Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 25/26

lawred2

if you're into that sort of cheap lad mag tabloid look of course

Shanotheslayer

lawred2 wrote: »

if you're into that sort of cheap lad mag tabloid look of course

I think you just made that up.

lawred2

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I think you just made that up.

I'm sure she could scrub up better than that cheap tart look...

Gavlor

lawred2 wrote: »

I'm sure she could scrub up better than that cheap tart look...

Yeah, wouldn’t touch her. State of her....

lawred2

Gavlor wrote: »

Yeah, wouldn’t touch her. State of her....

exactly

lawred2

Any news on James McCarthy?

eh i dunno

lawred2 wrote: »

Any news on James McCarthy?

Thought he was back training a month ago but heard nothing since. Schneiderlan has also disappeared.

lawred2

eh i dunno wrote: »

Thought he was back training a month ago but heard nothing since. Schneiderlan has also disappeared.

fingers crossed

wally79

eh i dunno wrote: »

Thought he was back training a month ago but heard nothing since. Schneiderlan has also disappeared.

Think silva said yesterday that he’s nearly back

thebaz

eh i dunno wrote: »

Thought he was back training a month ago but heard nothing since. Schneiderlan has also disappeared.

Gueye is such a better player than either of these - Schneiderlan could be good, but just seams lazy - McCarthy is injury prone and not up the standard we want right now.

Laois_Man

thebaz wrote: »

Gueye is such a better player than either of these - Schneiderlan could be good, but just seams lazy - McCarthy is injury prone and not up the standard we want right now.

Completely disagree. If McCarthy was at his best, I'd have him above Gueye every time. A lot of people really over rate Gueye - although it only seems to be Evertonians. His passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often!

Lumbo

Laois_Man wrote: »

Completely disagree. If McCarthy was at his best, I'd have him above Gueye every time. A lot of people really over rate Gueye - although it only seems to be Evertonians. His passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often!

Averages 55 passes a game
85% successful passes

Liamalone

Dem baps though

Gavlor

Laois_Man wrote: »

Completely disagree. If McCarthy was at his best, I'd have him above Gueye every time. A lot of people really over rate Gueye - although it only seems to be Evertonians. His passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often!

When was McCarthy at his best?? Gueye is consistently a 7 or 8 out of ten McCarthy, when fit, consistently a 5 or 6.
He hasn’t turned into the player you’d like to think he could have been.

Laois_Man

Lumbo wrote: »

Averages 55 passes a game
85% successful passes

But have you got any stats on the % success when he tries to play it forward?

Gavlor wrote: »

When was McCarthy at his best?? Gueye is consistently a 7 or 8 out of ten McCarthy, when fit, consistently a 5 or 6.
He hasn’t turned into the player you’d like to think he could have been.

He was fantastic in his first season and he was looking like getting back to that again last season when he got that leg break!

Lumbo

Laois_Man wrote: »

But have you got any stats on the % success when he tries to play it forward

If you can find those stats post them up.

But that’s not the point you made. You said his passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often. The stats show that he doesn’t.
Also, I find it strange that you’re suggesting that McCarthy, the king of the sideways pass, would be better at passing forward. I’ve very rarely seen him make a defense splitting pass.

Don’t get me wrong, I like McCarthy, he does a good job as a defensive midfielder and his injuries have been unfortunate for him. But I would have Gueye ahead of him every time.

thebaz

Laois_Man wrote: »

Completely disagree. If McCarthy was at his best, I'd have him above Gueye every time. A lot of people really over rate Gueye - although it only seems to be Evertonians. His passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often!

and I compleltly disagree - he has been our most consistent midfielder the past few years , not saying much, for various reason McCarthy has not been that.

Brian?

Lumbo wrote: »

If you can find those stats post them up.

But that’s not the point you made. You said his passing is dreadful! No point in having a good ball winner who immediately loses it again so often. The stats show that he doesn’t.
Also, I find it strange that you’re suggesting that McCarthy, the king of the sideways pass, would be better at passing forward. I’ve very rarely seen him make a defense splitting pass.

Don’t get me wrong, I like McCarthy, he does a good job as a defensive midfielder and his injuries have been unfortunate for him. But I would have Gueye ahead of him every time.

A fully fit, on form McCarthy would be a step above Gueye any day for me. However, we're never likely to see that again. Martinez's first season was the last time we really saw it, he was phenomenal for Everton.

Brian?

thebaz wrote: »

and I compleltly disagree - he has been our most consistent midfielder the past few years , not saying much, for various reason McCarthy has not been that.

I like Gueye a lot. He's hard working and committed, but he's limited. He's essentially the Senegalese Lee Carsley. The fact that he's been our best midfielder in his time at Everton says more about our other midfielders than it does about him as a player.

Liamalone

I clean forgot about McCarthy. Says it all, totally forgettable talent. Decent player but that's it, no value due to injuries though, get rid.

nice_guy80

Brian? wrote: »

thebaz wrote: »

and I compleltly disagree - he has been our most consistent midfielder the past few years , not saying much, for various reason McCarthy has not been that.

I like Gueye a lot. He's hard working and committed, but he's limited. He's essentially the Senegalese Lee Carsley. The fact that he's been our best midfielder in his time at Everton says more about our other midfielders than it does about him as a player.

Don't see him scoring goals in a derby though

thebaz

regarding Gueye, he has been playing for the most part in a rubbish midfield, given time with the more creative Gomes , think he will flourish . Gueye is not really a controlling midfielder , but does the dirty work needed for one to prosper.
Can't see McCarthy ever rerturning to be a top premier league midfielder at this stage.

Telecaster58

thebaz wrote: »

regarding Gueye, he has been playing for the most part in a rubbish midfield, given time with the more creative Gomes , think he will flourish . Gueye is not really a controlling midfielder , but does the dirty work needed for one to prosper.
Can't see McCarthy ever rerturning to be a top premier league midfielder at this stage.

Some of us were of the view that he never was one.

lawred2

Liamalone wrote: »

I clean forgot about McCarthy. Says it all, totally forgettable talent. Decent player but that's it, no value due to injuries though, get rid.

I saw him pop up on Twitter and thought "what club is he at now I wonder!?"

I then googled

nice_guy80

lawred2 wrote: »

I saw him pop up on Twitter and thought "what club is he at now I wonder!?"

I then googled

Everton seem to stick by injured players, rather than offload them
maybe we're just gullible

lawred2

Walcott starts

I'd like to see him deliver tonight... he gets into the right positions but doesn't seem to happen for him

Need to win tonight - would like a comfortable one as well

Brian?

I know it’s early in the game. But what does Bernard really do? He’s given the ball away every time he’s touched it.

thebaz

lawred2 wrote: »

Walcott starts

I'd like to see him deliver tonight... he gets into the right positions but doesn't seem to happen for him

Need to win tonight - would like a comfortable one as well

really is story of Walcott career, yeah need to give Watford a good hiding

lawred2

How did that go unseen?

Oh well... We've had our share go the other way

lawred2

Coleman

Edit: phew he's not dead