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Saorview Connect

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It is not too good either.
    Besides two sets of channels lists to deal with, you will have two HDDs to record to as well as other 'gotchas'.
    Saorview Connect doesn't solve any of the gotcha's either, you are still going to need TWO boxes OR a pay every month contract with Sky/Virgin/Eir/Vodafone etc.

    A genuine Freesat box is idiot-proof and stuff like Auto channel Tune, EPG, Series link, Red button all just work. And most of the content on Virgin is on Freesat earlier and in HD. If you can only afford one box FreeSat is the way to go and stick a USB key in the telly.


    You could roll your own Linux box, but you don't want to be supporting it over the phone for a technophobe relative. It does make a nice top-up box though for the non-FreeSat channels and you can get 7 day EPG off the interwebs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    It does make a nice top-up box though for the non-FreeSat channels and you can get 7 day EPG off the interwebs.

    Crossepg pulls it from satellite and saves it locally, no need for an internet connection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    A new tv won't make any difference as it will still just have the 1 terrestrial tuner. Most tvs seem to come with 1 terrestrial and 1 satellite tuner (often referred to as dual tuners).

    Even the Tiviar that the lads mention on here requires an extra usb tuner in order to watch rte 1 and record rte 2 at the one time.

    It is not a huge issue for me as you can always use the rte player to catch up and if saorview get their act together we might be able to stream live tv through the player and connected devices.

    You can see though why Sky works for many people. Watch any channel and record any other - no messing about.
    The downside of Sky is that the catchup is terrible and I presume you can't change the dns on the box to access uk players. You are then reliant on a smart tv with that ability.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Crossepg pulls it from satellite and saves it locally, no need for an internet connection
    I've given up on CrossEpg and gone for EPG importer for Italian channels.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    I'm pretty sure (but open to correction) that some Sony Android TV's (KDxxXF85xx for example) have 2 DTT and 2 DSat tuners.

    Not sure how good the recording is though as I've not personally tested it much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    A new tv won't make any difference as it will still just have the 1 terrestrial tuner. Most tvs seem to come with 1 terrestrial and 1 satellite tuner (often referred to as dual tuners).

    Even the Tiviar that the lads mention on here requires an extra usb tuner in order to watch rte 1 and record rte 2 at the one time.

    Oh dear ...... how inconvenient to have to spend maybe €10 and plug in a USB dongle to get the extra function you require!

    Can you get extra functions on a Sky box as easily and cheaply as this?
    It is not a huge issue for me as you can always use the rte player to catch up and if saorview get their act together we might be able to stream live tv through the player and connected devices.

    Certainly not an issue for me at all, as I can record all RTE channels at the same time if I wish, without ever using the TV tuner.
    You can see though why Sky works for many people. Watch any channel and record any other - no messing about.
    The downside of Sky is that the catchup is terrible and I presume you can't change the dns on the box to access uk players. You are then reliant on a smart tv with that ability.

    The downside of Sky is that they charge exorbitant amounts of money in subs for what are mostly Free to Air channels, with extra payments required for things like HD and multiroom/multi-device use which is the norm for some of us without subs to pay.

    Of course everyone in my household can watch or record different channels also.

    All these things can be done, and much more.

    Do not expect the likes of Sky or others to do them for you ...... they cater to the lowest common denominator, to sell as many subscriptions as possible with the least effort on their part.

    If you do not put in the effort to learn how and spend some time doing it then just accept what you are given and pay the man, and be satisfied with your lot.

    We each have that choice. ;)

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I haven't seen anyone mention what recordings look like on the tiviar.
    Are programmes grouped according to programme title and can you pick up watching where you left a recording?

    Recording is a big issue with just using a tv (instead of a stb) as I presume the recordings are just thrown together (no series link). Are they recorded with their title or just the station name?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I haven't seen anyone mention what recordings look like on the tiviar.
    Are programmes grouped according to programme title and can you pick up watching where you left a recording?

    Recording is a big issue with just using a tv (instead of a stb) as I presume the recordings are just thrown together (no series link). Are they recorded with their title or just the station name?

    The recordings have series name, channel name, time and date in the title. There's an add-on can't remember the name that groups recordings of the same show in their own subfolder. You can also stop and resume where you left off when watching them in the media player, in fact I have 2 boxes networked (Tiviar and Edison running OpenATV) and can stop on one and resume on the other. Enigma recording is comparable to the best Freesat boxes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    If you do not put in the effort to learn how and spend some time doing it then just accept what you are given and pay the man, and be satisfied with your lot.

    Do not expect the likes of Sky or others to do them for you ...... they cater to the lowest common denominator, to sell as many subscriptions as possible with the least effort on their part.

    We each have that choice.


    How do you have this system? Are you using a server with tvheadend connected through the home network or so you have several boxes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    How do you have this system? Are you using a server with tvheadend connected through the home network or so you have several boxes?

    Yes I use 'separates', just like I did with my sound system.
    There I had separate amplifier, tuner, two cassette decks, record deck, DVD deck and separate speakers.
    I never took to the 3-in-1 / all-in-1 combined units because the compromises on quality and functionality were too great.
    In addition if one device failed I did not have to replace the whole lot, just the one part of the system.

    I have now (eventually) taken the same approach to the TV system.
    It is distributed over the LAN, not coax, which was easier to fit, and useful for internet access as well as TV etc.

    I have
    DVB-S tuner box
    DVB-T tuner box
    tiny (4"x4";$40) tvheadend server box managing all aspects of the tuners
    tiny (4"x4";$40) client device at each TV
    NAS/File Server for storage of recorded material and other media

    I had previously used 'off the shelf' stbs, become annoyed with their limitations, built my own HTPC which IMO was also too limiting and bulky having everything centralised, so moved to this separates system.
    I am very glad I did.
    I can now simply replace any component of the system that might be required to do some extra grunt-work without starting out all over again.
    Example:- I might wish one TV to be 8K (future?), so then I will need a client box for that TV which is well capable of displaying this, while other TV clients can be undisturbed and not replaced.
    Also of course all media is available to all devices that can access the LAN, including (if I wish) remote devices accessing over the internet.

    Such a system is definitely not for everyone.
    It does require some initial commitment and learning to put together.

    It is up to the individual to decide whether the effort is worth the result.
    ;)


    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Irreverent


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Do these plugins work? The last time I had an enigma2 set-up none of the plugins worked. It was an Amino Alien 2 so maybe the hardware was powerful enough!

    I am considering an E2 set-up again but this time I will buy a future proofed box with high specs as the cheap boxes don't have the hardware specs to cope with multiple recording, particularly if you are recording a HD channel while watching a second HD channel.

    If you are considering going down this route you could do worse than looking at the Gigablue UHD UE quad. This is a very powerful box with 4 standard tuners (FCB modules so future proofed in that regard. The box has just been excellent so far running Openatv and its multiroom capability is excellent. I have a xiaomi mi android TV box with Dreamplayer installed and have all my living room channels available in a second room.

    The Gigablue is pricier than the Tiviar (which is also a good box) but to my mind when ditching sky was worth the extra euros. About 320 was the price on sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Irreverent wrote: »
    If you are considering going down this route you could do worse than looking at the Gigablue UHD UE quad. This is a very powerful box with 4 standard tuners (FCB modules so future proofed in that regard. The box has just been excellent so far running Openatv and its multiroom capability is excellent. I have a xiaomi mi android TV box with Dreamplayer installed and have all my living room channels available in a second room.

    The Gigablue is pricier than the Tiviar (which is also a good box) but to my mind when ditching sky was worth the extra euros. About 320 was the price on sale.

    That box, with the addition of a dual DVB-T/2/C tuner and internal HDD would seem to cover all the bases for a large household.

    About £300 for the full spec would, to me, seem to be a good buy.

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/gigablue-uhd-ue-4k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    That box, with the addition of a dual DVB-T/2/C tuner and internal HDD would seem to cover all the bases for a large household.

    About £300 for the full spec would, to me, seem to be a good buy.

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/gigablue-uhd-ue-4k

    Or is other words about a years sub for some Sky victims ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Or is other words about a years sub for some Sky victims ;)

    And about three months for others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Or is other words about a years sub for some Sky victims ;)

    That will only get you a selection of mostly free channels :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    That will only get you a selection of mostly free channels :-)

    Exactly my point


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    That will only get you a selection of mostly free channels :-)
    If you want Sports or the Latest movies you are going to be bled.

    Top up Free to Air with Netflix or similar, buy boxsets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Wow. It is hard to believe that this thread was started 5 years ago. From a simple idea has developed the technical behemoth that is now Saorview Connect. Lol!

    I can't wait to see what the next 5 years brings us!!! Saorview Disconnect maybe????


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    A little bit of help here asked for. Was planning to get a saorview connect box for my Dad. He is 85 and his current saorview enabled TV needs constant retuning. It's 5 years old. I can set it up for him but will it need constant retuning? He has reasonable broadband 13mb. Will this be sufficient? Thanks in advance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Saorview connect will be no different with regards to re tuning as it does not auto update . You mention "constant" though, how often are you taking about as frequency changes don't happen that often ?

    A little bit of help here asked for. Was planning to get a saorview connect box for my Dad. He is 85 and his current saorview enabled TV needs constant retuning. It's 5 years old. I can set it up for him but will it need constant retuning? He has reasonable broadband 13mb. Will this be sufficient? Thanks in advance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    The saorview side should automatically update any frequency changes as it runs the same software as freesat.

    They have also 'promised' to update the satellite side with any frequency changes. However I think that promise comes from the box supplier Shomar rather than saorview themselves.

    Does your father want catch up tv and how able is he to navigate tv menus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    To my knowledge it will not auto update Saorview, how would it know what transmitter to update ?
    The saorview side should automatically update any frequency changes as it runs the same software as freesat.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    Tony wrote: »
    Saorview connect will be no different with regards to re tuning as it does not auto update . You mention "constant" though, how often are you taking about as frequency changes don't happen that often ?
    I don't know how often it needs updating as it depends on when he mentions it as not working. The TV is free Sat and saorview and I think it was a bad buy. Dies the SV connect have internet connectivity and what channels come with that. Tia


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    The saorview side should automatically update any frequency changes as it runs the same software as freesat.

    They have also 'promised' to update the satellite side with any frequency changes. However I think that promise comes from the box supplier Shomar rather than saorview themselves.

    Does your father want catch up tv and how able is he to navigate tv menus?

    No need for catch up. It's more stability I would look for. Will it pick up freesat and saorview and is it dependable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Tony wrote: »
    To my knowledge it will not auto update Saorview, how would it know what transmitter to update ?

    Well I guess satellite is different. But would the box not read the transmitter info collected on first tuning and then just update on that. That is hardly a big task.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Pastor Brent


    Apparently only 600 boxes have sold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    No need for catch up. It's more stability I would look for. Will it pick up freesat and saorview and is it dependable.

    Right now the box couldn't be recommended as it has bugs and doesn't have recording functions enabled. They are due to come.

    The lads on here recommend a box called Tiviar Alpha plus. It is in the satellite forum. It is not ready out of the box but has all channels on it.
    However, we don't know if saorview will somehow stop functions working on that box, e.g. series link. They have done it in the past.

    Your other option is Sky but that is €500+ per year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Right now the box couldn't be recommended as it has bugs and doesn't have recording functions enabled. They are due to come.

    The lads on here recommend a box called Tiviar Alpha plus. It is in the satellite forum. It is not ready out of the box but has all channels on it.
    However, we don't know if saorview will somehow stop functions working on that box, e.g. series link. They have done it in the past.

    Your other option is Sky but that is €500+ per year.

    There's nothing to turn off. Series link on Enigma 2 is a plugin called autotimers that creates custom repeating searches of the 7 day EPG based on the parameters you set. Search on X day, on Y channel, between the hours of A and B etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Ok when you say its not working are we talking about one or two channels on satellite ? If its more than that it sounds like an issue other than updating frequency. If its an actual Freesat branded TV with a freesat logo then it should auto update Uk channels
    I don't know how often it needs updating as it depends on when he mentions it as not working. The TV is free Sat and saorview and I think it was a bad buy. Dies the SV connect have internet connectivity and what channels come with that. Tia

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    No, as it is now it would require a new scan initiated by the user. Bear in mind that freesat has its own data feed on a separate default transponder already coded into the box and also available to FTA boxes that use " network scan". As saorview uses different frequencies/transponders in each area this would be impractical to implement.
    Well I guess satellite is different. But would the box not read the transmitter info collected on first tuning and then just update on that. That is hardly a big task.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    Tony wrote: »
    Ok when you say its not working are we talking about one or two channels on satellite ? If its more than that it sounds like an issue other than updating frequency. If its an actual Freesat branded TV with a freesat logo then it should auto update Uk channels
    When I go to check it seems to be most channels. I'm not sure was it a branded TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tony wrote: »
    No, as it is now it would require a new scan initiated by the user. Bear in mind that freesat has its own data feed on a separate default transponder already coded into the box and also available to FTA boxes that use " network scan". As saorview uses different frequencies/transponders in each area this would be impractical to implement.

    I don't get that Tony.
    If I set up my STB to receive from Three Rock, then that info could very easily be stored in the STB, and if Three Rock alters parameters, it would be a simple matter to track that in the STB and autoupdate the relevant info.

    I understand it does not do so, but I don't see any difficulty in its implementation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    If its most channels then its most likely there is a problem with the system itself. If a broadcaster makes a chnage its rare enough and only involves a few channels.

    When I go to check it seems to be most channels. I'm not sure was it a branded TV.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Its not difficult per se but it would require a separate dedicated data feed on each transmitter. You could do it over the internet but then you would have to implement some way of locating the box and even then the box might be on a different transmitter than the one recommended by the Saorview coverage database/map . Much easier and cheaper to ask customers to carry out an autoscan on a pre determined date/time especially since connect boxes account for only a fraction of the viewership at present.

    That's how it was done on the last saorview frequency change.

    I don't get that Tony.
    If I set up my STB to receive from Three Rock, then that info could very easily be stored in the STB, and if Three Rock alters parameters, it would be a simple matter to track that in the STB and autoupdate the relevant info.

    I understand it does not do so, but I don't see any difficulty in its implementation.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tony wrote: »
    Its not difficult per se but it would require a separate dedicated data feed on each transmitter. You could do it over the internet but then you would have to implement some way of locating the box and even then the box might be on a different transmitter than the one recommended by the Saorview coverage database/map . Much easier and cheaper to ask customers to carry out an autoscan on a pre determined date/time especially since connect boxes account for only a fraction of the viewership at present.

    That's how it was done on the last saorview frequency change.

    No doubt at all it is easier on RTE ..... just not as convenient for the customer.
    Also I think you are making it sound much more difficult than it necessarily is.
    For instance the tuning details for each individual mast are freely available so others can use them.
    That the Saorview box does not do so automatically is a bit odd. It would do if whoever is responsible for development bothered their barney!

    All it would take is that the Connect box would check with home at each boot (or determined by some other parameter) to ensure it has the correct tuning details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Well if you know an easy way to do this then I'm sure saorview and lots of others would be interested. Freeview does it by triggering an auto scan as far as I know but that's the same as the customer doing the same thing.

    Its not just about "bothering their barney" there are cost implications too for transmitter infrastructure. As for the box "checking with home" what method do you suggest for location reporting ? As I've said previously the box could be in an area where reception of two transmitters is possible.

    No doubt at all it is easier on RTE ..... just not as convenient for the customer.
    Also I think you are making it sound much more difficult than it necessarily is.
    For instance the tuning details for each individual mast are freely available so others can use them.
    That the Saorview box does not do so automatically is a bit odd. It would do if whoever is responsible for development bothered their barney!

    All it would take is that the Connect box would check with home at each boot (or determined by some other parameter) to ensure it has the correct tuning details.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tony wrote: »
    Well if you know an easy way to do this then I'm sure saorview and lots of others would be interested. Freeview does it by triggering an auto scan as far as I know but that's the same as the customer doing the same thing.

    Its not just about "bothering their barney" there are cost implications too for transmitter infrastructure. As for the box "checking with home" what method do you suggest for location reporting ? As I've said previously the box could be in an area where reception of two transmitters is possible.

    Quite simply, as was suggested in a previous post, use the mast selected on initial set up.
    I am equally sure Saorview have no interest in making things easier for the user ..... and the history of this box supports that view.
    This box is connected to the internet for its various functions.
    A few bytes of data is all that is involved in the box requesting the info and it being delivered.
    There would be no huge cost involved.
    OK, a small % would not have internet connection and would need to be manually retuned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Firstly I never said there would be a huge cost involved but I'm not sure how you know that it would be small? You still have not answered my question as to how the box would know its location or what transmitter it should tune to?

    I'd really appreciate it if you did not put words in my mouth .

    Its really easy to speculate on how things might work, implementing them is a another thing altogether . BTW I'm not defending the box any any means just pointing out the reasons why it does not have auto update so far. It should be borne in mind that saorview frequency changes happen very very rarely so this really is a non issue.

    I'll leave it at that.

    Quite simply, as was suggested in a previous post, use the mast selected on initial set up.
    I am equally sure Saorview have no interest in making things easier for the user ..... and the history of this box supports that view.
    This box is connected to the internet for its various functions.
    A few bytes of data is all that is involved in the box requesting the info and it being delivered.
    There would be no huge cost involved.
    OK, a small % would not have internet connection and would need to be manually retuned.

    I have no idea from where you thing the huge cost would come or the difficulty either, TBH.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tony wrote: »
    Firstly I never said there would be a huge cost involved but I'm not sure how you know that it would be small? You still have not answered my question as to how the box would know its location or what transmitter it should tune to?

    Read the first sentence of my last reply.

    Also I previously posted
    If I set up my STB to receive from Three Rock, then that info could very easily be stored in the STB, and if Three Rock alters parameters, it would be a simple matter to track that in the STB and autoupdate the relevant info.
    I'd really appreciate it if you did not put words in my mouth .

    I did not think I did when I posted ....
    There would be no huge cost involved.

    I also mentioned a few bytes of data being exchanged as all that would be necessary to keep the info updated.
    That has minimal cost to both server and user.
    Its really easy to speculate on how things might work, implementing them is a another thing altogether . BTW I'm not defending the box any any means just pointing out the reasons why it does not have auto update so far. It should be borne in mind that saorview frequency changes happen very very rarely so this really is a non issue.

    I'll leave it at that.

    I also have posted about the rarity of changes in Saorview, and for the likes of FTA STBs I see no hassle in users making the changes manually when/if they arise.
    I have different expectations from a box produced primarily for the Saorview service, and how easy (or not) they have made it for the user.

    In truth I did not get any reason for it not being present from your posts, except your "it would be be impractical to implement".
    It is not technically difficult, nor is it costly.
    That does not seems to leave a lot of reasons.

    Yes, let's leave it at that.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I was under the impression the Saorview did OTA upgrades for software.

    So, when the box is tuned, the firmware notes the transmitter tuned in. Prior to a frequency change, the Saorview signal broadcasts an update message that gives the transmitter ID, new frequency, date and time of change. The firmware then updates the new frequency at that time.

    This could work for individual transmitters, or all transmitters are updated in one go, with some unchanged while others change. As has been pointed out, such changes are rare.

    Freesat does this by using a postcode, and updates at 3 am everyday, assuming the receiver is in standby.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Hi

    The Saorview side of the box will update automatically so there will be no problem with the Irish channels - RTE1, RTE2. TG$, Virgin Media1/2/3, and radio channels. I imagine 13 mb should be sufficient to stream from the RTE Player and TG4 Players.

    However, the UK Satellite side needs to be tuned by you. If the channels change, you can do a small tune and it will add the new channel to the box. You can order the channels also, but be careful with this. I usually drop the channel numbers down (ie., if UK channels start with the number 1000, when reordering them I will pull the channels down to start from number 980. That gives me plenty of room to move channels about and stop clashing of channel numbers. If you have two channels on the same number (e.g. 1001) then the channels won't open so you need to renumber them).

    The UK side only gives now and next listings and only if you click on the channel.

    Recording functionality is only available to those users who accepted it as a beta testing. I have it but it is not great. I recorded MOTD several times over the Christmas but I could never watch them as the picture kept glitching so this obviously needs some work).

    Apart from all that, the box is fine. Lol!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I stand corrected as I seem to have misread your meaning

    I did not think I did when I posted ....


    .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tony wrote: »
    I stand corrected as I seem to have misread your meaning

    Indeed I did seem, in a previous post, to understand you meant substantial costs.
    I have no idea from where you thing the huge cost would come or the difficulty either, TBH.

    Apologies for that, but my understanding was unless the costs were substantial they would not prevent implementation of the auto update feature.

    It does appear from later posts that it does auto update?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    That's not my understanding as the box is at present. The previously mentioned firmware update is a possibility though as the box could be instructed to auto scan if that was available in the code. There were OTA updates in the past but I'm not certain whether this is done OTA or via internet on the connect box. No saorview transponder change has taken place so far to my knowledge since the connect box became available but I'm open to correction on that point.
    It does appear from later posts that it does auto update?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    The connect box has options to update software over the internet, over the air or through the usb. At least those options are present. All software updates so far have come over the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    If only 600 of these boxes have been sold then this must be at a significant loss. I doubt this money would pay for a programmer's salary to work on the software needed for it to function. Thanks God RTÃ႒‰ are supporting the project otherwise this would be dead already. Maybe we will see it on Dragon's Den this year looking for investors!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    A little bit of help here asked for. Was planning to get a saorview connect box for my Dad. He is 85 and his current saorview enabled TV needs constant retuning. It's 5 years old. I can set it up for him but will it need constant retuning? He has reasonable broadband 13mb. Will this be sufficient? Thanks in advance.



    This box in Power city https://powercity.ie/product/WPS818C will give you saorview and UK channels. It is easy to set up and easy to use. There is a thread on it here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057898524


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 thatwilldopig


    Has anyone a iota of when this box will get the recording feature. What exactly is the major issue, they trying to implement the new RTE player while they are it.?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Has anyone a iota of when this box will get the recording feature. What exactly is the major issue, they trying to implement the new RTE player while they are it.?
    Oh no doubt it's highly technical.


    Ye olde Foxsat Hdr only got dual series-link HD recording while watching a a previous recording or third HD channel on one of the two active transponders back in 2008.

    And the same people have rolled out Tivù on demand / Tivùsat ( which uses the added complication of a decoder card ) in the meantime.


    Don't get me started about TG4 in SD while RAI are transmitting in 4K :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    The connect box has options to update software over the internet, over the air or through the usb. At least those options are present. All software updates so far have come over the internet.

    The problems I have read on this thread is not the delivery methods, its the ability to release software in the first instance.

    How long is this product on the market and yet recording is not right ?

    This product should have been recalled a long time ago.


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