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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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    #9512
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Base price wrote: »
    The stocking rate for dairy cows (2 to the hectare) is to be reduced to 1.91 or increased from 85kgs to 89kgs per cow. It is believed that the new rates will come into effect next year.
    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/minister-confirms-increase-of-dairy-cow-excretion-figure-574208

    Is this significant enough to cause issues for dairy farms ??


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    #9513
    naughto
    Registered Users Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭naughto


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Liking Yellowstone shown on Rte2
    Anyone know where I could get season 1

    Your not looking in the right places no need to buy it it's all on line.i cant link where you can download it from or the ban hammer will be out


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    #9514
    naughto
    Registered Users Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭naughto


    I cant reply to your PM hard knock its saying you do not want PMS or have not it active


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    #9515
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    _Brian wrote: »
    Is this significant enough to cause issues for dairy farms ??

    It'll pull more farms in to the derogation net. Max sr in derogation is 250kg, so just above 2.9/ha There are not too many at the max dero level over the whole farm bar those buying in a lot of feed possibly.


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    #9516
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Does anyone here have an optical brix meter and do you use it to sample grass?

    If so are you finding the higher readings bringing about higher weight gains in cattle or improved milk production or reduced grass intake?

    I've finally bit the bullet and ordered one.


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    #9517
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Savage agri minister there

    That's exactly what I was thinking. He may as well have said, "There yer options lads - so suck it up"

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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    #9518
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    That's exactly what I was thinking. He may as well have said, "There yer options lads - so suck it up"

    Looking more like a puppet minister


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    #9519
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    _Brian wrote: »
    American presidential debate was as expected last night. Bickering between two old men.
    Both sides will claim the cane out on top but neither really did.

    Probably ageist of me to say maybe they’re both too old to be running for a four year term in such a high profile job.

    Could see Trump had a deliberate process to constantly interrupt Biden to try and break his concentration. I’d say in some ways it worked.

    Think the presenter needs a button to mute speakers and actually allow the other get a point across.

    Mute Trump - some chance.

    My granny had a saying for someone like trump - "up or down, whatever way you jostle with a chimney sweep you will be blackened"


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    #9520
    [Deleted User]
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    After 4 years of Trump, if they vote him back in there's nothing to be said for Americans.

    On that, I don't think they will.


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    #9521
    Odelay
    Registered Users Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Odelay


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    After 4 years of Trump, if they vote him back in there's nothing to be said for Americans.

    On that, I don't think they will.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they did vote him back in. They are that stupid and stubborn.


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    #9522
    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Base price wrote: »
    The stocking rate for dairy cows (2 to the hectare) is to be reduced to 1.91 or increased from 85kgs to 89kgs per cow. It is believed that the new rates will come into effect next year.
    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/minister-confirms-increase-of-dairy-cow-excretion-figure-574208

    On a dairy farm that fattens dry dairy cows ,will the new rate apply to the dry cows as well .
    A beef farm that fattens dairy cows ,will the new nitrates apply to them as well


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    #9523
    Gillespy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Doting old man Biden didn't keel over on the stage last night so that's enough for them to declare themselves the winners. Turned on CNN this morning to see what the headbangers on there had to say and I must have heard white supremacist groups ten times in the few minutes I saw. Have they been rioting for months and even taking over parts of a city? Messed up the whole thing. By any metric that matters, Trump has done a good job. Global pandemic has undone the gains made in the ecomony, peace deals that should have been bigger news. We were promised him starting wars, got the opposite. Russia was a lie from the start. Bitter gall all they have is his tax and calling him a racist.


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    #9524
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Gillespy wrote: »
    Doting old man Biden didn't keel over on the stage last night so that's enough for them to declare themselves the winners. Turned on CNN this morning to see what the headbangers on there had to say and I must have heard white supremacist groups ten times in the few minutes I saw. Have they been rioting for months and even taking over parts of a city? Messed up the whole thing. By any metric that matters, Trump has done a good job. Global pandemic has undone the gains made in the ecomony, peace deals that should have been bigger news. We were promised him starting wars, got the opposite. Russia was a lie from the start. Bitter gall all they have is his tax and calling him a racist.

    Trump is more popular in america that people here realise


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    #9525
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Trump is more popular in america that people here realise

    Exactly.
    Even in the actual counted votes He only lost the election By 3 million votes. That’s a tiny amount across the whole country.

    I think we will see him do either another term or dispute the results for years as he serves on as president anyway. Either way he’s not leaving office.


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    #9526
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,144 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    _Brian wrote: »
    Exactly.
    Even in the actual counted votes He only lost the election By 3 million votes. That’s a tiny amount across the whole country.

    I think we will see him do either another term or dispute the results for years as he serves on as president anyway. Either way he’s not leaving office.

    What age are trump and Biden?


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    #9527
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What age are trump and Biden?

    Late 70’s the pair. It was like a retirement home standoff over jello 🙄


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    #9528
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,322 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Odelay wrote: »
    I wouldn’t be surprised if they did vote him back in. They are that stupid and stubborn.

    Lots of Americans, especially the bottom half of society have had it better the last few years than in decades.

    There are a lot of people in the modern Democratic party that are far more radical and intolerant than Justin Boyd Barrett and Americans have a right to be fearful.


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    #9529
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Danzy wrote: »
    Lots of Americans, especially the bottom half of society have had it better the last few years than in decades.

    There are a lot of people in the modern Democratic party that are far more radical and intolerant than Justin Boyd Barrett and Americans have a right to be fearful.

    The American and indeed U.K. system has essentially corrupted representation of votes down to two parties forever. This has no system of checks and balance and so large swaths of policy is ignored.
    It maddens ne when I see people giving out about the PR system but at least it allowed other voices be heard and keep pressure on the mainstream parties.


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    #9530
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I thought this was very funny, you'll need sound for the full effect.
    https://twitter.com/ciaolivia/status/1311151062267473921?s=19


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    #9531
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    They should have stuck with the teacher's grading -


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    #9532
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Base price wrote:
    The stocking rate for dairy cows (2 to the hectare) is to be reduced to 1.91 or increased from 85kgs to 89kgs per cow. It is believed that the new rates will come into effect next year.
    https://www.farmersjou...retion-figure-574208

    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    "Minister McConalogue said farmers could comply with limits by reducing stock numbers, exporting slurry or renting extra land."

    That or you could cut a leg or two off to get down to a 1.91 stocking rate

    Just saying ;)


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    #9533
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Danzy wrote: »
    Lots of Americans, especially the bottom half of society have had it better the last few years than in decades.

    There are a lot of people in the modern Democratic party that are far more radical and intolerant than Justin Boyd Barrett and Americans have a right to be fearful.

    Obama was just about to get tough before his term ended, on China when the perceived opening up of the country to trade didn't result in economic reforms.

    https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/27828/how-a-rising-china-has-remade-global-politics

    The next U.S. president faces a military threat from China greater than any other proceeding president to now.
    If footage of some persecution or whatnot in China emerges. A Trump administration might not act militarily. But a Biden administration might feel compelled to.


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    #9534
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,162 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    cute geoge wrote: »
    On a dairy farm that fattens dry dairy cows ,will the new rate apply to the dry cows as well .
    A beef farm that fattens dairy cows ,will the new nitrates apply to them as well
    I assume that dry dairy bred cows for fattening are classified the same as suckler cows, feeding suckler cows or feeding stock over 2yo at 65kgs per year. Maybe someone will come along and confirm it.


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    #9535
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,162 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    They should have stuck with the teacher's grading -
    It's a real mess at this stage.


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    #9536
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,144 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It's not like they didnt have months to sort it out.


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    #9537
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    gozunda wrote: »
    That or you could cut a leg or two off to get down to a 1.91 stocking rate

    Just saying ;)

    That's a very Italian solution, Gozunda!

    When the Milk super levy was introduced, Italian dairy men just ignored it for a few years.
    Then the EU tried to enforce it.
    That didn't really work either, so the EU introduced a slaughter scheme for dairy cows, withcompensation for each cow sent to the factory from the dairy herd.
    Payment was issued for each cow culled, and the proof of culling was the number of ears with the tags attached.
    But a strange thing happened, despite tens of thousands of cows culled, milk delivery to the dairys was rising.

    Extensive investigations revealed tens of thousands of one-eared cows milking away on Italian farms...


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    #9538
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    That's a very Italian solution, Gozunda!

    When the Milk super levy was introduced, Italian dairy men just ignored it for a few years.
    Then the EU tried to enforce it.
    That didn't really work either, so the EU introduced a slaughter scheme for dairy cows, withcompensation for each cow sent to the factory from the dairy herd.
    Payment was issued for each cow culled, and the proof of culling was the number of ears with the tags attached.
    But a strange thing happened, despite tens of thousands of cows culled, milk delivery to the dairys was rising.

    Extensive investigations revealed tens of thousands of one-eared cows milking away on Italian farms...

    There is a part of me that smiles and sort of admires their chutspaz.


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    #9539
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,322 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Water John wrote: »
    There is a part of me that smiles and sort of admires their chutspaz.

    There was something similar with olive trees, they put up fake ones in acre after acre to claim subsidies.


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    #9540
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Danzy wrote: »
    There was something similar with olive trees, they put up fake ones in acre after acre to claim subsidies.

    A lot of the Extra Virgin Olive oil hasn't been a virgin for a long time.


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    #9541
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,162 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Danzy wrote: »
    There was something similar with olive trees, they put up fake ones in acre after acre to claim subsidies.
    I remember reading about that.


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