General Rugby Discussion II

irishbucsfan · 13-11-2017 10:33pm

Davies has been one of the best backs in the world the past 2 years. I saw Beauden Barrett said he thought he was the best player he'd played against.

Burkie1203 · 13-11-2017 11:40pm

Sam Warburton is considering taking a year long sabbatical (talks of retiring at 30/31). Its on rugbylad twitter but there is quotes from sportsmail attributed to Warburton

FACECUTTR · 14-11-2017 12:03am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Sam Warburton is considering taking a year long sabbatical (talks of retiring at 30/31). Its on rugbylad twitter but there is quotes from sportsmail attributed to Warburton

I wouldn't believe a word from rugbylad but the guy needs to do something. Only plays a handful of games each season due to so many injuries.

Burkie1203 · 14-11-2017 12:06am

FACECUTTR wrote: »

I wouldn't believe a word from rugbylad but the guy needs to do something. Only plays a handful of games each season due to so many injuries.

There is quotes attributed to Warburton which are lifted from the daily mail

ScrubsfanChris · 14-11-2017 12:13am

Jamari Squeaking Polygamy wrote: »

If you had Munster going up against the Barbarians I'm sure the attendance would have been a bit better, even if they only had a skeleton squad.

Munster v Maori all blacks last year was a sell out in a similar situation without the internationals.

Burkie1203 · 14-11-2017 10:03am

Thats a massive blow to wales and scarlets.

https://twitter.com/WelshRugbyUnion/status/930359690416050176

14-11-2017 10:09am

Ah that's a massive shame. He's a class act.

thomond2006 · 14-11-2017 10:28am

6 months means he could be back for Scarlets' run-in. It would be a pity for the Pro14 if he's not involved by the playoffs.

thomond2006 · 15-11-2017 11:34am

Bulls vs Stormers pre-season game to be played in LA in February 2018 alongside a USA vs Argentina "XV" game.

irishbucsfan · 16-11-2017 1:45pm

Tom Croft has retired, neck injury

sydthebeat · 16-11-2017 2:01pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Tom Croft has retired, neck injury

great player... how he came back from that injury ill never fathom.

FACECUTTR · 16-11-2017 3:20pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Tom Croft has retired, neck injury

Fantastic player. Best of luck to him.

Didactic Ninja · 17-11-2017 12:48pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Owen Farrell, Maro Itoje, Israel Folau

World Rugby player of the year: It's Folau vs Farrell for me.

Ioane should cakewalk the promising new player award.

Sam Cane for me. Very surprised he isnt there.he smashed everything that moved this year.

Started with Henshaw and continued on in the same vein. He’s a terminator.

17-11-2017 1:00pm

Didactic Ninja wrote: »

Sam Cane smashed everything that moved this year.

Started with Henshaw and continued on in the same vein.

Stay classy...

sydthebeat · 17-11-2017 1:02pm

a very welsh looking centre partnership for samoa this weekend....

Lee-lo and Fonotia

molloyjh · 17-11-2017 1:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Stay classy...

As a point of fact, Sam Cane was not smashing Robbie Henshaw to start with. He was desperately hanging on to Henshaw as the Irishman scored the try that put NZ out of sight in Chicago before he ever illegally targeted the great Irish hero. What our esteemed poster is referring to was a sad and desperate attempt at revenge having been so badly humiliated 2 weeks previously by the very same Irish legend in a historic and completely legal encounter.

P.S. Sincere apologies to the decent Kiwis here. You know I don't really mean it..... :cool:

swiwi_ · 17-11-2017 2:59pm

Klunk_NZ, nehe nilner skudder, didactic ninja

The NZ version of bigbok and just as painful.

Prefer simply to ignore tbh molloy.

Yeah_Right · 17-11-2017 3:05pm

I miss Big Bok. I like reading the crazy and angry. That includes the nutters from my homeland. It makes me feel sane and calm.

Don Kiddick · 17-11-2017 3:47pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I miss Big Bok. I like reading the crazy and angry. That includes the nutters from my homeland. It makes me feel sane and calm.

You've always got swiwi!

swiwi_ · 17-11-2017 3:52pm

Don Kiddick wrote: »

You've always got swiwi!

He’s Swiss.

Yeah_Right · 17-11-2017 4:10pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

He’s Swiss.

And needs to work on his crazy and irrational anger

molloyjh · 17-11-2017 4:16pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

And needs to work on his crazy and irrational anger

Does the fact that he's Swiss not automatically prevent that?

swiwi_ · 17-11-2017 5:20pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Does the fact that he's Swiss not automatically prevent that?

It’s allowed at 17.13 for 2 minutes. Not too loud or irrational mind.

sydthebeat · 17-11-2017 10:21pm

'Mon Gloucester....!!

irishbucsfan · 17-11-2017 10:23pm

Ross Moriarty has turned down Scarlets for Dragons supposedly.

Supposedly Buernard is very impressive.

Zzippy · 18-11-2017 1:19am

NZ apparently furious as Hurricanes captain signs for Wasps with intention of playing for England...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/11/17/blacks-fury-brad-shields-turns-call-up-defects-england/

Wonder how Wasps can afford to pay their wage bill...

Wexfordboy89 · 18-11-2017 1:46am

Zzippy wrote: »

NZ apparently furious as Hurricanes captain signs for Wasps with intention of playing for England...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/11/17/blacks-fury-brad-shields-turns-call-up-defects-england/

Wonder how Wasps can afford to pay their wage bill...

Should explain where they get there money from

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/rugby/champions-cup/the-irish-millionaire-at-the-heart-of-wasps-revival-30933178.html

Former Former · 18-11-2017 3:26am

Zzippy wrote: »

NZ apparently furious as Hurricanes captain signs for Wasps with intention of playing for England...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/11/17/blacks-fury-brad-shields-turns-call-up-defects-england/

Wonder how Wasps can afford to pay their wage bill...

Ah the All Blacks have no interest in him. He's 26, they could have capped him at any time, but now he's going to Wasps and has English parents... suddenly he should answer the call of the silver fern?

Bazzo · 18-11-2017 8:20am

Former Former wrote: »

Ah the All Blacks have no interest in him. He's 26, they could have capped him at any time, but now he's going to Wasps and has English parents... suddenly he should answer the call of the silver fern?

It's amazing that he hasn't been capped to be honest, he's definitely good enough.

Yeah_Right · 18-11-2017 10:58am

I thought he had played a couple of tests. He's been the squad a few times. Surprised he was never capped. He's a loss to NZ rugby.

swiwi_ · 18-11-2017 12:56pm

The general feeling is good player but tits for hands. I don’t blame him turning down a token cap when he has the riches of wasps and possibly England in front of him.

prawnsambo · 18-11-2017 1:01pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

The general feeling is good player but tits for hands. I don’t blame him turning down a token cap when he has the riches of wasps and possibly England in front of him.

My mind just boggled. :eek:

Bazzo · 18-11-2017 3:19pm

Worcester doing a job on Saints

pickarooney · 18-11-2017 5:35pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Worcester doing a job on Saints

Why are they playing during international week?

PTH2009 · 21-11-2017 8:39pm

anyone watch the new lions fly on the wall doc ??? I'm waiting for my Blu Ray version too arrive

The new Rugby 18 game has been slated by the critics. offical licences for all 6 nations federations expect Ireland ??

thomond2006 · 21-11-2017 8:57pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

The new Rugby 18 game has been slated by the critics. offical licences for all 6 nations federations expect Ireland ??

Don't buy it. Don't give those cowboys a penny.

21-11-2017 11:59pm

Will this weekends game be RTE's last full test coverage?

Burkie1203 · 22-11-2017 12:05am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Will this weekends game be RTE's last full test coverage?

Think they have next years AIs too?

22-11-2017 6:09pm

BBC suggesting Finn Russell will earn £700,000 per season in France. Absolutely mental.

Bazzo · 22-11-2017 6:52pm

Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere but ROG to Crusaders has been confirmed.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2017/1122/921963-ronan/

22-11-2017 7:01pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere but ROG to Crusaders has been confirmed.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2017/1122/921963-ronan/

Might be worth it's own thread...

Burkie1203 · 22-11-2017 7:32pm

Townsend fears for Scotland team if players keep leaving. SRU in a weak position. They cant hope to compete financially and its unworkable to have a similar approach to IRFU either.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/42083604

errlloyd · 22-11-2017 9:42pm

I don't quite understand why Scotland can't afford to keep their players. They only have two clubs, and most of their players wouldn't be as sought after as ours so I reckon the average wage of their international 23 is less than ours too.

Given the provinces are funded by the union, and the union generates revenue through ticket sales, TV rights and a few sponsorship deals surely Scotland are in a similar position to us. They have a big stadium, they own, and they sell out regularly. (is the average ticket cheaper)? They're in all the same leagues as us, so get the same revenue share (we get slightly more from Europe per club I guess). Do we do much better with sponsorship than they do?

Wexfordboy89 · 22-11-2017 11:16pm

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/11138972/george-north-to-leave-northampton-and-return-to-wales

George north on his way back to a welsh club good news for the league to have a big name coming bck

CatFromHue · 22-11-2017 11:32pm

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't quite understand why Scotland can't afford to keep their players. They only have two clubs, and most of their players wouldn't be as sought after as ours so I reckon the average wage of their international 23 is less than ours too.

Given the provinces are funded by the union, and the union generates revenue through ticket sales, TV rights and a few sponsorship deals surely Scotland are in a similar position to us. They have a big stadium, they own, and they sell out regularly. (is the average ticket cheaper)? They're in all the same leagues as us, so get the same revenue share (we get slightly more from Europe per club I guess). Do we do much better with sponsorship than they do?

The attendances for Edin and Glas were genuinely ****e (between 2 and 3K) up until recently, that's got to be a factor.

They do own Murrayfield but I thought, like Wales, they had a big debt on their books for a long time after they built it. In 2005 I think they still owed 20mil on it.

The Lost Sheep · 22-11-2017 11:39pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

The attendances for Edin and Glas were genuinely ****e (between 2 and 3K) up until recently, that's got to be a factor.

They do own Murrayfield but I thought, like Wales, they had a big debt on their books for a long time after they built it. In 2005 I think they still owed 20mil on it.

The Scottish Union still owe 5million or so on Murrayfield and attendances has to be a factor. Glasgow attendances are much better than what they were but its still only about an average of 7000 or so a game.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 23-11-2017 12:06am

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't quite understand why Scotland can't afford to keep their players. They only have two clubs, and most of their players wouldn't be as sought after as ours so I reckon the average wage of their international 23 is less than ours too.

Given the provinces are funded by the union, and the union generates revenue through ticket sales, TV rights and a few sponsorship deals surely Scotland are in a similar position to us. They have a big stadium, they own, and they sell out regularly. (is the average ticket cheaper)? They're in all the same leagues as us, so get the same revenue share (we get slightly more from Europe per club I guess). Do we do much better with sponsorship than they do?

Do they try like we do?

They have only 2 teams so they need players outside Scotland to provide depth for the international team.

That said the Irish provinces get much better Attendance. More people would attend Leinster Munster than would attend all of Edinburgh or Glasgow home leage games in a season. Probably similar ticket prices too.

swiwi_ · 23-11-2017 6:37am

Jazlyn Victorious Vessel wrote: »

BBC suggesting Finn Russell will earn £700,000 per season in France. Absolutely mental.

One of the problems for the Irish Pro 14 teams (and NZ super rugby teams have the same problem, especially with their SA counterparts) is that it becomes less appealing if the opposition becomes too weak: losing Russell, and I see in the same article that Johnny Gray has also been targeted, weakens Glasgow quite a bit. On the other hand, a chance for a new player to put his hand up, I suppose.

connemara man · 23-11-2017 9:41am

https://twitter.com/RugbyramaFR/status/933325849285283841

Mourad saying that Toulon will not play on Sundays anymore, will forfeit any games in the future.

pickarooney · 23-11-2017 9:48am

A ploy to sign Euan Murray from Pau, no doubt.

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