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Ireland u20 2016 6Nations/Junior World Cup

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    #182
    Selliott190
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    ArmchairQB wrote: »
    Max Deegan would probably have been ahead of him anyway but a pity to see him give it up in the right structure he could have developed nicely. Academies & sub academies overflowing with back rows at the moment after a few lean years 5 or 6 years ago

    He quit because he didn't have the discipline to be a pro rugby.. no structure would have changed that.

    Also ulster have no backrows. So system not over flowing even if leinsters is.


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    #183
    ArmchairQB
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    Selliott190 wrote: »
    He quit because he didn't have the discipline to be a pro rugby.. no structure would have changed that.

    Also ulster have no backrows. So system not over flowing even if leinsters is.

    You didn't know Gordon Darcy or Heaslip in their early years so :rolleyes:


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    #184
    Selliott190
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    ArmchairQB wrote: »
    You didn't know Gordon Darcy or Heaslip in their early years so :rolleyes:

    Different standard these days.. trayers quit because he didn't want to train and do what was necessary.


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    #185
    kingofthekong
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    Ah that's a shame, especially for someone with his physical abilities, the seven for ospreys that played against leinster last week and outplayed O'Brien is qualified this year for under 20s, he also captained england at u18 level, scary prospect for our lads.
    Any ideas what Irelands backrow is likely to be this year?, I know deagan will be 8 , but im not really sure who the other guys are including if there ball carriers or ground hogs etc it seems to be between these guys: browne,cosgrove,reilly,connors and Aspil


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    #186
    Selliott190
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    Outplayed SOB? He did in my hole.


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    #187
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    GO check your hole then mate, he did


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    #188
    wp_rathead
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    Underhill seems real deal alright, funnily enough he can't get called up for England senior squad for next 3 years as he is has signed 3 Year contract with Brigend/Ospreys
    So by the end of his contract he will be 22 and uncapped and eligible for Wales (unless America can convince him to play for them as he was born there)


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    #189
    Selliott190
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    Never said he wasn't good but to claim he outplayed SOB given leinsters dominance at the breakdown is laughable. Just another person who sees a young player and thinks he is spotting a future great because said young player has a good game.


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    #190
    The Lost Sheep
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    Scottish squad named
    http://www.fifteenrugby.com/scotland-u20-exile-heavy-squad-named-for-pre-6-nations-training-camp/

    English squad named in October - may be some changes but not too many
    http://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-u20-name-elite-player-squad/

    Wales announce their squad sometime this week.


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    #191
    shuffol
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    It's amazing how many SH's and opensides Wales produce, it's like a conveyor belt with a new talent every year.


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    #192
    English Lurker
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    English squad named in October - may be some changes but not too many
    http://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-u20-name-elite-player-squad/

    Don't know about injuries but I think Johnny Williams is the only one who'll miss out due to being kept back for his club.


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    #193
    Tarf1234
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    Players being notified today apparently. hopefully have the squad soon


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    #194
    jacothelad
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Players being notified today apparently. hopefully have the squad soon
    Forwards:
    James Bollard (Dublin University / Leinster)
    Kelvin Brown (Shannon / Munster)
    Peter Claffey (Galwegians / Leinster)
    Will Connors (UCD / Leinster)
    Max Deegan (Lansdowne / Leinster)
    Shane Fenton (Young Munster / Munster)
    John Foley (Shannon / Shannon)
    Cillian Gallagher (Sligo RFC / Connacht)
    Greg Jones (UCD / Leinster)
    Conor Kenny (Buccaneers / Connacht)
    Adam McBurney (Ballymena / Ulster)
    Sean O'Connor (Cashel / Munster)
    Conan O'Donnell (Sligo / Connacht)
    Andrew Porter (UCD / Leinster)
    James Ryan (Lansdowne / Leinster)
    Dan Walsh (Cork Con / Munster)

    Backs:
    Matthew Byrne (Terenure / Leinster)
    Brett Connon (Newcastle Falcons / Exlies)
    Shane Daly (Cork Con / Munster)
    Hugo Keenan (UCD / Leinster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's / Leinster)
    Stephen Kerins (Sligo / Connacht)
    Paul Kiernan (UCC / Leinster)
    Robert Lyttle (Queen's University / Ulster)
    Johnny McPhillips (Queen's University / Ulster)
    Conor O'Brien (Clontarf / Leinster)
    Jimmy O'Brien (UCD / Leinster)
    John Poland (Cork Con / Munster)
    Jack Power (UCD / Leinster)
    Jacob Stockdale (Belfast Harlequins / Ulster)


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    #195
    FrannoFan
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    Ryan, Deegan and Jack Power impressed in school, interesting to see how they look at this level.

    14 Leinster
    7 Munster
    4 connacht
    4 Ulster

    Munsters best representation in a while i'd have thought. Might be getting things together at underage after a few quiet years.

    What was the name of the Blackrock and Clongowes Hookers last year SCT? both looked good. Are they involved?


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    #196
    The Lost Sheep
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Ryan, Deegan and Jack Power impressed in school, interesting to see how they look at this level.

    14 Leinster
    7 Munster
    4 connacht
    4 Ulster

    Munsters best representation in a while i'd have thought. Might be getting things together at underage after a few quiet years.

    What was the name of the Blackrock and Clongowes Hookers last year SCT? both looked good. Are they involved?
    8 Munster. Still major flaws in overall system in Munster...
    1 exile and 6 came through the clubs.
    Both of those hookers played the interpros but Munster hooker Fenton and Ulster McBurney are in the squad

    Interestingly Charlie McMickan formerly Buccaneers, now playing with Lansdowne is in the provisional squad for Canada u20s


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    #197
    Stainalert
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    Great achievement for Sligo in being 2nd most represented club in the squad (alongside Con)


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    #198
    jm08
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    8 Munster. Still major flaws in overall system in Munster...
    1 exile and 6 came through the clubs.
    Both of those hookers played the interpros but Munster hooker Fenton and Ulster McBurney are in the squad

    Interestingly Charlie McMickan formerly Buccaneers, now playing with Lansdowne is in the provisional squad for Canada u20s

    I'd imagine Bill Johnson would have made the squad if he wasn't injured.


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    #199
    The Lost Sheep
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    Stainalert wrote: »
    Great achievement for Sligo in being 2nd most represented club in the squad (alongside Con)
    Huge and that shows the future of the sport...


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    #200
    The Lost Sheep
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    Stainalert wrote: »
    Great achievement for Sligo in being 2nd most represented club in the squad (alongside Con)
    Huge and that shows the future of the sport...


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    #201
    ClanofLams
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    FrannoFan wrote: »

    14 Leinster
    7 Munster
    4 connacht
    4 Ulster

    5 Connacht actually, Peter Claffey is in the Connacht academy, wrongly listed as Leinster.


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    #202
    case885
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    Did Paul kiernan join Leinster ? Huge pity if he did.


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    #203
    The Lost Sheep
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    case885 wrote: »
    Did Paul kiernan join Leinster? Huge pity if he did.
    By "join Leinster" you mean?
    No he hasn't changed affiliation. He is playing club rugby in Munster. isn't in academy. Likely to be in Munster's sub academy. Its a typo


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    #204
    case885
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    The Lost Sheep wrote:
    By "join Leinster" you mean? No he hasn't changed affiliation. He is playing club rugby in Munster. isn't in academy. Likely to be in Munster's sub academy. Its a typo


    I think you know what I meant considering you answered it.
    That's a relief then, looking forward to seeing how he gets on.


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    #205
    The Lost Sheep
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    case885 wrote: »
    I think you know what I meant considering you answered it.
    That's a relief then, looking forward to seeing how he gets on.
    I didn't and was just querying how you phrased the question...

    Match report from Scotland u20 warm up played tonight...
    http://scottishrugby.org/news/16/01/26/scotland-under-20-fightback-defeat-club-international-hit-out


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    #206
    Hagz
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    What's the cut off point for the u20s?


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    #207
    Tarf1234
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    Hagz wrote: »
    What's the cut off point for the u20s?

    1 Jan for Inter pro's and International. Club wise it differs between Leinster and Munster. Munster being 1 Jan and Leinster being 30 June.


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    #208
    The Lost Sheep
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    1 Jan for Inter pro's and International. Club wise it differs between Leinster and Munster. Munster being 1 Jan and Leinster being 30 June.
    Leinster 1st July or 30June not that it makes huge difference...
    All international rugby is 1/1 and that's to do with world competitions and SH being calendar year seasons.
    Leinster have the extra 6 months as they have player depth to do so. Not the case in Munster...


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    #209
    RedemptionZ
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    Strong enough pack, what are the expectations?


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    #210
    case885
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    Is Ben betts injured or well down the pecking order?


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    #211
    ArmchairQB
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    RedemptionZ wrote: »
    Strong enough pack, what are the expectations?

    For some reason I am not particularly excited about the 20s this year and think it will be an average enough team which probably means they will have great season:)


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