Kia Niro EV

Silent Running · 01-04-2020 12:25pm

championc wrote: »

Basically

10.25" screen
11kw charger
Front Parking Distance warning
Rear LED light cluster
Rear Heated Seats

On the rear light cluster.. My FE rear clusters are LED. I know the new ones are different somehow. Is it just a different design?

graememk · 01-04-2020 1:55pm

Silent Running wrote: »

On the rear light cluster.. My FE rear clusters are LED. I know the new ones are different somehow. Is it just a different design?

Is yours like this?

Also the March Bev registrations are out, 22 e niros

Silent Running · 01-04-2020 2:04pm

graememk wrote: »

Is yours like this?

Also the March Bev registrations are out, 22 e niros

No, like this...

https://www.engadget.com/2018-10-02-kias-e-niro-crossover-long-range-ev.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKsjxKDv4pAwRh4JSQdquNJckjxMxEcG1-jmULh8Xt5NqF89zO-9DbgBFJN6rKEHUDZyqDP-El6gtrzweKZbVhkVoeT5aubCx91JivbIfhQAmWxcT-uyPiN2V-iBYCg7EKzwiQgBjAPV10Oj1p2XgQ-ZXqch8uwCn8Z5z_dIi8Ye

Looks like just a design change then.

championc · 01-04-2020 3:15pm

graememk wrote: »

the March Bev registrations are out, 22 e niros

Maybe our thoughts of high demand has simply been fueled by the situation in the UK. It's very likely that there will be feck all others out there now prepared to fork out €40k for an EV. And however likely that possibility might have been a few weeks ago, I think you can now absolutely forget it. In fact, I think it's very likely that some dealers have been left with e-Niro's after people cancelled the orders, through financial uncertainty.

Some would even say that you'd be mad to hand any dealer a deposit right now, not knowing if they will even be in business this time next month. I'm glad that I got my car out of the dealership before they closed (for now).

Green&Red · 02-04-2020 8:02am

I said something similar a couple of weeks ago, I was planning on giving my deposit about three weeks back, I'm holding off until the car is in the forecourt now. I don't think there will be any issue getting one when the dealerships open again

xboxdad · 02-04-2020 10:14am

Green&Red wrote: »

I don't think there will be any issue getting one when the dealerships open again

Because they'll be stuck with cars delivered to them after orders cancelled late in the process?
...or because there's an incoming shipment of e-Niros into Ireland pretty soon regardless of the virus stituation & UK waiting lists?
...or both?

tk123 · 02-04-2020 10:19am

I just renewed my tax for 6 months instead of a year in case they're spare eNiros lol

Green&Red · 02-04-2020 10:35am

xboxdad wrote: »

Because they'll be stuck with cars delivered to them after orders cancelled late in the process?
...or because there's an incoming shipment of e-Niros into Ireland pretty soon regardless of the virus stituation & UK waiting lists?
...or both?

Cause I think people could cancel their orders, lots of people could lose their job, or at the very least get a pay cut

darrenheaphy · 02-04-2020 11:33am

Green&Red wrote: »

Cause I think people could cancel their orders, lots of people could lose their job, or at the very least get a pay cut

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how the economic uncertainty impacts on this on other industries. And to what degree the economic bounces back - will there be an outpouring of economic growth initially ... and stuff.

Green&Red · 02-04-2020 12:09pm

Any chance the price will drop?

Miscreant · 02-04-2020 1:11pm

Green&Red wrote: »

Any chance the price will drop?

Highly doubtful. They put it up by 2k recently between FE and SE so I doubt they will drop it. Kia know the units will sell, even with all that is going on now I would imagine they will prefer to hold on to the stock and sell at full price than discount it.

KCross · 02-04-2020 1:33pm

Miscreant wrote: »

Highly doubtful. They put it up by 2k recently between FE and SE so I doubt they will drop it. Kia know the units will sell, even with all that is going on now I would imagine they will prefer to hold on to the stock and sell at full price than discount it.

And its not like they have thousands of them to shift. The price will more than likely hold as a result.

xboxdad · 02-04-2020 6:28pm

JBL speakers here finally? I didn't spot it before (see the screenshot attached):

tomister · 02-04-2020 8:49pm

xboxdad wrote: »

JBL speakers here finally? I didn't spot it before (see the screenshot attached):

Its really hard to know with the Kia website. There's a 10.25" screen on one page and then back to 7" on the other.
Hopefully someone who has picked up a SE can confirm

championc · 02-04-2020 9:02pm

tomister wrote: »

Its really hard to know with the Kia website. There's a 10.25" screen on one page and then back to 7" on the other.
Hopefully someone who has picked up a SE can confirm

Does the 7" not refer to the instrument cluster ???

Krusty_Clown · 02-04-2020 9:58pm

Green&Red wrote: »

I said something similar a couple of weeks ago, I was planning on giving my deposit about three weeks back, I'm holding off until the car is in the forecourt now. I don't think there will be any issue getting one when the dealerships open again

Do you really think so? They sold 22 in March, not because of Covid 19 (which only hampered sales in the final days of March), but because there was no supply. That situation is very likely to dis-improve over the coming months, as manufacturing of batteries and vehicles and goods transportation has been hampered by the pandemic.

Has there ever been any profiling/surveys done of who buys EVs? I'd imagine many buyers fit a certain profile - work in IT, often have disposable income, regard for the environment, geeks. Less likely to be impacted severely by a down-turn in the economy. Sure isn't there about 5 people posting in this thread over the last week or so (myself included) who would by one next week if they could?

Green&Red · 02-04-2020 10:11pm

Ya I don't think they're going to be immune to this recession

In my immediate family one has had their bonus for the year cancelled, one has been given a 20% pay-cut, the second is FC for a tech company, they had been talking about EVs as company cars at the start of the year, thats out the window.

Like I say, plenty of companies will go to the wall as the global economy contracts, that forces wages down even in a bullet-proof company, availability.

Obviously its a great time if you can hang onto your job and your salary

JohnC. · 04-04-2020 5:49am

Great bargain on the Kia site right now. It's listed as "From €0". Shame the dealers are closed.

JohnC. · 04-04-2020 7:31am

Looks like the €0 price is a result of them adding the 39kWh version, but without a price yet.

xboxdad · 04-04-2020 8:44am

Can someone please tell me what do they check when you apply for PCP? What documentation they require? It seems to be different with each manufacturer and I didn't find anything related to KIA.

graememk · 04-04-2020 10:13am

xboxdad wrote: »

Can someone please tell me what do they check when you apply for PCP? What documentation they require? It seems to be different with each manufacturer and I didn't find anything related to KIA.

I didn't get PCP, just hp,

They needed proof of id, proof of address and proof of pps number (not the card) and average yearly income.

HP I think was done through BOI.

social butterfly 2020 · 04-04-2020 2:01pm

graememk wrote: »

I didn't get PCP, just hp,

They needed proof of id, proof of address and proof of pps number (not the card) and average yearly income.

HP I think was done through BOI.

Is that all they required for HP?

icom · 04-04-2020 2:27pm

xboxdad wrote: »

Can someone please tell me what do they check when you apply for PCP? What documentation they require? It seems to be different with each manufacturer and I didn't find anything related to KIA.

Avoid all that hassle and just pay cash

Krusty_Clown · 09-04-2020 10:57am

So, championc and graememk, now that you have a few weeks under the belt (though probably not as much chance to drive as you'd like), any impressions? Frustrations? Regrets? New discoveries?

graememk · 09-04-2020 11:14am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

So, championc and graememk, now that you have a few weeks under the belt (though probably not as much chance to drive as you'd like), any impressions? Frustrations? Regrets? New discoveries?

I've driven it 2-3 times... It's a lovely car to drive, lots of power, and very easy to go above 100km/h

Ride is better than the 2016 Sportage that we had

Other half has driven it a lot (key worker) - her response is "it's a car" , previous car was an automatic too though.

Car is averaging 17.9kwh/100km (on 40km journey and a 130km journey). Edit: one way, no possible at work charging
I've seen the morning journey at 20kwh/100km and the return at 14

Uvo app can notify when charge is completed or if you forget to close the boot properly..(or forget to lock the car) to name a few.

Can have multiple people authorised on the uvo app too.

Haven't been near a public charge point yet either.

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 1:42pm

Can UVO preheat the car??.

graememk wrote: »

I've driven it 2-3 times... It's a lovely car to drive, lots of power, and very easy to go above 100km/h

Ride is better than the 2016 Sportage that we had

Other half has driven it a lot (key worker) - her response is "it's a car" , previous car was an automatic too though.

Car is averaging 17.9kwh/100km (on 40km journey and a 130km journey). Edit: one way, no possible at work charging
I've seen the morning journey at 20kwh/100km and the return at 14

Uvo app can notify when charge is completed or if you forget to close the boot properly..(or forget to lock the car) to name a few.

Can have multiple people authorised on the uvo app too.

Haven't been near a public charge point yet either.

graememk · 09-04-2020 2:14pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Can UVO preheat the car??.

Yes and you can change the scheduled settings too, is the timed preheat schedule and charge limit

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 2:17pm

graememk wrote: »

Yes and you can change the scheduled settings too, is the timed preheat schedule and charge limit

Will/can it switch seat heating on as well?

graememk · 09-04-2020 2:24pm

xboxdad wrote: »

Will/can it switch seat heating on as well?

*When I say preheat, I mean run the climate control.

Hmm I'll have a look, I don't think the timed one preheats the seats, but I think you can do it manually.

Looks like maybe just the steering wheel? I'll have to test later

championc · 09-04-2020 2:36pm

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

So, championc and graememk, now that you have a few weeks under the belt (though probably not as much chance to drive as you'd like), any impressions? Frustrations? Regrets? New discoveries?

Only about 400km done. Not a single cent paid on charging. Can't stop smiling ever time I drive it up the road. Love the Adaptive Cruise Control. It's fantastic.

Would love to be able to set Auto Hold ON by default

We're getting out of season now to be preheating seats etc. Mind you, since seats and the steering wheel heats so quickly, I really don't see the need to faf about with the app

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 3:09pm

Thanks

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 3:56pm

Is there a USB charging port in the back of the SE e-niro

graememk · 09-04-2020 4:12pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Is there a USB charging port in the back of the SE e-niro

No but there is one in the arm rest

icom · 09-04-2020 4:58pm

championc wrote: »

Only about 400km done. Not a single cent paid on charging. Can't stop smiling ever time I drive it up the road. Love the Adaptive Cruise Control. It's fantastic.

Would love to be able to set Auto Hold ON by default

We're getting out of season now to be preheating seats etc. Mind you, since seats and the steering wheel heats so quickly, I really don't see the need to faf about with the app

Have the FE since January. On frosty/snowy mornings I would pop outside, start the car, hit the heated seat button and literally 2 minutes later, the car would be completely defrosted and ready to drive. So nice jumping in and have the seat pre heated as well

Still would be nice to have the UVO app, but can live without it for now.

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 5:08pm

icom wrote: »

Have the FE since January. On frosty/snowy mornings I would pop outside, start the car, hit the heated seat button and literally 2 minutes later, the car would be completely defrosted and ready to drive. So nice jumping in and have the seat pre heated as well
Still would be nice to have the UVO app, but can live without it for now.

Can you lock the car afterwards and leave the seat heating on still?

JPA · 09-04-2020 5:10pm

icom wrote: »

Have the FE since January. On frosty/snowy mornings I would pop outside, start the car, hit the heated seat button and literally 2 minutes later, the car would be completely defrosted and ready to drive. So nice jumping in and have the seat pre heated as well
Still would be nice to have the UVO app, but can live without it for now.

Can it not be set in car to preheat for a set time?

icom · 09-04-2020 6:05pm

xboxdad wrote: »

Can you lock the car afterwards and leave the seat heating on still?

No, it won't lock when started from outside.

But I live out in the sticks, so safe enough. Fingers crossed !

icom · 09-04-2020 6:06pm

JPA wrote: »

Can it not be set in car to preheat for a set time?

Yeah, I don't bother with that as the car needs to be plugged into the charger.

I have free charging at work, and have only used the home charger when on holiday.

JPA · 09-04-2020 6:07pm

icom wrote: »

Yeah, I don't bother with that as the car needs to be plugged into the charger.

I have free charging at work, and have only used the home charger when on holiday.

But you can have it plugged in and not charging. Save you going out.

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 6:09pm

icom wrote: »

No, it won't lock when started from outside.

But I live out in the sticks, so safe enough. Fingers crossed !

Yeah, I need to keep watching our car on cold mornings while heating up the leather seats / defrosting the windows for my wife. It sounds it's going to be the same with the e-Niro. Unless heating up the cabin to say 25'C makes the leather quite warm anyways.

icom · 09-04-2020 6:18pm

xboxdad wrote: »

Yeah, I need to keep watching our car on cold mornings while heating up the leather seats / defrosting the windows for my wife. It sounds it's going to be the same with the e-Niro. Unless heating up the cabin to say 25'C makes the leather quite warm anyways.

If you get a SE with the app, you can do remote heating using the app and the car will still be locked.

Same with the Nissan Leaf 40.

icom · 09-04-2020 6:19pm

JPA wrote: »

But you can have it plugged in and not charging. Save you going out.

Helps wake me up on a winters morning

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 6:47pm

icom wrote: »

If you get a SE with the app, you can do remote heating using the app and the car will still be locked.

Same with the Nissan Leaf 40.

Yes I understand that.
What I'm not sure about is if heating the cabin to say 25'C will also result in 25'C warm seats. I've doubts about that.

championc · 09-04-2020 7:29pm

UVO is a real gimmick, but I think it's more possibly for Kia's R&D Dept. I've no doubt that they are hoovering up all of our GPS data, our charging data, and copious amounts of diagnostic data

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 7:45pm

championc wrote: »

UVO is a real gimmick, but I think it's more possibly for Kia's R&D Dept. I've no doubt that they are hoovering up all of our GPS data, our charging data, and copious amounts of diagnostic data

Hey if it means a warm car on a winter's morning then I'm all for it.

Waiting for my grant to be approved. Should hopefully pick up my niro in the next week or 2.

There was no movement on price, regardless of the current trading environment. Still large waiting lists.

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 8:29pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Should hopefully pick up my niro in the next week or 2

When did you order it, may I ask?

championc · 09-04-2020 8:39pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Still large waiting lists.

What makes you say that ? Only 22 registered in March. I honestly think that it is now too expensive in Ireland and I think that you're basing your statement more on UK orders.

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 8:42pm

Was a cancellation. Walked into the garage and took it literally 3 weeks ago.

xboxdad wrote: »

When did you order it, may I ask?

social butterfly 2020 · 09-04-2020 8:42pm

Only 22 registered because there was none in the country to register in the first place.

championc wrote: »

What makes you say that ? Only 22 registered in March. I honestly think that it is now too expensive in Ireland and I think that you're basing your statement more on UK orders.

xboxdad · 09-04-2020 8:43pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Was a cancellation. Walked into the garage and took it literally 3 weeks ago.

Wow, how lucky!

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