a far superior ref to big John and has been for a good while now.

Lukker- · 09-01-2018 11:07pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Goddard is a far superior ref to big John and has been for a good while now.

Disagree, think Goddard is overrated by UK/Irish people. He's good, definitely more consistent than Herb Dean and controls things well, but still a clear step down from Big John.

ricero · 09-01-2018 11:26pm

Anyone know the average salary of an mma ref ? I cant imagine it being that high.

Lukker- · 09-01-2018 11:31pm

ricero wrote: »

Anyone know the average salary of an mma ref ? I cant imagine it being that high.

It's not much and Big John/Herb have alluded to as much in interviews before.

martyos121 · 09-01-2018 11:47pm

Over in the US, they are paid by the state athletic commissions and not the promotion so they don’t really make any more from a UFC card than they do from a local one. Having said that, you can earn up to $1900 for reffing a fight with a recognised world championship at stake, that’s what McCarthy got for McGregor vs. Aldo and it doesn’t go a penny higher than that in Nevada.

They make a lot of money from seminars and classes to make up for that, and since they all love the sport and what they do, it’s still not a bad gig for them. Getting to travel around is a nice bonus too when travel expenses are covered.

EagererBeaver · 09-01-2018 11:53pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Over in the US, they are paid by the state athletic commissions and not the promotion so they don’t really make any more from a UFC card than they do from a local one. Having said that, you can earn up to $1900 for reffing a fight with a recognised world championship at stake, that’s what McCarthy got for McGregor vs. Aldo and it doesn’t go a penny higher than that in Nevada.

They make a lot of money from seminars and classes to make up for that, and since they all love the sport and what they do, it’s still not a bad gig for them. Getting to travel around is a nice bonus too when travel expenses are covered.

The flip side of that is that globetrotting gets less and less appealing with age and family.

Mellor · 10-01-2018 12:35am

martyos121 wrote: »

Over in the US, they are paid by the state athletic commissions and not the promotion so they don’t really make any more from a UFC card than they do from a local one.

Not quite. The fee varies between $200 and $2000 depending on whether it's a PPV card, and the size of the gate.

Main event (PPV card) $2000 per fight (was $1900 previously as you mentioned)
Rest of main card (PPV card) $1000
Non-PPV fight $650/750

Smaller promotions where the gate is >$100k. It's a sliding scale $250-650.

These are per fight, so ref doing 4 fights on a UFC PPV can make up to $6k a night. A full time ref regularly on UFC cards is probably doing well into 6-figures. Which is more than most fighters. But that's only a few guys.

martyos121 · 10-01-2018 1:54am

Mellor wrote: »

Not quite. The fee varies between $200 and $2000 depending on whether it's a PPV card, and the size of the gate.

Main event (PPV card) $2000 per fight (was $1900 previously as you mentioned)
Rest of main card (PPV card) $1000
Non-PPV fight $650/750

Smaller promotions where the gate is >$100k. It's a sliding scale $250-650.

These are per fight, so ref doing 4 fights on a UFC PPV can make up to $6k a night. A full time ref regularly on UFC cards is probably doing well into 6-figures. Which is more than most fighters. But that's only a few guys.

Thanks for filling it in, only knew a certain amount of the numbers regarding it, it’s more than I thought for a PPV main carder. The OP did ask what the average salary was so as you said yourself, apart from the few top dogs, it’s a lot less than six figures. Definitely the kind of job you have to be passionate about for the salary that’s in it and you’d be hard pressed to find many refs who don’t enjoy it, nearly all of them are ex-fighters at some level of the sport.

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