Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

Turtwig · 16-09-2018 9:52pm #1

New thread start!:)

Gavlor · 16-09-2018 10:10pm

Well that was brutal. Apt opening for the next 18 months or so, i’ll Just copy and paste this post after every couple of games.

terrydel · 17-09-2018 10:00am

We've had a really handy fixture list to start off the season and we've managed 6 points from 15. Made West Ham look like top 4 contenders yesterday.
We cannot defend at all, look like conceding 3 at least every game. And have the poorest 2 first choice strikers in the league pretty much in Niasse and Tosun. The former is just utter garbage, the latter is honest but nowhere near good enough.
Schneiderlin should never play again and Gueye hasnt played well in months.
Dismal start to the season and with tougher fixtures to come it'll be a struggle to get out of this poor run of form.
Early season optimism gone very quickly for me.

thebaz · 17-09-2018 10:43am

terrydel wrote: »

We've had a really handy fixture list to start off the season and we've managed 6 points from 15. Made West Ham look like top 4 contenders yesterday.
We cannot defend at all, look like conceding 3 at least every game. And have the poorest 2 first choice strikers in the league pretty much in Niasse and Tosun. The former is just utter garbage, the latter is honest but nowhere near good enough.
Schneiderlin should never play again and Gueye hasnt played well in months.
Dismal start to the season and with tougher fixtures to come it'll be a struggle to get out of this poor run of form.
Early season optimism gone very quickly for me.

Lack of top quality striker is a serious worry , Tosun appers to be a Big Sam folly , Lookman should be a given a chance but I worry , Niasse is nowhere good eneogh - I hope with Coleman and Mina to return they can sort out the back - big ask for Mina , and I worry will Coleman return to pre-injury form.

Johnmb · 17-09-2018 1:24pm

I’m not overly worried because I had no great expectations for this year. But I think the priority needs to be defense. We haven’t had a decent defense since Moyes’ time. Martinez used Moyes’ defense in his first season, and it was great, but since then we can’t defend at all! Even with one of the most unimaginative, defensive-minded managers around we still couldn’t defend.

I have no doubt that Silva will be able to sort the attacking options with another summer transfer window under his belt, but I’m not quite so confident about his abilities with defense, he may be a little too Martinez-like...

POKERKING · 17-09-2018 7:23pm

thebaz wrote: »

Lack of top quality striker is a serious worry , Tosun appers to be a Big Sam folly , Lookman should be a given a chance but I worry , Niasse is nowhere good eneogh - I hope with Coleman and Mina to return they can sort out the back - big ask for Mina , and I worry will Coleman return to pre-injury form.

Richarlison as a central striker makes most sense surely? Walcott was terrible yesterday is he always that bad? I dont watch enough if everton lately to notice.

There is a good team there and i reckon Silva can get best from it but will take time which he needs to be given.

thebaz · 17-09-2018 8:20pm

POKERKING wrote: »

Richarlison as a central striker makes most sense surely? Walcott was terrible yesterday is he always that bad? I dont watch enough if everton lately to notice.

There is a good team there and i reckon Silva can get best from it but will take time which he needs to be given.

I agree it will take time and patience - but we do need an out and out top quality striker - I'd like to see Lookman and Richarlison given a go and Siggy just behind - Richarilson is not really a striker - Tosun looks more and more average the more i see -

Walcott started his Everton career great, but the reason Arsenal let him go is he lacks consistencyhe - seams to lack a sort of hunger to really excel

nice_guy80 · 21-09-2018 3:13pm

thebaz wrote: »

I agree it will take time and patience - but we do need an out and out top quality striker - I'd like to see Lookman and Richarlison given a go and Siggy just behind - Richarilson is not really a striker - Tosun looks more and more average the more i see -

Walcott started his Everton career great, but the reason Arsenal let him go is he lacks consistencyhe - seams to lack a sort of hunger to really excel

He needs to be played out wide

Tosun needs a goal or two for confidence

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 4:06pm

Shocking waste by Richi in the first minute

Always number 1 · 23-09-2018 4:11pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Shocking waste by Richi in the first minute

Calvert Lewin.. I just don't rate him at all..

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 4:55pm

Right so we've had the better first half. Arsenal have not done anything.

So Arsenal to score a soft goal on 47 and Everton to fold.

Seen it all before.

wally79 · 23-09-2018 4:57pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Right so we've had the better first half. Arsenal have not done anything.

So Arsenal to score a soft goal on 47 and Everton to fold.

Seen it all before.

Let’s just hope Richarlison doesn’t get injured this season. We don’t even have 1 good half without him

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 5:16pm

There we are. Game over.

Have we still nothing better than Davies?

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 5:19pm

Well that was a mile offside

But the defending deserved it.

Hard not to be seriously concerned about Everton this year. Another nothing season on the cards.

Always number 1 · 23-09-2018 5:19pm

Could any more of them have been offside?
Hope Moshiri has the cheque book ready for January..

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 5:22pm

Always number 1 wrote: »

Could any more of them have been offside?
Hope Moshiri has the cheque book ready for January..

Have Everton not signed about two first teams at this stage using his cheque book?

Always number 1 · 23-09-2018 5:23pm

Silva does know we have subs right?

Liamalone · 23-09-2018 5:23pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Have Everton not signed about two first teams at this stage using his cheque book already?

Aye, but that was the Lukaku money though. Net spend theory apparently lol

Always number 1 · 23-09-2018 5:27pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Have Everton not signed about two first teams at this stage using his cheque book already?

2 first teams minus a 20+ goals per season (I'd even take 10 goals at this stage!!) striker

lawred2 · 23-09-2018 5:40pm

Even Lukaku would not be able to paper over our clueless defense

Always number 1 · 23-09-2018 5:49pm

How was that a free out? Cech getting too much protection still..

nice_guy80 · 23-09-2018 10:53pm

Hard to win when opponents seem to be gifted goals by our inept defending and inept officiating

thebaz · 29-09-2018 8:03pm

back on track - think this season will be like this - up and down , as we try and build a good footballing team with some direction, fixing the wreckage of the past few seasons - good to see Tosun score, we still need a proper striker at Christmas, Calvert-Lewis is nowhere near good eneogh at this level - another who needs a season in the Championchip, Lookman should be given a run instead.

nice_guy80 · 30-09-2018 8:39am

It's very hard to know what we need.
Football is all about pace now, and I think a few of our players just don't have it

thebaz · 30-09-2018 9:36am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

It's very hard to know what we need.
Football is all about pace now, and I think a few of our players just don't have it

Richarilson and Walcott have loads of pace , a top top striker is the priority . good news Pickford has signed contract , hopefully Mina starts soon and he can sort defense out.

Liamalone · 30-09-2018 12:26pm

Ain't no top top strikers about/gonna come though. Season, yet again, is a write off, transition bollocks. I'm ok with that, better to watch and that's the main thing when thinking back on last season

lawred2 · 30-09-2018 2:11pm

Liamalone wrote: »

Ain't no top top strikers about/gonna come though. Season, yet again, is a write off, transition bollocks. I'm ok with that, better to watch and that's the main thing when thinking back on last season

We were not that great to watch against Huddersfield or West Ham in reality

Yesterday was an important win.

eh i dunno · 30-09-2018 2:29pm

lawred2 wrote: »

We were not that great to watch against Huddersfield or West Ham in reality

Yesterday was an important win.

Need to follow it with a win on Tuesday and at least a point at Leicester next Saturday. That game is the live 3pm game on sky sports.

Johnmb · 02-10-2018 10:01pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Need to follow it with a win on Tuesday and at least a point at Leicester next Saturday. That game is the live 3pm game on sky sports.

Kind of losing faith in Silva at this stage. What was he thinking making 7 changes? There was no need, and given Everton's current run, there's no excuse saying the cup isn't important! Challengers for the title and in Europe might be able to justify making that many changes, not a team that only just got its third win of the season the previous Saturday...

Shanotheslayer · 02-10-2018 10:02pm

Johnmb wrote: »

Kind of losing faith in Silva at this stage. What was he thinking making 7 changes? There was no need, and given Everton's current run, there's no excuse saying the cup isn't important! Challengers for the title and in Europe might be able to justify making that many changes, not a team that only just got its third win of the season the previous Saturday...

Losing faith already. Christ.

Johnmb · 02-10-2018 10:31pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Losing faith already. Christ.

Yeah, results as such aren't a big issue during the rebuild, but team selections are. He finally came across a selection that could both keep a clean sheet and score goals, and for the next match, instead of trying to build on that success, he made 7 changes, none of which were actually necessary. That makes me doubt he knows what he is up to. At this stage of the season he really has no excuse not to know what his best team is. I can forgive his best team not being good enough to win matches, but I can't forgive still making that many changes between two matches (not due to suspensions and/or injuries) at this stage of the season...

Brian? · 02-10-2018 10:54pm

Johnmb wrote: »

Yeah, results as such aren't a big issue during the rebuild, but team selections are. He finally came across a selection that could both keep a clean sheet and score goals, and for the next match, instead of trying to build on that success, he made 7 changes, none of which were actually necessary. That makes me doubt he knows what he is up to. At this stage of the season he really has no excuse not to know what his best team is. I can forgive his best team not being good enough to win matches, but I can't forgive still making that many changes between two matches (not due to suspensions and/or injuries) at this stage of the season...

I completely understand the team changes. He needs to give playing time to Lookman and Bernard. Tosun scores at the weekend so gets another chance. Dowell needs the experience. It was probably agreed that Stekelenburg got the cup games.

It’s the league cup. Forget it and move on. It’s a poxy competition at the end of the day, worth feck all unless you win it and then it’s a place in the Europa league. We’ve more chance of getting that with a league finish than winning he league cup right now.

I still have faith in Silva, I’ve seen glimmers of what he’s trying to do with the team and it’ll click soon IMO.

lawred2 · 02-10-2018 10:57pm

Brian? wrote: »

I completely understand the team changes. He needs to give playing time to Lookman and Bernard. Tosun scores at the weekend so gets another chance. Dowell needs the experience. It was probably agreed that Stekelenburg got the cup games.

It’s the league cup. Forget it and move on. It’s a poxy competition at the end of the day, worth feck all unless you win it and then it’s a place in the Europa league. We’ve more chance of getting that with a league finish than winning he league cup right now.

I still have faith in Silva, I’ve seen glimmers of what he’s trying to do with the team and it’ll click soon IMO.

With a trophy cabinet as bare as ours, nothing is a poxy competition.

wally79 · 02-10-2018 11:17pm

In better news Usmanov is dropping hints

He apparently said “Everton is still far from where it should be. We will also help him. And how. This is my friend’s club.”

“I could become a stakeholder “

Johnmb · 02-10-2018 11:18pm

Brian? wrote: »

I completely understand the team changes. He needs to give playing time to Lookman and Bernard. Tosun scores at the weekend so gets another chance. Dowell needs the experience. It was probably agreed that Stekelenburg got the cup games.

He didn't need to make all those changes in a single match. If we are to have consistency, he needs to limit the changes from match to match.

It’s the league cup. Forget it and move on. It’s a poxy competition at the end of the day, worth feck all unless you win it and then it’s a place in the Europa league. We’ve more chance of getting that with a league finish than winning he league cup right now.

And for a team that was capable of challenging for the League, and in a European competition, that argument might make sense. Everton are not in either position. Any cup is a big deal to a club which is about to set a new internal record for the longest stretch in its history of not winning anything.

I still have faith in Silva, I’ve seen glimmers of what he’s trying to do with the team and it’ll click soon IMO.

It'll never click if he doesn't give the team a chance to settle. 7 unforced changes between two matches isn't going to achieve anything...

thebaz · 03-10-2018 12:23am

wally79 wrote: »

In better news Usmanov is dropping hints

He apparently said “Everton is still far from where it should be. We will also help him. And how. This is my friend’s club.”

“I could become a stakeholder “

please , if he does , we really can progress -

ps after the Big Sam anti-football charade , to loose faith with Silva after a few games is just nuts. we lost on penalties with a weakened team , against a reasonable premiership team , this season will have many false dawns and losses , unless Usmanov comes on board soon.

Liamalone · 03-10-2018 5:21am

Mario Silva has my full backing and confidence, tonight didn't work out, keeper's fault, other than that tonight's team was capable.

nice_guy80 · 04-10-2018 2:05pm

Everton have never won this competition

in 50 years of trying. It'd be nice to try and win something. Even Bobby brown shoes took the cups seriously as he knew it was Everton's best chance of silverware

Johnmb · 05-10-2018 7:53pm

thebaz wrote: »

we lost on penalties with a weakened team.

That's why my confidence in him is shaken, it was a weakened team because he made it a weakened team. If he's not going to bother trying to seriously win matches, and ruining a run after one game without giving the players a chance to further gel, then what chance do we have of progressing? Like I said, the result is not what I have an issue with, it's the fact that the manager intentionally, and unnecessarily, destroyed any momentum at the first opportunity of asking, by putting in a weakened team via seven changes, for no reason that causes me to lose faith...

thebaz · 05-10-2018 8:37pm

Johnmb wrote: »

That's why my confidence in him is shaken, it was a weakened team because he made it a weakened team. If he's not going to bother trying to seriously win matches, and ruining a run after one game without giving the players a chance to further gel, then what chance do we have of progressing? Like I said, the result is not what I have an issue with, it's the fact that the manager intentionally, and unnecessarily, destroyed any momentum at the first opportunity of asking, by putting in a weakened team via seven changes, for no reason that causes me to lose faith...

in fairness , nearly every premiership team plays weakened teams in this competition , until the semis , thats the value of the competition - besides after only a few games , and the backwards steps made last year , you need to give any new manager at least half a season to create a new positive system ; I have no problem him trying out new combos in this competition - as long as we are not relegated this season, and I see proper progress after Christmas - and the new stadium actually being built - I'd be happy.

wally79 · 05-10-2018 10:30pm

Johnmb wrote: »

That's why my confidence in him is shaken, it was a weakened team because he made it a weakened team. If he's not going to bother trying to seriously win matches, and ruining a run after one game without giving the players a chance to further gel, then what chance do we have of progressing? Like I said, the result is not what I have an issue with, it's the fact that the manager intentionally, and unnecessarily, destroyed any momentum at the first opportunity of asking, by putting in a weakened team via seven changes, for no reason that causes me to lose faith...

****e competition that no team would enter given the choice.

Would prefer Everton build than focus on probably the most worthless trophy

Manager played fringe players because he felt same

nice_guy80 · 06-10-2018 6:59pm

Great to get an away win.

Laois_Man · 06-10-2018 8:59pm

Deserved the win today but still plenty of crap defending on show - got away with most of it!

What a turn and shot by Sigurdsson though!

thebaz · 07-10-2018 12:22am

Siggy looks much more at home as a 10 - great goal - theis years signing , at an early stage look much better value than last year Walshs signings - with Mita still to come through - Bernard, Digne and Richarlison look quality - Walcott, Bernard and Richarlison give us a decent attack - still need a quality striker - Caleven lewis is not that , give Lookman another chance - and if that fails , get a top quality stirker for Christmas.

Lumbo · 22-10-2018 10:55am

Another 3 important points yesterday. Everton have some nasty fixtures coming up so more points in the board were important. Gomes was ok for his debut. I think Keane and Zouma have linked well and Mina might not automatically get into that defense. Hard fought win. Pickford penalty save changed the game as Palace ran out of steam after that. Fair play again to Silva and his substitutions, three positive subs that yielded 2 goals and 1 assist.

Brian? · 22-10-2018 11:31am

Lumbo wrote: »

Another 3 important points yesterday. Everton have some nasty fixtures coming up so more points in the board were important. Gomes was ok for his debut. I think Keane and Zouma have linked well and Mina might not automatically get into that defense. Hard fought win. Pickford penalty save changed the game as Palace ran out of steam after that. Fair play again to Silva and his substitutions, three positive subs that yielded 2 goals and 1 assist.

Agree with all that.

I was a little disappointed in Bernard though. His decision making was poor a couple of times. He had an easy chance to play Walcott in Anne over ran the ball instead. I think he’s classy but rusty.

eh i dunno · 22-10-2018 12:19pm

Brian? wrote: »

Agree with all that.

I was a little disappointed in Bernard though. His decision making was poor a couple of times. He had an easy chance to play Walcott in Anne over ran the ball instead. I think he’s classy but rusty.

Yeah thought he was poor and so was Walcott. Think lookman deserves more mins after his impressive cameo yesterday. Maybe tosun back up top and richarlison back to the wing. Squad looks stronger though

lawred2 · 22-10-2018 12:35pm

I thought Gomes looked the business to be honest. Strong runner and good on the ball. Always looked for the positive pass.

There's a shape developing to the squad.

Still think we're a weak up front though.

Brian? · 22-10-2018 2:19pm

lawred2 wrote: »

I thought Gomes looked the business to be honest. Strong runner and good on the ball. Always looked for the positive pass.

There's a shape developing to the squad.

Still think we're a weak up front though.

Gomes looks like everything Schneiderlin was supposed to be.

lawred2 · 22-10-2018 2:34pm

Brian? wrote: »

Gomes looks like everything Schneiderlin was supposed to be.

Was disappointed to read that he's only on loan..

wally79 · 22-10-2018 2:53pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Was disappointed to read that he's only on loan..

I don’t think Barca want him so could probably buy if works out for all involved

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