Clay Farm, Leopardstown, Dublin 18

JDD · 17-12-2020 12:07pm

c00114110 wrote: »

In relate to clay farm phase 2, it doesn't allow for any extension or alteration without planning permission even ordinarily be except.

Would everyone know about it?

I don't remember that in our contract. I assume as long as you are adhering to the building regulations i.e. you build at the back of the house and the extension is a single story and is no more that 40sqm, then you don't need planning permission. I can't see how the seller (Park) can make you apply for planning permission, post sale, for an extension that doesn't need it. I'm not even sure you CAN apply for planning permission for a rear extension of less that 40sqm.

c00114110 · 17-12-2020 2:52pm

JDD wrote: »

I don't remember that in our contract. I assume as long as you are adhering to the building regulations i.e. you build at the back of the house and the extension is a single story and is no more that 40sqm, then you don't need planning permission. I can't see how the seller (Park) can make you apply for planning permission, post sale, for an extension that doesn't need it. I'm not even sure you CAN apply for planning permission for a rear extension of less that 40sqm.

I hope you are right. But I know this restriction becomes normal in new build home in Dublin.

Will find more detail about it.

Graham · 17-12-2020 2:53pm

I recall this coming up a few times previously.

If I remember correctly the local authority can make it a condition of the entire development that any additions require planning.

JDD · 17-12-2020 4:40pm

Graham wrote: »

I recall this coming up a few times previously.

If I remember correctly the local authority can make it a condition of the entire development that any additions require planning.

Is that right? God, I don't remember discussing this at all at the time, but we had no intention of extending before we moved in, as we felt the garden was too small. We were, and still are, much more focused on converting the attic in order to get more space.

Now that we've been here a while, you could absolutely extend at the back, and still be left with a decent garden. I wonder what the local authority's problem with small extensions are?

If I was to try and get a bigger kitchen (we're in a Fern) I would probably think about moving the downstairs toilet under the stairs and open the kitchen into where the downstairs toilet is now, and maybe into the utility room. That would give you enough room to put in a kitchen island and a bigger kitchen table. It wouldn't give you enough space to put in a couch or anything, but it'd be good enough - and a lot cheaper than an extension and having to pay for planning permission!

c00114110 · 18-12-2020 8:39pm

Two interesting questions for clay farm house, does buyer owns the land or lease the land? And does the house (not apartment) needs to pay any management fee?

Leonardohann · 28-12-2020 3:01pm

Does anyone know of any attic conversion done on an Elder (3 bed)? Would appreciate any leads

the_mountain · 29-12-2020 1:36am

Leonardohann wrote: »

Does anyone know of any attic conversion done on an Elder (3 bed)? Would appreciate any leads

the sales agent mentioned that he had seen Elder houses in phases 1 attic converted already . but didn't see this myself . i would appreciate if anyone in the group would help to confirm this info .

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 4:52pm

Who is currently looking after management of the estate as litter, dog poo appearing everywhere since the greenway to Stepaside opened. Currently the greenway bridge etc full of dog poo.!! Baby pram & shopping trolley abandoned at Apartment Larchfield Hall.

Lots of people traffic from Ballyogan to Stepaside through Clay Farm and many people using playgrounds & eco park are from Stepaside/Ballyogan.

In the evening teenagers drinking/ hanging out at eco park. Who does a resident direct complaints..?? To Park or Savills.

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 5:06pm

Wow.. the forthcoming East Village part of Clayfarm will include over 295 apartments spread over 16 blocks..!! The existing house buyers will be furious as density will be a major issue. Park Developments have said East Village will be private build to rent..!!

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 5:22pm

Since Greenway opened, full of dogs off leash and dog poop.!! Owners don’t give a toss.!! Next phase of development will be build to rent. East Village will be over 295 apartments spread over 16 blocks..!! All apts will be rented.

I’m having reservations since moving here. Stepaside/Ballyogan people using eco park, playgrounds & basketball. Teenagers drinking in Eco Park at night.

People dumping rubbish, old pranks & shopping trolleys..!! In the future along with Cherrywood, these developments will be for immigrant workers..!! Luas already operating over capacity..!! Dunnes full of feral teenagers and council will now build more apartments in Ballyogan..!!

godtabh · 08-01-2021 5:26pm

stop the press! Stepaside/Ballyogan people using eco park, playgrounds & basketball. Have you called the Gardai yet?

You could have either view the pending planning applications before buying or objected to them if they went live after. These lands will be developed.

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 5:35pm

My understanding was the playgrounds/parks are for the use of Clayfarm residents as some playgrounds have “private for residents only signs”

Considering the sheer amount of apartments & houses when Clayfarm is finished and only one small park available.

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 6:02pm

There seems to be still lots if property available including houses & apartments. Plans for hundreds more. No panic, no rush.

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 6:12pm

Over 295 apartment in East Village. 16 blocks stretching from the greenway and across the main road to the Eco Park. 4-6 floors high and consisting of 1,2,3 bed apartments..!!
Thats over 600-800 residents in East Village apartments alone..!!

rxchxy · 08-01-2021 6:33pm

I don't get what your issue here is, you're just repeating the same things again and again. None of it is new information - the East Village was always on the plans. If you didn't want to live near apartments then you should have bought elsewhere. Of course people are going to use the walkway through from Stepaside to Clayfarm, that's why it was opened, there is a need for it there as there was no real alternative. Surely people using the Eco Park, playgrounds and courts is a good thing? I would much prefer people use them than they just sit there unused and falling into disrepair. Maybe you should go buy a house and lots of land in the middle of nowhere if the sight of other people bothers you so much

Digiteer · 08-01-2021 8:34pm

East Village was to be initially houses like much of clayfarm, that has all changed now as the many apartment blocks are replacing the originally planned 3-4 bed homes..!!

godtabh · 08-01-2021 9:19pm

Digiteer wrote: »

East Village was to be initially houses like much of clayfarm, that has all changed now as the many apartment blocks are replacing the originally planned 3-4 bed homes..!!

Did you object to the plans

DelBoy Trotter · 10-01-2021 4:35pm

Does anybody know how much The Fern houses went for in phase 2? And what exactly is left house wise?

Digiteer · 10-01-2021 5:05pm

Around €490000 for 3 bed..!!

awec · 10-01-2021 7:19pm

Clay Farm was always proposed as like a "mini village" type thing so the huge number of units shouldn't surprise anyone.

JDD · 11-01-2021 5:51pm

The plans for Phase 2 didn't change? Perhaps slightly, but I knew three years ago that Phase 2 would have 800 units, with approximately 300 being houses and the remainder apartments. Phase 2 was never going to be all houses.

And I'm not sure why you have the many exclamation marks after the price of the Fern in Phase 2. It is the exact same price as it was for a Fern in Phase 1 - which given the increase in property prices overall in Dublin (especially with new builds) it seems reasonable to me that they didn't up the price.

Now perhaps you have an issue with paying 490k for a three bed house, and that I would agree with you. But the Clay Farm prices very closely match the prices for similar houses in Glencairn and Glenbourne, so it's not like they are unusually expensive.

newbuild21 · 15-01-2021 11:53am

Has anyone had any updates from Savills regarding the delays/shut down on construction for phase 2? Has anyone heard about snagging dates as well? Thanks

clayfarm1234 · 15-01-2021 5:15pm

newbuild21 wrote: »

Has anyone had any updates from Savills regarding the delays/shut down on construction for phase 2? Has anyone heard about snagging dates as well? Thanks

I had to get the snagging completed in January for my apartment - however Park Developments and my solicitor reached out to me saying the site is closed until Jan end.

tris111 · 20-01-2021 1:18am

Hi all, does anyone what houses on the site plan will be released in the next phase?

decorfali9 · 24-01-2021 3:28pm

newbuild21 wrote: »

Has anyone had any updates from Savills regarding the delays/shut down on construction for phase 2? Has anyone heard about snagging dates as well? Thanks

We were told that their latest ETA for snagging before the sites were closed was "March" and that now that the sites are closed it's anyone's guess and to sit tight.

twoeyes · 24-01-2021 6:46pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

We were told that their latest ETA for snagging before the sites were closed was "March" and that now that the sites are closed it's anyone's guess and to sit tight.

We are told that it will be safe to assume that snagging will be delayed by a month as construction is closed for a month.

decorfali9 · 01-02-2021 3:41pm

twoeyes wrote: »

We are told that it will be safe to assume that snagging will be delayed by a month as construction is closed for a month.

When was this? I guess that was based on the assumption that construction would reopen at the end of Jan, as originally suggested by the Government. AFAIK construction is very much closed until at least March 5th.

twoeyes · 01-02-2021 6:49pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

When was this? I guess that was based on the assumption that construction would reopen at the end of Jan, as originally suggested by the Government. AFAIK construction is very much closed until at least March 5th.

True. I checked during early January and now it seems delay of more than two months if we go by the same logic.

Newhomebuyer · 09-02-2021 12:45pm

Hi , anybody viewed in the October release have you signed the contracts yet??

decorfali9 · 10-02-2021 1:34pm

Newhomebuyer wrote: »

Hi , anybody viewed in the October release have you signed the contracts yet??

Yes, a few of us did.

Digiteer · 19-02-2021 10:58am

Heads up for Clayfarm, paving & patio crowd going door to door. They are working in Larkfield Way right now.!! Be careful as covid19 restrictions still in place.

Newhomebuyer · 19-02-2021 1:40pm

Has construction commenced?.

clayfarm1234 · 19-02-2021 3:57pm

Newhomebuyer wrote: »

Has construction commenced?.

expecting housing to resume from 5th march..fingers crossed

JDD · 19-02-2021 4:03pm

There was definitely a few builders working over in Phase 2 earlier this week. I doubt they were breaking the law, I'd imagine they may have been fixing or securing something urgently.

But I'd expect them to be all back on site in two weeks.

clayfarm1234 · 19-02-2021 5:21pm

JDD wrote: »

There was definitely a few builders working over in Phase 2 earlier this week. I doubt they were breaking the law, I'd imagine they may have been fixing or securing something urgently.

But I'd expect them to be all back on site in two weeks.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0219/1198040-coronavirus-ireland/

Looks like construction to remain shut

Carapop · 21-02-2021 7:19pm

Hi all,

Anyone have any information on oak hall apts? Currently under construction, I believe.

I'm trying to figure out what thr aspect is like, where they are in the complex in relation to luas stop etc.

My little head is melted with maps (my spatial relations/sense of direction wouldn't be the best! ).

Ronney · 23-02-2021 3:50pm

Carapop wrote: »

Hi all,

Anyone have any information on oak hall apts? Currently under construction, I believe.

I'm trying to figure out what thr aspect is like, where they are in the complex in relation to luas stop etc.

My little head is melted with maps (my spatial relations/sense of direction wouldn't be the best! ).

Have a Look at this diagram from the website

https://clayfarm.ie/elegant-apartments/

Enter clay farm and they are about 200m straight ahead on the right hand side, so about 250m from the Luas

Digiteer · 25-02-2021 12:01pm

Lots of tree cutting & construction ongoing at Clayfarm now..!! Doubt they have permission.!!
Cutting trees by protected wetlands..!!

Digiteer · 25-02-2021 12:01pm

Lots of tree cutting & construction ongoing at Clayfarm now..!! Doubt they have permission.!!
Cutting trees by protected wetlands..!!

Ronney · 26-02-2021 9:48am

Digiteer wrote: »

Lots of tree cutting & construction ongoing at Clayfarm now..!! Doubt they have permission.!!
Cutting trees by protected wetlands..!!

You're not allowed cut Trees Between March and September so probably is considered essential.

"Under the Wildlife Act, legislation says: “Hedge/tree cutting should only be carried out during the period from September 1 to March 1 as it is an offence, under Section 40 of the Wildlife Act 1976, to cut or destroy any vegetation growing in land not then cultivated, or vegetation growing in any hedge or ditch during the period March 1 to August 31.”

Darc19 · 26-02-2021 10:22am

Digiteer wrote: »

Lots of tree cutting & construction ongoing at Clayfarm now..!! Doubt they have permission.!!
Cutting trees by protected wetlands..!!

What a load of tosh.

ASSuming and too lazy to do a basic check on the planning that details this.

But sure throw out a defamatory statement anyway.

Digiteer · 08-03-2021 8:50pm

Problem is that all houses have main doors that open directly onto footpath, I’ve stepped into dog poo several times and as for all the non resident kids, why are the developers charging the owners management & estate fees if the whole estate is public..??

Qwert6 · 08-03-2021 10:05pm

Hi
Potentially buying a house in phase 2. Did anyone manage to get the clause into the contract about getting the deposit back subject to loan?
Thanks

Qwert6 · 08-03-2021 10:09pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

Yes, a few of us did.

Did anyone manage to get the clause into the contract to stay that you would get the deposit back subject to loan approval?

JDD · 09-03-2021 11:18am

Digiteer wrote: »

Problem is that all houses have main doors that open directly onto footpath, I’ve stepped into dog poo several times and as for all the non resident kids, why are the developers charging the owners management & estate fees if the whole estate is public..??

Do you live on the estate Digiteer? You seem determined to do the place down. Because there are no management or estate fees for house owners, and you'd know that if you owned a house.

JDD · 09-03-2021 11:19am

Qwert6 wrote: »

Did anyone manage to get the clause into the contract to stay that you would get the deposit back subject to loan approval?

We didn't. We tried - even though the Law Society recommend it as a standard part of any house contract but there was no budging them. I hope others might have managed it.

decorfali9 · 09-03-2021 1:20pm

JDD wrote: »

We didn't. We tried - even though the Law Society recommend it as a standard part of any house contract but there was no budging them. I hope others might have managed it.

Same here. Tried but didn't succeed.

seb123321 · 09-03-2021 3:51pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

Same here. Tried but didn't succeed.

We also tried but no joy too. We were told to not even try by our solicitor as "they've never budged on it". Interesting to hear that others have. Also, has anyone got any further updates re Phase 2 snagging? We were initially told March, then May and then this recent lockdown happened so we're really quite pessimistic about being in by even end of summer...

Qwert6 · 09-03-2021 6:24pm

JDD wrote: »

We didn't. We tried - even though the Law Society recommend it as a standard part of any house contract but there was no budging them. I hope others might have managed it.

Yea it's a bit of a disaster and feel nervous about it. We haven't signed anything yet and also contacted park developments about a timeline but obviously they're saying nothing about when houses will be ready.

Qwert6 · 09-03-2021 6:26pm

seb123321 wrote: »

We also tried but no joy too. We were told to not even try by our solicitor as "they've never budged on it". Interesting to hear that others have. Also, has anyone got any further updates re Phase 2 snagging? We were initially told March, then May and then this recent lockdown happened so we're really quite pessimistic about being in by even end of summer...

I contacted park developments today and not giving any sort of timeline. Worried now about signing any contracts given the deposit issue and mortgage approval only lasts 6 months for us so would end in August and have to start process again I think? Not sure how that works.

Clay Farm, Leopardstown, Dublin 18

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