Ireland u20 2016 6Nations/Junior World Cup

The Lost Sheep

Ireland finished 7th in the 2015 Junior World Cup when much more was expected considering the high number of squad members who were competing in that competition for a second consecutive year.

All provinces have games lined up to warm up for the interpros. Leinster have published their warm up games.
19/8/15
Leinster u20 v Irish Exiles u20 in Donnybrook
27/8/15
Italy u20 XV v Leinster u20 in Calvisano

2015 u20 interpros will be played on these dates:
4/9/15
Ulster v Munster in Queens University, Belfast
Leinster v Connacht in Donnybrook
11/9/15
Munster v Leinster in The Mardyke, Cork
Connacht v Ulster in Sportsground
18/9/15
Connacht v Munster in Sportsground
Leinster v Ulster in Donnybrook

2016 u20 6nations fixtures/venues are not confirmed yet

The 2016 Junior World Cup takes place in England with games to be played in Sale Sharks AJ Bell Stadium and the Manchester City academy stadium and the groups are below(based upon seedings from the 2015 competition)
Pool 1: Ireland, NZ, Wales, Georgia.
Pool 2: England, Australia, Scotland, Italy
Pool 3: South Africa, France, Argentina, Japan

From June's 20s world cup squad there is Jacob Stockdale (wing), Sam Arnold (centre), Conan O Donnell (Prop), Andrew Porter (Prop), who are underage for the 2016 competition.

esterhayes

Extended 40 man Leinster under-20 squad

Props
Adam Coyle(Naas)
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine/Clontarf)
Sean O'Heir(Castleknock/Lansdowne)
James Bollard(Michaels/DUFC)
Mike Sweeney(Belvedere)
Nick Rinklin(Clongowes)

Hooker
Hugo Kean(Blackrock)
John Molony(Clongowes)
Jack Hutchinson(Belvedere)

Lock
James Ryan(Michaels)
Michael Melia(Terenure/Terenure)
Rob Lalor(Terenure/Terenure)
Tom Treacy(Newbridge/UCD)
Vittorio Mantegazza(Blackrock)

Backrow
Max Deegan(Michaels)
Neil Reilly(Ardee/Contarf)
Greg Jones(Andrews/UCD)
Will Connors(Clongowes)
Jack O'Sullivan(Castleknock/Lansdowne)
Matthew Bursey(Kings Hospital)

Scrumhalf
Nick Peters(Gonzaga)
Dan Lavelle(Roscrea/UCD)
Rowan Osborne(Clongowes)
Andrew Feeney(Suttonians)

Outhalf
Matthew Gilsenan(Michaels/UCD)
Jimmy O'Brien(Newbridge)
Tommy Whittle(Gerards/DUFC)

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Mullingar/Clontarf)
Colm Mulcahy(Clongowes)
David Poff(Wesley)
Jake Howlett(Newbridge)
Kyle Dixon(Blackrock)

Back Three
Jack Power(Blackrock/UCD)
Hugo Keenan(Blackrock/UCD)
Matthew Byrne(Terenure/Terenure)
Sean Long(Belvedere)
Niall Delahunt(Newbridge/NUIM)
James Lappin(Clongowes)

Hagz

Happy to see Kyle Dixon involved. Very impressive in the LSSC.

Also, I think that's meant to be Matthew Bursey in the Backrow.

esterhayes

Hagz wrote: »

Happy to see Kyle Dixon involved. Very impressive in the LSSC.

Also, I think that's meant to be Matthew Bursey in the Backrow.

likely team, injury dependent.

1. Vakh Abdaladze
2. Hugo Kean
3. Adam Coyle
4. Michael Melia
5. James Ryan
6. Greg Jones
7. Will Connors
8. Max Deegan
9. Nick Peters
10. Matthew Gilsenan
11. Hugo Keenan
12. Jimmy O'Brien
13. Conor O'Brien
14. Matthew Byrne
15. Jack Power

shuffol

Is Jordan Lamour still in school? remember hearing a bit about him last year.

RedemptionZ

shuffol wrote: »

Is Jordan Lamour still in school? remember hearing a bit about him last year.

In 6th year asfaik, was injured most of last year so didn't play in the cup.

esterhayes

RedemptionZ wrote: »

In 6th year asfaik, was injured most of last year so didn't play in the cup.

yeah 6th year, missed senior up with knee injury. Involved with Leinster under-19.
A Leinster under-19 team that could have more club starters than schools.

Pretty talented but very small.

kingofthekong

Is dan trayers not involved??

Hagz

kingofthekong wrote: »

Is dan trayers not involved??

I would imagine he's in the Connacht setup.

kingofthekong

oh ye of course , consideing last years under 20s team's pack struggled in the size department this team looks even smaller then last years , maybe its just me

The Lost Sheep

kingofthekong wrote: »

oh ye of course, consideing last years under 20s team's pack struggled in the size department this team looks even smaller then last years, maybe its just me

Hard to say that yet. Would wait to see interpros before making any judgement like that

kingofthekong wrote: »

Is dan trayers not involved??

Is playing with Connacht. I cant edit my OP now but Connacht and Munster will play each other as a warm up to the Interpros and Connacht are also due to play one of the Connacht AIL sides - 1 of wegians/Corinthians/Buccs

ArmchairQB

esterhayes wrote: »

Extended 40 man Leinster under-20 squad

Props
Adam Coyle(Naas)
Vakh Abdaladze(Coolmine/Clontarf)
Sean O'Heir(Castleknock/Lansdowne)
James Bollard(Michaels/DUFC)
Mike Sweeney(Belvedere)
Nick Rinklin(Clongowes)

Hooker
Hugo Kean(Blackrock)
John Molony(Clongowes)
Jack Hutchinson(Belvedere)

Lock
James Ryan(Michaels)
Michael Melia(Terenure/Terenure)
Rob Lalor(Terenure/Terenure)
Tom Treacy(Newbridge/UCD)
Vittorio Mantegazza(Blackrock)

Backrow
Max Deegan(Michaels)
Neil Reilly(Ardee/Contarf)
Greg Jones(Andrews/UCD)
Will Connors(Clongowes)
Jack O'Sullivan(Castleknock/Lansdowne)
Matthew Bursey(Kings Hospital)

Scrumhalf
Nick Peters(Gonzaga)
Dan Lavelle(Roscrea/UCD)
Rowan Osborne(Clongowes)
Andrew Feeney(Suttonians)

Outhalf
Matthew Gilsenan(Michaels/UCD)
Jimmy O'Brien(Newbridge)
Tommy Whittle(Gerards/DUFC)

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Mullingar/Clontarf)
Colm Mulcahy(Clongowes)
David Poff(Wesley)
Jake Howlett(Newbridge)
Kyle Dixon(Blackrock)

Back Three
Jack Power(Blackrock/UCD)
Hugo Keenan(Blackrock/UCD)
Matthew Byrne(Terenure/Terenure)
Sean Long(Belvedere)
Niall Delahunt(Newbridge/NUIM)
James Lappin(Clongowes)

I believe there was a cut in numbers at the weekend so we will start to see the real contenders from provincial sides for the Irish 20s soon enough

lukey967

Surely Terry Kennedy is involved having been involved with the Irish 7's?

bradders90

anyone know hwy ulster academy intake sitll hasnt been announced?

The Lost Sheep

lukey967 wrote: »

Surely Terry Kennedy is involved having been involved with the Irish 7's?

He might be involved. Playing the 7s doesn't mean that he should automatically be in with 20s

bradders90 wrote: »

anyone know hwy ulster academy intake sitll hasnt been announced?

Because Ulster generally don't name intake until very late if at all.

ArmchairQB

Also 7s running competition during Lenster Cup and during interpros so different training for them lads bit of a shame that the competitions are all colliding hinders rather than helps

jacothelad

bradders90 wrote: »

anyone know hwy ulster academy intake sitll hasnt been announced?

The Ulster Academy only exists in the cloud. Information about it can only be gleaned by two methods. 1) Accidental discoveries - like the discovery of penicillin and 2 ) By using GCHQ at Cheltenham to hack into Ulster servers.

RuggieBear

jacothelad wrote: »

The Ulster Academy only exists in the cloud. Information about it can only be gleaned by two methods. 1) Accidental discoveries - like the discovery of penicillin and 2 ) By using GCHQ at Cheltenham to hack into Ulster servers.

Should that not be Knocknagoney...?

RobbieRuns

RuggieBear wrote: »

Should that not be Knocknagoney...?

Ssssshh, that's a secret !

lukey967

Does anybody have any idea of who is playing for the Leinster Side at the Limerick 7's?? Not much info provided by the Leinster online..

bradders90

According to Ulster's twitter feed, there u20's beat a London Irish Academy side 16-7 today, following up a 48-0 win vs the actual exiles side. Tries from Peter Cooper and Johnny Rosborough and 2 pen's from Johnny McPhillips. Just going to copy and past what i wrote over in the UAFC forum now. f i am not mistaken this may well be another exile. Played for England u18's last season and went to the famed Sedbergh School (also a part of Newcastle Falcons jnr acad). Although i could be wrong, there could easily be a ulsterman called Johnny McPhillips, if anyone knows feel free to correct.
Funnily enough Ulster's that takes Ulsters reported academy to around 1/3 English born.
Lorcan Dow - Whitgift School, Croydon
Frankie Taggart - Whitgift School, Croyden
Sam Arnold - Cranleigh School, Surrey
Sean O Hagan (reportedly left the academy though) - St Benedicts, Ealing
Jake Byrne (all but confirmed) - Warwick School, Warwickshire
Alex Kane (definitely player for the u20's unsure whether in acad or subacad) - Wimbledon College, Wimbledon
Then this Johnny McPhillips who may or may not be an exile. - Sedbergh School, Cumbria

The Lost Sheep

Leinster getting well beaten by the Italian XV theyre playing at the moment. Italians leading 24-3 at halftime

bradders90

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Leinster getting well beaten by the Italian XV theyre playing at the moment. Italians leading 24-3 at halftime

you at the game?

The Lost Sheep

bradders90 wrote: »

you at the game?

No. Just saw a score update on twitter

The Lost Sheep

Leinster did well to come back. Lost 31-27 in the end...

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/13960.php#.VeBK6E3bLcs

Munster playing Connacht today in warm up

shuffol

I see the Leinster 19s were also in action during the week against Worcester and their starting pack contained 5 clubs players, good to see.

kingofthekong

Leinster dominated this age groups u18 pack when they lost to England in the final , are their any other players from other provinces that could squeeze in perhaps Trayers , and I've also heard good things about Kelvin Browne

bradders90

new members of ulster academy squad announced:
Jake Byrne, Peter Cooper, Ross Kane, Nick Timoney, Liam Free, Andy Magrath, Jonny McPhillips & Rob Lyttle.

The Lost Sheep

Teams for interpros beginning to be named
Leinster play Connacht and Munster play Ulster

Leinster
15. Hugo Keenan
14. Matt Byrne
13. Jack Power
12. Jimmy O'Brien
11. Terry Kennedy
10. Tommy Whittle
9. Nick Peters
1. Vakh Abdaladze
2. Hugo Kean
3. Adam Coyne
4. Greg Jones
5. Michael Melia Captain
6. Will Connors
7. David Aspil
8. Max Deegan
Replacements
16. John Molony
17. James Bollard
18. Greg McGrath
19. James Ryan
20. Neil Reilly
21. Rowan Osbourne
22. Matthew Gilsenan
23. Jake Howlett

Connacht Team
15. Tim Carroll
14. Andrew Lynch
13. Alan McMahon
12. Ryan Feehily
11. Jack Keegan
10. Simon Keller
9. Steven Kerins
1. Matthew Murphy
2. Caolan Maloney
3. Conor Kenny
4. Cillian Gallagher
5. Peter Claffey
6. Matt Burke
7. Gavin Croke
8. Matt Cosgrove
Replacements
16. Conal Slater
17. Darog Smith
18. Shane Faulkner
19. Cian Barry
20. Neilus Mulvihill
21. Daire Byrne
22. Charlie McMiken
23. Michael Boland

Ulster
1. Ben Halliday (Malone)
2. Adam McBurney (Ballymena, captain)
3. Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins)
4. Harry Cleland (Instonians)
5. Hugh Sloan (Queen’s University)
6. Conall Boomer (Belfast Harlequins)
7. Lewis McNamara (Instonians)
8. Matthew Fisher (Belfast Harlequins)
9. Liam Free (Queen’s University)
10. Andrew Magrath (Ballymena)
11. Jonny Rosborough (Ballymena)
12. Kieran Joyce (Ballymena)
13. Alex Kane (Queen’s University)
14. Conor Kelly (Queen’s University)
15. Robert Lyttle (Queen’s University)

REPLACEMENTS:
16. Tristan King (Malone)
17. Andrew Shaw (Rainey OB)
18. Rory Squires (City of Derry)
19. Ronan McCusker (Rainey OB)
20. Saul Herdman (Queen’s University)
21. Chris Gibson (Ballynahinch)
22. Matthew McDowell (Belfast Harlequins)
23. Matthew Hooks (Armagh)

Munster XV: Dave O'Mahony (Young Munster); Colm Hogan (Glenstal Abbey School), Paul Kiernan (Captain) (UCC), James McAlleese (Glenstal Abbey School), Lee Molloy (Rockwell College); Bill Johnston (Garryowen), John Poland (Presentation Brothers College); Peter Meyer (Young Munster), Shane Fenton (Young Munster), Ben Betts (Young Munster); Sean O'Leary (Cork Constitution), Barra O'Byrne (Garryowen), Kelvin Browne (Shannon), Dan Walsh (Vice Captain) (Cork Constitution), John Foley (Shannon). Replacements: Jordan Prenderville (Shannon), Shane O'Hanlon (Christian Brothers College), Rob O'Donovan (Cork Constitution), Pat Staff (Young Munster), Ronan Murphy (Castletroy College), Johnny Glynn (Clongowes Wood College), Tom McHale (Rockwell College), James O'Connor (Young Munster).

bradders90

Leinster u20 40 - 7 Connacht u20
Ulster u20 17 - 18 Munster u20

also Leinster u19 scored a ridiculous 91 points unanswered against Connacht u19s. Yep, 91-0.

Hagz

Really strong club presence in that Leinster u19s side, which is nice to see.

The Lost Sheep

No surprise with the Leinster result. I'll be at Connacht Munster next weekend which will be interesting to see....

kingofthekong

Were you at any of the games this weekend ?

tittertatter

kingofthekong wrote: »

Were you at any of the games this weekend ?

I was at all the leinster games.

u20's
Leinster's pack were pretty dominant, led by Max Deegan but ably supported by Will Connors and two hard working locks in Melia and Jones. Whittle managed the game well and Terry Kennedy took his tries very well. James Ryan came off the bench and looked well considering it was his 1st game since Michaels lost in the cup due to a back injury.

the u19's
the game was a huge mismatch. And Leinster were missing a lot of good players due to injury. Larmour was electric but he isn't a centre above underage level. Not much else to say, it was 91-0. Everyone played well.

u18 schools
close game, leinster did well to survive after being down to 13 for awhile. Doris was a huge presence for Leinster. both of leinster's locks were huge men, Harry Byrne plays a lot like his brother.

u18 clubs
leinster started slowly and munster raced to a 14 point lead.. leinster woke up and replied with 29 unanswered. Nash the fullback was very impressive, huge athlete with world class potential. club side still a bit behind the schools side size wise but a lot of impressive athletes in the leinster pack.


ye any questions?

tittertatter

Hagz wrote: »

Really strong club presence in that Leinster u19s side, which is nice to see.

schools backline, club pack basically.

several players missing due to injury to: Jack Kelly, Joe Carley, Tom De Jongh, Conor Hand, Mike Sweeney, Mattie Keane, Jonny Guy.

Granted most of those missing are backrows.

tittertatter

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

No surprise with the Leinster result. I'll be at Connacht Munster next weekend which will be interesting to see....

youre not surprised Connacht lost by 91 points?

bradders90

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

No surprise with the Leinster result. I'll be at Connacht Munster next weekend which will be interesting to see....

no surprise? you expected a 91-0 result?
A "thrashing", "thumping" would be 50/60-0. 91-0 is something else. Will the results against the other provinces be similar (for either connacht or leinster) do you think?

bradders90

anyone at the munster/ulster games?

tittertatter

1. Andrew Porter
2. Adam McBurney
3. Conan O'Donnell
4. Sean O'Connor
5. James Ryan
6. Greg Jones
7. Will Connors
8. Max Deegan
9. Nick Peters
10. Bill Johnston
11. Terry Kennedy
12. Sam Arnold
13. Jacob Stockdale
14. Matthew Byrne
15. Jack Power

Squidgy Black

bradders90 wrote: »

no surprise? you expected a 91-0 result?
A "thrashing", "thumping" would be 50/60-0. 91-0 is something else. Will the results against the other provinces be similar (for either connacht or leinster) do you think?

Works out at a converted try every six minutes.

The Lost Sheep

bradders90 wrote: »

no surprise? you expected a 91-0 result?
A "thrashing", "thumping" would be 50/60-0. 91-0 is something else. Will the results against the other provinces be similar (for either connacht or leinster) do you think?

I should clarify.No surprise at winner but didnt think margin would be that high.
Dont think results against others will be that high..

The Lost Sheep

Leinster under 20s league fixtures just been made. Change to past few seasons with all 3 Connacht sides now competing with Leinster clubs not Munster clubs

Premier 1&2 Qualifier Section A
Blackrock, Terenure, Monkstown, MU Barnhall
Premier 1&2 Qualifier Section B
NUIG-Corinthians, St Marys, Trinity, Clontarf
Premier 1&2 Qualifier Section C
Navan, Old Wesley, Lansdowne, Old Belvedere
Premier 1&2 Qualifier Section D
Buccaneers, UCD, Naas, Greystones

Munster Division 1 is as follows:
Shannon, Young Munster, Old Crescent, UL Bohs, UCC, Sundays Well, Dolphin, Cork Con, Highfield, Garryowen, Bruff

Division 2 fixtures not yet available but likes of Nenagh, Clanwilliam, Thomond, Newcastle West-Estuary will compete with 4/5 more sides

hype101

There was a few players who stood out from this year's SCT who don't seem to be involved in any of the above squads.. Most notably Dan Trayers, but other guys too like James Lappin of Clongowes, Jesse Iredale and Sean Long of Belvedere looked good I thought.. Are they injured?

The Lost Sheep

hype101 wrote: »

There was a few players who stood out from this year's SCT who don't seem to be involved in any of the above squads.. Most notably Dan Trayers, but other guys too like James Lappin of Clongowes, Jesse Iredale and Sean Long of Belvedere looked good I thought.. Are they injured?

Trayers has been involved with Connacht.... not sure if injured now
Iredale is only 18s or 19s.

Any thoughts on this weekends games?
Will be at Connacht Ulster Friday. Most likely 2 away wins this weekend

kingofthekong

Anyone who was at the leinster / connacht u20 , who played better or looked more impressive claffey or melia?

The Lost Sheep

Squads for this weekend - though haven't seen Connacht squad yet...
Leinster U20's
15. Jack Power
14. Matt Byrne
13. Conor O'Brien
12. Jimmy O'Brien
11. Hugo Keenan
10. Tommy Whittle
9. Nick Peters
1. James Bollard
2. John Molony
3. Adam Coyne
4. Michael Melia
5. James Ryan Captain
6. Will Connors
7. David Aspil
8. Max Deegan
Replacements
16. Hugo Kean
17. Vakh Abdaladze
18. Greg McGrath
19. Greg Jones
20. Neil Reilly
21. Rowan Osbourne
22. Matthew Gilsenan
23. Terry Kennedy

Munster U20's
15. Dave O'Mahony
14. Colm Hogan
13. Shane Daly
12. Paul Kiernan Captain
11. Lee Molloy
10. Bill Johnston
9. John Poland
1. Peter Meyer
2. Vincent O'Brien
3. Ben Betts
4. Sean O'Leary
5. Barra O'Byrne
6. Kelvin Browne
7. Dan Walsh Vice-Captain
8. John Foley
Replacements
16. Shane Fenton
17. Shane O'Hanlon
18. Rob O'Donovan
19. Pat Staff
20. Evan Mintern
21. Tom McHale
22. Jamie McAleese
23. James O'Connor
To Travel
24. Ronan Murphy
25. Jordan Prenderville
26. Josh Daly


Ulster U20 Team v Connacht, Friday 11th September, Sportsground, Galway (kick off 5.00pm):
1. Ben Halliday (Malone)
2. Adam McBurney (Ballymena, captain)
3. Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins)
4. Ronan McCusker (Rainey OB)
5. Hugh Sloan (Queen’s University)
6. Conall Boomer (Belfast Harlequins)
7. Lewis McNamara (Instonians)
8. Matthew Fisher (Belfast Harlequins)
9. Liam Free (Queen’s University)
10. Andrew Magrath (Ballymena)
11. Jonny Rosborough (Ballymena)
12. Kieran Joyce (Ballymena)
13. Alex Kane (Queen’s University)
14. Conor Kelly (Queen’s University)
15. Robert Lyttle (Queen’s University)
16. Tristan King (Malone)
17. Andrew Shaw (Rainey OB)
18. Rory Squires (City of Derry)
19. Harry Cleland (Instonians)
20. Ethan Harbinson (Banbridge)
21. Chris Gibson (Ballynahinch)
22. Matthew McDowell (Belfast Harlequins)
23. Matthew Hooks (Armagh)

Hagz

The JWC will trial a package of new laws apparently
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_78289,00.html

The Lost Sheep

Hagz wrote: »

The JWC will trial a package of new laws apparently
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_78289,00.html

The laws have been discussed elsewhere but the junior world championship isn't trialling them. The trophy, 2nd tier, competition is trialling them.

Anyone going tonight to games?
Will be at the Connacht Ulster.

bradders90

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

The laws have been discussed elsewhere but the junior world championship isn't trialling them. The trophy, 2nd tier, competition is trialling them.

Anyone going tonight to games?
Will be at the Connacht Ulster.

Odd to see that Ulster have left out eligible academy players like jake byrne, johnny mcphillips, jacob stockdale. Have heard Alex Kane (13) is looking good, tell me how he goes on.

The Lost Sheep

bradders90 wrote: »

Odd to see that Ulster have left out eligible academy players like jake byrne, johnny mcphillips, jacob stockdale. Have heard Alex Kane (13) is looking good, tell me how he goes on.

Maybe there is injuries????

Connacht were deserved winners over Ulster 28-8. Conditions were horrible but it was a super game for the conditions. Slightly surprised Ulster were as poor as they were. Will give a better report when I dry off!!!!
Munster beat Leinster 22-8. Anyone at that game?

RobbieRuns

Great win for Connacht ! Wet, wet, wet !