George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

Penn · 27-05-2020 4:08pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Hands handcuffed behind him, face down on the ground. Hes not going to get up out of that, particularily when surrounded by cops.

Even if the cop felt the need to keep him pinned down even with his arms handcuffed behind his back, keeping a knee on his shoulder or arm would have kept him down. Didn't need to put and keep his knee on the guy's neck for several minutes.

But according to some here, because they've had personal experiences with bad people in their own life, the guy was therefore scum and the cops are fine to decide to kill them if they want.

major bill · 27-05-2020 4:11pm

There is no justification for how those Cops handled the situation. as someone said face down and hands handcuffed behind the back you are not getting up from that and I speak from experience.

Its disgusting!!

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 27-05-2020 4:11pm

Penn wrote: »

Even if the cop felt the need to keep him pinned down even with his arms handcuffed behind his back, keeping a knee on his shoulder or arm would have kept him down. Didn't need to put and keep his knee on the guy's neck for several minutes.

But according to some here, because they've had personal experiences with bad people in their own life, the guy was therefore scum and the cops are fine to decide to kill them if they want.

Not only that, didn't watch the video in full and started a sh!t show of a back an forth.

SusieBlue · 27-05-2020 4:14pm

He wasn’t just kneeling on his neck, he was swaying back and forth increasing and decreasing the pressure with his body weight. That’s how you slowly suffocate someone, the officer had to have known what he was doing there, it looked intentional?
Every time the poor man went to take a deep breath he leaned forward again, putting more pressure on his neck so he couldn’t breathe.

It was very interesting to see one of the bystanders was a firewomen and even she was telling them to stop and that he couldn’t breathe and they still wouldn’t listen.
Too proud for their own good.

They slowly tortured him to death and that shouldn’t go unpunished. I’m delighted to hear they’ve all been fired but hopefully charges will be brought against them too.

suicide_circus · 27-05-2020 4:19pm

it might be worth pointing out while righteous indignation is quite reasonably directed at race relations and police brutality in the US, in most of the world outside "the west", there would be no footage, there would be no questions asked and the cops would not be sacked or prosecuted.

ELM327 · 27-05-2020 4:40pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

it might be worth pointing out while righteous indignation is quite reasonably directed at race relations and police brutality in the US, in most of the world outside "the west", there would be no footage, there would be no questions asked and the cops would not be sacked or prosecuted.

Exactly. I wonder how many "undesirables" are persecuted in the middle east or china like this

Dontfadeaway · 27-05-2020 4:41pm

It’s hard to watch. Everyone could see he was struggling and they refused to listen and just check him. Why couldn’t one check out of the 4/5 cops. There is no defending it.

Quotations · 27-05-2020 4:41pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

it might be worth pointing out while righteous indignation is quite reasonably directed at race relations and police brutality in the US, in most of the world outside "the west", there would be no footage, there would be no questions asked and the cops would not be sacked or prosecuted.

Lmao. Good point, well made.....

Killer cop needs to get life without. 3 accomplices need to get 15+ for manslaughter. Civil war is coming back to the US if this stuff is allowed to continue by the authorities.

Being black seems to still be a death sentence in large parts of the US. Shamefully stuff.

ELM327 · 27-05-2020 4:44pm

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

It’s hard to watch. Everyone could see he was struggling and they refused to listen and just check him. Why couldn’t one check out of the 4/5 cops. There is no defending it.

I agree. I couldnt watch the video till the end. Too uncomfortable.

YFlyer · 27-05-2020 5:10pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just seen the full video there now. I'd agree that the Police were way over the top and it did look to me like there was something up there. I can't see any reason why they didn't pick him up and throw him in the Police car straight away? Strikes me as very unusual that they held him down (my presumption was they were waiting for more police to arrive) but the next vehicle to arrive is the Ambulance..?

Seems a bit confusing to me. I doubt the 4 Police officers deliberately set out to kill anyone, but at the same time, there's definitely something unusual about whatever is happening there. What are they (supposed to be) waiting for whilst they have him on the ground?

More police for what?

degsie · 27-05-2020 5:16pm

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

It’s hard to watch. Everyone could see he was struggling and they refused to listen and just check him. Why couldn’t one check out of the 4/5 cops. There is no defending it.

The only checking I could see was the cop with his knee pressing while watching when the victim was trying to catch a breath and him moving his knee to cut his breathing off. Unbelievable stuff.

ELM327 · 27-05-2020 5:23pm

Right so on the third attempt I've managed to watch the video.
I'm struggling to see any justification for the policemans action. I'm normally a person who deplores those screeching in protest, like the alleged first responder woman and the black man with repeated racial slurs towards the asian cop, but I must unfortunately agree with them that the actions were murder and unjustified by any mitigating circumstances. I can see the cops getting some hard time for this.

ELM327 · 27-05-2020 5:27pm

Straight Up Nigga wrote: »

Man the blacks are gonna riot over this...if you're white and live somewhere like Memphis, now's the time to get out.

Do you speak for all "the blacks".

suicide_circus · 27-05-2020 5:28pm

Straight Up Nigga wrote: »

Man the blacks are gonna riot over this...if you're white and live somewhere like Memphis, now's the time to get out.

Straight up No.

America is like 12% black

Quotations · 27-05-2020 5:29pm

Straight Up Nigga wrote: »

Man the blacks are gonna riot over this...if you're white and live somewhere like Memphis, now's the time to get out.

and what would you recommend for the latino's?

suicide_circus · 27-05-2020 5:32pm

Straight Up Nigga wrote: »

Yeah and they mostly live in the big cities.

Think Detroit is like 90% black. It's gonna be like Mogadishu.

Listen my brother, the white man didn't invent slavery, but he did end it.

degsie · 27-05-2020 5:35pm

Don't feed the trolls

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2020 6:38pm

https://twitter.com/IamMikeCannon/status/1265652784097120257

2u2me · 27-05-2020 7:43pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Right so on the third attempt I've managed to watch the video.
I'm struggling to see any justification for the policemans action. I'm normally a person who deplores those screeching in protest, like the alleged first responder woman and the black man with repeated racial slurs towards the asian cop, but I must unfortunately agree with them that the actions were murder and unjustified by any mitigating circumstances. I can see the cops getting some hard time for this.

I always try to ask myself is there anything he could have done to warrant this action from the police? Is there anything that could have happened before the video started that would change my mind.

Perhaps if they just witnessed him commit a terrorist act or something along those lines. That is the only reasonable thought I could come up with but they were investigating a forgery.

I'm not shocked at how many people would use to it prove 'america is racist' but what evidence is there for this apart from white cop and black victim, because there are plenty of black cops and white victims too.

I saw this report on CNN with Don Lemon(Hack) who tries to put the word 'racist' into the families mouth. Fair play to them for saying it like it is and ignoring him. You can see the frustration come out in Lemon, he's so desperately trying to get them to say it.

This is abuse of authority plain and simple, unless anyone else has any evidence.

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pinkyeye · 27-05-2020 9:09pm

2u2me wrote: »

I always try to ask myself is there anything he could have done to warrant this action from the police? Is there anything that could have happened before the video started that would change my mind.

Perhaps if they just witnessed him commit a terrorist act or something along those lines. That is the only reasonable thought I could come up with but they were investigating a forgery.

I'm not shocked at how many people would use to it prove 'america is racist' but what evidence is there for this apart from white cop and black victim, because there are plenty of black cops and white victims too.

I saw this report on CNN with Don Lemon(Hack) who tries to put the word 'racist' into the families mouth. Fair play to them for saying it like it is and ignoring him. You can see the frustration come out in Lemon, he's so desperately trying to get them to say it.

This is abuse of authority plain and simple, unless anyone else has any evidence.

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I don't know what on earth you just watched but that family CLEARLY say it's because he was a black man!!!!!

J. Marston · 27-05-2020 10:18pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/grjqd8/restaurant_security_footage_shows_a_cuffed_george/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=97674b869045416fb898162fc05748e7&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=grjqd8

Guy is distressed but he is not resisting arrest here. What reason is there to put him face down in the gutter with a knee pressed to his neck?

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2020 10:29pm

J. Marston wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/grjqd8/restaurant_security_footage_shows_a_cuffed_george/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=97674b869045416fb898162fc05748e7&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=grjqd8

Guy is distressed but he is not resisting arrest here. What reason is there to put him face down in the gutter with a knee pressed to his neck?

How does it go from that to on the ground with him kneeling on his neck? is there another video or do we pick it up with the parts int he other videos filmed by the people on the path?

Resisting or not, doesnt justify kneeling on his neck for 10 minutes. It doesnt explain what they were waiting for the whole time, why not put him in the car straight away? Even if hed resisted and they ended up on the ground, at that stage he is subdued again, why not pick him up and put him in the car.

harr · 27-05-2020 10:29pm

J. Marston wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/grjqd8/restaurant_security_footage_shows_a_cuffed_george/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=97674b869045416fb898162fc05748e7&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=grjqd8

Guy is distressed but he is not resisting arrest here. What reason is there to put him face down in the gutter with a knee pressed to his neck?

Yeah just came here to post that video... makes it worse he was in handcuffs a Few minutes before they took him to the ground , hardly a major threat at that stage.

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-05-2020 12:11am

harr wrote: »

Yeah just came here to post that video... makes it worse he was in handcuffs a Few minutes before they took him to the ground , hardly a major threat at that stage.

Riot now over this murder by the cop.

Gatling · 28-05-2020 12:18am

harr wrote: »

Yeah just came here to post that video... makes it worse he was in handcuffs a Few minutes before they took him to the ground , hardly a major threat at that stage.

There was another one a few years ago in similar circumstances where cops took a young lad down to the ground who suffered from schizophrenia for next to nothing ,the poor lad could be heard begging for help and even cried out for his dad before passing away with the cops on top of him ,
Single most hardest video I've ever watched it's not as visible as this as it was mostly out of view but the audio is Harrowing

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 12:32am

There's another pic of the killer doing the rounds.. this time he's near front and center of a trump rally.

dd973 · 28-05-2020 1:43am

Saw another case of a black chap acting completely peacefully getting jumped by cops, he was belly down struggling to breathe, an arm on his neck, two other cops pinning his arms and legs down, and guess what one of them was roaring at him over and over?

'Get on the floor!!, Get on the floor!!'

.......?????

28-05-2020 3:43am

Always happens with trigger happy cops in the US for some reason

JP Liz V1 · 28-05-2020 4:11am

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

There's another pic of the killer doing the rounds.. this time he's near front and center of a trump rally.

Has Trump made any comment on this killing yet?

Be right back · 28-05-2020 4:37am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has Trump made any comment on this killing yet?

I don't think so. Trump seems to be more concerned about the elections and social media at the minute!

oceanman · 28-05-2020 6:07am

what a sad broken country...

splinter65 · 28-05-2020 7:46am

The looting and burning of local businesses puts the cause of BLM back 20 years or so.

sweet_trip · 28-05-2020 8:01am

splinter65 wrote: »

The looting and burning of local businesses puts the cause of BLM back 20 years or so.

No it doesn't. :rolleyes:

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 8:33am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has Trump made any comment on this killing yet?

Yes, he said he got the FBI to look into this asap, when in fact they were already looking into it. Think he tweeted like near midnight last night (GMT). Which I found strange, this is massive news in the US.

kowloonkev · 28-05-2020 8:47am

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Yes, he said he got the FBI to look into this asap, when in fact they were already looking into it. Think he tweeted like near midnight last night (GMT). Which I found strange, this is massive news in the US.

How do you know when he gave the order?

kowloonkev · 28-05-2020 8:53am

splinter65 wrote: »

The looting and burning of local businesses puts the cause of BLM back 20 years or so.

I think in a crowd of protestors there will always be a few who attach themselves to a cause to give themselves an excuse to commit crimes. It doesn't mean that the cause the protestors are fighting for is not a valid one and a few random idiots doesn't equate to institutionalized police brutality and violence.

Conall Cernach · 28-05-2020 9:15am

I have a friend who lives in Minneapolis a FB friend of hers is posting info allegedly gleaned from a police scanner. There are hundreds of cops surrounding the house of one of those fired as a large crowd has gathered. Apparently the 3rd Precinct's power is out and the power lines are on fire. The national Guard is on site. Blast balls have been authorised at Calhoun Square and there has been an explosion east of 25 and Lake.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 9:21am

kowloonkev wrote: »

How do you know when he gave the order?

How quickly do you think Donnie found out about this?

I'm near sure rules/regulations happen a lot quicker then what passes the attention of Donnie. Like I said, he passed comment on this massive event near midnight last night GMT time.

ELM327 · 28-05-2020 9:25am

splinter65 wrote: »

The looting and burning of local businesses puts the cause of BLM back 20 years or so.

It distracts from a real cause (the murder of an innocent man) and colors (pardon the pun) the minority involved, from innocent victims to thugs and scumbags

KiKi III · 28-05-2020 9:32am

Nozebleed wrote: »

there no intent to kill the man. in fairness. its accidental..they are trying to restrain the man,heavy handed..but murderous intent? no..

They knelt on his windpipe for five minutes. Manslaughter is the most generous interpretation I could give.

seamus · 28-05-2020 9:32am

splinter65 wrote: »

The looting and burning of local businesses puts the cause of BLM back 20 years or so.

A black man just got murdered while being arrested, and armed forces have been violently suppressing unarmed black protestors. Even though a couple of weeks ago, armed white terrorists stormed government buildings and the armed forces did absolutely nothing about it.

The cause of BLM is already back in the 1960s and not through their own doing.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 9:52am

https://m.startribune.com/first-responders-worked-nearly-an-hour-to-save-floyd-before-he-was-pronounced-dead/570806682/

Dead by the time EMS had arrived, that piece of sh!t still had that knee on his neck when the paramedic looked to take George's pulse, disgusting.

28-05-2020 9:58am

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

https://m.startribune.com/first-responders-worked-nearly-an-hour-to-save-floyd-before-he-was-pronounced-dead/570806682/

Dead by the time EMS had arrived, that piece of sh!t still had that knee on his neck when the paramedic looked to take George's pulse, disgusting.

He has to go to prison for what he did.

It appears to me America isn't anywhere near as civilised as Europe.

Coralcoras · 28-05-2020 10:01am

While making videos of this kind are powerful for inciting change, there is something awful about the indignity of having the world see you slowing lose control of your bladder, utter your last pleading words, sob and intimately lose consciousness for the last time.

Das Reich · 28-05-2020 10:01am

Why he was getting arrested? How many Koreans are in Minneapolis?

KiKi III · 28-05-2020 10:02am

Coralcoras wrote: »

While making videos of this kind are powerful for inciting change, there is something awful about the indignity of having the world see you slowing lose control of your bladder, utter your last pleading words, sob and intimately lose consciousness for the last time.

At least this way he might get justice.

Might.

ohnonotgmail · 28-05-2020 10:02am

Das Reich wrote: »

Why he was getting arrested? How many Koreans are in Minneapolis?

he was arrested for writing a bad check. does that justify kneeling on his neck in your eyes?

Das Reich · 28-05-2020 10:03am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he was arrested for writing a bad check. does that justify kneeling on his neck in your eyes?

No. But was curious why he was being arrested. Was the first time he was doing that?

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 10:04am

Das Reich wrote: »

Why he was getting arrested? How many Koreans are in Minneapolis?

Forgery was the report put in too the police from a store nearby..

Also, uhmm WHAT? What has Koreans got to do with this?

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 28-05-2020 10:06am

Das Reich wrote: »

No. But was curious why he was being arrested. Was the first time he was doing that?

Would it matter a lot and he deserved to die if it was his 1000th time doing it?

George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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