Boy (8) dies after dog attack

This is it · 23-03-2020 6:55pm #1

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/boy-8-dies-after-being-attacked-by-dogs-in-dublin-39067536.html

Very little information on what exactly happened. Two Rottweilers apparently. Poor little fella, not much older than my own. RIP.

An eight year old boy has tragically died after being attacked by two dogs in Dublin.

The child died this morning at Crumlin Children's Hospital.

At around 4pm yesterday, the child was seriously injured following a reported attack by a number of dogs at a house in the Tallaght area.

The child was taken to Tallaght Hospital with serious injuries before being moved to Crumlin yesterday.

The dog warden has been notified and the dogs have been confiscated.

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-03-2020 7:04pm

Horrible way to go

The parents will never forgive themselves

Zebra3 · 23-03-2020 7:25pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Horrible way to go

The parents will never forgive themselves

Who said the parents of the child were to blame in any way?

endacl · 23-03-2020 7:28pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Who said the parents of the child were to blame in any way?

And daft comment of the day award goes to...

ThewhiteJesus · 23-03-2020 7:28pm

Awful story the poor child,why do people want to own these dogs it amazes me. RIP

v638sg7k1a92bx · 23-03-2020 7:29pm

Do we know what breed of dog?

Mantis Toboggan · 23-03-2020 7:29pm

These dogs can be vicious. Tough lesson for the parents.

This is it · 23-03-2020 7:29pm

Amani Agreeable Aftershave wrote: »

Do we know what breed of dog?

Reported as Rottweilers on RTE news

deathbomber · 23-03-2020 7:29pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Awful story the poor child,why do people want to own these dogs it amazes me. RIP

Guard dogs, yard attached to family home/storage business. RIP

tuxy · 23-03-2020 7:31pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

These dogs can be vicious. Tough lesson for the parents.

The owners know this, that's why they chose that breed.
They figured owning this breed would make their home more secure from intruders.

sligeach · 23-03-2020 7:32pm

Not in direct relation to this tragic incident(which is a bit different, 2 rottweiler guard dogs in a business yard attached to the home), but I don't get why some people want dangerous breeds of dogs. I see these people out all the time with no muzzles on the dog, some let them off the lead, and others who can barely control the dog. Do they think they're hard ********? That it's some sort of status symbol? I think the majority of these people are idiots.

average_runner · 23-03-2020 7:36pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

These dogs can be vicious. Tough lesson for the parents.

All dogs are vicious if brought up that way

yerwanthere123 · 23-03-2020 7:46pm

average_runner wrote: »

All dogs are vicious if brought up that way

I never hear of children being killed by jack russels or golden retrievers though?

EriT · 23-03-2020 7:50pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I never hear of children being killed by jack russels or golden retrievers though?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/09/baby-died-bitten-jack-russell

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

It's how they are raised , not the breed

AlphabetCards · 23-03-2020 7:50pm

tuxy wrote: »

The owners know this, that's why they chose that breed.
They figured owning this breed would make their home more secure from intruders.

Gotta get a dangerous breed of dog, wait make that two dogs, to keep my family safe....

Wtf

dhaughton99 · 23-03-2020 7:54pm

Cutting the tail off a dog when they are pups for fashion and wonder why they are vicious.

yerwanthere123 · 23-03-2020 7:54pm

EriT wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/09/baby-died-bitten-jack-russell

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

It's how they are raised , not the breed

Shock horror, you used google and managed to find a couple of obscure cases. Would you agree or not that fatal dog attacks happen almost entirely among rottweilers/pit bull terriers etc?

Lyan · 23-03-2020 7:55pm

EriT wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/09/baby-died-bitten-jack-russell

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

It's how they are raised , not the breed

Dog personality traits are bred selectively. Training only does so much.

Guy:Incognito · 23-03-2020 7:56pm

sligeach wrote: »

Not in direct relation to this tragic incident(which is a bit different, 2 rottweiler guard dogs in a business yard attached to the home), but I don't get why some people want dangerous breeds of dogs. I see these people out all the time with no muzzles on the dog, some let them off the lead, and others who can barely control the dog. Do they think they're hard ********? That it's some sort of status symbol? I think the majority of these people are idiots.

Their one isnt vicious and wouldn't bite anyone.

Foweva Awone · 23-03-2020 7:58pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Who said the parents of the child were to blame in any way?

Well, seeing as the parents were (supposed to be) responsible for (a) the child, and (b) the animals ... I can't see how they weren't to blame.

Poor child. RIP.

EriT · 23-03-2020 7:59pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Shock horror, you used google and managed to find a couple of obscure cases. Would you agree or not that fatal dog attacks happen almost entirely among rottweilers/pit bull terriers etc?

I would have thought that would be Labradors due to their size and how popular they are.

Unfortunately both a Rottweiler and a pit pull terrier are very attractive to the wrong type of person . The kind of people that shouldn't own any type of dog.

Both when brought up corectly can be fantastic family dogs.

I don't own either .

Ms2011 · 23-03-2020 7:59pm

No such thing as a dangerous breed, we have restricted breeds in Ireland alright.
Our 10 year old Rottweiler died last year and she was the perfect family pet, not guard dog, family pet. She lived alongside my 7 and 4 year old children, cat and other dog ( a Chihuahua) and never once did she ever give me any reason to question her temperament. We miss her dearly and I will definitely have another one one day.

Markcheese · 23-03-2020 8:04pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I never hear of children being killed by jack russels or golden retrievers though?

Size counts , I've seen plenty cranky jack Russel's , difference between a little dog that'd take a chunk out of your leg , and huge Rottweiler that'd knock you on your back and then take a chunk ..
A well trained ,well socialized rottweiler can be a great pet ...(still would leave kids unattended with one ),

TheValeyard · 23-03-2020 8:06pm

Christ that poor child. The pain and horror he went through must have been absolutely shocking. His final moments were just barbaric.

RIP

BurnUp78 · 23-03-2020 8:09pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Shock horror, you used google and managed to find a couple of obscure cases. Would you agree or not that fatal dog attacks happen almost entirely among rottweilers/pit bull terriers etc?

If a jack Russel bites someone it's not going to make the news. My neighbour has a papillon and she's a little **** that's extremely aggressive but because it's the size of a rat it can't really do any damage and the owner has no desire to discipline/train it.

When a rottweiler is aggressive and attacks a human/other dog its a different story because they are so large and powerful and the only people who should own these dogs should be experienced at handling large breeds and same goes for German shepherds, Akitas, Mastiffs etc and these dogs should never be allowed to be unleashed in parks.

Still waters · 23-03-2020 8:09pm

There was never a bad dog born, rip to the poor child

tuxy · 23-03-2020 8:10pm

BurnUp78 wrote: »

If a jack Russel bites someone it's not going to make the news. My neighbour has a papillon and she's a little **** that's extremely aggressive but because it's the size of a rat it can't really do any damage and the owner has no desire to discipline/train it.

When a rottweiler is aggressive and attacks a human/other dog its a different story because they are so large and powerful and the only people who should own these dogs should be experienced at handling large breeds and same goes for German shepherds, Akitas, Mastiffs etc and these dogs should never be allowed to be unleashed in parks.

But everyone who owns those breads would consider themselves experienced enough.

AlphabetCards · 23-03-2020 8:11pm

Still waters wrote: »

There was never a bad dog born, rip to the poor cratur

Out of interest, where so you reckon your IQ lies in the grand scheme of things? Top third? Top tenth?

eviltwin · 23-03-2020 8:11pm

Still waters wrote: »

There was never a bad dog born, rip to the poor cratur

A rest in peace to the poor child who died a horrific death would be more appropriate

tuxy · 23-03-2020 8:11pm

Ms2011 wrote: »

No such thing as a dangerous breed, we have restricted breeds in Ireland alright.

Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

Snails pace · 23-03-2020 8:12pm

I've a rottweiler dog, his there for the look and does a good job. His quiet and friendly but i still wouldn't take the chance of leaving him around children. Rottweilers are a very jealous breed and having two of them isn't a great idea. It's mainly bad owners more so than bad dogs.

Every dog can be vicious. Labradors and terriers can be viscous around stock I and often had issues with them.

FixitFelix · 23-03-2020 8:18pm

tuxy wrote: »

Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

Obviously just like some people can be more dangerous, the problem is people who trust their dogs around kids without supervision

BurnUp78 · 23-03-2020 8:19pm

tuxy wrote: »

Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

Well just look at the fatal dog attacks in the US and the vast majority are pitbulls, like 70% I'd say.

BurnUp78 · 23-03-2020 8:26pm

tuxy wrote: »

But everyone who owns those breads would consider themselves experienced enough.

Maybe a special license should be needed in order to own these specific breeds and the way you obtain the license is to undergo a dog training class where you demonstrate the knowledge and ability in how to handle them?

Still waters · 23-03-2020 8:27pm

eviltwin wrote: »

A rest in peace to the poor child who died a horrific death would be more appropriate

Thats what i meant, did you pick up something else from what i wrote

Still waters · 23-03-2020 8:28pm

AlphabetCards wrote: »

Out of interest, where so you reckon your IQ lies in the grand scheme of things? Top third? Top tenth?

Higher than yours I'd wager, although that wouldn't make me a genius by any means

Abba987 · 23-03-2020 8:35pm

Every dog has the potential to attack. We had an old lady years ago who never hurt a fly but snapped when she got sick

However not all dogs have the strength to overpower and kill.

Xertz · 23-03-2020 8:41pm

I don't quite understand why, even in security, you would need such a dog. Mostly a dog acts as a deterrent by being a big loud, bouncy thing that might make a huge fuss and raise the alarm. Some of these breeds are are basically bread to be potentially deadly weapons.

RIP. It's unthinkable and a senseless tragedy.

jaxxx · 23-03-2020 8:41pm

eviltwin wrote: »

A rest in peace to the poor child who died a horrific death would be more appropriate

Cratur meaning CRATER (mispelled OBVIOUSLY).

Jesus...

Ms2011 · 23-03-2020 8:47pm

tuxy wrote: »

Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

No, no breed is any more dangerous than the next. Restricted Breed Legislation has been proven to be ineffective. A dog is a dog first and breed second.

castletownman · 23-03-2020 8:48pm

I wonder was the "container storage" business a front for something else? Like a bit of of a side project that would require guard dogs minding the premises.

Not stereotyping by the location and breed of dog involved of course.

Someone did mention earlier about those sort of dogs being a status symbol. Well, I haven't seen any wannabe criminals walking around with shih tzus, malteses or springer spaniels anyway.

kildare lad · 23-03-2020 9:01pm

A friend of mine had a Rottweiler, when his missus had a child the dog started to get jealous and his hairs would start stand up on it's back . He got rid of it after that.

Bobblehats · 23-03-2020 9:01pm

Xertz wrote: »

I don't quite understand why, even in security, you would need such a dog. Mostly a dog acts as a deterrent by being a big loud, bouncy thing that might make a huge fuss and raise the alarm. Some of these breeds are are basically bread to be potentially deadly weapons

RIP. It's unthinkable and a senseless tragedy.

They’re potentially deadly anyway there lies the reason if looks could kill

Disgusted another child passed opposite under such savage circumstances spare a thought for the surgeons too who were presented with and had to try and rescue that situation. I wish we wouldn’t act like such ******* in this country it will become of us, always the kids that pay

Ms2011 · 23-03-2020 9:03pm

BurnUp78 wrote: »

Well just look at the fatal dog attacks in the US and the vast majority are pitbulls, like 70% I'd say.

People, even those in authority are notorious ill informed about dogs. Any dog with a blocky head is labelled a Pitbull type, this does not mean they are actually Pit Bulls. Labs have blocky heads as do some Pointers and their crosses, but if they bite some one its automatically recorded as a Pit Bull or Pit Bull type.

holyhead · 23-03-2020 9:04pm

R.I.P. young man

Ginger83 · 23-03-2020 9:22pm

RIP poor guy

P2C · 23-03-2020 9:30pm

As a owner of a Shepard (11) and a jack (13) with 3 kids age 0,5 & 7 I would be far more comfortable leaving the Shepard with the kids than the jack Russel. Agree with you in public I would always lead/ mussel the Shepard. Sounds like theses dogs were trained to be guard dogs. My Shepard was trained and socialised to be a family pet by a responsible owner. I would not go into a yard with 2 German Shepard’s guard dogs with out their master for all the money in the world and I have had them in my family for over 30 years. Tragic circumstances. RIP young man

BurnUp78 wrote: »

If a jack Russel bites someone it's not going to make the news. My neighbour has a papillon and she's a little **** that's extremely aggressive but because it's the size of a rat it can't really do any damage and the owner has no desire to discipline/train it.

When a rottweiler is aggressive and attacks a human/other dog its a different story because they are so large and powerful and the only people who should own these dogs should be experienced at handling large breeds and same goes for German shepherds, Akitas, Mastiffs etc and these dogs should never be allowed to be unleashed in parks.

mariaalice · 23-03-2020 9:34pm

Snails pace wrote: »

I've a rottweiler dog, his there for the look and does a good job. His quiet and friendly but i still wouldn't take the chance of leaving him around children. Rottweilers are a very jealous breed and having two of them isn't a great idea. It's mainly bad owners more so than bad dogs.

Every dog can be vicious. Labradors and terriers can be viscous around stock I and often had issues with them.

Why do you need the look though? is it some ridiculous macho thing

In a very rural area of Wicklow recently I came across some young lads with two dogs not on leads they were pit bulls ,at first I thought they were staffies but looked it up when I got home and they were pit bulls. They came up to me and were lovely very friendly but why do people want dogs like that dose it big them up? and why is obeying the rules so hard for some?

branie2 · 23-03-2020 9:55pm

May the little man rest in peace

Bobblehats · 23-03-2020 10:20pm

mariaalice wrote: »

Why do you need the look though? is it some ridiculous macho thing

In a very rural area of Wicklow recently I came across some young lads with two dogs not on leads they were pit bulls ,at first I thought they were staffies but looked it up when I got home and they were pit bulls. They came up to me and were lovely very friendly but why do people want dogs like that dose it big them up? and why is obeying the rules so hard for some?

Most animals will approach for a sniff of a hand. What may be in it, or simply just it problem is they’ll have that same blank stare when they settle for it and are chewing it off you. That’s why I only need look at the animal, to to judge the potential of it after all that’s what’s really at play here.

mariaalice · 23-03-2020 10:29pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Most animals will approach for a sniff of a hand. What may be in it, or simply just it problem is they’ll have that same blank stare when they settle for it and are chewing it off you. That’s why I only need look at the animal, to to judge the potential of it after all that’s what’s really at play here.

I can't say for certain but I would say the two pit bulls I met were not dangerous and were very friendly, that could have been because despite not having a lead or muzzle on them they looked like they were very well cared for.

Boy (8) dies after dog attack

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