Air Accident / Incident thread

pepe the prawn

Dunno if this would be of any use or interest to people, a thread solely for notification and discussion (not waffle) of air accidents and incidents etc. If not then the mods can feel free to delete if required.



Ex Ryanair 737-800 which was only delivered to its new owner in South Korea in the past few weeks, pressurisation problem. HL8049, formerly EI-DYH

http://avherald.com/h?article=49158d84&opt=0

pepe the prawn

The importance of an effective and complete pre flight.... Cessna 208 Caravan impacted hedge on takeoff....

http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/REPORT%202015-020_0.pdf

andy_g

Santa even had issues.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4914d291&opt=0

smurfjed

Incident: Stobart AT72 at Isle of Man on Dec 22nd 2015, tail scrape on landing

By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Dec 29th 2015 17:09Z, last updated Tuesday, Dec 29th 2015 17:09Z
A Stobart Air Avions de Transport Regional ATR-72-212A on behalf of Flybe, registration EI-REM performing flight BE-821 from Manchester,EN to Isle of Man (UK) with 70 people on board, landed on Ronaldsway Airport's runway 26, however, the tail contacted the runway surface. The aircraft rolled out without further incident and taxied to the apron.

The occurrence aircraft remained on the ground for 13 hours before resuming service.

The French BEA reported in their weekly bulletin that the aircraft sustained minor damage when it suffered a tail scrape upon landing at Isle of Man's Ronaldsway Aerodrome. The occurrence was rated a serious incident and is being investigated by the AAIB.

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smurfjed

Incident: Ryanair B738 at Dublin on Dec 27th 2015, flaps up landing

By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Dec 27th 2015 18:50Z, last updated Monday, Dec 28th 2015 13:28Z
A Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EKB performing flight FR-7063 from Alicante,SP (Spain) to Dublin (Ireland) with 160 passengers and 6 crew, was on approach to Dublin's runway 10 maintaining 4000 feet when the crew reported they were maintaining minimum clean speed and requested to maintain 4000 feet and be pulled off the approach. The aircraft entered a hold, following working the checklists the crew advised they were ready for a full stop high speed landing and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft landed safely on runway 10 at high speed (about 190 knots over ground) about 25 minutes after levelling off at 4000 feet and requesting to maintain 4000 feet and vacated the runway via a high speed turn off and stopped to have the brakes inspected by emergency services. Following the inspection the aircraft taxied to the gate.

A passenger reported the captain announced they needed to perform a flaps up landing at Dublin.

On Dec 28th 2015 the airline stated: "This flight from Alicante to Dublin (27 Dec) experienced a cockpit warning light indicating a possible flaps issue on approach into Dublin. In line with safety procedures, the crew alerted ATC and the airport fire service, and the aircraft performed a flapless landing, which was otherwise normal. The aircraft was inspected by Ryanair engineers who repaired the fault and cleared the aircraft to return to service."

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Bsal

A new series of Air Crash Investigation starting tonight 9pm Nat Geo.

Bsal

New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

EchoIndia

Bsal wrote: »

New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

A chilling official report to read.

homerjay2005

Bsal wrote: »

New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

any video links to the episode?

Buffman

I didn't see this posted here before and it didn't really make the news. The 737 was very lucky in this incident, could have easily been a repeat of GOL1907.

From AVHearld:

A Ceiba Intercontinental Boeing 737-800, registration 3C-LLY performing flight C2-71 from Dakar (Senegal) to Cotonou (Benin), was enroute at FL350 over the Senegal 45 minutes into the flight at 18:13Z when the flight path crossed with an ambulance jet, a Senegalair Hawker Siddeley HS-125 registration 6V-AIM from Ouagadougou (Burkina Faso) to Dakar (Senegal) carrying a patient, a doctor, two nurses and three crew. The Boeing 737-800 continued their flight but diverted to their ultimate destination and home base Malabo (Equatorial Guinea) where the aircraft landed safely.

The HS-125 subsequently flew beyond Dakar crossing Dakar at FL350 and disappeared over the Atlantic Ocean, presumably crashing into the Ocean after running out of fuel.

On Jan 8th 2016 Senegal's BEA reported in a press conference, that the ambulance jet of Senegalair had been cleared to climb and maintain FL340, however, climbed above that assigned level and was enroute at FL350 when it collided with the Boeing. The HS-125 has not been found after it flew beyond Dakar and disappeared from radar. The BEA is looking into the reasons as to why the HS-125 was flying at the wrong level, including altimeter malfunction.

It will be very interesting to see what was the situation with TCAS in this incident. Is it possible that a faulty altimeter was giving a false reading to the transponder on the HS125 and as a result the 737 TCAS or ATC didn't see it as a threat?

smurfjed

New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

I read the accident report for this, its scary as to how fast the fire took control of the aircraft and how a simple thing as dispatching with a PACK inoperative helped!

UPS have now invested in a smoke protection system called EVAS (http://www.visionsafe.com/) to help the crew if this happens in the future.

ElNino

Bsal wrote: »

New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

Very good episode.

Next week is Asiana Airlines Flight 214 and I don't envisage that it will be pleasant viewing for the crew involved.

ElNino

homerjay2005 wrote: »

any video links to the episode?

Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

Pat Dunne

ElNino wrote: »

Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

Why not send him a PM, with the link if you have one!

Growler!!!

Buffman wrote: »

I didn't see this posted here before and it didn't really make the news. The 737 was very lucky in this incident, could have easily been a repeat of GOL1907.

From AVHearld:

It will be very interesting to see what was the situation with TCAS in this incident. Is it possible that a faulty altimeter was giving a false reading to the transponder on the HS125 and as a result the 737 TCAS or ATC didn't see it as a threat?

The HS125 was ex EI-WJN based in Shannon for many years.

squonk

What happened the HS125? Did the mid air collision cause depressurisation that incapacitated the crew but allowed the flight continue on it's heading indefinitely? It just sounds like an awful incident and I'm surprised it wasn't reported on at the time.

Actually, on reading the full link the hypothesis above seems to be shared by the investigators. Very sad incident all the same.

ElNino

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Why not send him a PM, with the link if you have one!

I don't have one.

Gaoth Laidir

Emergency landing at East Midlands airport a while ago. Aircraft still blocking the runway.

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/East-Midlands-Airport-incident/story-28528729-detail/story.html

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homerjay2005

ElNino wrote: »

Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

of course they are, they normally are on youtube and you can embed youtube here.

mr.anonymous

http://avherald.com/h?article=4921bc12&opt=0

Brazilian ATR72 came down short of the runway, struck a fence and went around. Landed safely later on 2nd attempt.

Very close to crashing on the first approach. Viz between 100 and 1000m. At the time of the accident the viz was closer to 100 - doubt they should have been attempting the approach.

Pat Dunne

ElNino wrote: »

Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

Sure let the Mods worry about that.

KoolKid

Curious to what this may have hit....

Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.

Bsal

KoolKid wrote: »

Curious to what this may have hit....

Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.

Only thing I can plausibly think of is migrating birds. Some geese have been known to fly at altitudes above FL300.

JCX BXC

Bsal wrote: »

Only thing I can plausibly think of is migrating birds. Some geese have been known to fly at altitudes above FL300.

Really? Wow that's quite amazing. Imagine flying along looking out the window to see you overtaking a few birds!

Bsal

I found some more information about the high flying birds here, Im probably completely wrong about what hit it maybe a piece of volcanic rock lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_flight_heights

KoolKid

How do they survive in those temperatures?

Bog Man 1

The dead man may be linked to a 1949 DC3 plane crash .
http://www.thejournal.ie/saddleworth-moor-mystery-old-man-1949-plane-crash-ireland-2573043-Jan2016/

Shannon757

KoolKid wrote: »

Curious to what this may have hit....

Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.

homerjay2005

ElNino wrote: »

Very good episode.

Next week is Asiana Airlines Flight 214 and I don't envisage that it will be pleasant viewing for the crew involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoey_ve_y0A

ill post the others as i find them.

homerjay2005

here is episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADzs9YhhBeo

here is the UPS accident - episode 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vuK1-sJHQc

and 4 is here also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9rrCvTW3MY

and 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOS6sM8APEU

Stealthirl

Terror in San Francisco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb7Cunrs5CI

pepe the prawn

http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/REPORT%202016-002.pdf

Twin otter survey aircraft, out of Weston, someone forgot to put all the screws back in the holes........

_Tombstone_

Any sign of report on that helicopter crash in abbeyshrule?

That should be good.

pepe the prawn

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

Any sign of report on that helicopter crash in abbeyshrule?

That should be good.

The investigators probably don't even know where to start with that circus.

donkey balls

pepe the prawn wrote: »

The investigators probably don't even know where to start with that circus.

Was that last year or the year before that the incident happened,Seems ages ago or else it must be me getting old.

Oscar Bravo

July 15th 2015

pepe the prawn

http://avherald.com/h?article=49407521&opt=0

Sun Express 738 touched down with left main gear on the grass in Germany, steered back out of it again after 260 meters.

Should he have brought the aircraft to a stop on the runway and requested assistance or was he right to taxi onwards to the apron? Aircraft suffered some damage during the incident to fan blades, lights and flaps, and also a burst nose wheel tyre.

Irish Steve

I don't know what the operator's SOP would be for this situation, the commanders first responsibility is for the safety of the passengers, and once it was back on a hard surface, there was not much chance of any more damage than had been done, the engines were not going to have to operate at much above ground idle, and if they were not aware of any handling problems, and at low speed, the failed tyre may not have been evident, getting the aircraft to the arrival gate was going to be a better option than blocking the runway for a period of time, and (depending on availability of handlers, suitable equipment etc) possibly having to then get the passengers off by using the emergency evacuation slides, and even a text book evacutation will normally result in about a 3% injury rate, not normally serious, but still a nuisance that is better avoided if possible.

pepe the prawn

Irish Steve wrote: »

I don't know what the operator's SOP would be for this situation, the commanders first responsibility is for the safety of the passengers, and once it was back on a hard surface, there was not much chance of any more damage than had been done, the engines were not going to have to operate at much above ground idle, and if they were not aware of any handling problems, and at low speed, the failed tyre may not have been evident, getting the aircraft to the arrival gate was going to be a better option than blocking the runway for a period of time, and (depending on availability of handlers, suitable equipment etc) possibly having to then get the passengers off by using the emergency evacuation slides, and even a text book evacutation will normally result in about a 3% injury rate, not normally serious, but still a nuisance that is better avoided if possible.

After off-roading though such as what happened here, i would have thought that it would be better to shut down the engines and evacuate, or at least request a visual inspection by fire crews before proceeding? from a safety point of view, there could have been fuel/fluid leaks from the gear or wings/flaps, coupled with hot brakes and lovely green grass to get the fire started..

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, just throwing another point of view on it.

smurfjed

Accident: Luxair DH8D at Saarbruecken on Sep 30th 2015, takeoff ending on belly, smoke in cabin
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Sep 30th 2015 18:47Z, last updated Friday, Feb 19th 2016 16:35Z
A Luxair de Havilland Dash 8-400, registration LX-LGH performing flight LG-9562 from Saarbruecken (Germany) to Luxembourg (Luxembourg) with 16 passengers and 4 crew, was in the initial climb out of Saarbruecken's runway 09, landing gear was already retracted, when smoke developed in the aft cabin prompting the crew to put the aircraft back down onto the runway (length 2000 meters/6560 feet) for a belly landing. The aircraft came to a stop about 400 meters/1300 feet short of the runway end. All occupants evacuated safely, no injuries occurred. The damage to the aircraft is being assessed.

Germany's BFU have opened an investigation into the accident.

Saarbruecken Airport and Saarbruecken Police reported the aircraft was climbing out, gear was already retracted, when smoke developed in the aft cabin. The crew put the aircraft back onto the runway for a gear up landing.

The airline confirmed an incident at Saarbruecken during an aborted departure. The pilot, 45, had accumulated more than 10,000 hours of flying experience and was assisted by a 27 year old first officer.

On Nov 17th 2015 the airline reported in a press conference, that the first officer had retracted the landing gear too early, about three seconds prior to rotation and before the captain aborted takeoff causing the aircraft to settle on its belly without landing gear which resulted in heat and smoke in the cabin. The captain as well as cabin crew acted well in the course of the occurrence, the first officer however was suspended.

On Feb 16th 2016 Germany's BFU released their interim report within their September Bulletin in German reporting the captain (45, ATPL, 11,927 hours total, 3,649 hours on type) was pilot flying, the first officer (27, CPL, 3,295 hours total, 1,483 hours on type) was pilot monitoring. The crew prepared for a departure from runway 09 with reduced engine power at 81%. The BFU released following transcript:

10:16:24 PF take off, my controls
10:16:25 PNF your controls
10:16:27 PNF spoiler is closed
10:16:30 PNF autofeather armed
10:16:33 PF looks like spring
10:16:35 PNF yeah, power is checked
10:16:36 PNF 80 knots
10:16:37 PF checked
10:16:40 PNF V1, rotate
10:16:42 Background click sound, probably gear lever UP
10:16:43 PNF upps, sorry

The BFU stated that the aircraft had reached 5 degrees nose up at 127 KIAS when the gear retracted, the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface at 10:16:44 for the first time, the tailstrike warning activated. After three contacts the aircraft skidded to a stop 875 meters past the first runway contact, the aircraft came to rest abeam the PAPI lights runway 27.

Got to be a sickening feeling


Full report at avherald.com

smurfjed

Incident: Lionair B739 at Surabaya on Feb 20th 2016, runway excursion on landing

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Feb 20th 2016 22:25Z, last updated Saturday, Feb 20th 2016 22:27Z
A Lionair Boeing 737-900, registration PK-LFG performing flight JT-263 from Balikpapan to Surabaya (Indonesia) with 205 people on board, landed on Surabaya's runway 10 (length 3000 meters/9845 feet) in thunderstorms and heavy rain at about 11:08L (04:08Z). The aircraft came to a stop about 80 meters past the runway end with the nose wheel on soft ground past the runway end safety area. There were no injuries, the aircraft received minor if any damage.

205 people, is this normal for a B739?

Irish Steve

smurfjed wrote: »

205 people, is this normal for a B739?

Apparently, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation, the 737-900ER has extra exit doors, and a maximum in single class mode of 220. Didn't realise it was that capable, it's intended as an acceptable alternative to the 757-200.

smurfjed

http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/REPORT%202016-003_0.pdf

Report relating to the Ryanair fender bender...

deaddonkey15

smurfjed wrote: »

Report relating to the Ryanair fender bender...

I was surprised to see the captain of the first aircraft was only 25 and with 3,540 hours, is this common? Interesting that his total flying experience prior to the 737 was only 100 hours, I didn't think that was possible.

martinsvi

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I was surprised to see the captain of the first aircraft was only 25 and with 3,540 hours, is this common? Interesting that his total flying experience prior to the 737 was only 100 hours, I didn't think that was possible.

what I found reading most of reports,is that sometimes authorities tend to round up pre-type rating hours as if they're not really relevant. I've even seen a report saying something like 5000 tt and 5000 on type..

as for the command position, yes, Ryanair promotes captains from 3000 hours, if they demonstrate the skill required for the post. Now, the important bit here is that it's not the new guy who caused it

pepe the prawn

martinsvi wrote: »

what I found reading most of reports,is that sometimes authorities tend to round up pre-type rating hours as if they're not really relevant. I've even seen a report saying something like 5000 tt and 5000 on type..

as for the command position, yes, Ryanair promotes captains from 3000 hours, if they demonstrate the skill required for the post. Now, the important bit here is that it's not the new guy who caused it

Exactly. I must admit, when I first read the report, one of the first things I checked when i noticed the ages of the commanders was whether the younger one was the offending driver... Not in a sense that i expected that it would be, certainly not, just more of a curiosity thing.

KoolKid

Incident: Cityjet RJ85 at Dublin on Feb 25th 2016, rejected takeoff due to engine failureBy Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Feb 26th 2016 20:25Z, last updated Friday, Feb 26th 2016 21:15Z

A Cityjet Avro RJ-85, registration EI-RJYperforming flight WX-124 from Dublin (Ireland) to London City,EN (UK), was accelerating for takeoff from Dublin's runway 28 when a loud bang and smoke from an engine (LF507) was observed. The crew rejected takeoff at low speed and vacated the runway via taxiway E3 (about 760 meters down the runway), the crew advised no emergency services were needed, however, emergency services had already responded. The aircraft taxied to the apron.

A replacement Avro RJ-85 registration EI-RJX reached London with a delay of 90 minutes.

The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground 28 hours after rejecting takeoff.

smurfjed

Accident: Ethiopian B788 at Addis Ababa on Mar 4th 2016, nose gear collapsed at gate
By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Mar 4th 2016 18:02Z, last updated Tuesday, Mar 8th 2016 17:26Z
An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 787-800, registration ET-ASH performing flight ET-702 from Addis Ababa (Ethiopia) to Rome Fiumicino (Italy), had completed boarding and was about to depart when the aircraft settled on its nose after the nose gear collapsed. One flight attendant received minor injuries, the aircraft received substantial damage.

A ground observer reported that the aircraft bound for Rome Fiumicino had completed boarding and was about to depart the gate, when the nose gear collapsed.

On Mar 8th 2016 The Aviation Herald heard, that there had been a number of gear warnings on the ground on previous flights, a gear warning occurred again and a mechanics was called to check. The mechanics attempted to recycle the gear lever as had also been done on previous occasions, however, no gear pins had been installed this time.

Inquiries with the airline remained unanswered so far.

Ouch

pepe the prawn

Someone is going to be in the sh1t big time for this one...

http://www.airlive.net/news-easyjet-flight-stopped-moments-before-take-off-after-passenger-spots-a-spanner-stuck-in-the-wing/

scudzilla

From Iron Maiden's FB Page, tour only been going around a week, poor Bruce got his 747 Rating especially

ED FORCE ONE BADLY DAMAGED ON THE GROUND IN COMODORO ARTURO MERINO BENITEZ (SANTIAGO, CHILE) AIRPORT
CONCERTS IN ARGENTINA TOMORROW AND TUESDAY EXPECTED TO GO AHEAD AS PLANNED
Ed Force One was this morning tethered to a tow truck to be taken for refuelling prior to flying over the Andes to Cordoba for the next show. On moving the steering pin that is part of the mechanism that connects the ground tug to the aircraft seemingly fell out. On making a turn the aircraft had no steering and collided with the ground tug badly damaging the undercarriage, two of the aircrafts engines and injuring two ground tug operators, both of whom have been taken to hospital. We hope of course that they make a full and speedy recovery and we will be closely monitoring their progress. The flight engineers are on site and evaluating the damage, but their initial report is that the engines have suffered large damage and will require an extended period of maintenance and possibly two new engines.
We are currently making contingency arrangements to get to the show in Cordoba tomorrow with band, crew and equipment intact. Fortunately the 20 tons of equipment had not been loaded onto EF1 at the time of the accident. Although this is tragic for our beautiful plane we do not expect this to affect our concert schedule including the next 2 shows in Cordoba and Buenos Aires. And we hope to find a new Ed Force One to continue this adventure with us in the near future. We will keep everyone updated when we know more, so keep checking only on this site for official news.
To finish on a high note however, our visit to Chile was a huge success with 58,000 fans coming to the show as totally brilliant as ever in the Stadium Nacional last night. We love you guys!

Bsal

The 787 is having some technical problems with unreliable airspeed indications

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-faa-warn-787-pilots-of-bad-airspeed-data-423735/