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January 2020 Recruitment.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    LC20 wrote: »
    Anyone else’s patience paper thin? Mine have ran out!!

    I know the feeling, the amount of time between stages is ridiculous. Very poorly planned. A shambles even


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LC20


    DDGS7 wrote: »
    I know the feeling, the amount of time between stages is ridiculous. Very poorly planned. A shambles even

    I’m in total agreement. I’m FT1 and have had all done since March bar Vetting. I’ve chased it up twice and recruitment have been great at getting back but still no answer if it’s cleared or not. They actually requested an update on it before I did. I’m fed up now it’s been 14+ months of jumping through hoops...


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    LC20 wrote: »
    I’m in total agreement. I’m FT1 and have had all done since March bar Vetting. I’ve chased it up twice and recruitment have been great at getting back but still no answer if it’s cleared or not. They actually requested an update on it before I did. I’m fed up now it’s been 14+ months of jumping through hoops...

    Im curious to see what happens when the ML comes out next week (or so they tell us) , does that mean that those who have completed most stages will be slowed down to allow those who have potentially placed higher on the list to catch up and go to GV before them? If not doesn't that just negate the need for the ML at the end of the day?

    It's not fair to anyone who has completed all stages but also not fair on those highly placed on the ML


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LC20


    DDGS7 wrote: »
    Im curious to see what happens when the ML comes out next week (or so they tell us) , does that mean that those who have completed most stages will be slowed down to allow those who have potentially placed higher on the list to catch up and go to GV before them? If not doesn't that just negate the need for the ML at the end of the day?

    It's not fair to anyone who has completed all stages but also not fair on those highly placed on the ML

    I think the ML and the FT groups will eventually merge/ML catch up. Someone I know in FT1 is just awaiting a medical before being appointable but has now been told, just the other day, there is as many as 100 in front of them...which would imply they have slowed the process down as the AC passes from Jan are now being put through the stages and the ML has crept in.
    At this stage in the game I really don’t know how they are working it. It has been a crap show from the word GO.
    Everyone has worked hard and everyone deserves credit where credit is due. Sadly this campaign has lacked common courtesy in bucketfuls !


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    LC20 wrote: »
    I think the ML and the FT groups will eventually merge/ML catch up. Someone I know in FT1 is just awaiting a medical before being appointable but has now been told, just the other day, there is as many as 100 in front of them...which would imply they have slowed the process down as the AC passes from Jan are now being put through the stages and the ML has crept in.
    At this stage in the game I really don’t know how they are working it. It has been a crap show from the word GO.
    Everyone has worked hard and everyone deserves credit where credit is due. Sadly this campaign has lacked common courtesy in bucketfuls !

    Yeah I'd say this is the case, I'm FT3 and awaiting a medical also, then the long wait for vetting. But it would imply that the recruitment team are already in possession of the ML and are potentially working it from that now before issuing medicals etc.
    Makes you wonder aswell, how many, or little medicals and PCAs do they do a week? It seems to be very very few


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭JC12250


    Guys I don’t mean to be rude but some of us have waited 14 months just to see where we are on the list. This will then tell us if we get in this FY. You are in the very lucky position of knowing that you are only a matter of weeks away from being appointable and will get in this FY.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    JC12250 wrote: »
    Guys I don’t mean to be rude but some of us have waited 14 months just to see where we are on the list. This will then tell us if we get in this FY. You are in the very lucky position of knowing that you are only a matter of weeks away from being appointable and will get in this FY.

    No I get this, I'm not just bemoaning the situation of myself and the FT folk, I'm bemoaning the situation of everyone. The fact that they just stopped ACs and just stalled the whole process and left most, especially those not on a FT list completely in the dark isn't right. There was no need to stop the ACs and leave everyone waiting for months on end. NIFRS managed to start their recruitment process after PSNI and very quickly overtake it, it stalled for 3 weeks and quickly resumed whereas PSNI stopped for what 4 months?
    There were surely ways the ACs could have taken place and allowed the whole process to continue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LC20


    JC12250 wrote: »
    Guys I don’t mean to be rude but some of us have waited 14 months just to see where we are on the list. This will then tell us if we get in this FY. You are in the very lucky position of knowing that you are only a matter of weeks away from being appointable and will get in this FY.

    Who says it will be a matter of weeks? It could be a matter of another 14 months the way things have went! My PCA has now run out aswell so I’ll not hold my breath. They held all up for no reason with no correspondence of the same. No one person should have been waiting 14 months for anything. It’s all been carried out appallingly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭mariyapsni


    JC12250 wrote: »
    Guys I don’t mean to be rude but some of us have waited 14 months just to see where we are on the list. This will then tell us if we get in this FY. You are in the very lucky position of knowing that you are only a matter of weeks away from being appointable and will get in this FY.

    Well said JC12250! With all due respect to all FT-ers, but yous are getting in. Plus/minus a few months, at least you know u will be amongst those 500 new recruits, whereas we (the mere not so blessed ones to be in a FT group) have been waiting patiently to even find out if we have any realistic chances for this or even next FY. Not being jealous, but stop doubting yourselves, you are in! The recruiters are doing their best in the conditions of a global pandemic with tons of back-log of work. keep calm :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭JC12250


    LC20 wrote: »
    Who says it will be a matter of weeks? It could be a matter of another 14 months the way things have went! My PCA has now run out aswell so I’ll not hold my breath. They held all up for no reason with no correspondence of the same. No one person should have been waiting 14 months for anything. It’s all been carried out appallingly.

    I’ve said before about communication being poor on behalf of Deloitte but when you put into perspective that we were in the depths of a pandemic, a potential funding crisis as well as the PSNI having external political pressure, 14 months doesn’t seem that bad. I think we all just need to put this into a bit of perspective. There are candidates that are now appointable from this recruitment and have start dates, which isn’t bad when you think of everything I have just listed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    LC20 wrote: »
    Who says it will be a matter of weeks? It could be a matter of another 14 months the way things have went! My PCA has now run out aswell so I’ll not hold my breath. They held all up for no reason with no correspondence of the same. No one person should have been waiting 14 months for anything. It’s all been carried out appallingly.

    That's crazy it's actually run out, how long is it valid for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LC20


    DDGS7 wrote: »
    That's crazy it's actually run out, how long is it valid for?
    I think 6 months - it was completed last year. Though again, playing the guessing game as nothing has been corresponded in relation to it.
    Just saying what I’m sure plenty on here, reading, are thinking!


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    LC20 wrote: »
    I think 6 months - it was completed last year. Though again, playing the guessing game as nothing has been corresponded in relation to it.
    Just saying what I’m sure plenty on here, reading, are thinking!

    Raging, sorry to hear that...hopefully you hear the right news soon, hopefully everyone will next week and there will be a noticeable shift in proceedings with the ML being out there.
    I think communication is definitely the common denominator when it comes to people's gripes


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    LC20 wrote: »
    I think 6 months - it was completed last year. Though again, playing the guessing game as nothing has been corresponded in relation to it.
    Just saying what I’m sure plenty on here, reading, are thinking!

    Your PCA lasts for the life of the campaign - I emailed them about this when intakes were frozen in February.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Mcfluffers


    I agree the whole thing has been a bit of a mess. PCA date received 2 months ago and still waiting on a medical being arranged and it’s not looking likely it’ll be anytime soon considering some FT2 people are still awaiting theirs. Obviously it’s worse for the non fast trackers and I’d rather be in the position I’m currently in but this doesn’t feel very fast tracked to me.

    Non fast trackers have the managed stages resumed or are they waiting on the merit list?


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭walkman2302


    I suspect the remaining stages for FT will be dictated by the impending ML being released. It seems like recruitment haven’t issued any more dates to people and my only guess is that it will be done on merit order. To the non FT, keep at it, you have come this far and it’s only around the corner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 9876mac


    Recruitment told me you get invited for your medical based on the date you passed your pca not in merit order


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭walkman2302


    9876mac wrote: »
    Recruitment told me you get invited for your medical based on the date you passed your pca not in merit order

    Good to know!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 9876mac


    FT2, FT1 retests & FT3 pcas were all done within a couple of weeks of eachother so I would imagine they just have a lot of medicals to get through and with restrictions on how many they can do it could take a while to get everyone slotted in


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Mcfluffers


    9876mac wrote: »
    FT2, FT1 retests & FT3 pcas were all done within a couple of weeks of eachother so I would imagine they just have a lot of medicals to get through and with restrictions on how many they can do it could take a while to get everyone slotted in

    Be interesting to know how many people failed their PCA


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 LC20


    Mcfluffers wrote: »
    I agree the whole thing has been a bit of a mess. PCA date received 2 months ago and still waiting on a medical being arranged and it’s not looking likely it’ll be anytime soon considering some FT2 people are still awaiting theirs. Obviously it’s worse for the non fast trackers and I’d rather be in the position I’m currently in but this doesn’t feel very fast tracked to me.

    Non fast trackers have the managed stages resumed or are they waiting on the merit list?


    Even a bit of correspondence in regards to an update on where we stand would be great! I’m with you on this - it’s all very frustrating and doesn’t seem organised at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Mcfluffers


    LC20 wrote: »
    Even a bit of correspondence in regards to an update on where we stand would be great! I’m with you on this - it’s all very frustrating and doesn’t seem organised at all.

    100%

    Literally no word for over 2 months except for online learning which I’m not even going to class as a stage but more of an attempt to fill the gap between waiting on a medical.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    Mcfluffers wrote: »
    100%

    Literally no word for over 2 months except for online learning which I’m not even going to class as a stage but more of an attempt to fill the gap between waiting on a medical.

    I didn't see the point in the online learning myself other than a gap filler as you say


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hey all, relatively new so not sure if this has been stated. But looks like the the merit list will be passed to PSNI on 18th May.


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭mariyapsni


    UNI12345 wrote: »
    Hey all, relatively new so not sure if this has been stated. But looks like the the merit list will be passed to PSNI on 18th May.

    Hi UNI12345 and welcome. Yes, feedback on ranking on the ML will be emailed out to the candidates on or before the 18th of May. Usually PSNI are pretty good with keeping to their promised dates for results release and so, it could be even a day or a few days before the 18th when we receive the long-waited for ranking. Good luck :)


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Appreciate the reply. This may be a hard question to answer, but what would be the next stage? And how long would it take to do so. I.e. Fitness test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Mcfluffers


    UNI12345 wrote: »
    Appreciate the reply. This may be a hard question to answer, but what would be the next stage? And how long would it take to do so. I.e. Fitness test.

    The next stages are vetting, fitness, online learning and medical/drug test. Not sure how long your PCA will take for non fast trackers as I assume it will go in merit order after the list is released.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks for the reply. I know they will probably take a long time but still exciting none the less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Big_A


    Has anyone who has recently completed medical been waiting longer than usual for results?

    I know average wait time is usually 7-10 days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭AlphaBravoOut


    Big_A wrote: »
    Has anyone who has recently completed medical been waiting longer than usual for results?

    I know average wait time is usually 7-10 days.
    Have you been waiting long on yours? I got my pass yesterday, so that would be under 6 days. Maybe check your junk folder


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 CMAG90


    Also got medical results withing the 6 days... waiting on SMT and thats me appointable.. as alpha says... check the junk folder ... best of luck 👍


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Columbo1234


    Good luck to those waiting on results. For those who have got the call. I know this has been mentioned before but could you tell me how long is it roughly between getting the call and starting training? Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Sky56


    Long time lurker, Hi everyone

    I have seen people from FT are getting calls over the past couple of months has anyone got the July call yet?
    I am FT2 and have completed/passed all stages soo I am guessing that I am now appointable?


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭JC12250


    Obviously the official date is the 18th but anyone quietly thinking it might be tomorrow or is that me being too hopeful?lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 BigBoard123


    I know this is for folk already in the process but do any of you have a guesstimate as to when the PSNI will be recruiting again, England is hurting my brain haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭AlphaBravoOut


    Sky56 wrote: »
    Long time lurker, Hi everyone

    I have seen people from FT are getting calls over the past couple of months has anyone got the July call yet?
    I am FT2 and have completed/passed all stages soo I am guessing that I am now appointable?
    Hi Sky56..welcome and congrat’s on becoming appointable. Also FT2, just waiting on my SMT result, so might see you in GV soon! Not sure if July calls have gone out yet. Here’s hoping it’ll be a summer start though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    I know this is for folk already in the process but do any of you have a guesstimate as to when the PSNI will be recruiting again, England is hurting my brain haha

    I believe, either late last year or early this year, they had said they anticipated another recruitment campaign commencing in the autumn - however that was before the issue with the budget had really come to the fore. Personally, I'm doubtful there will be another campaign anytime soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 JRR2021


    JC12250 wrote: »
    Obviously the official date is the 18th but anyone quietly thinking it might be tomorrow or is that me being too hopeful?lol
    I’ve been obsessively refreshing my emails all week with my fingers crossed! Here’s hoping it’s tomorrow ��


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hey guys, are yous referring to information for non fast trackers here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Sky56


    Hi Sky56..welcome and congrat’s on becoming appointable. Also FT2, just waiting on my SMT result, so might see you in GV soon! Not sure if July calls have gone out yet. Here’s hoping it’ll be a summer start though.
    Thanks wasn't sure about the whole appointable thing because they never say directly also check congrats on FT2, this my first time getting this far, I always seemed to stumble either at the IST or AC. So for the people who maybe didn't get the AC I have applied 7 times and 8th time is a charm soo keep the head up and keep applying.

    Hopefully see you soon enough it's been a long process for everyone FT and non FT. My SMT results was back within 12 days but there was bank holidays and weekends in there aswell so you might get them alot quicker.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭JC12250


    Looks like they’re holding out until Tuesday :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 9876mac


    Does anybody know if next week we will be getting both our AC feedback and our merit number, or just our merit number?


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    JC12250 wrote: »
    Looks like they’re holding out until Tuesday :(

    It was silly for us to have hope given the display thus far


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 AWD188


    9876mac wrote: »
    Does anybody know if next week we will be getting both our AC feedback and our merit number, or just our merit number?

    We will get both thankfully!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 9876mac


    AWD188 wrote: »
    We will get both thankfully!

    Thanks I wasn't sure as it only mentions merit list!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Does that mean we our vetting forms will be sent out etc soon. Sorry about the questions, first time applying so not too sure on the entire process


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    UNI12345 wrote: »
    Does that mean we our vetting forms will be sent out etc soon. Sorry about the questions, first time applying so not too sure on the entire process

    If you've been told by Deloitte that you have passed, the next thing for you will be receiving your vetting forms, the speed with which you get them will depend on where you place on the merit list with those higher up likely to get them sooner. My understanding is that, at this point, all FT candidates have already received theirs.

    This information is all readily available in the Guidance for Applicants document on the joinpsni.co.uk site, and it has detailed information on what you can expect during the PSNI managed stages. I suggest you read it in its entirety if you haven't already.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks for the reply. I have passed the assessment centre however I was not in any fast track groups


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    UNI12345 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply. I have passed the assessment centre however I was not in any fast track groups

    Then the next step for you will be receipt of the vetting papers once the ML is released, depending on your position on it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭mariyapsni


    UNI12345 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply. I have passed the assessment centre however I was not in any fast track groups

    Hi UNI12345, here is the link to the guidance document that Mr Chew referred to. I hope you find this helpful. Good luck with the ML results, in the same boat as u. Waiting with anticipation :P

    https://www.joinpsni.co.uk/uploads/1506032096-guidance-for-applicants.pdf


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