Clare GAA discussion thread

Vinnie222 · 16-02-2019 9:52pm

niallo27 wrote: »

What do you guys make of the ref there, Cork 17 points from frees. Free count something like 32-5.

Most of them were fouls . Shocking game

Limestone Cowboy · 16-02-2019 9:53pm

niallo27 wrote: »

What do you guys make of the ref there, Cork 17 points from frees. Free count something like 32-5.

They ref was brutal but we fouled an awful lot aswell, maybe not 17 scorable frees but way too much. Pulled up cork when lehane was through on goal aswell which should have been an advantage. A really frustrating game to watch.

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 9:57pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

They ref was brutal but we fouled an awful lot aswell, maybe not 17 scorable frees but way too much. Pulled up cork when lehane was through on goal aswell which should have been an advantage. A really frustrating game to watch.

constant fouling anytime Clare went 1 up they gave cheap handy frees away

Donald Trumped · 16-02-2019 9:57pm

I'm afraid our woeful discipline will never get right it seems. Our S&C coach is a fraud. Looked dead on their feet once Cork got motoring. Very very worrying times ahead for the Clare senior hurlers indeed. Donal and Gerry and the management team have to take a long look at yourselves. Unacceptable performance really bar Ian Galvin, Tony Kelly and the evergreen John Conlon. Not happy at all, as this will be the team that will take to the Munster championship fields and looked so out of shape in the end. A short league and championship awaits I'm afraid.

keeponhurling · 16-02-2019 10:02pm

Some of the frees were just stupidity, even late fouls after the ball is gone anyways.
And Horgan just couldn’t miss, but we keep going with the fouling.

The ones (17?) in scoreable positions will get attention , but often we even fouled the Cork backs coming out, giving away the easy frees rather than pressuring them

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:04pm

keeponhurling wrote: »

Some of the frees were just stupidity, even late fouls after the ball is gone anyways.
And Horgan just couldn’t miss, but we keep going with the fouling.

The ones (17?) in scoreable positions will get attention , but often we even fouled the Cork backs coming out, giving away the easy frees rather than pressuring them

every single 1 off em was a free absolutely stupidity u wouldn't see it in a junior match

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:06pm

we need to get Nicky o Connell back in defence...
Bobby Duggan back in the fowards

Limestone Cowboy · 16-02-2019 10:10pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

we need to get Nicky o Connell back in defence...
Bobby Duggan back in the fowards

We might bring back Jim Mcinerney aswell.

Davys Fits · 16-02-2019 10:11pm

Fouling is a problem in Clare and club hurling is the source of it. Its difficult then to try and rid this from your intercounty team. There seems to be an instinct to foul when beaten when one on one and its suffocating the Clare game.

Niallers87 · 16-02-2019 10:13pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

we need to get Nicky o Connell back in defence...
Bobby Duggan back in the fowards

Haha that's a bad a wind up attempt as i have heard!!!

Lads are over reacting a small bit here, it's still only the middle of February, stil time to improve

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:17pm

Niallers87 wrote: »

Haha that's a bad a wind up attempt as i have heard!!!

Lads are over reacting a small bit here, it's still only the middle of February, stil time to improve

shur look at forward line same players coming good again u take Kelly Conlan out what forwards are there???

same with defence constantly opened every attempt cork could Ave 3+ goals scored as for the goalie IL say no more Ronan Taffee or Andrew fahy should Ave been Givin a chance

I know it's only February thank god

niallo27 · 16-02-2019 10:20pm

In fairness Cork always beat us, they have something over us. On the frees I don't agree all of them were frees, there was some very soft ones. Discipline is a big issue but I thought the ref was poor.

niallo27 · 16-02-2019 10:21pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

shur look at forward line same players coming good again u take Kelly Conlan out what forwards are there???

same with defence constantly opened every attempt cork could Ave 3+ goals scored as for the goalie IL say no more Ronan Taffee or Andrew fahy should Ave been Givin a chance

I know it's only February thank god

Galvin got 5 from play.

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:22pm

Donald Trumped wrote: »

I'm afraid our woeful discipline will never get right it seems. Our S&C coach is a fraud. Looked dead on their feet once Cork got motoring. Very very worrying times ahead for the Clare senior hurlers indeed. Donal and Gerry and the management team have to take a long look at yourselves. Unacceptable performance really bar Ian Galvin, Tony Kelly and the evergreen John Conlon. Not happy at all, as this will be the team that will take to the Munster championship fields and looked so out of shape in the end. A short league and championship awaits I'm afraid.

there Going on team based on form....wtf....Malone is no wing back....David mac needs to be Centre back.....

Niallers87 · 16-02-2019 10:24pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

shur look at forward line same players coming good again u take Kelly Conlan out what forwards are there???

same with defence constantly opened every attempt cork could Ave 3+ goals scored as for the goalie IL say no more Ronan Taffee or Andrew fahy should Ave been Givin a chance

I know it's only February thank god

:rolleyes:

Duggan, o'donnell, shanagher, think you might be forgetting Ian galvin too

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:25pm

Niallers87 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Duggan, o'donnell, shanagher, think you might be forgetting Ian galvin too

yep very true what about defence???

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:26pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

yep very true what about defence???

Conor McGrath wen he comes back

Donald Trumped · 16-02-2019 10:29pm

Niallers87 wrote: »

Haha that's a bad a wind up attempt as i have heard!!!

Lads are over reacting a small bit here, it's still only the middle of February, stil time to improve

I just get the impression that there is more for Cork to improve than Clare. Cork were missing Darragh Fitzgibbon, Mark Coleman et al. On the other hand Donal and Gerry set out their stall by playing the best available 15 to them in the league.

I honestly think that things are a bit flat in Clare hurling right now. Heavy beatings at underage in both inter-county and schools hurling and bar Diarmuid Ryan and Aidan McCarthy, the conveyor belt is running on empty.

The match itself will rightly point out to Clare's indiscipline but really the loss of this match came in the 1st half when will a gale behind us, we went back to the dressing rooms level.

Anyways even though its only February I still feel that we are lacking in the physical stakes hugely. I also feel that things are stale under the current management. Who knows they may turn it around, but to me the other top teams have a bit more in the locker. The Wexicans come to town in Ennis on Sunday week. Failure to finish in the top 4 will mean no hurling for the Clare senior hurlers from the 3rd of March to mid-May. To say that will be poor preparation for Clare come championship, would be an understatement.

AnthonyOD1987 · 16-02-2019 10:30pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

Conor McGrath wen he comes back

is mcgrath not gone of the panel for this year?

Niallers87 · 16-02-2019 10:31pm

Dickie9 wrote: »

yep very true what about defence???

There is an issue with defence, Patrick O'Connor, seadhna Morey and Jamie shanahan, still to come back plus oisin O'Brien, that's three starters from last year and a started from 2017, so wouldn't go blowing my beans just yet

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:32pm

Same Clare like should Ave won munster last year very hard to watch.....should Ave beaten galway last year should Ave beaten cork 2day very hard to watch like we're not that far away from been the top team in the country tbh

Niallers87 · 16-02-2019 10:32pm

AnthonyOD1987 wrote: »

is mcgrath not gone of the panel for this year?

He is currently not part of the panel as he is focusing on his studies, I do believe he is due back after the league

Dickie9 · 16-02-2019 10:36pm

I know it's only February and the league but Clare should have been home and hosed by half time

Donald Trumped · 16-02-2019 10:36pm

Niallers87 wrote: »

He is currently not part of the panel as he is focusing on his studies, I do believe he is due back after the league

Don't forget Shane O'Donnell too along with David Reidy also yet to return. Seadna Morey, I believe is back training and perhaps may play a role in the next two weeks against Wexford and Limerick.

letowski · 16-02-2019 10:42pm

Davys Fits wrote: »

Fouling is a problem in Clare and club hurling is the source of it. Its difficult then to try and rid this from your intercounty team. There seems to be an instinct to foul when beaten when one on one and its suffocating the Clare game.

It's a very good point, often games in the county championship are decided by who has the better freetaker. Clare are way too grabby in the tackle, it's going to take a while to get out of this bad habit. 15 points conceded was crazy.

I thought on balance we were the better team, slightly. Things like the Duggan's missed frees, the fortuitous goal and the Kelly wide incorrectly(?) called by the umpire went against us. Even with that said, it was another poor game, no pace or physicality in it at all. Alot of Clare players went out of the game in the second half, most notably our wing forwards, while Golden didn't play well. Ian Galvin was superb in that roaming forward role, but at the expense of Podge who played closer to goal.. ie. they are both vying for that role, nobody has put in a strong claim for SOD's jersey yet.

Backs over all were ok, discipline shocking as mentioned. Cleary and Malone did fine on Harnedy and Lehane, all four of those players didn't hurl much ball, actually Clare were able to do a good job in closing down the space the, just inexplicable discipline cost us. McInerney did well on Walsh. Hayes and Fitz were a little better, Hayes settled after the yellow early on.

letowski · 16-02-2019 10:54pm

Donald Trumped wrote: »

I just get the impression that there is more for Cork to improve than Clare. Cork were missing Darragh Fitzgibbon, Mark Coleman et al. On the other hand Donal and Gerry set out their stall by playing the best available 15 to them in the league.

I honestly think that things are a bit flat in Clare hurling right now. Heavy beatings at underage in both inter-county and schools hurling and bar Diarmuid Ryan and Aidan McCarthy, the conveyor belt is running on empty.

The match itself will rightly point out to Clare's indiscipline but really the loss of this match came in the 1st half when will a gale behind us, we went back to the dressing rooms level.

Anyways even though its only February I still feel that we are lacking in the physical stakes hugely. I also feel that things are stale under the current management. Who knows they may turn it around, but to me the other top teams have a bit more in the locker. The Wexicans come to town in Ennis on Sunday week. Failure to finish in the top 4 will mean no hurling for the Clare senior hurlers from the 3rd of March to mid-May. To say that will be poor preparation for Clare come championship, would be an understatement.

Agreed, the longer Cork stayed in the game, the less confidence I had in us pushing on. I get that same feeling about us being flat. Last year I think the form of Duggan and Conlon emerging as leaders really drove us on along with tigerish workrate without being badly disciplined. There was a hunger there too, I worry last year might have taken alot of that desire out of us. This year it doesn't look like anybody new is stepping up and being a dominant hurler. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but we don't have good half backs that can impose themselves and dominate on that line. Players like Cleary, Malone, Seadna, Shanahan are average players, we don't have a Hannon, Mannion, Buckley, Maher, DeBurca, Coleman, etc, etc. that can drive us on from the half back line.

BloodyBill · 17-02-2019 12:36am

Dickie9 wrote: »

constant fouling anytime Clare went 1 up they gave cheap handy frees away

Typical Clare performance against Cork in many ways. A good start lots of play but then leave Cork in it with dumb decisions and absolutely ridiculous fouls. The backs are too close to their men and then foul when they are turned. Malone and Fitzgerald are a shambles. It's very disappointing really. If Cork had half the talent of that Clare team they'd beat everyone by 10 points. Clare just don't have the hurling IQ.
Peter Duggan is a scorer of great frees but he's not a great free taker. The guy misses at least 2 sitters of frees every game. What good is that to anyone? His technique is suspect.

Figerty · 17-02-2019 12:37am

letowski wrote: »

Agreed, the longer Cork stayed in the game, the less confidence I had in us pushing on. I get that same feeling about us being flat. Last year I think the form of Duggan and Conlon emerging as leaders really drove us on along with tigerish workrate without being badly disciplined. There was a hunger there too, I worry last year might have taken alot of that desire out of us. This year it doesn't look like anybody new is stepping up and being a dominant hurler. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but we don't have good half backs that can impose themselves and dominate on that line. Players like Cleary, Malone, Seadna, Shanahan are average players, we don't have a Hannon, Mannion, Buckley, Maher, DeBurca, Coleman, etc, etc. that can drive us on from the half back line.

5 of our backs lost their discipline today. Only Cleary held is head, and with Pat Horgan hitting frees we got suckered into leaving hands in, wrapping around bodies and making easy for a ref who didn't have his best day out.

David Fitzgerald look like he was going to loose the plot.
McInerney looked ragged at times.
Hayes could have got the line for the pull on the corner forwards heel.
Malone, works hard, buy he makes it look hard. Wing backs are meant to be smooth operators.
Jack Browne got caught early and was on the back foot.

Horgan scored 15 frees... say it again 15 frees......

letowski · 17-02-2019 1:09am

Figerty wrote:

5 of our backs lost their discipline today. Only Cleary held is head, and with Pat Horgan hitting frees we got suckered into leaving hands in, wrapping around bodies and making easy for a ref who didn't have his best day out.

38 points (2-32) from frees conceded in the first 3 games is something else. Its a major worry, we have had seasons like this before and have not being able to fix discipline come championship. The longer this issue remains the more worried I'd get.

Duggan on the other hand isnt fixing his concentration issues with the frees. I've an awful feeling he is going to miss a few more gimmes come summertime. That said, as BloodyBill posted, his technique isn't fluid, his body twists too much and his swing is high. Too much margin for error.

windy shepard henderson · 17-02-2019 1:17am

Horgan scored what .. 0-15 from frees tonight .... kevin kelly scored 1-14 from placed balls two wees ago serious worry now at this stage

Our level of tackling is atrocious we are in serious trouble if we cant sort it out before the championship starts

Forwards were excellent bar duggan defense was terrible bar Cleary , we are a dangerous side if we can sort out the discipline , taught ian galvin was excellent along with Kelly ,lots of work to do between now and may though

Good Clare crowd down for a saturday night game taught there was alot more in attendance then what was anounced below , a game i wont be watching it back in a hurry ...move on !

windy shepard henderson · 17-02-2019 5:43am

Figerty wrote: »

letowski wrote: »

Agreed, the longer Cork stayed in the game, the less confidence I had in us pushing on. I get that same feeling about us being flat. Last year I think the form of Duggan and Conlon emerging as leaders really drove us on along with tigerish workrate without being badly disciplined. There was a hunger there too, I worry last year might have taken alot of that desire out of us. This year it doesn't look like anybody new is stepping up and being a dominant hurler. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but we don't have good half backs that can impose themselves and dominate on that line. Players like Cleary, Malone, Seadna, Shanahan are average players, we don't have a Hannon, Mannion, Buckley, Maher, DeBurca, Coleman, etc, etc. that can drive us on from the half back line.

5 of our backs lost their discipline today. Only Cleary held is head, and with Pat Horgan hitting frees we got suckered into leaving hands in, wrapping around bodies and making easy for a ref who didn't have his best day out.

David Fitzgerald look like he was going to loose the plot.
McInerney looked ragged at times.
Hayes could have got the line for the pull on the corner forwards heel.
Malone, works hard, buy he makes it look hard. Wing backs are meant to be smooth operators.
Jack Browne got caught early and was on the back foot.

Horgan scored 15 frees... say it again 15 frees......

I reckon browne shou have been sent off twice , while cathal malone had another average game yet keeping one of the best players in the country completely out of the game

We might be on to somthing with malone afrer all .....

Amprodude · 20-02-2019 8:42pm

Lads lads lads ye should be beating Cork. That was a poor display. You should have Cork beaten out the park. Can't see you in an All Ireland final until you sort out your back line. Cork destroyed you there and that's not good. Back to the drawing board I would reckon?

BloodyBill · 20-02-2019 8:49pm

Amprodude wrote: »

Lads lads lads ye should be beating Cork. That was a poor display. You should have Cork beaten out the park. Can't see you in an All Ireland final until you sort out your back line. Cork destroyed you there and that's not good. Back to the drawing board I would reckon?

Those issues that will be sorted out come Championship time hopefully. The backs need to get back to defending with patience and guile. And there might be a change in personnel but Clare will be there or thereabouts I think. I'd bring back Shane-a Morey fairly rapidly. There's time to try out options now.

Gael85 · 22-02-2019 9:22pm

Sigerson cup final medals for Eimhin Courtney and Conal OHainifin with UCC.

windy shepard henderson · 23-02-2019 12:28am

Gael85 wrote: »

Sigerson cup final medals for Eimhin Courtney and Conal OHainifin with UCC.

Courtney had an excellent campagain he scored in every round bar the final , o hainifin did score in the final , cant believe how this was seen to be a shock result given just how good sean o'shea is playing at the moment ,

windy shepard henderson · 23-02-2019 12:37am

Clare side to face kildare on sunday , one change see's cathal o connor come back into the side , dale masterson and conal o hainifin have been excellent newcomers to the panel this year , we probably wont see eoin Cleary line out this week either as it might be a week too soon , hopfully the yank sean o'donohue gets a few minutes he is a serious tallent

Alan flynn is in the kildare corner this year after doing excellent work with us last year , the win in cork on st patricks night had his name written all over it ,
We are in really good form at the moment this is a winable game but there usally is never any more then a point or two between the sides when they meet , should be a good battle again sunday

https://twitter.com/clarechampion/status/1099060569389318145

windy shepard henderson · 23-02-2019 12:39am

https://twitter.com/clarechampion/status/1099060569389318145

windy shepard henderson · 23-02-2019 1:21am

Amprodude wrote: »

Lads lads lads ye should be beating Cork. That was a poor display. You should have Cork beaten out the park. Can't see you in an All Ireland final until you sort out your back line. Cork destroyed you there and that's not good. Back to the drawing board I would reckon?

February not june lad. Yeah loads to work on but shadow boxing at the moment

Conco14 · 23-02-2019 9:41pm

Sort of off topic lads, but does anybody have a clue when the new Clare jersey's coming out? O'Neill's has said it's coming for a while now, and I don't wanna buy the 16/17 one if there's one about to be released next week or something.

Clareman · 23-02-2019 9:44pm

Conco14 wrote: »

Sort of off topic lads, but does anybody have a clue when the new Clare jersey's coming out? O'Neill's has said it's coming for a while now, and I don't wanna buy the 16/17 one if there's one about to be released next week or something.

New kit is usually released at the end of the league just before the championship

Conco14 · 23-02-2019 9:53pm

Sound, appreciate it.

windy shepard henderson · 24-02-2019 4:59pm

Clare 0-13 1-16 Kildare

Not as onesided as the scoreline would suguest , forwards had an off say in front of goal missing some very kickable scores in both halves , dicision making also very poor at times

After only kicking 1 point from play in.the first half clare were well out of it with the scoreline 1-10 to 0-5
With the aid of a strong wind clare got it.back to 1-12 to 0-12 with 15 minutes left but only managed 1 more Eoin Cleary point for the rest of the game. In that period clare kicked 5 wides and sub garoid o brien had a goal chance saved at point blank with 5 , minutes remaning

Good to see eoin cleary back he and Jamie Malone had excellent games for us today , squeeky bum time now for the banner with 3 tough games to come

SCORES

Eoin Cleary 0-5
Jamie Malone 0-5
David Tubridy 0-1
Cathal o Connor 0-1
Keelan Sexton 0-1

letowski · 24-02-2019 6:37pm

With regards to the hurling, first things first, Malony is after saying that John went over on his ankle so it appears not to be as bad as it looked. Honestly that was basically our year there, we don't do anything without John in the summer, plain and simple. I thought it looked like a cruciate injury. Anyway, I would still rest him now, give someone like Shanagher gametime from being back from injury.

Tight finish to the game in the end, though alot of it was self inflicted. The midfield and half forward line seemed to either tire or just lose concentration but we left far too many Wexford runners from midfield unmarked through for a score. That and woeful use of the ball by the backs. But for the most part of the game we were the better team and we had a gear at the end to see us through.

Some other thoughts:

Rory Hayes has had some good moments in the league but he needs to be careful not to over commit when attacking the ball. All too often he is running out past his marker and letting him in straight through. An experienced corner forward will know just to leverage his body between Hayes and the ball, and just let Hayes' momentum take him out past. He will proably mark Mulcahy in the last round which will be a good test. Overall I think he is worth persisting with, but he needs alot of refinement, he is very raw.

Duggan had a better day today after been off form so far this year. He is still along way off his 2018 best, but I'm not going to worry about his form yet. He was striking the ball well today.

Management was slow to use the bench and used it badly imo. David Fitz was playing a good game, while Pat O'Connor looked off the pace, it was a bad call to take Fitz off 20 minutes before POC. Also we needed to bring subs on around midfield and the half forward line to bring a bit more energy as Wexford was over running us for a finish. Finally they need to be more open to bringing Conlon to center forward (and play Shanagher at 14) when we are losing the grip of the game. He doesn't have to stay there, he can go back inside, but we need his presence. Like in the second half of the Munster final, yes he can dominate at 14, but its no good if we cant get the ball into him.

Finally, the Limerick game is a big game next week. We will probably come last in the table if we lose next week and Tipp win because we have a poor overall score difference. That would mean no hurling from the 3rd of March to the 12th of May which is not ideal in the slightest. Next week is a good test. Probably no Conlon so it will be interesting to see how we get on.

BloodyBill · 24-02-2019 6:44pm

letowski wrote: »

With regards to the hurling, first things first, Malony is after saying that John went over on his ankle so it appears not to be as bad as it looked. Honestly that was basically our year there, we don't do anything without John in the summer, plain and simple. I thought it looked like a cruciate injury. Anyway, I would still rest him now, give someone like Shanagher gametime from being back from injury.

Tight finish to the game in the end, though alot of it was self inflicted. The midfield and half forward line seemed to either tire or just lose concentration but we left far too many Wexford runners from midfield unmarked through for a score. That and woeful use of the ball by the backs. But for the most part of the game we were the better team and we had a gear at the end to see us through.

Some other thoughts:

Rory Hayes has had some good moments in the league but he needs to be careful not to over commit when attacking the ball. All too often he is running out past his marker and letting him in straight through. An experienced corner forward will know just to leverage his body between Hayes and the ball, and just let Hayes' momentum take him out past. He will proably mark Mulcahy in the last round which will be a good test. Overall I think he is worth persisting with, but he needs alot of refinement, he is very raw.

Duggan had a better day today after been off form so far this year. He is still along way off his 2018 best, but I'm not going to worry about his form yet. He was striking the ball well today.

Management was slow to use the bench and used it badly imo. David Fitz was playing a good game, while Pat O'Connor looked off the pace, it was a bad call to take Fitz off 20 minutes before POC. Also we needed to bring subs on around midfield and the half forward line to bring a bit more energy as Wexford was over running us for a finish. Finally they need to be more open to bringing Conlon to center forward (and play Shanagher at 14) when we are losing the grip of the game. He doesn't have to stay there, he can go back inside, but we need his presence. Like in the second half of the Munster final, yes he can dominate at 14, but its no good if we cant get the ball into him.

Finally, the Limerick game is a big game next week. We will probably come last in the table if we lose next week and Tipp win because we have a poor overall score difference. That would mean no hurling from the 3rd of March to the 12th of May which is not ideal in the slightest. Next week is a good test. Probably no Conlon so it will be interesting to see how we get on.

Good summation of the game. Conlon should have been rested anyway. Why do the two managers insist on playing Clare's marquee players week in and week out. They change the fringe players all the time but the likes of Conlon, Colm Galvin and McInerney are played every time. Why not drop Browne in full back and play McCarthy. Give Shanager a start at full forward. The managers have no trust in their squad.

windy shepard henderson · 24-02-2019 7:47pm

BloodyBill wrote: »

letowski wrote: »

With regards to the hurling, first things first, Malony is after saying that John went over on his ankle so it appears not to be as bad as it looked. Honestly that was basically our year there, we don't do anything without John in the summer, plain and simple. I thought it looked like a cruciate injury. Anyway, I would still rest him now, give someone like Shanagher gametime from being back from injury.

Tight finish to the game in the end, though alot of it was self inflicted. The midfield and half forward line seemed to either tire or just lose concentration but we left far too many Wexford runners from midfield unmarked through for a score. That and woeful use of the ball by the backs. But for the most part of the game we were the better team and we had a gear at the end to see us through.

Some other thoughts:

Rory Hayes has had some good moments in the league but he needs to be careful not to over commit when attacking the ball. All too often he is running out past his marker and letting him in straight through. An experienced corner forward will know just to leverage his body between Hayes and the ball, and just let Hayes' momentum take him out past. He will proably mark Mulcahy in the last round which will be a good test. Overall I think he is worth persisting with, but he needs alot of refinement, he is very raw.

Duggan had a better day today after been off form so far this year. He is still along way off his 2018 best, but I'm not going to worry about his form yet. He was striking the ball well today.

Management was slow to use the bench and used it badly imo. David Fitz was playing a good game, while Pat O'Connor looked off the pace, it was a bad call to take Fitz off 20 minutes before POC. Also we needed to bring subs on around midfield and the half forward line to bring a bit more energy as Wexford was over running us for a finish. Finally they need to be more open to bringing Conlon to center forward (and play Shanagher at 14) when we are losing the grip of the game. He doesn't have to stay there, he can go back inside, but we need his presence. Like in the second half of the Munster final, yes he can dominate at 14, but its no good if we cant get the ball into him.

Finally, the Limerick game is a big game next week. We will probably come last in the table if we lose next week and Tipp win because we have a poor overall score difference. That would mean no hurling from the 3rd of March to the 12th of May which is not ideal in the slightest. Next week is a good test. Probably no Conlon so it will be interesting to see how we get on.

Good summation of the game. Conlon should have been rested anyway. Why do the two managers insist on playing Clare's marquee players week in and week out. They change the fringe players all the time but the likes of Conlon, Colm Galvin and McInerney are played every time. Why not drop Browne in full back and play McCarthy. Give Shanager a start at full forward. The managers have no trust in their squad.

One time i would agree with resting players , but with the condensed nature of the early championship players need games under there belt now

Tipperary struggled in the championship last year after hevily rotating in the league i do agree with the fact of resting one or two players for a game or two say the likes of Kelly , galvin and conlon just to see how others react without them and at least offer an option if they pick up injures later in the year

Going watching it back now shortly , my main concern at the moment is our drop off points in games , conceded 1-8 without reply again today , far too much to give away

letowski · 24-02-2019 8:41pm

Davy Mc with a beauty of a line ball Tiger Woods would have been proud of. Bet the lad is good with a pitching wedge, although it goes to show how different the game nowadays is when your full back is taking line balls 70 yards out from goal. Golden had to pass there too.

We scored a well worked goal today as well to be fair too.

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1099710189496926209

keeponhurling · 24-02-2019 9:27pm

On the rotating players point, probably we rotated a bit too much in the first Tipp game. When you lose your first game it doesn’t leave much margin for error.

It’s a hard league, and for example today or v Kilkenny, if we went with an experimental line-up we may well have been beaten.
The Limerick game is also “must win”, unless we want no match from that until championship.

Donald Trumped · 27-02-2019 10:37am

Any posters with any info on how the Clare U-17 hurlers and footballers are getting on, ahead of their respective Munster Championship campaigns, would be most appreciated? In particular how have both teams been faring in challenge matches. Are there any dual players in both squads? As I said anyone with information about those teams, will be most appreciated by this poster indeed. Thanks.

Centrepassage · 27-02-2019 3:08pm

New ruling saying under 17 boys cannot play under 21 is causing a major stir in clare at the moment. Looks like only 5 or 6 clubs will have the numbers to play A grand. And under 21 B very possibly being only 13 a side

Centrepassage · 27-02-2019 3:25pm

New ruling saying under 17 boys cannot play under 21 is causing a major stir in clare at the moment. Looks like only 5 or 6 clubs will have the numbers to play A grand. And under 21 B very possibly being only 13 a side

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