Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

PressRun · 19-03-2019 6:00pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Pity she finished the way she finished.
No one's fault but her own.

Pity it ended the way it did, but she was a phenomenal talent. I think it's doubtful that the Mayo ladies scene will ever produce such a player again. One of the greatest women to ever play the game, and one the greatest players to come out of Mayo, surely.

seligehgit · 19-03-2019 6:57pm

PressRun wrote: »

Pity it ended the way it did, but she was a phenomenal talent. I think it's doubtful that the Mayo ladies scene will ever produce such a player again. One of the greatest women to ever play the game, and one the greatest players to come out of Mayo, surely.

I do not believe in years to come it'll come to the tarnish her legacy.

She was a truly phenomenal player.

crusier · 19-03-2019 11:04pm

seligehgit wrote:

She was a truly phenomenal player.

seligehgit wrote:

I do not believe in years to come it'll come to the tarnish her legacy.

I still think Horan should have played her!

Fr Tod Umptious · 19-03-2019 11:42pm

crusier wrote: »

I still think Horan should have played her!

Crusier, you're on a lot of people's ignore list for good reason.

km79 · 20-03-2019 12:07am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Crusier, you're on a lot of people's ignore list for good reason.

So stop quoting him please !

Bunny Colvin · 20-03-2019 12:24am

That was a great win for us on Saturday. It was a decent contest but the better team on the night won, we looked more battle hardened and up for it. I felt Horan could have made some subs earlier with Keegan and Boyler coming in sooner. Ruane's goal was very well taken and came at the right time. Thankfully we held on despite some pressure at the end. What's the thoughts on the blue jersey? I said it reminded me of Dublin and Rangers too much but was a fan of it by full-time!

Looking at next week, Monaghan won't be an easy game but it could be worse. It's out of our hands regarding what Galway and Kerry do but at least Roscommon and Tyrone both have their games at home, with something to play for. Things have a habit of working out well for us during the last round of the league, hopefully that's the case on Sunday. It would be great to be back in a league final.

Hammer Archer · 20-03-2019 8:48am

crusier wrote: »

I still think Horan should have played her!

Mod: crusier, do not post in this thread again.

padd b1975 · 20-03-2019 12:59pm

PressRun wrote: »

Pity it ended the way it did, but she was a phenomenal talent. I think it's doubtful that the Mayo ladies scene will ever produce such a player again. One of the greatest women to ever play the game, and one the greatest players to come out of Mayo, surely.

It's a shame that her last contribution to Mayo Ladies football was to roar at her Carnacon team mates "Are yee fooking coming or not!!??".

Call me Al · 20-03-2019 1:11pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

It's a shame that her last contribution to Mayo Ladies football was to roar at her Carnacon team mates "Are yee fooking coming or not!!??".

I wonder what those Carnacon teammates are thinking now. The brinkmanship blew up in their collective face. The one who was pulling them with her has retired after having a full GAA career. Can they say that they've equally achieved their potential?

tml73 · 20-03-2019 3:36pm

Has anyone had their season ticket attendance updated from Tralee yet?

Carol25 · 20-03-2019 6:01pm

Delighted to see the Mayo GAA post on Facebook re giving time to thank the fans. The supporters give up so much of their time, energy and finances to follow the team. Nice to see it’s appreciated. Very good performance overall in Kerry, think Aidan O’Shea and Ruane could be the way to go with Midfield. The forwards are still a concern for me though in a tight match come championship or against a blanket defence.

Audioslaven · 20-03-2019 6:33pm

Call me Al wrote: »

I wonder what those Carnacon teammates are thinking now. The brinkmanship blew up in their collective face. The one who was pulling them with her has retired after having a full GAA career. Can they say that they've equally achieved their potential?

Yes they made fools of themselves and brought a real divide to the team with accusations that could be interpreted in many forms.
They will understand the meaning of "thinking for oneself". It's not the end for some once a new manager comes in but they will have to wait. It's a harsh lesson for them but I don't have any sympathy for them.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 20-03-2019 7:19pm

Carol25 wrote: »

Delighted to see the Mayo GAA post on Facebook re giving time to thank the fans. The supporters give up so much of their time, energy and finances to follow the team. Nice to see it’s appreciated. Very good performance overall in Kerry, think Aidan O’Shea and Ruane could be the way to go with Midfield. The forwards are still a concern for me though in a tight match come championship or against a blanket defence.

O'Shea played some of his best football in midfield under Horan, but prior to Saturday Id have doubted he can still do a job there. Time will tell... at least they dont have to worry about replacing his scoring threat.

Id much rather see DOC there, but he seems to have been moved back into the forwards

seligehgit · 20-03-2019 9:23pm

Carol25 wrote: »

Delighted to see the Mayo GAA post on Facebook re giving time to thank the fans. The supporters give up so much of their time, energy and finances to follow the team. Nice to see it’s appreciated. Very good performance overall in Kerry, think Aidan O’Shea and Ruane could be the way to go with Midfield. The forwards are still a concern for me though in a tight match come championship or against a blanket defence.

Indeed I saw that last night.Really nice gesture.

Lots of young and not so young fans I'm sure will be anxious to press the flesh with their heroes.

Here's hoping we'll have clinched a league final place.

MayoAreMagic · 21-03-2019 12:24pm

Green&Red wrote: »

I’d expect Monaghan to beat us, they have something to play for where we have the chance to make the final, no matter how you try and get your head around it they have something tangible to play for and I think we’ll see that.

However, I’d be delighted if we did go to the final, a game in CP that’s not Dublin and a good chance at winning it, especially if it was Kerry in the final, beating them again would be a real boost for the summer, good to have them young lads used to seeing the green and red as a superior team

Agreed. That is generally how most league games go. The team that needs it generally get the win. We had won a few early on, then met dublin who were stuttering. They win well. Id say ditto for the galway game. We meet kerry and they are comfortable, we win it. Similarly we have survived several seasons in this manner. Monaghans need is greater, so unless they capitulate under the pressure, they probably win it.

The Kerry win has been overhyped, just like the losses were over-played. Over the course of 75 mins we go from being a team struggling and horan being questioned, to being real challengers and expected to contest semi finals and finals. The pundits are guilty of the same garbage also, which only underlines how little effort they actually put in. We'd be better served not reading so much into it, either way.

Loafing Oaf · 21-03-2019 1:16pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Agreed. That is generally how most league games go. The team that needs it generally get the win. We had won a few early on, then met dublin who were stuttering. They win well. Id say ditto for the galway game. We meet kerry and they are comfortable, we win it. Similarly we have survived several seasons in this manner. Monaghans need is greater, so unless they capitulate under the pressure, they probably win it.

but they won't 'need' to win it unless Roscommon beat Kerry. Of course they'll be telling themselves going into the game that anything's possible etc., but I don't think their play will have the real desperate edge of a true 'must win' game.

MayoAreMagic · 21-03-2019 1:19pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

but they won't 'need' to win it unless Roscommon beat Kerry. Of course they'll be telling themselves going into the game that anything's possible etc., but I don't think their play will have the real desperate edge of a true 'must win' game.

They win and they are not relegated. Stands to reason they will be up for the game more than most games so far this year. I dont think mayo are as concerned with reaching the league final as monaghan will be to stay in D1

seligehgit · 21-03-2019 10:04pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

They win and they are not relegated. Stands to reason they will be up for the game more than most games so far this year. I dont think mayo are as concerned with reaching the league final as monaghan will be to stay in D1

TBH I don't buy that.:)

I'd like to think they'd be going all out to win it.Mayo should have no lesser an incentive to reach a league final.

A winners mentality.

km79 · 21-03-2019 10:13pm

I've completely changed my mind
I hope we go all out to win it now
National title not to be sniffed at and would be a great introduction for the likes of Ruane plunkett and macdonagh

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-03-2019 10:42pm

km79 wrote: »

I've completely changed my mind
I hope we go all out to win it now
National title not to be sniffed at and would be a great introduction for the likes of Ruane plunkett and macdonagh

I'm exactly the same over the last few days.

I don't think I could sit around on Sunday afternoon and go "Meh" if they failed to finish the league on a high and failed to give themselves a chance to play a league final.

HBC08 · 21-03-2019 10:49pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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We have really struggled to beat Galway recently, especially with their defensive system.
So I'd not be too confident of winning.
Another game v them may help in trying to solve that.

I watched the match v Kerry back after being at it on Saturday.
Should have won by much more.
Wasted a lot of opportunities in the second half.
I'd say Mayo would have the beating of them again in a final.

Would be a different ball game playing Galway in croker as opposed to MacHale park or Salthill.Would love a shot at them in HQ

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-03-2019 11:17pm

HBC08 wrote: »

Would be a different ball game playing Galway in croker as opposed to MacHale park or Salthill.Would love a shot at them in HQ

I don't think so

Galway would setup defensively, Mayo would struggle to break them down, Galway would score a late goal on the break

Anyway a Galway v Mayo final is probably the least likely of all the weekend outcomes

Galway have an 12 gap to make up on Kerry, so they would have to beat Tyrone by lets say 5 (in Tyrone) and have Kerry lose by lets say 7 to Roscommon to get in.

PARlance · 22-03-2019 1:34am

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

They win and they are not relegated. Stands to reason they will be up for the game more than most games so far this year. I dont think mayo are as concerned with reaching the league final as monaghan will be to stay in D1

I can't see anything but us going flat out for a win. Horan has an opportunity to get an early feather in his (new) cap. Plenty of senior players have had little to show for all their efforts in recent years.

If you put yourself in the management team/players shoes, rather than a supporter, then it's easy to see that there'll be plenty of hunger for a chance of to play a final vs Kerry or Galway. A real opportunity, with Dublin out of the running, to get some success.

I expect as near a championship team as possible and that in itself will be interesting. Let's hope Tyrone will do us a favour. It would be some craic if we got in thanks to the Rossies...

PressRun · 22-03-2019 8:11am

It's certainly a great opportunity to win a national title, especially now that the Dubs won't be there. I really do hope they go for it. Would be nice to have a bit of croke park excitement so early in the year, especially after the last gasp efforts to even just stay in div 1 the last couple of years.

Saw that Cillian isn't expected back for the Monaghan match either. Is his recovery taking longer than was expected?

yop · 22-03-2019 12:35pm

Winning is a habit so we need to continue on and go and win the final. McHale park seems to haunt us and I'm happier playing away from home now at this stage.

Horan should be aiming to get us to the league final.

HBC08 · 22-03-2019 6:17pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I don't think so

Galway would setup defensively, Mayo would struggle to break them down, Galway would score a late goal on the break

Anyway a Galway v Mayo final is probably the least likely of all the weekend outcomes

Galway have an 12 gap to make up on Kerry, so they would have to beat Tyrone by lets say 5 (in Tyrone) and have Kerry lose by lets say 7 to Roscommon to get in.

I'd like to see Galway try to set up defensively against Mayo in the wide open expanses of Croke where we rarely lose and they rarely win! It's our preferred home pitch at this stage.

seligehgit · 22-03-2019 6:49pm

Ok all,a job opportunity that might tickle your fancy.

Undoubtedly for all you Mayo fanatics with a healthy interest/involvement in your local clubs with suitable accounting/administrative skillsets.

https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/administration/employment-opportunities

A very positive development either way.

I wonder if our Castlebar native Niall McGarry is making a financial contribution?

RedDevil55 · 22-03-2019 6:51pm

HBC08 wrote: »

I'd like to see Galway try to set up defensively against Mayo in the wide open expanses of Croke where we rarely lose and they rarely win! It's our preferred home pitch at this stage.

It didn't feel very homely when we were there a few weeks back...

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-03-2019 7:39pm

HBC08 wrote: »

I'd like to see Galway try to set up defensively against Mayo in the wide open expanses of Croke where we rarely lose and they rarely win! It's our preferred home pitch at this stage.

The wide open expanses of Croke are a myth

Pearse stadium is bigger, as the The Hyde

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/september-road-the-long-and-the-short-of-pitches-1.1844127

Regardless, only seven county grounds around the country then claim to utilise the maximum playing space of 13,050m²: Casement Park, Antrim; Cusack Park, Ennis; MacCumhail Park, Donegal, Pearse Stadium, Galway, O’Connor Park, Offaly, Semple Stadium, Tipperary and, you’ve guessed it, Dr Hyde Park, Roscommon.

Croke Park in contrast measures 144m x 86m.

Anyway as I said it would take a major Kerry and Tyrone collapse for a Galway v Mayo final to happen, unlikely

PARlance · 22-03-2019 7:47pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Ok all,a job opportunity that might tickle your fancy.

Undoubtedly for all you Mayo fanatics with a healthy interest/involvement in your local clubs with suitable accounting/administrative skillsets.

https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/administration/employment-opportunities

A very positive development either way.

I wonder if our Castlebar native Niall McGarry is making a financial contribution?

I believe he stated last year that the offer was still on the table.

Much more of a commerial/marketing/sponsorship role than accounting/administration.

seligehgit · 22-03-2019 7:57pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The wide open expanses of Croke are a myth

Pearse stadium is bigger, as the The Hyde

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/september-road-the-long-and-the-short-of-pitches-1.1844127

Anyway as I said it would take a major Kerry and Tyrone collapse for a Galway v Mayo final to happen, unlikely

But Father Tod we're in the league final if we come through on Sunday.

wirelessdude01 · 22-03-2019 8:14pm

seligehgit wrote:

I wonder if our Castlebar native Niall McGarry is making a financial contribution?

He offered previously didn't he?

Mayo County Board declined his offer.

This should have been done about 4/5 years ago. So so far behind the 8 ball on this.

MayoAreMagic · 22-03-2019 8:22pm

The wind and rain generally help galways defensive system in salthill, and mchale park for that matter. Mayo are generally playing them eariler in the year too which would be more prone to rain and wind, whereas the height of summer we are closer to CP. Now obviously we can and maybe should still be winning those games, but I believe those factors do have a sizeable effect on how a game plays out and are probably underestimated by fans/pundits. It could also explain why, despite having a strong side there now, galway are still waiting for their first win in a championship knockout game in croke park in almost two decades, which is in itself a staggering fact. But when you consider their gameplan, how they get wins and when/where they tend to be going well, it indicates that the wheels do seem to come off the better the pitches/weather gets, whereas mayo seems to be the inverse of that.

km79 · 22-03-2019 9:05pm

@MayoGAA: Here is the Mayo to face Monaghan on Sunday in @Elverys MacHale Park at 2pm. It shows 6 changes from last weekend's win https://bit.ly/2HAg7CI. #mayogaa #gaa https://twitter.com/MayoGAA/status/1109182306978332678/photo/1

wirelessdude01 · 22-03-2019 9:10pm

Still a pretty useful team.

HBC08 · 22-03-2019 9:10pm

RedDevil55 wrote: »

It didn't feel very homely when we were there a few weeks back...

We win there a lot more than we lose.Our record there is far superior to machale park the last few years.Galway have won once there in 18 years.Without oogling or thinking too hard about it weve probably won 30+ games in that time there.Id fancy Galway to beat us in machale park or salthill but Mayo to win in Croker.

HBC08 · 22-03-2019 9:16pm

Just saw the team there,Horan doing what hes done all season and making 5-6 changes every game.
I think Monaghan will want it a bit more on sun and that might shade it for them.
Great competition for places in the Mayo squad though and super to see it.

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-03-2019 9:31pm

Here it is by the way, no need for that Twitter yoke

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. James McCormack - Claremorris
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

wirelessdude01 · 22-03-2019 9:43pm

Horan must have decided that Diskin had spent enough time in purgatory for his indiscretion.

Martina1991 · 22-03-2019 10:49pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Horan must have decided that Diskin had spent enough time in purgatory for his indiscretion.

Indiscretion?

wirelessdude01 · 22-03-2019 11:00pm

Martina1991 wrote:

Indiscretion?

From what I heard he didn't follow rules and that is why we haven't seen him so far.

Bunny Colvin · 22-03-2019 11:10pm

km79 wrote: »

@MayoGAA: Here is the Mayo to face Monaghan on Sunday in @Elverys MacHale Park at 2pm. It shows 6 changes from last weekend's win https://bit.ly/2HAg7CI. #mayogaa #gaa https://twitter.com/MayoGAA/status/1109182306978332678/photo/1

That team is more than capable of getting the job done. Strong bench to use too.

Always_Running · 22-03-2019 11:15pm

Probably the weakest Mayo team that has started any league game this year. If this was a key championship game Barrett,Higgins,Boyle,Keegan,Moran,Reape would all be starting. Horan happy with his lot and not bothered if Mayo reach the final or not is the message sent out with that team.

HBC08 · 22-03-2019 11:18pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Probably the weakest Mayo team that has started any league game this year. If this was a key championship game Barrett,Higgins,Boyle,Keegan,Moran,Reape would all be starting. Horan happy with his lot and not bothered if Mayo reach the final or not is the message sent out with that team.

Horan is building a panel.Look at the subs to come in, there's a lot to be said for finishing with your strongest team these days.

Always_Running · 22-03-2019 11:36pm

HBC08 wrote: »

Horan is building a panel.Look at the subs to come in, there's a lot to be said for finishing with your strongest team these days.

He has used all of the league to build the panel. This was meant to be more important game with the opportunity to reach a final and win a national title. If Mayo lose on Sunday its because Horan chose not to start with a stronger team.

PARlance · 23-03-2019 12:16am

Well there goes my theory, wasn't expecting all the elder statesmen to start but I thought we would see Keegan, Higgins and Barrett start. I think Boyle and Moran will be used as impact subs this year.

RedDevil55 · 23-03-2019 1:21am

I wouldn't have made that many changes but it's an interesting selection nonetheless. Every outfield player is under 30 years old by my reckoning.

manofwisdom · 23-03-2019 1:51am

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I wouldn't have made that many changes but it's an interesting selection nonetheless. Every outfield player is under 30 years old by my reckoning.

Aren't Jason Doherty and Kevin McLoughlin in their 30s?

Fr Tod Umptious · 23-03-2019 1:54am

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I wouldn't have made that many changes but it's an interesting selection nonetheless. Every outfield player is under 30 years old by my reckoning.

Isn't it a great situation to be in where he can make 5 or 6 changes for the last game safe in the knowledge that they have Div 1 secure, plenty of players used, two good away wins and the outside chance of a final, plus if it's for the winning late on he can spring some real experience from the bench, all without the services of one of the best free takers in the game.

This time last year they needed McLoughlin and about 11 steps to safe them late on the last day.

Whatever happens Sunday I think we as fans should be a little bit confident that we will see the Mayo we have become used to this decade as the summer get going.

RedDevil55 · 23-03-2019 2:00am

manofwisdom wrote: »

Aren't Jason Doherty and Kevin McLoughlin in their 30s?

Not until later this year. According to an old programme I have, McLoughlin will be 30 in May and Doherty is 30 in November.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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