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Irish Steve wrote: »I don't know what the operator's SOP would be for this situation, the commanders first responsibility is for the safety of the passengers, and once it was back on a hard surface, there was not much chance of any more damage than had been done, the engines were not going to have to operate at much above ground idle, and if they were not aware of any handling problems, and at low speed, the failed tyre may not have been evident, getting the aircraft to the arrival gate was going to be a better option than blocking the runway for a period of time, and (depending on availability of handlers, suitable equipment etc) possibly having to then get the passengers off by using the emergency evacuation slides, and even a text book evacutation will normally result in about a 3% injury rate, not normally serious, but still a nuisance that is better avoided if possible.
After off-roading though such as what happened here, i would have thought that it would be better to shut down the engines and evacuate, or at least request a visual inspection by fire crews before proceeding? from a safety point of view, there could have been fuel/fluid leaks from the gear or wings/flaps, coupled with hot brakes and lovely green grass to get the fire started..
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, just throwing another point of view on it.
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Accident: Luxair DH8D at Saarbruecken on Sep 30th 2015, takeoff ending on belly, smoke in cabin
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Sep 30th 2015 18:47Z, last updated Friday, Feb 19th 2016 16:35Z
A Luxair de Havilland Dash 8-400, registration LX-LGH performing flight LG-9562 from Saarbruecken (Germany) to Luxembourg (Luxembourg) with 16 passengers and 4 crew, was in the initial climb out of Saarbruecken's runway 09, landing gear was already retracted, when smoke developed in the aft cabin prompting the crew to put the aircraft back down onto the runway (length 2000 meters/6560 feet) for a belly landing. The aircraft came to a stop about 400 meters/1300 feet short of the runway end. All occupants evacuated safely, no injuries occurred. The damage to the aircraft is being assessed.
Germany's BFU have opened an investigation into the accident.
Saarbruecken Airport and Saarbruecken Police reported the aircraft was climbing out, gear was already retracted, when smoke developed in the aft cabin. The crew put the aircraft back onto the runway for a gear up landing.
The airline confirmed an incident at Saarbruecken during an aborted departure. The pilot, 45, had accumulated more than 10,000 hours of flying experience and was assisted by a 27 year old first officer.
On Nov 17th 2015 the airline reported in a press conference, that the first officer had retracted the landing gear too early, about three seconds prior to rotation and before the captain aborted takeoff causing the aircraft to settle on its belly without landing gear which resulted in heat and smoke in the cabin. The captain as well as cabin crew acted well in the course of the occurrence, the first officer however was suspended.
On Feb 16th 2016 Germany's BFU released their interim report within their September Bulletin in German reporting the captain (45, ATPL, 11,927 hours total, 3,649 hours on type) was pilot flying, the first officer (27, CPL, 3,295 hours total, 1,483 hours on type) was pilot monitoring. The crew prepared for a departure from runway 09 with reduced engine power at 81%. The BFU released following transcript:
10:16:24 PF take off, my controls
10:16:25 PNF your controls
10:16:27 PNF spoiler is closed
10:16:30 PNF autofeather armed
10:16:33 PF looks like spring
10:16:35 PNF yeah, power is checked
10:16:36 PNF 80 knots
10:16:37 PF checked
10:16:40 PNF V1, rotate
10:16:42 Background click sound, probably gear lever UP
10:16:43 PNF upps, sorry
The BFU stated that the aircraft had reached 5 degrees nose up at 127 KIAS when the gear retracted, the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface at 10:16:44 for the first time, the tailstrike warning activated. After three contacts the aircraft skidded to a stop 875 meters past the first runway contact, the aircraft came to rest abeam the PAPI lights runway 27.
Got to be a sickening feeling
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Accident: Ethiopian B788 at Addis Ababa on Mar 4th 2016, nose gear collapsed at gate
By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Mar 4th 2016 18:02Z, last updated Tuesday, Mar 8th 2016 17:26Z
An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 787-800, registration ET-ASH performing flight ET-702 from Addis Ababa (Ethiopia) to Rome Fiumicino (Italy), had completed boarding and was about to depart when the aircraft settled on its nose after the nose gear collapsed. One flight attendant received minor injuries, the aircraft received substantial damage.
A ground observer reported that the aircraft bound for Rome Fiumicino had completed boarding and was about to depart the gate, when the nose gear collapsed.
On Mar 8th 2016 The Aviation Herald heard, that there had been a number of gear warnings on the ground on previous flights, a gear warning occurred again and a mechanics was called to check. The mechanics attempted to recycle the gear lever as had also been done on previous occasions, however, no gear pins had been installed this time.
Inquiries with the airline remained unanswered so far.
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From Iron Maiden's FB Page, tour only been going around a week, poor Bruce got his 747 Rating especially
ED FORCE ONE BADLY DAMAGED ON THE GROUND IN COMODORO ARTURO MERINO BENITEZ (SANTIAGO, CHILE) AIRPORT
CONCERTS IN ARGENTINA TOMORROW AND TUESDAY EXPECTED TO GO AHEAD AS PLANNED
Ed Force One was this morning tethered to a tow truck to be taken for refuelling prior to flying over the Andes to Cordoba for the next show. On moving the steering pin that is part of the mechanism that connects the ground tug to the aircraft seemingly fell out. On making a turn the aircraft had no steering and collided with the ground tug badly damaging the undercarriage, two of the aircrafts engines and injuring two ground tug operators, both of whom have been taken to hospital. We hope of course that they make a full and speedy recovery and we will be closely monitoring their progress. The flight engineers are on site and evaluating the damage, but their initial report is that the engines have suffered large damage and will require an extended period of maintenance and possibly two new engines.
We are currently making contingency arrangements to get to the show in Cordoba tomorrow with band, crew and equipment intact. Fortunately the 20 tons of equipment had not been loaded onto EF1 at the time of the accident. Although this is tragic for our beautiful plane we do not expect this to affect our concert schedule including the next 2 shows in Cordoba and Buenos Aires. And we hope to find a new Ed Force One to continue this adventure with us in the near future. We will keep everyone updated when we know more, so keep checking only on this site for official news.
To finish on a high note however, our visit to Chile was a huge success with 58,000 fans coming to the show as totally brilliant as ever in the Stadium Nacional last night. We love you guys!
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