Elder Scrolls Online

Calhoun · 13-01-2014 3:34pm

I found some swords with enchants and they looked really cool, i think the gear gets better as you find more of it. Color scheme ect it seems to be pretty much similar to Skyrim in allot of places.

I love the alliances to an extent as it clearly defines the battle lines but also dislike them as some of them fit certain classes so well its a shame you cant roll any race to any alliance (example: Khajit dont fit there alliance to an extent but the Redguard does).

Right now as a single player lore/RP type of a game i would buy but until i see end game content and pvp i am not sure about it as a MMO purchase.

Dermighty · 13-01-2014 3:48pm

Calhoun wrote: »

I found some swords with enchants and they looked really cool, i think the gear gets better as you find more of it. Color scheme ect it seems to be pretty much similar to Skyrim in allot of places.

I love the alliances to an extent as it clearly defines the battle lines but also dislike them as some of them fit certain classes so well its a shame you cant roll any race to any alliance (example: Khajit dont fit there alliance to an extent but the Redguard does).

Right now as a single player lore/RP type of a game i would buy but until i see end game content and pvp i am not sure about it as a MMO purchase.

The gear does look like it'll improve a lot, in that vein I imagine that if they used the Skyrim approach to loot the blue and purple class of weapons/items won't look like a space suit compared to plain old mail. I was happy with subtle differences (like dragons teeth or that sort of thing).

I haven't read much about the alliances, as to how they will affect the game I'm unsure. if WoW was Horde vs. Alliance is this Aldmeri vs. Ebonheart vs. Daggerfall?

I was looking on G2play today and they have 36% off the RRP of the game as a preorder (regular digital edition pre order) and it's still €45! Link saying that the RRP is €70. I'm not sure how accurate an RRP that is but I imagine the game will be €50 at least, which is a lot for only 30 days!

Calhoun · 13-01-2014 3:57pm

Any idea what the sub will be? i imagine it will be 12.99 keeping it line with the standard market price for a mmo but i am hearing allot of critism online for it having a sub. I'm not sure if thats because the sub is to much or because there is one at all.

Dermighty · 13-01-2014 4:09pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Any idea what the sub will be? i imagine it will be 12.99 keeping it line with the standard market price for a mmo but i am hearing allot of critism online for it having a sub. I'm not sure if thats because the sub is to much or because there is one at all.

IIRC its €14.95 a month (Eve Online is €14.95 a month)

Noxin · 13-01-2014 4:58pm

What payment model will The Elder Scrolls Online use?
We will be announcing exact payment methods at a later date, but globally we will be supporting multiple payment options. Players must purchase The Elder Scrolls Online in order to play it. They will have unlimited access for the first 30 days following activation and can continue beyond that with a subscription of $14.99/month (€12.99 / £8.99).

http://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/home?region=UK#

Hopefully they stick to this!

Dermighty · 13-01-2014 5:24pm

Noxin wrote: »

What payment model will The Elder Scrolls Online use?
We will be announcing exact payment methods at a later date, but globally we will be supporting multiple payment options. Players must purchase The Elder Scrolls Online in order to play it. They will have unlimited access for the first 30 days following activation and can continue beyond that with a subscription of $14.99/month (€12.99 / £8.99).

http://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/home?region=UK#

Hopefully they stick to this!

The game needs to be very good to warrant a subscription. Not because games with subscriptions are bad or anything but people won't pay for crap

Venom · 14-01-2014 2:12pm

Dermighty wrote: »

The game needs to be very good to warrant a subscription. Not because games with subscriptions are bad or anything but people won't pay for crap

Not to mention there are a ton of other really good F2P MMO's in the same genre out there such as Rift, Aion and LOTRO along with the likes of B2P like GW2.

Personally I'm gonna wait a few months to see how quick new content gets added to warrant a subscription. Most, if not every P2P MMO launch in the last few years has been nothing more than a cash grab at launch and the game going F2P not to much later.

Dermighty · 18-01-2014 3:06pm

Venom wrote: »

Not to mention there are a ton of other really good F2P MMO's in the same genre out there such as Rift, Aion and LOTRO along with the likes of B2P like GW2.

Personally I'm gonna wait a few months to see how quick new content gets added to warrant a subscription. Most, if not every P2P MMO launch in the last few years has been nothing more than a cash grab at launch and the game going F2P not to much later.

I played lord of the rings online, rift and swtor when they were not F2P and I didn't like them then and I don't like them now. I think its a bad thing that new MMO's are weighted against other games which are F2P because a lot of the reason they are F2P is because they are not big successful games. Rift is not a good game.

I thought swtor was initially great but died a death for me. Even if Elder Scrolls was bad I would never return to the other games anyway. The payment model is only relevant if you would choose one of the two games, i.e. A p2p or a F2P game whereas I would gladly pick neither.

Because I've stopped playing any mmo, because I got sick of the games, it doesn't matter whether they are f2p or not. In general f2p mmo games are not good, either graphically or otherwise. Unfortunately world of warcraft is still the most well rounded mmo I've played.

Does that make sense?

Dcully · 18-01-2014 6:13pm

I have to disagree with you about rift, outside of maybe wow it has the best endgame pve of any mmo on the market.

Venom · 18-01-2014 8:28pm

Dermighty wrote: »

I played lord of the rings online, rift and swtor when they were not F2P and I didn't like them then and I don't like them now. I think its a bad thing that new MMO's are weighted against other games which are F2P because a lot of the reason they are F2P is because they are not big successful games. Rift is not a good game.

I thought swtor was initially great but died a death for me. Even if Elder Scrolls was bad I would never return to the other games anyway. The payment model is only relevant if you would choose one of the two games, i.e. A p2p or a F2P game whereas I would gladly pick neither.

Because I've stopped playing any mmo, because I got sick of the games, it doesn't matter whether they are f2p or not. In general f2p mmo games are not good, either graphically or otherwise. Unfortunately world of warcraft is still the most well rounded mmo I've played.

Does that make sense?

I know exactly where your coming from as I feel the same way about P2P and F2P games. If a game is not for me the cost doesn't matter in the long run. The good thing about the current MMO scene is that players can jump from one game to another each time new content gets added.

Saying that, most new MMO's suffer from lack of initial content so players hit the endgame quick and then have nothing to do, unlike WoW which had a huge amount at launch so even running alt characters had new content to play through depending on race and which zones you choose to level up in.

Sadly most post WoW MMO's still fail to add new content quickly with Rift being the exception in that the content added is not just to get players to spend money in a cash shop. Consumers are just not going to put up with crap like that if a subscription is used by the developer and you only have to look at SWTOR and TSW to see that. For me, if a game uses a subscription model then everything in the cash shop needs to being able to be gotten ingame.

Dermighty · 18-01-2014 9:03pm

A lot of it for me is I don't want to see vanity items advertised in the game (obviously a crucial component to F2P games). Counter Strike Global Offensive gives you rewards at the end of successful rounds (sometimes) such as cases which may contain new weapons skins etc but you have to buy the key to unlock the cases. I have zero interest in paying the microtransactions for things like.

That's a business model in itself and I accept that it is there and that some people like it or pay for stuff but when it comes to an mmo, something you are likely to invest in I would happily pay a monthly subscription so I don't have to deal with that stuff.

Noxin · 30-01-2014 12:09pm

Ugh, the way they have priced the game purchase is turning me off.

In what f-ing world does $79.99 = €79.99 ?

This alone has just turned me right off. I don't mind buying the game or paying a subscription. But this sort of bull$hit of d1cking over euro customers is very annoying.

Calhoun · 30-01-2014 12:29pm

Even at that i believe the price is well and above the RRP for a standard mmo release. I would expect the 79.99 to be the price of a digital deluxe but with the decline of the PC platform i normally dont expect more than 59.99.

Coupled with this, the game doesnt do anything hugely different from skyrim so i doubt i will buy it at launch (if at all).

Dermighty · 01-02-2014 4:59pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Even at that i believe the price is well and above the RRP for a standard mmo release. I would expect the 79.99 to be the price of a digital deluxe but with the decline of the PC platform i normally dont expect more than 59.99.

Coupled with this, the game doesnt do anything hugely different from skyrim so i doubt i will buy it at launch (if at all).

€39.99 on G2play at the moment.

That includes the game, early access and the explorer pack which allows you to play any race in any alliance.

That's a good price. €59.99 is ludicrous!

Completionist · 01-02-2014 11:58pm

Dermighty wrote: »

€39.99 on G2play at the moment.

That includes the game, early access and the explorer pack which allows you to play any race in any alliance.

That's a good price. €59.99 is ludicrous!

I don't think that includes the Imperial race which is given with the €79.99 edition.

Dermighty · 02-02-2014 6:47pm

Completionist wrote: »

I don't think that includes the Imperial race which is given with the €79.99 edition.

Doesn't look like it. I wouldn't pay 20 (or 40) quid for an extra race either though.

Noxin · 05-02-2014 1:16am

new beta invites went out today.

If anyone got one and doesn't want it, feel free to pass it along to me

Completionist · 05-02-2014 4:21am

Curse is giving away 500000 beta keys.

Premium Only: February 4th - 5th, 2014
All Curse Members: February 6th - 10th, 2014
Beta Period: From Friday, February 7th at 12:00PM EST until Monday, February 10th at 11:59PM EST

If you are really desperate for a beta key and think that by the 6th all 500000 keys will have been claimed by premium members then you could always subscribe to premium for a month($5) in order to secure your own key;)

Cina · 05-02-2014 10:37am

500,000? Phwoar.

Got mine in the mail this morning anyway, wasn't blown away by the last beta weekend but I'm willing to try again. It's longer this time too (noon Friday - midnight Monday)

Dcully · 05-02-2014 11:57am

Ive no invite yet despite getting into the last one.
I wasnt impressed last time but id like to try it again.

Peetrik · 05-02-2014 2:33pm

I got one again this morning but I'll be away for most of the weekend.

Really liked the last Beta I have to say. Loads of bugs as its in Beta obviously but I liked the gameplay and that it didn't look too 'Asian grinder mmo' if that makes sense.

Would have preferred open skill development like past ES games instead of picking a class and a few other things but some of the new additions are nice and the crafting looks enjoyable to play about with.

I'm liking what I've seen so far

Dyr · 05-02-2014 2:39pm

I played about 40 miutes of the last beta weekend and found better things to do, just seemed dull

Noxin · 05-02-2014 4:09pm

Strangely enough, mine actually came through this morning about 10 hours after they were initially sent out.

Anyway. Will be testing more this weekend so.

Peetrik · 05-02-2014 4:13pm

Bambi wrote: »

I played about 40 miutes of the last beta weekend and found better things to do, just seemed dull

Just didn't enjoy it or thought it would be different or what?

Dcully · 05-02-2014 4:23pm

Got my code 2 hours ago,long time after they were sent out.

Completionist · 05-02-2014 5:32pm

Does anyone still need a key? I have one spare.

Edit:Sent to cruizer101

cruizer101 · 05-02-2014 5:40pm

Could I get that key Completionist, thanks, pm sent

BeerWolf · 05-02-2014 10:23pm

Just Pre-Ordered the Imperial Edition [Collector's Edition, for PC - comes with a figurine] just for the sake of it... alongside D3's Reaper of Souls CE as well...

Sephiroth_dude · 06-02-2014 9:11am

How big is the client for beta?

Dcully · 06-02-2014 9:50am

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

How big is the client for beta?

My installation is 29.4 GB

Cina · 06-02-2014 10:50am

The problem I see with this is that it'd likely just be a stop-gap for me until WildStar is out (which looks far superior), and that's why I'm not sure it'd be worth forking out €60 to get it, especially as there's only a few months between the 2 games.

It'll take a much better beta weekend this time to convince me.

Dyr · 06-02-2014 12:15pm

Peetrik wrote: »

Just didn't enjoy it or thought it would be different or what?

Maybe my view was coloured by the general negative reception the game had recieved before the beta but it just seemed to be very a vanilla MMO.

I'm not the biggest player of MMO games in anyway

Completionist · 06-02-2014 5:40pm

Curse keys available now, Still some left at the time of this post.

http://www.curse.com/betas/teso-beta-key-giveaway

Peetrik · 06-02-2014 6:03pm

Bambi wrote: »

Maybe my view was coloured by the general negative reception the game had recieved before the beta but it just seemed to be very a vanilla MMO.

I'm not the biggest player of MMO games in anyway

Fair enough, it grabs your attention or it doesn't. I loved the other elder scrolls games so I was pretty forgiving of any problems I found.

Dermighty · 07-02-2014 1:02pm

Play any race in any alliance...

This ruins the game for me!

Though it would have been introduced at a later stage anyway.

kevovek · 07-02-2014 1:22pm

Is the beta live at 12 tonight?

Peetrik · 07-02-2014 1:43pm

kevovek wrote: »

Is the beta live at 12 tonight?

12pm EST = 5pm Irish time (GMT) as far as I can work out. Open to being corrected on that

Dcully · 07-02-2014 2:29pm

Servers went live 2 hours early last time i believe.

Noxin · 07-02-2014 4:12pm

Dermighty wrote: »

Play any race in any alliance...

This ruins the game for me!

Though it would have been introduced at a later stage anyway.

This annoyed me when I initially heard it too but tbh I'm just thinking.. why not? Whats the big deal?
I understand the alliance wars but when playing Skyrim / Oblivion etc.. you see every race in every area. The same with Online. For some RPers it gives them extra option on being an outcast if they choose or whatever.
And if you are dead set on it, you don't have to pick imperial. You can just pick a race as part of a set alliance and continue on your way.

Dermighty · 07-02-2014 4:42pm

Noxin wrote: »

This annoyed me when I initially heard it too but tbh I'm just thinking.. why not? Whats the big deal?
I understand the alliance wars but when playing Skyrim / Oblivion etc.. you see every race in every area. The same with Online. For some RPers it gives them extra option on being an outcast if they choose or whatever.
And if you are dead set on it, you don't have to pick imperial. You can just pick a race as part of a set alliance and continue on your way.

It was more along the lines of "reptiles and cats are not in my alliance, so kill any I see" type thing.

Peetrik · 07-02-2014 5:26pm

Dermighty wrote: »

It was more along the lines of "reptiles and cats are not in my alliance, so kill any I see" type thing.

Racist

Darius.Tr · 07-02-2014 5:26pm

Just got the beta key and currently downloading the client, what time is the beta supposed to start?

kevovek · 07-02-2014 5:34pm

Beta is live now! Just creating my character.

Darius.Tr · 07-02-2014 5:37pm

Well I guess I'm gonna have to wait at least 2-3 hours till I finish downloading

Really hope it's gonna be as good as I think it is.

kevovek · 07-02-2014 7:12pm

Just spent an hour and a half doing some quests and leveling up a bit. I've never really played any other MMO so I have nothing to compare it with but I have enjoyed it so far and will play a bit more later on.

Darius.Tr · 07-02-2014 7:59pm

My internet connection dropped to less than 1 mb/s with less than 3gb left to download...:(

Dermighty · 07-02-2014 9:12pm

Logged on, 26 minute wait time, waited and got connected, ran around for 5 minutes, logged off.

Meh!

Darius.Tr · 07-02-2014 10:56pm

So how are people finding the game so far? I've been stuck on a loading screen for the past 10 minutes, seems like this is already a known issue and been confirmed on forums.
So far I'm quite disappointed with the game though it might be because I haven't played Skyrim and I'm just not used to it.

Lone Stone · 07-02-2014 11:17pm

Nah i think the general feeling among people is disappointment tbh

BeerWolf · 08-02-2014 12:17am

Lone Stone wrote: »

Nah i think the general feeling among people is disappointment tbh

Wild Star it is then, my next MMO!

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