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Ireland u20 2016 6Nations/Junior World Cup

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    #152
    chrstoper
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Are Whittle and Osbourne not in the mix? Or Coyne?

    i'd be surprised if they were in the 6 nations squad.

    might be "in the mix" but so are a lot of players.

    depends on injuries in the end, but i'd say there is quite a few non leinster lads ahead of them.

    Leinster lads who probably will be involved in squad if healthy:

    Andrew Porter(UCD)
    James Ryan(Lansdowne)
    Max Deegan(Lansdowne)
    Will Connors(UCD)
    Conor O'Brien(Clontarf)
    Jack Power(UCD)
    Hugo Keenan(UCD)
    Matthew Byrne(Terenure)


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    #153
    Hagz
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    I would have thought Aspil and Kean would be in the squad.


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    #154
    chrstoper
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    Hagz wrote: »
    I would have thought Aspil and Kean would be in the squad.

    possibly but wouldn't say they are sure things.

    I listed the 4 best leinster forwards and the 4 best backs.


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    #155
    case885
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    Ben betts in with a shout for the squad?


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    #156
    chrstoper
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    case885 wrote: »
    Ben betts in with a shout for the squad?

    maybe has a chance at backup TH


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    #157
    case885
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    chrstoper wrote:
    maybe has a chance at backup TH


    How do you rate his scrummaging?


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    #158
    chrstoper
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    case885 wrote: »
    How do you rate his scrummaging?

    had a poor interpro series, hasn't progressed as much as hoped.


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    #159
    case885
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    chrstoper wrote:
    had a poor interpro series, hasn't progressed as much as hoped.

    Shame, if hes involved with the u20s hopefully it might bring him on.


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    #160
    YZC
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    chrstoper wrote: »
    it will be interesting to see if Coyle makes the irish squad, he was behind three other TH's last year for Ireland u19.

    Interestly enough after not making Ireland 19s Coyle was the only Leinster prop that was named to start every game in the u20s interprovincial games .


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    #161
    chrstoper
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    He was clearly the best leinster tighthead at u20.. but with Andrew Porter being held out of the interpros it gave Bollard/Vakh A a chance they might not have gotten at LH.

    Porter is clearly the best leinster prop at u20 and a certain starter for Ireland he would have started all 3 interpros if he was available.

    Coyle has a battle to be backup TH with Ben Betts and Conor Kenny who were both ahead of him last season for ireland u19. It will be interesting to see if he can make it after not being able to last season.


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    #162
    YZC
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    chrstoper wrote: »
    He was clearly the best leinster tighthead at u20.. but with Andrew Porter being held out of the interpros it gave Bollard/Vakh A a chance they might not have gotten at LH.

    Porter is clearly the best leinster prop at u20 and a certain starter for Ireland he would have started all 3 interpros if he was available.

    Coyle has a battle to be backup TH with Ben Betts and Conor Kenny who were both ahead of him last season for ireland u19. It will be interesting to see if he can make it after not being able to last season.

    Unfortunately Vakh doesn't seem to have progressed well since u19 . Be interesting to see if he is even in the mix this year.


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    #163
    chrstoper
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    YZC wrote: »
    Unfortunately Vakh doesn't seem to have progressed well since u19 . Be interesting to see if he is even in the mix this year.

    backup irish LH is open, not sure who will get that spot...


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    #164
    The Lost Sheep
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    Games for 20s confirmed for over Christmas
    Leinster in Donnybrook on 22nd and Munster in Musgrave on 28th


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    #165
    The Lost Sheep
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    Did anyone go to the game in Donnybrook today?
    Pictures are below
    http://inpho.ie/assignment/Ireland-U20-vs-Leinster-Development/z99Exgbn6GpWKJOt28tKHQ..a?ts=36E2QtW-Ufm1Un3KqOxK_Q..a
    Some of those who played for each side...
    ireland u20
    Terry Kennedy
    Neil Reilly
    Matthew Byrne
    Jimmy O Brien
    James Ryan
    John Poland
    David Aspill
    Shane Daly
    Paul Kiernan

    Leinster Development
    Tom Treacy
    Dan Lavelle
    Tommy Whittle
    Michael Melia
    Tim Foley
    Harrison Brewer
    Jack O Sullivan
    Kyle Dixon


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    #166
    Tarf1234
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Did anyone go to the game in Donnybrook today?
    Pictures are below
    http://inpho.ie/assignment/Ireland-U20-vs-Leinster-Development/z99Exgbn6GpWKJOt28tKHQ..a?ts=36E2QtW-Ufm1Un3KqOxK_Q..a
    Some of those who played for each side...
    ireland u20
    Terry Kennedy
    Neil Reilly
    Matthew Byrne
    Jimmy O Brien
    James Ryan
    John Poland
    David Aspill
    Shane Daly
    Paul Kiernan

    Leinster Development
    Tom Treacy
    Dan Lavelle
    Tommy Whittle
    Michael Melia
    Tim Foley
    Harrison Brewer
    Jack O Sullivan
    Kyle Dixon

    Interesting to see Harrison Brewer still being used at that level. Doesn't bode well for him.


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    #167
    The Lost Sheep
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Interesting to see Harrison Brewer still being used at that level. Doesn't bode well for him.
    Wouldn't read too much into him playing a one off game like this.

    Ireland won comfortably. Wonder if Munster side they'll face will be stronger than that Leinster side...


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    #168
    Tarf1234
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Wouldn't read too much into him playing a one off game like this.

    Ireland won comfortably. Wonder if Munster side they'll face will be stronger than that Leinster side...

    Looking at the Leinster Team there is no one else there of his age... Seems odd. Really doesn't appear to be making any impact at all


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    #169
    The Lost Sheep
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Looking at the Leinster Team there is no one else there of his age... Seems odd. Really doesn't appear to be making any impact at all
    He's only a year older than the players playing 20s so I wouldn't read into it. You will likely see plenty of his age and more playing in the Munster game
    It doesn't say much that his future is x....


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    #170
    Squidgy Black
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    John Poland has to be one of the most built SH's we've seen in a while, especially at this age group.


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    #171
    case885
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    _Tyrrell_ wrote:
    John Porter has to be one of the most built SH's we've seen in a while, especially at this age group.


    John Poland? Another Conor Murray hopefully


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    #172
    Squidgy Black
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    case885 wrote: »
    John Poland? Another Conor Murray hopefully

    Poland sorry yeah :o

    First photo I saw of him was just a close up and I was convinced he was a light LH at first glance :pac:


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    #173
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster development side beat the 20s 38-14.
    Munster scored 6 trys to Irelands 2
    No mention by Munster twitter account of Irish team or scorers but Munster team was
    Stephen Fitzgerald; Colm Hogan, Dan Goggin, Paul Kiernan, Joe White; Johnny Holland, Ryan Foley; Brendan Quinlan, Shane Fenton, Rory Burke, Barra O'Bynre, Sean O'Connor, Evan Mintern, Ben Kilkenny, Ollie Lyons.

    Replacements From: Liam McMahon, Shane O'Hanlon, Brian Scott, Cian Barry, Gavin Coombes, John Poland, Tomás Quinlan, Gearoid Lyons, Shane Daly, Steven McMahon, David O'Mahony.


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    #174
    case885
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    Big win for Munster, presume Johnston, Poland and betts were with Ireland?


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    #175
    Hagz
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    case885 wrote: »
    Big win for Munster, presume Johnston, Poland and betts were with Ireland?

    Poland was on the bench with Munster. Johnston played for Ireland but left the field injured unfortunately.


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    #176
    Hagz
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    Irish team
    Jack Power, Matthew Byrne, Jimmy O'Brien, Conor O'Brien, Hugo Keenan, Brett Connon, Liam Free, Andrew Porter, Hugo Keane, Conor Kenny, Sean O'Leary, Cillian Gallagher, Neil Reilly, Will Connors, Kelvin Browne

    Replacements: Adam McBurney, James Bollard, Adam Coyle, Peter Claffey, Matt Cosgrove, Stephen Kerins, Bill Johnston, David O'Mahony


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    #177
    The Lost Sheep
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Irish team
    Jack Power, Matthew Byrne, Jimmy O'Brien, Conor O'Brien, Hugo Keenan, Brett Connon, Liam Free, Andrew Porter, Hugo Keane, Conor Kenny, Sean O'Leary, Cillian Gallagher, Neil Reilly, Will Connors, Kelvin Browne

    Replacements: Adam McBurney, James Bollard, Adam Coyle, Peter Claffey, Matt Cosgrove, Stephen Kerins, Bill Johnston, David O'Mahony
    Nice enough mix off all provinces and some exiles. Nice number of players whove came through clubs(youths) as well in O Brien, Kenny, O Leary, Gallagher, Reilly, McBurney, Coyle, Claffey, Cosgrove.


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    #178
    kingofthekong
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    Any reason Dan Trayers hasn't been involved at all, hes a player that would be useful against the bigger teams like England, wales and france in the 6 nations. Just looking at the forwards being used in these squads and bar Porter and Ryan there doesn't seem to be any forwards who will likely be able to mix it up with the larger packs and I know Conan will be filtered in but even so it looks like this team are going to have similar difficulties just like last years team and maybe even have a harder time up front


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    #179
    Selliott190
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    Trayers quit playing rugby during the summer.

    Ireland are always going to struggle up front at this level bar the odd exceptionally sized player. Need to rely on skill level like all Irish teams.


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    #180
    ArmchairQB
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    Selliott190 wrote: »
    Trayers quit playing rugby during the summer.

    Ireland are always going to struggle up front at this level bar the odd exceptionally sized player. Need to rely on skill level like all Irish teams.

    Max Deegan would probably have been ahead of him anyway but a pity to see him give it up in the right structure he could have developed nicely. Academies & sub academies overflowing with back rows at the moment after a few lean years 5 or 6 years ago


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    #181
    wp_rathead
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    Selliott190 wrote: »
    Trayers quit playing rugby during the summer.

    Ireland are always going to struggle up front at this level bar the odd exceptionally sized player. Need to rely on skill level like all Irish teams.

    Ah shame, seemed great talent


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