General Rugby Discussion II

c.p.w.g.w · 07-12-2018 12:12am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

UCI are banning tramadol as of next year I believe, it's a bit mad how it slipped under their radar and WADA refused to add it to their list really.

Wrong thread?

The Lost Sheep · 07-12-2018 12:14am

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Wrong thread?

read the last few posts. All connected to O Driscoll radio discussion.

c.p.w.g.w · 07-12-2018 12:20am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

read the last few posts. All connected to O Driscoll radio discussion.

Missed a while page of posts, my apologies

ixus · 07-12-2018 12:47am

Used to take difene with a bad knee before games. Played fine during match but would have a severe limp and be in pain 2 days later.

Effects wore off at tail end of a game once. Pure agony and could barely walk having only been going at what felt like top speed.

Stopped taking the stuff after that and got myself sorted. Only doing long term damage.

Burkie1203 · 07-12-2018 7:37am

https://twitter.com/JackoRugby/status/1070838055987265536?s=19

troyzer · 07-12-2018 8:25am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JackoRugby/status/1070838055987265536?s=19

Well at least we can say it's no longer just an English thing to stupidly reject sponsorship money because you don't think it's enough.

stephen_n · 07-12-2018 11:20am

RTrunning a poll on twitter asking amateur players if they have used anti-inflamatories to play games. 68% of respondents have.

mfceiling · 07-12-2018 11:26am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tummy was grand, didn't pitch wood for almost a week tho.

Never saw you as a golfer Venjur.

07-12-2018 2:17pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'm surprised we haven't heard from him already about this.

Kimmage had a piece on independent.ie about 2 weeks ago related the use of these in Rugby. Apologies if posted already, I didn't spot it in the last few pages.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/paul-kimmage-rugby-needs-to-tackle-games-dirtiest-secret-37562348.html

Burkie1203 · 07-12-2018 2:19pm

troyzer wrote: »

Well at least we can say it's no longer just an English thing to stupidly reject sponsorship money because you don't think it's enough.

The Welsh are not whinging about an Irish company sponsoring the 6n.

Yeah_Right · 07-12-2018 5:33pm

I remember getting cortisone injections to get through matches sometimes when I was a teenager and in my 20s. Not just for amateur rugby but also at a fairly high level in a couple of different sports.

stephen_n · 07-12-2018 6:14pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I remember getting cortisone injections to get through matches sometimes when I was a teenager and in my 20s. Not just for amateur rugby but also at a fairly high level in a couple of different sports.

Bloody cheating Kiwis hey!

08-12-2018 12:25am

Peter Stringer for Dancing With the Stars, he's on the late late now

BonnieSituation · 08-12-2018 7:43pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JackoRugby/status/1070838055987265536?s=19

Wales and Scotland are great really.

New RFU chief exec will certainly give them a run for their money in the gormless stakes.

razorblunt · 08-12-2018 8:44pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Peter Stringer for Dancing With the Stars, he's on the late late now

I hope there's not throws in it, the poor girl will be flung across Donnybrook at 100 miles an hour.

Buer · 08-12-2018 8:47pm

razorblunt wrote: »

I hope there's not throws in it, the poor girl will be flung across Donnybrook at 100 miles an hour.

That would be assuming Stringer leads.

Burkie1203 · 11-12-2018 2:22pm

https://twitter.com/espnscrum/status/1072480656469446656?s=19

irishbucsfan · 11-12-2018 2:29pm

He’ll still be there as Director of Rugby...

Burkie1203 · 12-12-2018 10:37pm

https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1072929076787068929?s=19

sydthebeat · 12-12-2018 11:03pm

Eod100 · 12-12-2018 11:33pm

Pau is an interesting one. Currently 11th in Top 14. Granted he will be 33 after WC but must be a few bob involved all the same.

Kevski · 13-12-2018 1:11am

Eod100 wrote: »

Pau is an interesting one. Currently 11th in Top 14. Granted he will be 33 after WC but must be a few bob involved all the same.

I guess he’s won everything that there is for him to win from a SH perspective so it’s just a case of cashing in now. That’s understandable of course but it’ll be disappointing to see him play for a team at the level of Pau.

b.gud · 13-12-2018 11:47am

Kevski wrote: »

I guess he’s won everything that there is for him to win from a SH perspective so it’s just a case of cashing in now. That’s understandable of course but it’ll be disappointing to see him play for a team at the level of Pau.

Is Conrad Smith still involved with Pau? That could be something that helped sway him towards Pau over other teams

Yeah_Right · 13-12-2018 1:29pm

b.gud wrote: »

Is Conrad Smith still involved with Pau? That could be something that helped sway him towards Pau over other teams

No Conrad Smith is now an assistant coach at another Top 14 club. Montpellier maybe?? I can't remember which one.

Pau are owned by a big oil company aren't they? I'd say Ben Smith went there for big money, nice lifestyle and low pressure rugby.

errlloyd · 13-12-2018 1:30pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

No Conrad Smith is now an assistant coach at another Top 14 club. Montpellier maybe?? I can't remember which one.

Pau are owned by a big oil company aren't they? I'd say Ben Smith went there for big money, nice lifestyle and low pressure rugby.

He is still at Pau coaching I think.

pickarooney · 13-12-2018 1:30pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Pau is an interesting one. Currently 11th in Top 14. Granted he will be 33 after WC but must be a few bob involved all the same.

This Pau boy gettin' rich

Squidgy Black · 13-12-2018 1:36pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

No Conrad Smith is now an assistant coach at another Top 14 club. Montpellier maybe?? I can't remember which one.

Pau are owned by a big oil company aren't they? I'd say Ben Smith went there for big money, nice lifestyle and low pressure rugby.

He's the defence coach at Pau.

Dubinusa · 13-12-2018 4:34pm

What's the odds on Cheika surviving after xmass?
Looks bleak down under. I think he'll be fired.

Jackman to Oz? Lol

troyzer · 13-12-2018 5:23pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

What's the odds on Cheika surviving after xmass?
Looks bleak down under. I think he'll be fired.

Jackman to Oz? Lol

He's done. Worse season in Australian Rugby's history.

It's not really his fault though when you play the best two teams in the world six times and the entire structure of Australian Rugby is collapsing.

sydthebeat · 13-12-2018 5:31pm

i doubt he'll be fired at this stage... but i expect maybe his whole back room staff will be.

he'll be a lame duck coach going into the RWC

Dog Botherer · 13-12-2018 6:52pm

The lads at Rugby Ruckus were talking a good bit about Cheika on their last podcast, they reckon that most of the problems with Aussie rugby are structural and not the fault of Cheika, although they also think he has done fairly poorly this year. The amateur club scene is completely disconnected from the pro game, most players see it as if you’re not playing for a handful of elite schools there’s no chance of making it into Super Rugby. On top of that every penny raised at amateur level is pumped into the pro game, which is further disenfranchising the lower levels and driving down participation.

Right now the mood of Aussie rugby is keep Cheika until after the World Cup, but begin actively searching for a successor. In the mean time serious restructuring of the union needs to be undertaken.

The Lost Sheep · 13-12-2018 6:57pm

Dog Botherer wrote: »

The lads at Rugby Ruckus were talking a good bit about Cheika on their last podcast, they reckon that most of the problems with Aussie rugby are structural and not the fault of Cheika, although they also think he has done fairly poorly this year. The amateur club scene is completely disconnected from the pro game, most players see it as if you’re not playing for a handful of elite schools there’s no chance of making it into Super Rugby. On top of that every penny raised at amateur level is pumped into the pro game, which is further disenfranchising the lower levels and driving down participation.

Right now the mood of Aussie rugby is keep Cheika until after the World Cup, but begin actively searching for a successor. In the mean time serious restructuring of the union needs to be undertaken.

Yeah rugby union is the elite fee paying schools and if not in one of them you havent hope of progress by and large and the club game is dominated by islanders so many of the white australians are turning away from union as rugby isnt weight graded like it is in New Zealand.

troyzer · 13-12-2018 9:22pm

Hansen stepping down after the World Cup.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12176744

LuckyGent88 · 13-12-2018 9:52pm

troyzer wrote: »

Hansen stepping down after the World Cup.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12176744

Scott Robertson will be the man to take over the role I’d imagine. Superb job with the crusaders the last number of Years.

troyzer · 13-12-2018 10:01pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Hansen stepping down after the World Cup.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12176744

Scott Robertson will be the man to take over the role I’d imagine. Superb job with the crusaders the last number of Years.

Not a chance. It has to be Foster.

sydthebeat · 13-12-2018 11:17pm

It's so hard to take Scott Robertson seriously.....

Dubinusa · 13-12-2018 11:34pm

Jackman is available, so is EOS

awec · 13-12-2018 11:52pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

Jackman is available, so is EOS

Jackman is destined to take over from Lancaster when he gets his promotion.

irishbucsfan · 14-12-2018 12:59am

awec wrote: »

Jackman is destined to take over from Lancaster when he gets his promotion.

On the one hand, this would be the worst thing that's ever happened to Leinster and I would be despondent to see it. On the other hand I would be incredibly delighted to see Buer's responce.

REDACTEd

stephen_n · 14-12-2018 8:52am

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Scott Robertson will be the man to take over the role I’d imagine. Superb job with the crusaders the last number of Years.

The report the other day said that if Joe had taken the role he was offered 12 months ago with the All Blacks. Then it would have been between him and Foster to take over when Hansen stepped down. You would assume that means Foster is the incumbent now since Joe didn’t move.

stephen_n · 14-12-2018 8:53am

awec wrote: »

Jackman is destined to take over from Lancaster when he gets his promotion.

I heard he was moving to Ulster as their backs coach.

Squidgy Black · 14-12-2018 9:06am

Toulon have signed Milner-Skudder and Etzebeth

troyzer · 14-12-2018 9:09am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Toulon have signed Milner-Skudder and Etzebeth

I thought they were getting Whitelock? They're having Whitelock AND Etzebeth?

Absolutely ridiculous.

jacothelad · 14-12-2018 9:11am

stephen_n wrote: »

I heard he was moving to Ulster as their backs coach.

No. What you heard was he was moving through Ulster in the back of a coach en route to Galway.........:D

Kevski · 14-12-2018 9:13am

The Challenge Cup will have a lot of big names playing in it next season! :pac:

Squidgy Black · 14-12-2018 9:14am

troyzer wrote: »

I thought they were getting Whitelock? They're having Whitelock AND Etzebeth?

Absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah that was what was being floated around that it was going to be Whitelock and another All Black announced yesterday, although it hasn't been confirmed that Whitelock is joining, there hasn't been anything to say he isn't still so they could have both.

troyzer · 14-12-2018 9:20am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Yeah that was what was being floated around that it was going to be Whitelock and another All Black announced yesterday, although it hasn't been confirmed that Whitelock is joining, there hasn't been anything to say he isn't still so they could have both.

If that's true, it's just unfair. Man City of rugby.

stephen_n · 14-12-2018 10:04am

Are they moving after the World Cup? Milner Skuder seems to be perma crocked?

Squidgy Black · 14-12-2018 10:06am

stephen_n wrote: »

Are they moving after the World Cup? Milner Skuder seems to be perma crocked?

Etzebeth is, Milner-Skudder is after the super rugby season. He more than likely wasn't going to the world cup anyways.

troyzer · 14-12-2018 10:07am

stephen_n wrote: »

Are they moving after the World Cup? Milner Skuder seems to be perma crocked?

He's going before the world cup apparently.

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